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Discussing the RTX 2060 and "GTX 1660 Ti" | Science Studio After Hours #35

2019-01-27
okay I think we are ready to go as usual if I am too loud or too quiet first check your own volume make sure that you have it set up the way you normally do and if I'm still too loud or quiet let me know scream at me in the chat and that was an indication that that I need to do something on my own so I am streaming from a different perspective than I than usual we've been doing things behind me typically where I film to like you know the usual videos I move things this way so that I can use two screens it was kind of a pain pivoting between my laptop and the second desktop we have back there so I figured I would use my personal rig for both streaming and editing and pretty much everything else we'll see how long this lasts I always change stuff so yeah power-up says it's Gucci Greg that's good your voice is distorting because too loud I don't thinks I don't think I'm too loud you probably yeah people are saying I say it speaking for some reason oh that's weird let me turn it down a little bit just in case you guys who had me okay bump me up just a little bit and I can fix that I'm barely touching yellow here although I do well I say that but no when I get close to the mic it does speak a little bit I think you guys are correct about that bends this is live the thumbnail said live so I wouldn't I wouldn't be that click Beatty and then a couple others were saying that the GTX 1660 T I had Sauk saying that name I hate that name 1660s like the trashiest card name ever they were thinking that was clickbait it's it's not and I have a good feeling this is actually going to be a real card we've been seeing supplemental data roll out about this thing and to be honest I don't know very much just the few articles that I've read I've seen a few pictures there was supposedly a press event where they actually were you know in video was talking with you know to itself in a kind of a closed environment about this card I don't know if that's super commonplace to have it look like a public event so again take all this with a grain of salt but I put gtx 1660 TI in quotes because that is just the precaution because if it comes back and haunts us and people you know we find out that the cards not real they're gonna come to all of us and say with you guys we're promoting a code that doesn't even exist and then I can be like here's my cop-out I put quotes around it so there's my cover that's my little lot my little disclaimer there but anyway thank you guys for stopping by this is a discussing our TX 2060 and gtx 1660 TI video again that second one is going to be in quotations because it's a rumor at this point we don't have any official statement from nvidia regarding this card we just have several leaks and i really try to stay out of hyping up leaks every now and then I'll pump something out just kind of talking about what the leaks you know have been doing to the industry what we've been seeing I guess that's kind of supplementing it I don't really know but it's not something that I like to base the entire channel on let's just leave it at that so this video making it more less for the RT X 2060 we will also talk a little bit about that I have a couple articles I want to show you guys regarding suppose it specs for the 16 60 TI and apparently a non TI version that one is a little less verified if you will a lot of quotations in this live stream anyway you guys get the point so let's start first with the RT X 2060 this is one I'm sure you guys have already seen reviews of you've already seen how it performs I wanted to talk a little more about this raw to you guys before I assure my official video because this is the first card in videos released since Pascal that I've actually been somewhat enthusiastic about again this is not it's not going to be a card that that I think everyone look into game in 1080p in 1440p should buy I think that it does have a specific target audience and that audience is going to be those who possibly can't afford the higher-end r-tx cards but still want the future-proof nosov ray tracing and whatever that might bring in the future now we only have a couple games really one that can actually do anything with the ray tracing cores with the RT cores with a 10 there's supposedly several others are in development and some are coming out very soon hopefully now but we'll see how long this lasts again I really don't know how how much ground this is gonna cover within one year span of time I mean we had just heard of rate racing in the mainstream from Nvidia really they were the first ones to bring it to the forefront so that's kind of my take on the beginning of it III really hope that you guys keep an open mind when I publish this review because I know you guys already probably know how it stacks up this card is similar to gtx 1070 1070 TI and more toward 1070 TI and those cards you can buy right now for assuming that the shortage is not gonna be you know crushing the market anywhere between three and four hundred maybe 450 it's starting to venture into 1080 1080 territory but i would say no more than about 400 bucks or so and that's pretty good because this card is launching it MSRP 350 for that efi card it's a beautiful design I heard it's difficult to get into but it is a very heavy beefy car it's gonna run a little louder it's a you know it's still a stock Nvidia cooler if you will but it is definitely improved from the previous blower style in my opinion so I'll be testing that and I'll be testing thermals so I'll be testing sound and then we'll probably do a few benchmarks outside about a filled 5 but I really want to focus on DXR with this card because this kind of ties into the 1660 Ti part I was really surprised to begin with an Nvidia even included RT intenser cores in a cart of this caliber and a 60 Series card so while I'm somewhat disappointed with the pricing strategy and vidi has been rolling out especially with the higher entering stuff I think that for a card in the 3 to $400 price range it makes more sense in my opinion to knock the RT intenser course completely off the chip or you know I'm not sure if the 1660 CI is going to have disabled RT intents or chunks of the die or if the die will have them completely I haven't done enough research to figure that out my assumption is they'll probably still be in there if they're not then they have two separate processes going on behind the scenes but I expected this card to not have Artie and tensor course because I don't think it's gonna be powerful enough to run games that you know with the XR and and DL SS and other things that are gonna tax the heck out of cards like this and especially cards that don't have any and a behind-the-scenes tech trying to chug this stuff along so my thinking is alright a 2060 people are gonna buy this because either one they can't afford the higher end stuff which is fine honestly I wouldn't spend twelve hundred thirteen hundred dollars for a top entering card either so I don't blame you there and even if you can't afford it you might not want to spend the money on it again I don't blame you so you might settle for an RT X 2070 those are okay I think the pricing is okay in that I feel slightly better about the RT X 2060 but the caveat is will it be powerful enough to run things like DX R so what I'm gonna do especially in the benchmark is in the benchmarking video is stress the heck out of the card in battlefield 5 I want to see what the optimal settings are for a card of this caliber in DX 12 with the XR enabled and we'll kind of play with some settings to see what we need to get 60fps see what we need to have 100 FPS and then hopefully I don't know I expect to even hit 100 FPS with this card to be honest a lot of the higher-end turing cards were struggling to hit 100 FPS and 1080p with the XR enabled so we'll see well we'll see I have my hopes up especially for the 1660 I'm crossing my fingers hope and that thing becomes a real card because if it does I think that will be a much more viable option for the average gamer so it seems like Nvidia is kind of alienated the average gamer with the release of Turing because we've had tech packed into it that we don't necessarily want to pay for but that's in there anyway and then guess what we only have one game thus far that properly utilized excluding those weird what was it what game was it that had the there ray tracing the real-time radiation the fool I saw it on Twitter I can't remember it was an old game no it's like doom or something I feel dumb now even though someone will know in the chat anyway that was that was a really cool thing to watch but yeah so that's the issue I have with it right is it not being as powerful as it probably should to be able to run the higher end stuff in games the XRD LSSI we just don't know yet we only have one game to test it with so and Cody says I'm also okay with not getting 100 FPS that's fine I mean look if you expect you know 100-plus FPS running DXR especially with an RT X 2060 you're gonna be in for a rude awakening so if you okay with that if you're content with 60 FPS in 1080p then that's fine but my thinking is if you're used especially to the high refresh rates a hundred Hertz plus then dropping down to sixty Hertz just for better reflections in a game then you're gonna be disappointed with that and you're gonna probably end up not using DXR in the first place you're just gonna run it as a typical card without Artie or tensor core is really doing anything quake 2 thank you guys quake 2 that was it I knew it was like I was thinking the original doom but yeah quake 2 anyway that is uh that's my thinking on the RT x 26 TMI and my hope is it the gtx 1660 TI if this card is actually a thing and it does hit the market supposedly in march we'll get a couple articles here in a second then what we're gonna end up with is a card that is probably gonna be priced at around 300 bucks and i think that's still pretty expensive for a 60 series card but again this comes down to what nvidia values to the degree to which nvidia values their arty and tensor core technologies so if they're willing to AXYZ completely out of the die then my assumption is they have a separate fab going for this and that wouldn't technically make it a tu die though so i don't know what defines a tu dies at the cuda cores or is it everything technically it's everything for the higher end card so I don't know depending on how they do this we're gonna end up with a card that I expect will be priced around 300 bucks I'd be very surprised if Nvidia prices card any lower than $300 so really when that card comes out the question you're gonna have to ask yourself is whether or not you value and look forward to developers including support for ray-tracing for real-time rates rates and using things like DX are implementing things like the XR in game DL SS is another thing that's going to be interesting to see how AI course work with that but for the time being I'm really looking forward to the 16 60 TI because I think that it's going to be a better value proposition for the average gamer and they was going back to what I said just a second ago about NVIDIA kind of pricing out of large share of their market typically how they do things they launch the most expensive the highest and cards first or somewhat first maybe a little out of order the TI you know the 1080 TI variant or whatever that equivalent would be always comes a little later it seems like but uh r-tx kind of change things up a bit but they release the higher end cards first because they know that fewer people buy those so they basically flush those out of the market first and then the heavy demand comes for the lower end cards and that's where they start selling in huge bulks and and that's just that's just typical you know simple marketing strategy right there so yeah I don't know what do you guys think about that if you're if you're already considering an RT X 2060 it's probably because you want something in the 1072 1071 at performance category but you can't find either those cards right now because the inventory the stock of those cards is drying up so it makes sense for Nvidia to kind of slide in here the intervening opportunity they're kind of creating for themselves to replace this card with one that is similarly priced and that also performs very similarly as well so we're not getting a huge performance jump in the same price category as we did with Pascal but we are still getting more tech we're getting more technology granted we don't use we don't use it in 99% of the games we all have in our Steam libraries but it's there for the future if you're banking on that tech then the the RT x 2060 in my opinion is the best value buy right now maybe the 2070 if you can find a really good deal and one oh no gigabytes been selling the 2070 s there are their gaming OC cards for pretty cheap relatively speaking some of those cards that can still go for five six seven hundred dollars and that's that's borderline or x20 Haiti territory there but anyway uh that's kind of where I'm at with this I think what I'm gonna do in my review you guys are gonna get a little inside scoop on this for people who are watching live if you watch this a little later you might not wash it in time but for the RT x26 three of you I think what I'm really gonna focus on is the battlefield 5 benchmark because I really want to stress the viability of this card with DXR enabled granted I know this is the first title and I know it's still unoptimized as heck like I was just playing ba5 and I could not for the life of me get my little mouse cursor to show up on screen it was annoying as heck and had a couple forced closes you know this is like typical early launch stuff but once they work out the kinks is this card gonna be viable it does it make sense for NVIDIA to pack our teen tensor cores into a die that is just not going to be able to pack enough punch to handle the computational workload associated with ray tracing with real-time ray tracing so yeah that's that's my stance on the RT X 2060 we'll talk more about this I'm gonna take some questions I'll try to answer some questions you guys have will do the typical Q&A we always do in the live streams here in a second and I just wanted to touch very briefly on the 16 60 TI and possibly even 1660 non TI version because we do have I would say credible rumors as like oxymoronic as that sounds think you guys know what I'm talking about these are coming from sources that have been correct in the past so I'm gonna pivot on over to that you can see if this is a Tom's Hardware article all these websites are basically compiling all the same source information so it really doesn't matter which one you look at but this is kind of a spec break down here this is the RT X 2060 and you can see the 1660 ti with asterisks basically as far as I know indicating what did I just do indicating this is not set in stone yet we don't know for sure but if you haven't heard of what the 1660 TI is supposed to be this would probably give you a little bit of insight we're expecting six big buffer we expect somewhere in the realm of 1536 CUDA cores and a benchmark of ashes of singularity we all know how semi reliable that is was pitting this about what did they say I want to say it was ten ten percent or so higher than a GTX 1060 which isn't a big improvement it's really not but it is an improvement nonetheless again this this generation of car is not going to be comparable to the leap from Maxwell to Pascal but it's it's just I don't know this is really all we have and if people are turning you know the stuff into entire videos worth of information I just don't think we know enough about it at this point for me to properly compile a video to present to you guys which is why I'm doing in a live stream and I might talk a little bit more about it in my r-tx 2060 review which should be up on the channel next weekend but yeah I mean this is really all we know right it's all these question marks we know what the clock speeds will be we don't even know what the memory clock is gonna be memory bandwidth is really nothing we can calculate here TDP I expect that will be slightly lower than 160 just because it'll be a slightly more cut down version of the 2060 transistor count not sure if they're even including the RT and tensor cores I it just makes sense that they would but I don't know I mean I don't know enough about the fabrication about the the yields on these for me to really make a an educated guess I'll let you guys decide for yourself or or link articles if you have any talking about that but yeah this is it this is really all we know so again about 10% performance improve and expect that in the realm or so over a ten sixty and that's really all we have here so this actually this article was talking about pallet that's another manufacturer of cards more prominent in Europe and they had listed the GTX 1160 there's yep what was this including graphics cards using in videos rumored GTX 1160 GTX 1660 and GTX 1660 Ti no idea what I just I just read that one for the first time this new listing disputes rumors that the GTX 1160 is fake they love a posted it previously with a group of laptops so yeah we're going to focus mainly on this one because we have a little more information backing up this this ones viability but there you have it so pretty much all I wanted to show you guys just a rough sketch there of what to expect again kind of I don't know don't hinge too much on that ten percent performance bump this is again one game that we have to base this off of and every game handles this stuff differently but I'm expecting the price I think the price is the most important thing is when you guys really worry about the most what you're getting for your money I'm expecting around 300 bucks I would be very surprised with NVIDIA charged any less than 300 dollars for this card and that's just because we kind of expect this from Nvidia at this point I don't think people are gonna be too disappointed with the price I think they're just gonna kind of accept it as fact and people who are gonna cross the fingers and hold out for Navi are just gonna be waiting a little while longer so Nvidia is still controlling a large chunk of the market and that's kind of what we have to work with at this point so if you're waiting you're gonna be waiting a little while longer and if you were waiting for more specifically a 60 series card that's actually affordable and it actually makes sense especially if you're not gonna use the RT intensive cores packed into these chips then there's a bit of hope on the horizon I don't think you'll be waiting too much longer again I'd be very surprised if these cards don't actually exist especially the 1660 ti it seems very credible a lot of tech sites have already kind of just confirmed the existence of this card but we'll see now we'll see so that's pretty much the meat and potatoes of this livestream and now I'm gonna turn it over to you guys you'll have the floor and I'm gonna answer questions about anything and everything related to tech even if you wanna have some personal stuff I won't get too personal with it but you know just just some generic stuff you guys want to know what's go excuse me what's going on I do see bazinga donated $20 I'll do the Super chat bazinga you wanted to boss Bing as always in the live streams I do appreciate his support he says watched you watch your video about cable management as a fellow cat owner I know the real reason was to keep the cables away from Pepsi let me tell you my dude he almost like he she she's sleeping right right there my well behind me but on the floor she she loves it when I build because there's always stuff scattered everywhere and she gets to kind of explore check she's sniffing around shake she acts like a dog sometimes checking things out want to 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picture of Pepsi she's like leaping up on two feet oh it's a cute pic but anyway it just gives you guys who remembers a little more bang for your buck I know it's difficult to justify five bucks unless you're just like a die-hard fan and I do appreciate that it really does help especially during these months because these months are kind of a slouch for a lot of tech channels people spend a ton of money around Christmas time and then you know I was expected it's just more about coasting to the next holiday season when the deals are running rampant again so it's it does help it really does I appreciate your support and I hope that you feel like you're getting something for your money anyway I'm trying my best here to make this worth your while and again I think that the emojis are or whatever you call them on their channel art yeah custom emoji is what YouTube calls it if you do that then it'll replace it with one of the three that I uploaded so there's science Pepsi the Doug is live so Doug the way you did it is how you're supposed to do it yes I wish I could post I really wish I could post am trying to figure this out here yeah it's too small to even show you guys let me see oh that's not too bad okay I'll just swipe it over all right here we go so that's the first one and it's again this is Lisa's doing not mine I'm to some weird wood I don't know what kind of face you would call this but it's it's my face and that one is all you do type that one you guys can watch the chat and it'll be a little delayed is you got to do science and then cool there you go and then if you want to do science WTF I'm slightly and this spilled that there we go if you do science WTF then this face comes up and this one this one is the supposed to be the the WTF face right so when somebody says something weird and shat then you can flash from this face not my proudest moment but you guys have that at your disposal if you are a channel member and then I actually don't even think I can do it myself I think members have to do it so if there's a channel member in the chat try it if you have a star next to your name try it let me know if it works it again it probably won't because I just added them like wow the live stream was getting ready to start so I'm kind of kind of new to this I apologize and then the last one if you type in science Pepsi Pepsi is the name of our cat then you get this picture and this is also the work of Lisa all three of these so this is my favorite one and she might not look super big in the chat when you type it in and it switches it over to a to a custom emoji but anyway you have that one there too perhaps he just woke up she's got her she's we've got this like little fishing pole yeah and she it's got a little feather title actually multiple feathers tied to the end of it on the string and so I can hold the little pole side I can just swing it around back and forth and she's always trying to jump up and catch it anyway yeah it's just a good way to pass some time by seeing acts again bazinga another super chap my dude I am currently running oh sorry that was the wrong one okay we now know what you think but the important cue is what does Lisa think about the 2060 and 1660 um I'll be honest she probably doesn't know too much about them every now and then one of you guys will creep into her live streams on Twitch and yellow asked for some like technical question and I'm like I'm listening to see how she responds and like she does a pretty good job actually she deals with it very well like if she doesn't know something you know and good enough detail to answer properly she'll kind of just dish it off to the side or say she'll ask me and come back to whoever asked the question but she she probably I showed her this card earlier and she's like what's that I was like it's a new car it's a new graphics card check it out and she's like oh okay and then that was basically the the entire conversation so yeah it wasn't too exciting anyway that's her enthusiasm her enthusiasm for tech is more like rooted in live stream tech like obvious that's what she does so she she likes to you know she just got a stream deck so she's all about that she's like tinkering with it like setting it up exactly how she wants anyway bazinga says it does not work that is a shame darn it so oh wait yeah I didn't come up yeah so what we'll have to do I think you can do these two in the comments section so after the livestream posts after it's archived and then uploaded officially as a video on the channel you can view try to comment with an emoji I'll put a pin comment up there too with the three different emoji text words if you just do the colon and then science it should come up but anyway then we can test it there I think it's because the live stream well I just collected I think it's because the the live stream was was active not live but it was active it was already kind of pre-loaded when I created the emoji so we'll try it again it I think it'll definitely be up by next time if YouTube gets its stuff together I think we'll be good to go 1.7 m views asks so the gtx 1660 basically is a turing base and 612 nanometer gtx 1060 yes so think of it like think of it like a slightly slightly more cut-down r-tx 2060 because it has fewer cuda cores apparently I think 1920 in the 2060 and I think that the 1160 TI has 1530s 1536 so slightly more cut down again maybe 10 to 15% performance improvement over the 1060 depending on driver optimization and the game itself and then it's not gonna have tensor or RT cores is what we're expecting and that's gonna chop a good you know level they're off the price so we'll see no we'll see I'm not too sure yet but based on what we were talking about earlier in the livestream excuse me we will hopefully we'll know soon and I think the cards will be announced sometime around March so awkward sit there the water all right ghost potato of $10 super chat Mon dude I appreciate that I am currently running to GTX 1080s and SLI I did that for a long time actually believe it or not would upgrading to a single 20 atti sorry about that bump 22 TI be a significant improvement in performance for gaming or should I just keep my current setup so here's what I do guys potato the 22 TI is definitely going to be an extra kick look whenever you SLI two cards a lot of games won't even utilize the second card and if they do it'll only be maybe 2 10 20 % or so of like its full potential so you're really not even getting a full second GT X 1080 out of performance so let's let's assume you have just a single 1080 then the jump from that to an RX give me an R and RIT x20 DT is gonna be pretty pretty substantial if you want to compare it to other r-tx cards a 1080 is gonna compare to an RT X 2070 they trade blows a 1080 TI is gonna compare to an RT X 2080 and then we really have nothing to compare it to the RT X xx atti it's just no matter how much money you want to really spend on that card but here's my thinking if you save those two GTX 1080s just a little while you're fine I'm assuming where you are those are beefy cards they're still viable in 2019 perfectly viable there are actually really good cards especially if you get them used for around 300 bucks I would wait a little longer let the inventories drive just a bit more you got to play the market there's nothing wrong with this sell those cards when there aren't really many places to buy them new so that gives the used market an edge you can kind of dictate your prices a bit more maybe get a few more bucks out of your cards if you decide to sell them especially on a site like eBay so let's assume you sell them in six months four I don't wanna say 400 a screw it let's say 400 bucks each I don't know what kind of 10 eighties they are but let's assume they're decent cards if you sell those for 400 bucks each that's 800 bucks in your pocket then you only need a few hundred more to get to a 20 DTI and I think that's pretty good right paying two to three hundred bucks for that kind of performance bump is nice if you can get your money out of those cards those 1080s 400 bucks for 1080 is gonna be a stretch it really depends on the market I was paying 300 bucks for mine used but that was before Pascal inventories really started drying up so it depends you gotta I gotta just play the market you know feel it out if you want to sell local that's really where you're gonna have to kind of see what other people are priced and their stuff at start with a price that's slightly higher than what you'd take at your lowest and then just kind of haggle that's that's the joy of selling use is you can kind of barter your own way to to an agreement with the opposing party so yeah that's my take on that now Lucas was cows was Koski I hope I said that right supid I looked $20 super chet I appreciate that what happened to ati and why don't they head the graphics card for AMD weren't they always on par with NVIDIA so this is gonna require just a bit of research on my part I did I believe at one point talk about ATI in a previous video but ultimately what happened was they were acquired and let me see I'm gonna look this up real quick to make sure how spill any information that's inaccurate it's the joy of having a PC right in front of me I can check on this stuff for you guys I know you could just google this just as well as I could but from my understanding right ATI was acquired in to 2006 yep and let's see the acquisition of ATI was important to Nvidia is not to Nvidia to AMD strategic development of its fusion generation of computer processors which integrated general processing abilities with graphics processing functions within the chip since 2010 AMD's graphics processor products have ceased using the ATI brand name so to go back to your question what happened to 80 I first thought they were bought they were they were acquired by AMD and then what a.m. he did was take some of the stuff that ATI was bringing to the table and using that to create the fusion chips and the fusion chips were some of the first ap use on the market and an APU is a CPU and a GPU can I combined into a single package into a single die so this right here this right here is a risin 5 2400 G now most horizon CPUs do not have integrated graphics processors which means that if you were to build a rise in system and not connect a discrete graphics card like an RTI X xx 80 or even something as cheap is like a GT 730 you couldn't get any signal from your motherboard to your monitor so even if you had HDMI out on your B 350 year B 360 or X 370 X 470 motherboard with like a risin 2600 in it you wouldn't get any signal to your monitor because there's nothing to process the graphics in the CPU and you don't have a discrete GPU to do that for you so the G processors have basically these are AP use they have Vega graphics built in as well as Rison cores so they will almost always end up running a bit hotter consume a bit more power because again they're handling graphics and the external software processing and that is in a nutshell what an APU is and the reason why the fusion processors were so prominent backbends because they were some of the first to successfully implement ap use well successfully implement GPS inside of CPU dies making them ap use and yeah so yeah a little bit history I learned a little something hopefully you learned a little something and there we go since 2010 AMD's graphics processor products have ceased using a TI brand name which means that AMD wanted basically full control full credit for this stuff and it makes sense right if you buy a car from somebody do you really want that person's name on your car because it's yours now so that's usually what they do is it kind of phase it out slowly and so it looks like they took the technology that ATI was bringing to the table threw it into its fusion generation of processors and let's see click on fusion here real quick designed to act as a central processing unit and graphics processing unit on a single die and that my friends is an accelerated processing unit that's an APU so yeah that's really cool anyway awesome I hope I hope that shed some light on it and yeah all right so you guys questions I just got through some of the super chats if you have questions I am ready to go someone asked if the 24 energy is good I think it's a better solution a more viable value conscious solution than pairing like a cheap pentium cpu with like a g GT 730 or even like a 750 Ti I think ap use especially the 2400 G I think that that's that ap in particular is a pretty good value so if we round a hundred and what are they selling for right now let's see 2400 G and selling for about 150 bucks right now you get it on B&H photo for 150 it's pretty good let's see what amazon selling it for maybe that's something yeah so for 150 I think they're the right 5:24 energy makes a lot more sense in the risin 320 200 G that hyper-threading is gonna make pretty big difference especially when everything's being handled on on the core and then also making sure that you pair this with rising compatible RAM meaning that you could overclock the RAM or reach a much higher frequency just by running X and P or something of the like and then also running in dual channel because that makes a bigger difference with AP use then you'll be you'll be set so anyway I just realized that yeah I just realized that I'd click back to the other to the other screen but yeah so that is my take on the 24 energy I think it's actually a pretty good processor I think it for someone on a budget I'm actually building Lisa's Lisa's mom I'm gonna build her a system using a 2400 G and I'm only gonna put that in it like I'm not gonna put a graphics card in it a discrete GPU just doesn't make any sense so yeah I am Groot says 139 at my Crescenta that's pretty sweet I'm assuming you're talking about the you're talking about the 24 G and let's see here Alex donated 50 SEK no idea what that is but I appreciate a donation why is it that there are literally zero reviews on 2080s without factory overclock are they just garbage that companies want to hide away and zero reviews of 28 eats without factory overclock I'm confused someone says I'm clipping a bit I don't think I I'm not showing any clipping on my end I'm barely touching yellow unless I get really close and then I'm Michael if just a tiny bit if I'm clipping any more than that then it's probably something on the sound board which is gonna require me to really pay attention to the setting I haven't touched stuff on there since the last live stream so I'd be surprised if it was hardware related it's probably software on my end if you're actually hearing that much clipping anyway but yeah I would say that the the 20 80s without factory overclock I mean I'm just when I did my 22 review of the asus strix card i just ran it a stock i i think i I don't even know if I overclocked it because there was really no point like the card was already basically hitting its like it's keep power draw it was limited by the the BIOS power limit so yeah I mean I'm not sure what your question was but I just tested it as it was out of the box keys most people are gonna buy these cards and not even try to overclock anymore they're just gonna assume that the card is already good as is and not bother with messing with any of that other stuff Grum says I'm not clipping you aren't clipping it's probably on the other dudes own okay well that's good to know if I do clip you guys just just all captured it's okay just don't spam but I just all caps it Diego that's a good question what is your audio setup so right now I'm using a Behringer b1 I use an 8020 35 which is right there right there I use that for normal video so anytime you watch a regular video on the channel the 8020 35 is the mic that I use but when I'm doing live streams I'm doing stuff that requires me to be right in front of a PC I use the b1 or I'll use like a a rode videomic pro plus but right now you want it is and then my sound board is a Yamaha mg 10x you that is a that has the U stands for like USB so it means you can connect it via USB so you get a 24 24 bit connect I thought it was 10 bit anyway 24 bit 192 kilohertz which is slightly higher sample rate for audio it's not a little better but yeah so I used that mixer it's definitely overkill I don't need that mini channel so I just use one used to use to you but one one is still really under kill for this and then I connect that straight into the PC into the motherboard via just a three-and-a-half millimeter adapter so that's this yeah that's it that's literally all it is I'm not a super hardcore like audiophile I do appreciate good speakers I have a really nice clip set in the in the living room and then I also actually have a clip set here as well it's a 2.1 bluetooth clips that that I use like just to listen to music here and then I also have Edifier speakers that were sent to me I did not do review on them yet because I'm just really try I I really contemplate them like okay how am I going to get people to understand these are good sounding speakers can't just stick a mic up to them because there's going to be some loss and you know audio clarity there and then it's gonna be processed and it's just not gonna sound as good as it does when you actually listen to it in person so okay I kind of a problem there and I'm just a little confused there was a question from max fractal design mesh vs two thoughts okay so if you watch my define r6 review alright it's basically that slightly different internal layout that panel right next to the motherboard tray is different it's more suited for mounting water cooling gear like reservoirs pumps things of that sort so it's it's it's a case that I would choose over the r6 put it that way and I imagine that a lot of their sales are gonna come horn out of the are to the s2 than they are to the r6 because they're basically the same case basically the same dimensions of course you have the mesh front now so it's gonna have similar airflow properties to that of the mesh fic and then it's basically an extended version of that so more water cooling room you're not gonna have as many graphics card clearance issues with the s2 I doubt you'll have any at all really unless you like pack a super thick rat in there up front but anyway I think it's a just much more roomy case typical fractal design cable management again very similar to my review of the r6 and I'll be building in the SQ very soon so stay tuned for that but it's a very good case I think the price point is pretty much right expected it's about 150 bucks that's not bad look the PCO 11 dynamic is still in my opinion a slightly better value but I understand that not everyone likes that design a lot of people like fractals kind of like disguise look very you know down to earth and and just simplify it I don't know people say it's like this Scandinavian design but it does look very appealing it looks very what sort I'm looking for I'm looking for like like elegant it's like prestigious looking almost and that that's why I have no problem promoting like I love fractal cases I've been using a mesh if I see for all I don't know over a year now and the s2 is just an extended version of that it's I think it's a good case anyway yeah I would never promote anything that I didn't think was a good value or I didn't think I would ever use personally and I'm actually going to personally use the s to you very soon we shot those the pre-roll that you guys saw in the last video we shot that in Vegas with that aventador man let me tell you that car was insane I have never said I've set in a few V tens driven a few V tens but a v12 is just an animal like it is a totally different vibe and and what they were telling me is that that car is like super expensive to maintain and like yep mmhmm definitely not gonna own a v12 at any point during my life so if I get the opportunity to buy an expensive sports car it will be at the most of e10 I know the are rates and the Huracan they have the the Audi source to be tens and them are fairly reliable relatively speaking but they were telling me the v12 is just a pain to work on and then also the McLaren's were also pretty expensive to work on so yeah I love cars cars that that's that's my second love but actually I was into cars before I was ever in a PC tech so I really it's my first look anyway yes Vista Kate I like that quite oh that's that's a good word to describe it and a sophisticated look for the fractal cases always have and and that's why I just especially the mesh if I see and now they the s2 I really like the way that front panel looks some people were saying that it just wasn't like cohere and didn't look simplified but I love that I think it's minimalist looking it's just so sharp little facets as little edges there that reflect light differently makes it look very elegant in my opinion anyway paid paid Oh Pat oh Hernandez what do you think it's the best em ATX case right now tough call for em ATX cases I it's speaking of fractal I think the that the is it the mesh if I want to say it's the I know the define is it the mini see that is the smaller version let's see here let's see ya define mini see ya that's what it is I was trying to member the case name yeah the define mini C is very cool and that's the the m ATX version of the define C or the mesh spicy with the solid front panel but still so I think that's a really good em ATX case again very similar internal structure and it's going to go a long way in terms of cable management I really like what fractal does with cable management they're tons of space toward the front with which to manage cables and then my another case that I haven't built in but I know essentially what it well what's comprised in it I have the H 700 I I also have the H 200 I but the H 400 I looks like a really great case from NZXT and I wonder how many of you guys have that that case look here's what I really like about em ATX cases on that topic whenever you have a build like this one here I know you guys can't see it but whenever whenever I have a build with a single graphics card in it no matter how thick that card is from like a horizontal perspective there's just so much a dead space below the card right which just makes me want to put a second card in there even though I know that SLI is not very efficient I still want to put a second card in there if I can because it just makes the build look so much more cohesive and filled up but the problem is you have to pay what you know two three four even six seven hundred dollars to get a second card that looks the same as the first one and then on top of that the card is probably gonna run hot and consume significantly more power especially when you're doing things that actually utilize both GPUs to their fullest potential so my my thinking is alright if that's too big then and you only want to run a single card then get an M ATX case slightly smaller motherboard and now that graphics card is just so much more centered in the bill and there's not so much dead space I know that's like super picky and honestly the way a build looks is not going to change much about its performance at all unless we're talking about airflow restrictions or something of that sort but you know if it's your build if it's your baby you put that much time into it then you want to make it look good and in my opinion micro ATX builds that have a you know look much better than full-size ATX builds if there's only one graphics card involved unless you you know populate the other PCI slots with like capture cards or something like I'm using a capture card here but it's so slim you know like there's still a ton of dead space there so you could actually get by with running and like an H 400 I or a define mini C having a 2 slot card up top and then also putting a capture card down below and still give me your your graphics card enough room to breathe a little bit so Colin Burgess says just join what's going on Colin how you do them on dude bud Wayne says just vertically mount the GP fists up the fills it up pretty well well actually you can see what we can't really see there that one's vertically mounted and I really enjoy vertically mounted cards I think they do look good and they do fill up that space definitely but they consume all of your PCI slots so you're literally cutting every opportunity you have out of your system to throw in something like capture card more USB Drive or USB ports whatever you might use that you know those other PCI slots for but that's the problem with that so if you're ok with that just running a graphics card and that's it then yeah I agree the cable or the vertical brackets especially from like cable mod or coolermaster are gonna go a long way but if you want to be a little more versatile then you can't release that Tim Horton asks can I tweet a photo of my build to you and you tell me what you think go ahead Tim I'll keep a lookout on Twitter I'll go and open my phone right now this would be pretty fun and I'll reply and if anyone else wants to see what I'm looking at then they can check out the Twitter handle Twitter is it you if you check the video description you guys can see it let's see checking some other stuff and you're gonna Hulu notification who is so dumb whenever you if you register a device on Hulu and then you don't use Hulu on that device for a long time then it kicks that device off of your plan that's annoying and then Hulu raises prices for the live TV subscription of course so I might be switching to youtube TV here's but uh let's see Dwayne forces mine is wide enough to vertically mount the GPU and a sound card and an MDOT two adapter yeah but then that means you have a really really big case and even then you're still going to have dead space below or above to have enough room to put those extra things and those other PCI slots so that it comes back to the same problem again it's just too much dead space Tim says he tweeted let's see Tim I want to open it up here I'm looking for it that's weird I don't have I don't have anything on here sorry for the awkward pause there I'm trying to figure out why I can't see his tweet yeah I can't see it Tim I'm looking for it unless I have it filtered to where I see tweets from people who I follow and who I don't follow and even those who aren't following me I don't know why I can't see it though that's really strange I'm gonna figure out what's going on mr. zombie says love my huge case thumpa Dwayne says the sound card about to dr. or mounted horizontally behind that deep GPU okay do you have uh you have a case that has like no PCIe brackets or know like little slot covers running from the motherboard side toward the left side panel so probably like a like the PCO 11 dynamic doesn't have any of those brackets and then like the Coolermaster h 500 doesn't either as far as I know not Adam says what are your thoughts on navvies and to Greg I have videos already talking about that Adam go ahead and check those out my dude yeah null says you can't see it either I don't know what's going on I'm looking for a Tim but I can't see it Caleb's sent a tweet to do I have a filter that just like complete maybe I do know I've never realized that I had a filter that prevented me from seeing things that people tweet directly at me maybe that's the problem it's probably a mine I don't know what I'm doing on here let me see alright settings and privacy notifications okay I have a quality filter on I don't know what the heck that does no photo tagging Twitter teams allow anyone to add you to their team tweet location this is really weird is anyone else knowing I'm you guys when I'm looking for right like for some reason I can't see there's like filters like I like it mutes or like audimute stuff that people tweet directly at me which I might have turned on and them in the past I have no idea mu notifications from people with a new account turn that off go a default photo no okay screw it I'll just like take everything off now let's see if I see it nope I still don't see anything let me google it why can't I see things people tweet directly to me so when you tweet this when you guys are talking about tweeting stuff to me are you just like adding me like are you like that's what I'm expecting you guys are doing because if you try to send me a DM I'm not gonna see it I have a filter on for that I get tons of deems if I didn't turn that on but if you are just trying to send me a tweet like just straight up out of nowhere just do at science studio whitey and then attach the picture or whatever it is and I'll see if I can see I don't know I've turned off all filters so I don't know why the heck I wouldn't why I wouldn't be able to see it hmm direct messages I don't know what it's called yeah this is gonna take a while to figure out cuz I don't know what to see privacy settings allow anyone to tag you in photos ah jeez I don't know I have no idea notifications I mean there's like a quality filter but I don't think that's filtering that threatened accounts muted words I've know muted words including like that excuse me I don't know me I don't know dude I have to figure that out but if you guys know what I'm looking for if you know I'm talking about let me know people are sending me pics and I'm not seeing them so if you know what I'm talking about if you know that that let's see yeah yeah click that yeah the tweet to button okay so someone looked it up I don't want to take up the whole life stream looking that up but someone look up how to unmute or unhide direct tweets or whatever that is right if you go to my profile page by clicking that link down below in the video description and then you click tweet to and then you send me something figure out how to turn off that filter because obviously that filter is long that's why I can't see any direct tweets which sucks because that means it okay I see Tim yo I see that one okay this is weird so I saw a Tim Leung lund fist I see that one he asked if I saw it so yeah that I'm getting now I'm but I'm not getting the others that's really weird anyway chance II says keep your heads high and have a good night good night chants thanks for stopping by on the live stream appreciate it sorry I got a little dull here for a second we're trying to trying to figure this out so I can better communicate it yes ah cipher I see it now this is a test lol can you see this that is a sexy-looking system my dude all of you guys can see this but that is whoops I just completely canceled it out let's see yeah there we go yeah anyway yeah it's gonna be kind of blurry we can zoom in oh yeah oh yeah get all up in on that fix that focus am i getting there oh yeah there we go that's what I'm talking about you guys see that so anyway I can zoom away from my face again sorry about that if my a my crispy I can't tell crispy or not yet see if I'm if I'm in focus looks like it's good enough it looks a little better yeah we'll see I'm looking at myself right now screaming that's weird alright uh still nothing I got you Tim I see it now rate my setup looking good Corbin looking good is that an Xbox one over there Xbox one s alright alright I see you got your priorities straight though you put a lot of money of that rig it looks good I like that Corbin I can see this Keegan you guys have nice setups custom loop alright savage astronaut that is looking sexy at the age 500 that's a good-looking build right there my friend okay so we fixed it I don't know what I did to fix it but we fixed it so thanks for helping me out guys for sending me pictures those are really good builds by the way and that's good so now I can actually see things that people tweet directly I mean I didn't realize that I couldn't see that before so that sucks let's see yeah okay so uh bazinga again Fidel super champ bazinga oh my dude ten have eaten or a wife you went with wife what were you thinking vito nov 10 or wife you went with wife what were you thinking I am I reading that wrong I'm confused I think I know what you're trying to say yeah I chose her it's hard it's hard to resist she's so sweet and you know like I always thought it was silly when people would say oh I locked eyes with this person and I immediately fell in love like I I still I don't think I necessarily did that with Lisa but like when I met her I was like wow she is beautiful and then she would talk like I love her voice like her accent is so cute and then on top of that like she's actually a down-to-earth chick she plays video games like really well like better than I do and she puts up with my crap so to me that's a win win win win and a v10 just isn't as I mean meat ends are a dime a dozen but a girl like her no way so I couldn't let her slide I couldn't let her slip but but let's see scroll down got a scroll down okay let's see boo man says these tech tubers seem to have understanding of an Nvidia and you mean Nvidia retirement how can 10 6g tx/rx 60 chip be okay to be sold as 2070 while being low mid-range card something is not right with tubers I mean I called this out like I've literally talked about this in my old review or not my review but my coverage of it at CES the 2060s is an expensive 60 series card no doubt about it and it's not bringing much more to the table than a car that already costs that price from the previous generation already is the differences we're getting our teen tensor cores packed into it and at that point are we really getting much more out of it because again I can count on one hand I can't count with just one finger the number of games that's currently utilized to any extent are T intensive cores so yeah I've already talked about this you can watch this videos about it anyway let's see here okay okay Dustin Gangji is how you say named Angie hey Greg I was wondering if you personally would recommend I get an H 500 to find C or mash if I see for my new build currently using an S 340 going to the girlfriend so I've built in the H 500 H 500 P I think I've also built under to find C mesh spicy so I think I can give you decent insight here the mesh spicy is going to be my favorite case overall build in the H 500 is more roomy so if you're concerned about room then I would go with the H 500 unless you're talking about NZXT if it's the NZXT h 500 then then I haven't built in that one the H I've hundred does look really enticing I haven't built in it yet but I plan to and when I do I'll be sure to let you know but for right now I do not think you'll be disappointed if you go with the mesh of five-seat so if you're on the fence about whether or not that case is gonna be good for your needs just make sure that you know if you if you have a really long graphics card you might have some clearance issues if you're pairing that with an AI o that you're placing upfront that's happened to a few ace ace use cards and other longer cards other than that though it's a beautiful case and and decently priced at that let's see okay so sook alicia's would you buy a 1080 TI from a minor for $600 no not for 600 bucks no I didn't I I only buy cards that are really good deals that stand out in my opinion that are like very different from how they were in the in the new market 600 is too close to retail for me to feel comfortable especially from a minor Savage astronaut hey Greg 1g not - I I only say that cuz like whenever I see two G's and the word in the name Greg at the end I always want to say Greg Giga but my name is just Greg so I just have one G pet peeve I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm so sorry about that anyway astronaut do you have a discord for your followers to chill and chat in finite to considerate savage check video description my dude it is there that's our public discord and yep we share it with Brian over at Tec es city so if you want to join it go ahead and do that I pop in every there from time to time we also play some games with the discord members from time to time as well we're gonna get something set up - we're gonna try to start getting the streams going not streams but the games going again we were doing pub G basically every weekend so we'll do something like that again soon we did it once before the new year and then CES came up and everything got screwed up but anyway victors 22 $5 New Zealand Dollars my dude I appreciate that good to see again victors hope you were doing well my friend we talked a few times in the past and he's always in the live stream so I appreciate your support hey Greg I sent you a pic on Twitter of my setup I can see you I said maybe I already looked at I don't remember who did or not let's see he victories I think he did you oh yeah corporate honey oh yeah ray my setup I like that it looks good that was when I pointed out sorry I missed your super chat but I did I did mention it I did bring it up yeah CJ RHD Greg good yeah see then hey Greg good Oh Nikolas alright yeah yeah I know y'all think I'm being super anal about my spelling I don't know I just think it's really weird to spell greg with two g's like why is the second G even there like it just doesn't make sense to me Nikolas says I like your glasses I appreciate that they're a little bigger than I would have liked my last set of frames were were slimmer and not as wide on my face but I think I'm starting to fill them out and people getting used to it so over time I think people will become more acquainted to it and get used to it Greg says I get called Craig it's annoying oh god I know the same same issue I understand that totally like over the phone especially when you say a just like a G sound like good it sounds like you know over the phone so they always think it's Craig and spelling those like G like giant or haven't eaten whatever the G callsign is but yeah I know I know we could talk I think that's every I think it's a problem every Greg faces let's leave it at that let's see any more questions my friends I am looking Katie says I see I saw you built in this era cool style on many do you think are moving the front panel like an inch from the fans will be decent improvement on airflow probably that case is not the best for airflow I would buy that under like an extremely like tight budget it's it's just a cheap ER case like that's the target audience for that's why we we built in that case for that that budget system that we put together and it was like four hundred fifty bucks for five hundred bucks something like that so we use the Cylon money for that because it was an affordable case still at RGB so people felt like I think it customized a little bit more and it got the job done right it was not necessarily bare-bones but it was definitely more trip down than your typical ATX case that costs say a hundred bucks so yeah the front panel I think if you remove the front panel or like spaced it out a little bit more definitely you'll improve your flow there I didn't really critique the case on air flow because it's just I don't think that's that's what it's trying to do it's not gonna absolutely suffocate your build right even if you put fans up there but it's definitely not optimized for air flow let's put it that way let's see here scrolling down Eddie Sawyer's would you buy used computer parts on eBay Eddie I literally have videos where I do this thing I built an entire system from eBay used parts so go watch that video mr. zombie what's a good six gen M ATX motherboard 6 gen so you talk in skylake 6 gen oh gosh see 170 I like the Asus prime boards from from them I like MSI has some really cool z1 70s in a while I really like it as far as I know you can use II 270 boards on them too I'm gonna find many z170 boards on the market anymore but c2 70s might still be there and then also C 370 so it will depend but we'll see Christopher Chris stoles Chris is awesome I know Chris very well and it's always cool to meet him at parties and stuff at the events like CES I just saw him again there so yes speaking of game night how about playing some C of these I've been playing a little bit this past weekend is surprisingly fun now with a group see if thieves I'm gonna do a quick google search of this let me get all up in this business sea of thieves Oh doctor disrespect believes sea of thieves could be the next big game on one condition okay uses the Unreal Engine of course this is the stuff tech nerds always look at like the game engine and okay let's see Windows and Xbox one development ok gameplay see if these is a pirate themed action-adventure cooperative multiplayer game based from a first-person perspective features cross-platform play between Windows and Xbox one console that's pretty cool a group of players traveling explore open world via a pirate ship and assume different roles such as steer hoisting sails navigation firing that's really cool actually so you have to you have to rely on your teammates quite a bit it sounds like in this game to actually get anything time which is exciting and also extremely frustrating depend on who you're playing with so no worry Chris I won't let you down I'll check it out I don't have that game I'll see how much it is and might even if it's like if it's stable enough I might even benchmark with it so we'll see but thanks for the recommendation because we just Lisa and I have just now got into like some serious like battlefield vibe playing we're trying to feel it out see if we actually want to like stream that stuff if she wants to stream it on her Channel so we're not too sure yet but funny again that's like that is like you know intensive as battlefield 5 but this still requires you to actually put work in would be pretty cool no one's seen him even get my brother's to play with us - let's see Dustin asks how and when did you decide to switch to youtube full-time what are you doing before that ok so I have a video talking about this as well about like how YouTube became my full-time job before this so before this was really just college student so I got my my engineering degree when I was 22 and then that was by that point the YouTube channel had like a hundred and fifty to two hundred thousand subs and with my degree I could the starting salary and with my degrees between 60 and 80 K typically petroleum engineers make a lot more than your average engineer but they're very specific at what they do so it's you know if the if the market is well though if the oil market is bad then it's a lot more difficult to get a job and that's the downside of this so it's risky but fortunately the YouTube channel was already doing quite well I didn't see the need to really push tons of resumes into into that space I didn't really feel like I I think I applied like two positions but by that point I didn't hear anything back and I was like okay well I'm not gonna take this very seriously than if youtube's already doing its thing so I have a fallback but the the next thing I did while I was still running a channel I went online I got my my MBA online so now I have a master's degree and I don't use that either I'd like to say that it helps me a little bit with managing you channel especially the financial side of it my concentration theme Bay was financed but it it really serves me no real-world purpose at least like in the corporate world so yeah I learned some cool stuff from it and hopefully it's an epic fall back if I something happens to the channel gets deleted tomorrow I have something to fall back on it's really weird to look at that as a fallback but anyway it's there and that's really what I was working on before and daring this and then how I started the channel I have videos talking about that I won't waste too much time for the other livestream or life viewers but I have video was talking about how the channel started how I funded the channel all that good stuff Grum says the word engineer gets thrown around to readily today to Reddit why I don't know what you mean by that I have a Bachelors of Science in petroleum engineering so it required me to take thermodynamics statics mechanics fluid dynamics electrical circuits all that good stuff yeah and then it was like straight up petroleum after that which was really a combination of civil engineering and mechanical engineering fight to describe it with with other engineering branches because there's a lot of statics involved there's a lot of like pressure fluid stuff involved like balancing equations mass flow equations all that good stuff and then some geology mixed into and I really like the geology aspect of it that was really fun excuse me and so yeah I think we're gonna let's see also here in medicine medicine also here Oh anyone here in medicine Keegan you're in medicine Wow that is I was considering med school for a little bit and dad awesomely decided that it was just gonna take away too much time from the channel and from from other things that were currently making me money because what I wanted to say was I could have been a petroleum engineer I could have really tried I could have really tried to be one right I mean I had the degree but I have really no hands-on experience on a rig it's all just theory so I would have had to have taken an internship and then like really kind of work my way into the industry that way which would have again taken more time from the channel but if I had done that I would have come out of there making between 60 to 80 maybe 100k a good friend of mine who had similar GPA I did got a he got a really good six figure six figures starting salary and like a twenty thousand dollar signing bonus they it pays very well but I get to be my own boss here you know I get to communicate with you guys on a more personal level especially in the live streams I get to take in your feedback and travel the planet talking about tech and to me that's a much better job even though it doesn't pay anywhere near as much as that does so like after all the stuff that I have to pay for every year to even get this channel running like I make significantly less than I would in the field its petroleum engineer so hopefully that changes it would be nice to be able to like make more money and it's getting better as the channel grows the income goes up the ad spots roll in it you know it's kind of a progressive thing but yeah I think the real reason why I chose not to really pursue it heavily after I got out of undergrad undergrad school was was just because I like doing this so much you know I could have played the game like everyone else and applied for all kinds of things I just just didn't really see no no I wasn't as passionate about it at that point because I was putting all my eggs into the YouTube basket so it's been treating me well so far you know definitely has its hurdles but anyway we are we're still chugging along thanks to you guys thanks for watching especially the live streams you guys are so cool like 1017 p.m. on a Sunday night and 360 of you are watching I hope you at least feel like you got something out of this live stream especially toward the beginning when we're talking about the Arctic's 2016 16 60 I will be archived in this live stream so stay tuned for that if you want to watch from the beginning if you can't scroll back I don't know if you can or not you choose and kind of whack again lately Lucas what's Kowski we'll end with this ten I like super chat from him I appreciate that come work in the oil fields with me Wow what should I do with my pair of gtx 980 SCS i love a channel keep it up cool Lucas I know you work Neola field I wonder where you look at where you work if you're in the States you're gonna be up in the Dakotas or maybe in Texas but you say up so up and I'm assuming it's gonna be in the Dakotas that's my guess or maybe even higher they may be working like pretty Bey like I've in Alaska that would be cool I wouldn't mind working way up there but anyway with those nine 80s look if you got a pair of them I would try to sell them individually try to sell one on eBay feel out the market see what you get for it and then sell the other one after that you might be able to get and on 90 days of selling I bought nine 70s for about a hundred bucks you might get 130 to 140 maybe even 150 160 for a 980 you got to kind of feel it out 90 these are very comparable to 10 60s and 10 60s are still selling for 250 to 300 bucks so I think anything under 200 bucks is worth trying and then you can make 300 bucks out of the sale so you're getting some of your money back at least that's a good thing about selling use and then let's see here uh go fasta ask good question go fossa you mentioned that the iPhone 10 r has a good screen but can you tell the difference between HD in Full HD 2k how noticeable is it by the way why didn't you study something hardware related so in my opinion like to answer your second question first engineering was hardware related like it wasn't computer stuff but at that point if I wanted to do something Hardware related then I would have had to have also learned the software side of it and I was not as passionate about the software side like you can't just go to school and get a degree in like computer engineering and expect to not do like deal with software and the software parts scared me a lot so that's why I kind of stayed out of that part of it I'm getting it a software slowly but surely like I'm learning some Python I'm learning how to write scripts I talked about that today on Twitter and then like html5 CSS like I'm I'm trying to get to the point where I think I'll blend all that stuff back in front end but I I was just never as excited about it and that was one of the reasons why I never got a degree in like computer science or anything like that I really just stick with the hardware and then I try to figure out how the hardware works and if some software's mixed in fine I learned something but I'm not gonna just go to school and just learn software like I just I'm not as excited about that and then to answer your other question yeah I can tell the difference to HD and so HD 720 is what you mean by that so that's official HD and then Full HD is 1080 for those who are wondering so yeah you can really tell especially on like a monitor or TV right when when aspect just well when your screen size is much bigger but when you're talking about a six inch screen in my opinion like if I hold my pixel three which has a similar screen size to the iPhone 10 arm this is a 1080p screen that the 10r has just slightly higher than 720p screen I can tell the difference if I get close if I hold it far back enough away like if I hold it this far away I can't tell it all I have to get pretty close to see it and I have perfect vision without glasses up close it's I can't see far away so it's not that but that that's really the that's I think the issue I think people kind of blew it out of proportion in my opinion I did not think it was that big a deal look I'm a screen junkie I can tell it Evers between 1080p and 1440p easily but on a on a screen on a cell phone screen if I can it's like barely noticeable and even then I would happily trade that slight resolution difference for a severe bump up in battery life and that was a justification I was trying to make in the video it was like look yeah it's lower and people are gonna you know take this bit of information and just like completely take a dump on the 10r because it's an $800 phone it comes with a seven seven sixty eight ish P screen but it really wasn't that big a deal to me it might be to you it just wasn't to me so that's why that's why I said it in the video I'm not afraid to speak my mind anyway microphone I'm using rayon I said this a little earlier in the livestream is the Barringer b1 paired with a Yamaha mg 10x you mixer that stuff is linked down below maybe not the behringer I use an 80/20 35 behind me for most videos on the channel but for live streams it's the behringer anyway I am going to sign off bloodbath as to the 1660 I is worth it check out the beginning of the live stream I talked about all the stuff in the beginning if you're just now tuning in I appreciate you guys for watching I'm gonna sign out because it's a little over 10 20 right now here it's a little late I know it's even later or possibly even earlier the next day for some of you depending on where you are on the planet but I appreciate you guys watching hopefully you had a little fun here in this live stream and again we do this pretty much every Sunday night unless something comes up like CES or I'm like severely sick so stay tuned for next Sunday's livestream we'll pick other pairs of interesting stuff to talk about I'll also be I think appearing on Brian's stream as well over at ekia city so stay tuned for his live stream if you want a bit of kind of a co-op over there Brian's a good guy and we have fun kind of just firing ideas off of each other so anyway I'm excited about that you guys have been awesome tonight I will see you in the next one actually the next video which I'll upload I think Tuesday don't hold me to that but it'll be probably around to you I do everything really myself I don't have an editor I don't have a cameraman I don't have a script person like it's all done by me so it kind of just depends on how quickly I can get something done without compromising the quality and that's ultimately subjective so sometimes it's not gonna be as good but hopefully the information contained in the video is still spot-on and that's what I think you guys value the most about this channel because when I started I was filming on like a POS like Nikon I don't know is Chief like a hundred dollar camera watch some of our first videos wanna know what that looks like anyway I'm signing off you guys have been awesome this is science studio and we'll catch you again next video
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