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How Powerful is Nvidia's GTX 1070?

2016-05-14
it is a little strange that most of the focus recently has been on the 1080 and not the 1070 I mean even Nvidia CEO Jenson Wang said about three or so sentences about the 1070 at the keynote speech go ahead have a listen but I have more gtx 1070 6.5 teraflops eight gigabytes of g5 memory faster than a Titan X faster than a Titan X 300 and $79 MSRP and for the Nvidia designed founders Edition for 49 available all over the world June 10 I'm not even joking that's all he said about the 1070 I watched the speech all the way through and that was it that little cliff you just saw so that's probably why we don't see much in terms of specifications in regards to the 1070 on the web now there's plenty on the 1080 and he in fact he talked personally about the 1080 for quite a while but the 1070 was was pretty much kept on the DL and that's a little interesting to me I wonder if that means the 1070 is actually the bet buy and they just don't want people to know that because it might steal away from some of the 1080 sales earlier on nonetheless I want to investigate speculate make a few suggestions maybe throw out a few opinions of my own let you guys gauge for yourselves what you think about the 1070 and if invidious personal claims hold true first up I want to talk about floating-point performance because we actually do have physical numbers from Nvidia in this regard for the 1070 so we have the Titan X at seven teraflops the 980ti at 6.5 and also coincidentally the 1070 at 6.5 now this falls in line with the videos claimed the 1070 is on par if not a little better than the Titan X when it comes to certain workloads faster than a Titan X faster than a Titan X but I have my personal doubts about this claim and here's why now disclaimer upfront the 10 70s CUDA core count is not released yet but going off of what I've seen is the trend over the past five or six years it seems like the 10 7 should expect somewhere around 2000 CUDA cores when you take into consideration the fact the 1080 has 25 60 even when you consider the fact that the 1070 is based on 16 nanometer Pascal transistor design compared to the Maxwell design of the Titan X 28 nanometers I still don't see it I don't see the potential that the 1070 has to beat the Titan X in any workload whatsoever I may be completely wrong about that and will certainly find out come June 10th but for now I'm going to remain very skeptical about this claim another way you can tell is through the TDP s of both cards graphics card quote unquote power ultimately has nothing to do with the frame it's that you'll see in games I mean look at the r9 390 how much power that card demands versus the GTX 970 given the fact that both cards are fairly similar in most titles when you take into account the 1080s TDP and then compare that to the type Nexus and construct a few ratios to relate the coup de coeur count to the total power draw and thus overall performance the 1070 just doesn't stand a chance at least from these calculations these might be entirely inaccurate like I said what we're going off of right now is a single slide what you're seeing right now is all we know essentially about the 1070 so all of this is speculation but a lot of you have been asking me about what to expect from the 1070 given that we don't know much and that the Nvidia CEO really didn't say much about it so this is the best I can do for now and another note the 1070 will feature eight gigabytes of gddr5 this plain old g5 memory just like we've seen in the past with other maxwell cards no HBM no gddr5 X just gddr5 that is such a pain to say gddr5 nothing special there and while it hasn't officially been revealed it does appear that the 1070 will be based on a 256 or 384 bit memory bus so expect memory speeds similar to those of the Titan X and the 980ti and there's nothing wrong with that but it's certainly no gddr5 X memory speed eight gigabytes appears to be a middle ground between the 980ti is six gigabytes of onboard vram and the Titan X is 12 and no we're not looking at a 7.5 plus 0.5 gigabyte issue like we saw in the 970 crossing my fingers here I want to conclude the video by conducting a few performance to price ratios so stick around I've taken the teraflop values of the three graphics card that showed in the original performance graph and divided each by the current MSRP s you can pick up the Titan X for about 1,200 bucks on Amazon the 980ti for about 6 and the 1070 on June 10th for around 400 bucks the ratios you're seeing in this graph are the performance values per US dollar spent so with every dollar you spend you should expect to see X amount of performance out of each card clearly the 980ti is almost twice as valuable as a 1080 way comes to performance per dollar and on top of that if we take invidious claim at six point five teraflops for their 1070 it does appear that they're 1070 is an even better bargain than the 980ti what I want to say now is wait if you are currently looking for graphics card especially from the green team it would just be absurd to purchase one before definitely May 27th but even June 10th in my opinion just because we we need to get these cards in our computers and we need to test them before you guys make decisions based on just what Nvidia is saying we cannot take what any company says at face value before we actually get our hands on them because let's be real they're trying to make money they're trying to build a pipe it's it's it's just business and unfortunately that's what it's come to these days the 1070 appears to be the better bargain between the two but I'm not ready to put my personal stamp of approval on that card just yet until I have it in the computer and I've already run the benchmarks I did tell you all that I'd be purchasing the 1070 over the 10 ages because it does seem to be the better bargain and more of you appear to be interested in that so stay tuned come June 10th it will take a bit longer for the card to get here but once it does I assure you I will have the benchmarks and we will have a finalized tally of what to expect between the two cards should you decide to purchase one or the other give the video a thumbs up if you think it deserves one give it a thumbs down if you just hate everything about life click the subscribe button if you haven't already in stay tuned for more tech related content on the channel this is science studio thanks for learning with us
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