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okay to start this video off if you do what I did in this video you're going to void your CPUs warranty now whether or not you're actually going to need to turn in your CPU because it randomly dies on you halfway through your workload is a different story I mean how many people do you really hear of needing to RM a CPU usually if it's dead it's dead out of the box I mentioned this again later on the video but you should keep that in mind because if you do want that peace of mind then doing what I'm gonna do here is definitely not advised now with that said I think that the benefits are worth it and under I would say most applications and the reason being is because most Intel CPUs nowadays have terrible thermal interfaces and that is the result of Intel choosing to use very terrible formal compound between the die and the IHS most of us noticed by now it's basically equitable the toothpaste now I'm sure you've seen other prominent tech tubers deal with CPUs on their channels this by no means is a new process it's definitely something we had to resort to thanks to Intel's choice of terrible Tim but is the first time I've ever delivered a $2,000 processor and I'm very nervous because I've never used this tool before although I trust the Bauer I mean the AI knows exactly what he's doing and this is his tool here that you can buy have it linked down below along with a few other dealer tools if you're interested so you know if I destroy this 18 for 36 threaded $2,000 chip I'm kind of screwed because it's the only one I have and you know I can't I can't afford $2,000 CPU so let's go ahead and get to the dealer process again a huge disclaimer this will avoid your CPU warranty if you do what I'm doing with any Intel see any CPU in general actually I mean if you want to even do you live like soldered on AMD CPUs with ovens and special delayed kits you can do that but you're going to void your warranty so keep that in the back of your head when watching this video if you're deciding on whether or not deleting is worth it maybe this will give you the pros and cons of to the pros being much lower core temperatures but the con being it can't turn it if you happen to destroy it so let's get started the Sennheiser PC 37 X is a new take on gaming headsets prioritizing both a sleek design and optimal comfort that's a tricky combo their audio is top-notch as always that's no surprise but the microphone here is a thing of beauty you're actually listening to it right now not bad for a plug and play headset click the link in the video description for more details all right so the first thing I wanted to do was set up a baseline now this is a 79 80 XC it's actually an engineering sample that's why it says until confidential on it so this isn't one you could just obtain on the open market unless somebody who's not supposed to be selling this sells it on a site like eBay but it's for all intents and purposes just a generic 79 80 XC and actually mine out of the box is not a great overclocker so there's nothing really special about this chip in fact it's probably on the lower end in terms of bidding I was sure to follow the Aegean approved thermal compound application method it's detailed on their mod mat actually that I'm using right now just to be consistent granted this isn't going to matter at the end of this video because I decided not to use the IHS at all if our actually send a direct dye application tool so that I could just mount the cooler directly to the die the CPU getting rid of that you know first layer of thermal interface between the die and a piece of metal that's actually something I want to touch on very briefly when you think about the efficiency is involved with transferring heat from the die up to the CPU cooler and then to the air there are quite a number of roadblocks in between so kinda like a double layered sandwich if you go because you have Tim between both the IHS and the die and then Tim between the IHS and the CPU cooler so heat is being transferred between two layers of thermal compound which is not very efficient in its own right it's better than using toothpaste under most circumstances but it's still not perfect and that can allow heat to build up over the CPU and thus increase core temperatures that's where a tool like this comes in so handy it allows you to eliminate one lifts to inefficient layers of thermal compound effectively lowering core temperatures it's why deleting exists in the first place so without further ado I present to you stock Intel I 1979 ATX II thermals you can see in i-264 stress tests that our I 9 reached about 60 to 65 degrees Celsius it is hard to score this was again is at stock though there was no manual overclock no manual v core but we did eventually above the beak or up to one point - and manually overclock across all 18 cores - 4.2 gigahertz and temperatures were not that great we actually thermal throttled a lot and that's why I don't think that these results are actually a fair interpretation of what's going on at these frequencies because the CPU was actually bottling down its frequency 1cor attempts became too high I know this isn't a super controlled experiment I don't intend for it to be I just wanted to get the point across at overclocking 18 core Intel CPUs I mean really anything from the x-29 lineup it's just a major paint sky like X is not only super expensive but it's also terrible from a thermal standpoint because Intel uses such terrible Tim between the IHS and the die of the chip it effectively cuts the CPS at their knees I mean why have unlock multipliers if you can't overclock them because you put terrible tires on a really fast car to mean that it just makes no sense and that's why we're going to deal it today the next thing to do then is to remove the CPU from the system and then use this tool here to remove the IHS from the chip when I say chip I'm talking about the board underneath that big metal plate it's actually really cool and just mind-blowing to picture something like this I mean this is lighter than a potato chip but there are billions of transistors packed inside this tiny little mirror that's hidden underneath this terrible thermal interface from from Intel anyway just picture it being super shiny and clean I haven't cleaned this one yet but it's just so light I mean it feels like a potato chip but it is so dense and it's so powerful it just makes you think you know like how far we've come in 10 or 20 years so anyway back to this kit I know it looks very daunting and kind of confusing but it actually does something very simple so as you twist this screw right here you can see it puts pressure on this little hinge this hinge applies a reaction force to this huge thing here just another chunk of metal again and this pushes a plate that pushes against the IHS of an i9 CPU so with the included little torque ripple not with a torque wrench but just a little tool to use the torque this screw here you can apply an intense amount of pressure to the IHS eventually dislodging it it's a - the chip by the way just lodging it from the chip below it sounds super scary I know you probably think you're gonna just snap the whole chip because of all the pressure that you're applying to this thing but it's actually super straightforward and I was surprised with how clean the results were now once the IHS is removed you're gonna want to scrape off all this extra gunk this was what was used to bond the IHS to the chip I use a toothpick I just kind of scrape through it you know the chip itself it's pretty sturdy just be careful there are a lot of different components on this board very tiny resistors and whatnot that could just chip off if you're not very careful I also recommend using nail polish or something on the like to coat all these tiny components because if you decide to use liquid metal maybe conduct or not that is of course conductive it's one of the reasons why it's such a great transfer of heat but it could short-circuit your chip and create you know bridges so electricity can pass from component to component or it otherwise shouldn't that'll kill your chip you'll be very upset I wanted to show you guys very quick see how does this paste just kind of flakes off it's almost like it's kind of crusty doesn't want to stick to anything and that just shows you how low quality it actually is I mean you can like mold this stuff it's not a liquid at all now if you plan to direct dye mount a CPU cooler you're going to want to remove the stock eye lens is basically a loading mechanism for the CPU it keeps it firmly pressed against the pins on the motherboard to ensure proper contact the reason why you have to remove this because once you remove the IHS of the CPU and you keep it removed for direct die mounting the total height of the CPU is going to be reduced which means that first off this socket thing here this lever is never going to actually keep your CPU secure it's gonna be wobbling around in there because it's designed for CDs with IHSS in the i-9 lineup also the cooler that you mount on top of this bracket here is going to be too high to make contact direct contact with the die of the CPU so you need a lower kit and that is exactly what devourer offers for the i9 series just two plates and four Torx screws and there we go we have direct die mount ability with our i9 79 80 XC something about this picture here just looks extremely cool so now it's time to apply mx4 thermal compound I'm not sure exactly how to do this I know you want to spread it evenly over the entire die so I'm just going to kind of do a Multi X pattern to ensure that enough thermal compound is covering the dyes is probably a little too much and I'm sure people are going to scream in the comment section but as long as the entire dyes cover and you don't have a huge chunk of you know thermal compound between the cooler and the dye of the chip we're gonna be okay and I did lift this up the first time after applying this to ensure that the entire dye wasn't fact covered with thermal compound and now for the results first impressions I was definitely impressed with the way that the CPU handled itself under idle conditions at stock we're talking room temperature here I mean there was literally no Delta between the temperature in this room and the CPU core is at idle like 23 24 degrees Celsius and that again is thanks to direct eye contact so that's definitely a plus but let's see how things handle now under load this is where I expect we'll see the difference and sure enough we did see a significant difference in the way that see if you handled itself I was and was getting some weird air with i-264 but while the actual application was running I saw the temperatures had leveled off quite a bit they didn't shoot up to 90 95 degrees immediately like they had with the die you know not being exposed directly to the cooler so a bit of a mixed bag here I I don't want to just go out and say yeah if you buy an Intel CPU should definitely deal it it's not something that I think is for everybody in fact it's probably more of an issue thing still even though I definitely trust your Bowers kit way more than just like a I don't know a scalpel or whatever else you want to use to scrape the IHS off the chip in general his kids are very good I do recommend them if you want to do it but should you do it in my eyes I'm it's really tough for me to recommend honestly I mean I don't recommend I not to begin with but if you want to deal in like a 7700 K or an 8700 K I would say the only circumstance in which you should feel totally comfortable doing it is if you maybe want to upgrade anyway and you just want to see maybe this will be the difference between you upgrading and sticking with the current CPE that you have because if you lose a CPU then if you have a terrible deal it and then CPU you know it's crack turd just doesn't function anymore then you were already planning on upgrading so not much of a loss there now if you turn the question back around on me and ask me whether or not I would delete a processor especially like this one here that's so expensive I would tell you yes now I didn't buy this something on a TI see on my own that was sent to me by a motherboard manufacturer but if I had done this myself I bought $1,000 processor before they get I've spent a lot of money on CPUs in the past not because I find that they're worth it but because I am really interested in testing those components and in my eyes it's more or less an investment I hope to eventually see that return through revenue from videos and ads you know that we put in videos whatever but I would have done it at least once if it failed I would never do it again that's how I treat things like this you know I will keep doing it until I noticed that my Luck's run out and then I won't touch it ever again that's kind of how you know how people do it when they are gambling in the casino let's say you know and they keep striking it big they keep winning to keep winning then they have one big loss that's where you call it quits you keep going till you lose and then you walk away I even do the blackjack and do that with slots or whatever you're usually a losing slot I don't recommend those but if you wanna have a little fun and you don't want to lose a lot of money that's how you should do it and that's kind of how I do it with these CPUs I've deleted this is now my third D lid and I have not had a failed delete attempt yet so that's kind of where I'm going to leave it it's really up to you I think it's worth it especially for these hotter chips although I 9 in general is just a terrible platformer I think I wouldn't recommend I 9 to anybody but if you do have one laying around do you letting it will definitely make it come alive it'll lower your tongue so keep your system quieter and it'll probably increase of the lifespan your CPU to some extent because it's not running as hot anymore I do want to hear from you guys in the comments section below though what do you think about deleting have you done it before is it something you've ever considered if so why if not why not I want to get some insight from you guys and how risk-averse you are in general and if you think something like this is worth it give this video a thumbs up you thought it was cool dislike it if you feel like an played opposite click that red subscribe button if you haven't already you can join us if you want to pay a special like $5 a month get like badges and all that crazy stuff it's up to you really and be sure to stick around for more content like this on the channel this is science to do thanks for by the way a special little insert here while we're waiting for the software to install before we run the test see how easy it is to deal it a z-series chip so we have the 80 600 K I believe in here and this is good for any modern mainstream Intel processor to fit in this back as early as I believe we don't want to try to deal in solder chips but you could go back as early as well if you wanted and I use this tool to t lid so it's a very simple tool here I mean there's little bit three parts so you have the base and that's where the CPU sits I don't turn it because it just kind of sits inside there and you can see there's space on the back as well for the small little bits on the actual board and then you slide this little plate into it until it stops there's a little Ridge on one side this is what you're gonna torque into the IHS to get it to attach a very simply take a little tool like this start twisting it you'll hear some weird sounds and there we go so once it gives way you know that the IHS has been detached from the board from the chip itself unscrew this and see how it turned out just totally off-the-cuff by the way I didn't want to you know planets wanted to show you just how simple it is to use so it's slightly crooked now it's because the glue that they used to attach the IHS to to the chip has now been dislodged and there you go you can see crappy Intel Tim under there we're gonna get rid of that we're going to apply something next for this as well you could go with something much better I conduct an author more grizzly whatever I'm using an X for just because I want to show you how terrible until Tim actually is so we're gonna clean this up we'll scrape off the gunk that they used to attach the IHS to the chip and then we'll re reapply thermal compound better compound and see what the temp data is on this as well let's see how simple it is like if it's you know I know that you're a little worried about doing something like this to a chip right because you avoid your warranty I mean how many times honestly though are you gonna want to turn a CPU right for a defective chip that really happens usually if they're defective they're defective out of the box they won't die randomly on you but nonetheless if you're comfortable with that you can see how simple the process is and this kit from der Bauer is the easiest I've ever used