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LIVE Cyber Monday Deal Hunt! - Science Studio After Hours #31

2018-11-25
and we should be live going to double-check just in case yeah yeah so unless YouTube is lying to me I am talking to all of you right now and how you guys doing this is a low latency stream we're testing this just to see how how much worse the video quality is right now as it's been factually the past six or so live streams we've been streaming from the Sony camera to an advert media capture card and look in hindsight like the capture card is only a 1080p 60 capable capturecard and I regret that because I I would much prefer 4k 60 just for those who have the ability to stream at that rate you know to watch the streams so yeah I'm gonna yeah someone says post the deals how about checking the video description they're already down there you should probably just probably look at that first we are right now we're ready to dive through these again if you just want to look at the links those are just the ones that I found I use Newegg and Amazon primarily those are two of the bigger text sources here in the States for us tech enthusiasts I guess but I'm gonna talk about my rationale as to why I chose those parts and also talk about some things that I expect we will see in the the next few days possibly because these deals tend to extend about a week or so long unless of course we run out of stock of certain items which happened actually the best deal that I found so far was I believe it was a rise in 717 hundred for like a hundred and fifty bucks or something along those lines very very cheap we're talking below core i5 comparable core i5 CP prices which is just at this point it's just laughable like AMD can and will do these things in the future and Intel just takes it like that I don't know if they care if they wish they could drop prices according to many sources they still can't they're still struggling with inventory just because of the 12 nanometer fabrication being consumed by both chipsets and CPUs at this point we have videos talking about this stuff but you guys are here for the deals so we're gonna jump into that good stuff and if you guys find anything as well I'm gonna have we have Co fossils the moderators here in the chat if we have issues posting some links I know YouTube like completely bans links for some reason and in chat boxes but you guys find some good stuff let us know even if you don't want to link just tell us the product and where you found it and we might even include it here on this live stream just because I'm open to sharing anything goodies you guys found online I don't think that we should keep the secret even though you know you want to be the first to the product I totally get that just make sure that you you know buy the product if you want to buy it before you post it on this chat or any other place that might have a little bit of publicity because these things you know the inventory levels are pretty much on the DL you don't know how many they have in stock and if ten people buy them boom that could be it you know this could be the ten people that get it at a good price so what I'm going to do is switch to I wanna make sure that this actually works I'm gonna switch to my desktop here and you guys are gonna see the first deal in our list so y'all let me know what's going on Thanks bazinga totally appreciate that uh that hair coming I know it's it's bad you know like here's how I know when I need a haircut when I can't brush it and it do what I wanted to do anymore that's pretty much the that's the limit for me anyway I know this is kind of a weird window here you're looking at Amazon Prime I have the zoomed out for these three this is something I showed in the Black Friday deal video but you can see 64 gigs for an SD card like this 1099 it's basically a freaking Steel 32 gig card again pretty similar transfer rates reads and writes 6 bucks like it's kind of a sin to not purchase something like this for 6 dollars if you're in need of any SD card at all actually I bought two of these here the 128 you can see here 20 bucks and if you have Amazon Prime that's 20 bucks shipped so if you guys are into some you know super transferrable storage drives like SD cards maybe you want one for your phone or for a camera maximally using the two 128's for my cameras one of them is actually in the camera right now then this this would be a sweet drive for I think the reads here up to a hundred megabytes per second reads and then 90 megabytes per second right that's plenty for fork thirty that's what I do here so by the way if the chatbox is like in the way of anything I'm sure it will be I can get rid of that so just uh just yell at me if if you can't see anything that you are interested in noticing on screen scroll it now now to the second link we have a sapphire rx Vega a 64 I'm gonna check the look I'm watching the live stream kind of live just to see if I'm overlapping anything I think I'm hiding the price maybe I might I might be no I'm not okay all right cool so yeah this is it's a Vegas 64 card and think what you want about Vega I do think the these cards were largely flops for a number of reasons I think inventory levels the fact that these came out like right before everything just hit the fan through guards to graphics card prices and the mining craze these cards are still viable for gaming they definitely are Vegas 64 is comparable to a GTX 1080 or even to a to a degree in art r-tx 27 if you want to look at it from a Turing perspective and right now 400 bucks is pretty sweet the only thing is though you're getting the blower style card here it's a sapphire branded blower start cover is basically a reference cooler for all intents and purposes so should just come up backplate I did not check this one came in the back plate it does though most cards of this caliber gonna have back plate so just I don't know why you wouldn't want to have a back plate at this price but you can see here three DisplayPort outs single HDMI out that should be pretty run-of-the-mill at this point especially for a higher-end card and you guys know Vegas 64 I have my review of Vegas 64 on the channel I wasn't too pleased with the price of Vega 64 when it came out with respect to what we were getting from a GTX 1080 write or even a gtx 1070 i do i do think that vega 64 is a slightly it's just it's an alternative it really is because you could get a gtx 1080 for basically the same price at this point so if you're if you're want to support AMD if you appreciate AMD software then that might be the route you take i have honestly if i to choose my choice would be probably a gtx 1080 just because I'm more familiar again with Nvidia software I'm familiar with GeForce experience this isn't me touting Nvidia believe me I have my own issues with how and video released this latest generation of cards but now I find a cheese just to be perfectly you know open with you guys it would be a 1080 for me just because again that's I think there's little more value in a 1080 I think some games do run considerably better on a GTX 1080 then the Vegas 64 counterpart and ten aids are really there they're really power efficient and very quiet so you know you don't like blower style cards you definitely don't want this one now we're gonna switch on over to whoops I just completely booked put you're down one you see make sure that I I swapped it correctly you should be looking at now yeah okay cool and Acer gaming series 24 inch 144 heard to 1080p panel now III want to disclose I should have done this up front all the links down below there's our affiliate links again I've talked about this in my last video with regards to you know how we get paid from affiliate links it's a very small percentage usually no more than about 3% so if you click on any of these links and you navigate anywhere I need I'm buying something we get a small Commission for basically leading you know the the buyer to the seller for kind of I guess in a way working as a middleman for the exchange there but all those links are to products that I and will go through all of these that I have at least some degree of hands-on experience with or maybe have hands-on experience with a derivative of that product so this one is like a killer deal in my opinion I think that this is gonna give me a haircut if this thing in my opinion this is a this is a heck of a deal I am using an Acer 4k panel right now I really like Acer screens I think acer makes some of the better screens out there just with my experience these panels now I'm not too sure about the pressure as a TN panel oh and don't want to say it's a TN panel it's fine you know what's funny is if they don't say that it's an IPS panel then it's probably a TN panel and it's not something you typically just promote because 10 is the usually regarded as more obsolete screen technology let's just go to specs here and sure enough TN so there you go so if you're against TN I totally get it right I mean you have the right to decide what you think is good and what's not but I think I think teens a great compromise actually a very reasonable compromise for a hundred and seventy dollar fourteen sorry 144 Hertz panel even in the 1080p resolution 1080p at 24 inches about as about as high as we're going to go I would say if you get up to 27 inches 1440 piece gonna be your sweet spot with respect to pixel per inch densities right basically your ability to discern individual pixels becomes more apparent the larger the screen size gets if your resolution is fixed right so when you jump up from 24 to 27 if there's a noticeable size increase there and if you're sitting roughly 2 to 3 feet from your monitor I would say that the jump and resolution from 1084 teen 40s is justified but in the case of a 24 inch panel I think 1080p is just a sweet spot especially considering in this price and there is I know I see cyber nuance just pointed out that there is a $20 promo as well so if you guys use the CM 8101 promo code then you'll also get an extra 20 bucks off so that means you can get this monitor for a hundred and fifty bucks if you have Newegg like the equivalent of new like primary new ike premier i think is what it's called i used to have it when i was a student but i just i order more stuff from Amazon so I just have Prime but if you have premier or whatever it's called and you can get free shipping on that as well I think it's free three-day shipping for Newegg but shipping here let's just like assume let's just assume we're going to uh okay Oh shipping is maybe they're gonna tell us after I enter all my stuff anyway I don't expect shipping to be too expensive here and yeah I think that's a really great monitor again check out the link below if you're interested in that monitor let me know if you have it this is probably something I'll actually buy myself just to review but I'm very confident again an Acer panel's I'm not gonna recommend something I think is absolute crap you guys wouldn't trust me again when it comes to mending and all that good stuff but I think it's a I think it's a great deal just on paper alone that reviews look pretty good and we'll see Logitech c920 and 22 price on weird to say c9 - - anyway if you guys are interested in streaming at all if you're just a little maybe you're a little hesitant with regards to the amount of money it's gonna cost to get started in in in the streaming business if you will maybe you want to stream to twitch you don't have many viewers maybe let's say you have 5-10 viewers right are you expect to get that much when you start out it's still pretty good amount if you could those concurrent but even if you're a hundred two hundred concurrent a c920 or a c9 22 X in this case is a perfectly viable camera because here's my rationale behind that when I decide let's say let's say I want to play pub G right and I want my viewers to watch the game not necessarily me then what I'm going to do is shrink my camera window down on that display screen that you guys see live very you know do a very small corner let's say I put on the bottom left corner or bottom right corner wherever the map isn't with respective pub G you guys are gonna notice that I'm using let's say 720p 60fps or 1080p you might notice the framerate difference there especially if you're upscaling the framerate to 60 if you're playing on 30 but if you're gonna be streaming a game I expect you'll be streaming at 60fps at 60 P whatever so I don't think that the resolution necessarily matters and I don't think you need a super high-end camera with a capture card to give yourself a really crispy look on screen because nobody cares about necessarily you they're looking at what you're doing on screen if you're gonna be playing if you're gonna be a twitch streamer twitch gamer then in my opinion yeah that's that's what I would go with the c920 2x and actually Lisa uses the c920 and the c920 - is the one that kind of isolates you it deletes your background I'm not sure how effective this is I've seen many people use it and it looks to be a pretty efficient way to do it without needing a green screen so that technology is pretty cool and again look out of like roughly 10,000 customer reviews about 4.3 stars out of 5 I would say for all three of these here that's a pretty good ratio and at least it just came it and because it's a pretty good ratio and I don't expect you guys to just rely on reviews and told you guys not to do that she's standing behind the camera now nobody got ten thousand it's a pretty good sample and again we have testimonials here like Lisa uses the c920 how good is your webcam good it's good yeah so she likes it and if Lisa likes it you know she could she just she's not a big twitch streamer but she wants to get big and she's been trying to get back into it she's gonna get back into it next week yeah next week I just realized that nobody saw you because I was showing the screen the whole time sorry anyway yeah I think this was really good now I just kind of summed this one up fifty bucks is pretty cheap pretty entry level camera but it will get the job done so if you're into twitch stuff then there you go moving on now to the crucial mx-5 hundred two and a half inch SSD this is a typical internal SSD these right here are pretty baller because they only cost roughly sixty bucks now I did see a couple others I saw another SSD I believe it was from I want to say it was from a data and a data had one for fifty nine bucks so I mean SSDs right now are super cheap that's really what I want you to take away from this this isn't this isn't strictly a Black Friday deal per se you can see this one was used to be eighty to ninety nine but I mean come on so sixty five bucks is really good this again probably will last through Black Friday week and maybe into Christmas time but if you are in need of a roughly you know half terabyte drive or so then $64.99 in my opinions as a freaking good price is what I'll say about it and then if you want to drop down to a 250 gig good for an OS and maybe a couple Steam games Adobe suite whatever look at just over 40 bucks and again this is on Newegg so if you guys are interested check out that link below let's see they do have the m dot 2 version that's I'm curious if I see the m dot to use I mean these are gonna be the same these are just the SATA data in about twos so essentially the same reads and writes just a different form Derr again it should be connected directly to your motherboard so you won't actually have a two and a half inch drive sticking out anywhere that's a fairly bigger intrusive just a little bit of flexibility there looks like a $10 difference so it's up to you but this is just one of the ones I found I was scrolling through and if you guys have any yeah I see some you know Leslie just said that you know mx-5 hundreds a 60 Evo's ultra three DS they're all really good friends I trust crucial crucial is one of the ones that I do trust and crucial is a micron brand I also trust Samsung definitely and then I trust a data probably those are my big three when it comes to SSDs I've had those I've had many drives from all three of them and they all worked out very well I actually haven't had a single drive die and you guys know how many computers we build with tons of drives and stuff so it's just a first-hand testimony oh they're up next on the list again you can find these links down below this is the team group T force Delta R GB RAM these modules are pretty sick I actually have I'm not used this specific kit I've used the the nighthawk ddr4 modules basically the exact same modules they just have a different heatsink on them I'm pretty sure these are all Samsung B dies if I'm not mistaken I want to say they are I remember them telling me at Computex and I'm not mistaken your Samsung B dies I have to double check on that but very reliable again these are pretty fast modules too you can see we're at about 3,000 megahertz this is optimal for if you're gonna run these with horizon platform 3,000 megahertz is pretty much where you start to see a severe diminishing returns curve play out you jump from 21 to 33 megahertz to about 26 66 you see a huge reduction in latency with respect to the Infinity fabric and that of course speeds up everything right your entire system feels more responsive especially in game and then if you jump up to 3000 the difference between that 2656 isn't nearly as big as from 21 33 to 20 666 but it's still a noteworthy jump I would say you'll get a few extra frames in most games and so if you're you know curious about that this is why I would justify a faster kid of RAM in a nutshell for rise in platforms in particular intel doesn't really matter most applications including games aren't going to be frequency dependent with respect to Ram and honestly games aren't dependent in general with the on the frequency of RAM it's just because of the way that AMD ties infinity fabric into timings Ram timings and read frequencies that's why it games are indirectly you know performing better with faster RAM kits on rising platforms but just make sure if you go in with a rise in one platform let's say 1700 or 1600 you know 1600 X any of those chips they're gonna be pretty stubborn most of them when it comes to overclocking running XMP out of the box I suggest updating your BIOS to the latest version if possible and just kind of playing with it from there you might not be able to enable XMP at all I would not be surprised none of my rising samples we're able to run XMP out of the box so you might have to do some manual tinkering with your ram frequencies and timings that's always a pain overclocking memory sucks especially when you're going past spec but if you can get it again to 3000 that's pretty much your sweet spot so yeah these look really good I can attest to this firsthand the RGB Tsar very diffused they look really good and look for a hundred and ten bucks I know again I said this in the last video it's kind of crazy to think that 16 gigs of ram for a hundred and ten bucks or so is a good deal because two years ago it really wasn't a good deal you get these for 80 bucks even 70 bucks sometimes but 110 for right now this is a good price if you were waiting for Ram prices to go down before you built your first PC I'd say jump all over this this is pretty much everything you could want and a kid of RAM and this is going to be aura Asus aura compatible know it's compatible pretty much everything I'm pretty sure you can sync it up with a a soos or a sink I'm pretty sure it works with gigabytes software as well as well as MSI mystic light so all you really have to do is plug these these modules these dims into a motherboard that's compatible with this stuff and then you can control all the lighting via your motherboard software you don't even need to download dedicated software for these modules which i think is really just save space and time you don't have to clutter your desktop with a ton of otherwise pointless applications okay moving on to one of my favorite cases actually of all time you guys know this one very well the fractal design mesh fic and the reason why I pointing this one out is because well you can see right here 75 bucks for this case a tempered glass version of this case I'm pretty sure that I'm pretty sure I this was a while back so I don't remember I know that defines C had a non tempered glass version at first and then they came out with a tempered glass version I don't know if the metruff I see yeah I did it did have a non typical s version well I'm not sure that answers my question I wasn't sure if they had an acrylic version first but anyway tempered glass I mean this is basically the same price as a comparable acrylic version if they had one so 75 bucks I think is a really good deal again these usually retail for about 90 to 100 dollars and you're gonna get great air flow with this case again the whole front panel is basically one big just slab a mesh so you can stack fans up front the only thing I would keep in mind when you buy this case again I've talked about this in my build logs with this case also in some dedicated reviews of fractal products in the past this particular chassis is very narrow from a depth perspective and so what I mean by that is if you plan on putting a really long graphics card into your system and then also maybe an a IO which will require fans as well so you've already got that much space taken up by your AI own fans and then your graphics card can't be too long or your you're gonna have to either remove one fan from your a IO combo or you have to replace the graphics card with a much smaller one that's something you don't really have to consider with most cases but because the fractal design mesh by C is so compact it's again something you will have to keep in mind so going back to this one again you could get the mesh by C typical old tge you could also get let's see the dark TG I never looked at these prices okay cool so these are all 75 bucks it looks like it says this one sold out honestly though I like the transparent tge better I do not like the dark tempered glass because then real all you can see inside are just the the LEDs you can't see any the components you guys want to show off that sexy Hardware not just the hardware LEDs that sets my take anyway and that's why I recommend the non Tintin tempered glass version so that's cooler that's the one in stock let me see we have a mesh refinement dark tge this one's basically the same price I mean there's just a little bit less just there just slightly less materials going to the production of these I'm just basically two slots are so smaller from a vertical perspective and then we also have the white model that's what's cool too so if you guys want a white mesh if I see 75 bucks I think that's a pretty good deal especially if you want a more unique-looking mesh if I see again with that white exterior that the interior is still black for the most part but you do get that beautiful white exterior save the grille in there I actually think I'm gonna get I think I'm gonna get one of these soon just to just to build in it because again this is one of my favorite cases it pretty much checks off all the boxes for me when it comes to full size it's not full size but you know ATX builds and I think it'll look really good on camera to be a nice system to put in the background alright so moving on to our last one here we have the EVGA supernova 1000 watt g1 plus this is definitely overkill for most builders out there that's just my opinion but if you are just looking for something that's gonna be future proof for friggin generations basically thousand watts is gonna do that for you it's gonna run super quiet even under severe load in most cases you're not gonna peak 500 watts which means this will probably be slightly inefficient for you because again the efficiency curve for most of these units is around a 50 percent load so if you're under fifty percent let's say you're consuming three hundred and fifty Watts under a full load with gaming let's say you're gaming and rendering the background I don't know usually when you're gaming you're not even consuming anywhere close to full system power but let's just assume you're consuming 350 this will not be as efficient as it would be if you were consuming 500 watts of power it's kind of hard to picture it that way we do have videos talking about what power supply fish these actually mean but if I had a ballpark it I'd say that if you were consuming 350 watts of power G 180 plus gold I believe is 90 yeah 90% efficient 92% efficient I think this is under an optimal load of 500 Watts roughly you're gonna be around an 80 85 and I'll put a little higher than that close to 90% efficient I was just still really good so if you're worried about that and people please you know they're sticklers about this kind of stuff and obviously this is again severe overkill but it's a modular power supply it's gonna run pretty quiet I trust EVGA power supplies for the most part and this one again great reviews you know they trust their products when they got 12 year warranties it's you know typically these are typically 10-year warranties which is it's one of the reasons why I love UGA power supplies but this is gonna be a great unit for really anybody building a semi new semi powerful system I would even trust this in like a custom loop you know with like three or four thousand dollars with the gear so that's just my take on it but 480 bucks can't really go wrong is typically a roughly $200 power supply so it's a heck of a see let's see 800 watt I'm gonna ya see the 850 watts more expensive so like Dovie it would be stupid to buy this one and pay more than to get the one that that's capable of the higher wattage the 75 watt is basically the same price as a thousand watt so again by the thousand watt instead and the 650 watt is again basically the same price as a thousand watts oh it just makes everybody just it would be dumb and in my opinion not to buy the higher wattage unit so uh I would get this one and for 80 bucks again you could pretty much swap this from system system for years and not have a problem let's see scrolling up Colossus says course there are M XOR mi if you want a really quiet power supply yeah and most of them cool fast most of they are gonna be really quite power supplies my ebj p2 is for example our dead silent might be quiet power supplies all of those are dead silent I've had a couple course a power supplies those were well I had one that was cheap it was pretty loud but the more expensive one I had I think it was actually I actually think it was and an RM X I'm not mistaken that was a very quiet power supply as well most of them are gonna be uh if they're loud power supplies you're gonna know about it I actually a video coming up soon about a particular unit actually from EVGA that's a lot louder than I expected and this is a pretty widespread issue we'll talk about but I would say yeah again this one here as far as I know G+ gonna be very quiet system under load even if you're not in that optimal peak efficiency range so that is basically nutshell what I found it was super compelling for Cyber Monday if I've been saying Black Friday instead you guys know what I mean I apologize but I am all yours now I'm looking at the chat and if you guys have anything that you would like to add anything you found it was really good maybe I missed it again I was looking at the the screen for the most part but I want you guys to share the knowledge if you were interested in doing that we would appreciate it we'll be able to throw a couple of these products up on screen for those who are eager to buy something within their price range get a good deal nothing wrong with trying to find deals nothing wrong with that it out let's see scrolling down yeah I see Vadim Quebec ski hey I actually bought a 34 inch 2560 1080 Alienware monitor at 34 inch sir and it's great for gaming sadly I got one with the defect so I'm sending it for a refund on ebay and getting the LG 34 you see 89 G which has identical specs my opinion on those I have a 34 inch actually this this panel right here behind me it's from via Tech that's a 34 inch panel and I I'm not I think when you get up to that size I think you should try if you can then your budget to jump up to the 1440p 34 40 panel it's just it's such a large screen and I know that that 1080p like the vertical aspect is gonna be the same whether you stretch it or not but when you're talking about 2560 20 mm 5 or 6 pixels across basically a 30 inch horizontal aspect it's the resolution just really isn't there for me the vo-tech panel i have is a 34 inch panel and it has I want to say I don't remember the P P off the top of my head but when I looked at a couple of the the review samples from Best Buy that they have on display they had one it was a 34 inch LG I think it was almost probably the same one that you're talking about I might be the one that Best Buy has on display I just I got about two feet from it and I could it just looked a little jagged to me and when you can kind of see the the pixels there it just tells me that the screen is a little too big but again if you have hardware that fits that that resolution let's say you have a graphics card that's perfect for 1080p maybe not higher in 4k stuff or 1440p stuff but good 1080p sweet spot maybe like a gtx 1060 or 1050 TI or rx5 6570 and I think that's a that's a that's a pretty good deal I just if I would have done that vet him I would have said drop it 229 inches I had a 29 inch 2560 by 1080 and that was a pretty good PPI for me not as high as not as high as I would like course nothing wrong with a higher ppi as long as you can drive those pixels but nonetheless that was just my preference there I'm going to scroll pull quick I think I missed a couple other super shots let's see yeah Victor's 22 $5 New Zealand dollars whatever however much that is I appreciate it victress is a good guy he's always been supporting us he's been pretty much every one of these live streams hey Greg keep trying to keep mine off a life at the moment find out last thing my dad is dying from leukemia my dude and has less than 60 days to live that is a freaking rough that that's that's rough man I didn't expect I didn't expect to read that just now that that I I am sorry our prayers are with you and we do hope your dad hope he fares through it man that's tough that sucks my grandpa actually has leukemia he's been doing alright recently they put him on I don't know if it was some experimental drug or whatever you know the way I look at it is like if you get a diagnosis like that like I'll try anything you know I tell myself I don't want to go through chemo blah blah blah but like when you have a family we got people you love you don't want to leave them obviously that's just that's a tough thing to deal with and you know god forbid I ever have to deal with something like that personally I would just I'd be open to anything you know or worst case it doesn't work out but at least you tried and I do hope that that your dad has some access to two things that could possibly hear him could help them out again 60 days to live that's a tough diagnosis though I must be it must be pretty pretty severe from what it sounds like victors I know you've you've reached a couple times in this court I don't know if this pertains the same thing I know I saw a couple other comments from you in a discord server I'll talk to you one-on-one dude I want to chat a little more with you about this and see what's going on so if you want to hang out the discord after the livestream I'm gonna pick it right on over to to my personal rig behind me and I'm gonna I'm gonna jump on discord and have a chat with you so if you got some time I'd like to do that I like to hear more about it just sometimes it helps to talk about it so if that's something that that we would like to do think it would help I I'd love to sit down with you so I just let me know let's see venom says terrible input lag it's really bad on OLED yep John are there any SSD deals you all know about John literally just went through SSDs - check out the links below to answer your question it's rolling down let's see but Papa so see war man 1 3 2 4 - don't let super chat my dude anyone used an OLED screen - game oh that's where I came from good or bad I think it really depends on the OLED OLED screens are going to have higher input lag it really it depends but in general they will they'll have higher input lag especially when compared to something like a TN panel but I'm not sure how severe that is going to be it's just a that's a tough that's a tough I don't know I really like OLED screen so I think they look really great when it comes to phones I basically can't choose a phone that doesn't have an OLED screen anymore which is why I'm so glad that the pixel 3 hasn't all that screen because if it didn't then I honestly it'd be really tough for me to recommend just in 2018 it just makes more sense for the mobile side of things you know when you're streaming or whatever you have like the the screen on always at night like all that stuff is just complemented by an OLED panel so that's my take on it my name is Jeff at science studio that's what's up bro that's why we come back a little love and prayers go a long way just like with the hurricane that's right I'm a man and to be honest you know my parents they we've basically I say we I've helped them three or four times Lisa and I go over there and try to help demo the house it's basically completely gutted now and they are living in a gutted house it's it's crazy to think about you know if you had told me this was gonna happen a year ago I probably laughs just because it's like you know I'm in my own little world they're in our world and it's like that that stuff can't happen you can't picture that stuff happening but but they're in it right now like they are experiencing it firsthand and then when you realize that it's not just them it's like they're there's so many people living in the same under the same conditions right now because their house was either completely wiped out or their roof got destroyed and everything inside flooded that was something that I hinted at in my satire studio video regarding FEMA's response to Hurricane Michael I talked about how my parents house was gonna be a total loss and it was deemed a total loss by their insurance company because the roof was but it had holes everywhere and when you have holes in your roofs then what happens is the water either floods your attic and then your ceiling starts falling apart piece by piece and then your flooring starts getting destroyed and all the components and furniture on the floor gets destroyed or the water sinks down and follows the rafters all the two-by-fours all the studs down into the walls and it sinks into the walls then it gets soaked up by the insulation and then the insulation gets all moldy it gets nasty it's literally unlivable because if you did live in there then you'd probably contract something pretty serious and when we were gutting a couple of rooms I mean that the insulation was just so disgusting it was all black and moldy and and still damp believe it or not just cuz it's been sealed off from everything else in the environment cuz it's sitting between brick and drywall you know so yeah it's it's tough okay I didn't mean for this chat to turn super negative or anything it's just you know that's the state of affairs right now and I know that the you know I know that our city is the only city going through anything serious right now I know the California's been do some serious wildfires from the past month or so people totally lost everything there I would argue that a fire is probably is worse than a hurricane if the fire destroys literally everything in your home at least in a hurricane you got some to an extent you got a warning you can get out we didn't have much of a warning at all in fact we had a mandatory evacuation announced two days before the storm hit so whether you want to call that enough time or not to give you some context people were still working in my city the night before the hurricane hit because their employers either wouldn't let them go or I mean you know business is business you're just you're just living day by day and when your last minute told you get out of a city because this is your category five hurricane is gonna hit you you know I changes everything and a lot of people can't keep up that or they just decide to brace it head-on you know and try to save as much as they can and then with a fire you know good gosh how do you stop a huge wildfire I can't imagine I've never been in the middle of a wildfire I hope I never am but again that's total destruction I mean how do you how do you salvage stuff that's burned like that you can't do that you might be able to salvage some stuff that's wet that gets soaked by water maybe ocean water to rainwater whatever but when it's burned by a fire it's gone so a lot of people lost a lot of things there so you gonna keep all those people everyone affected by these storms by these just natural disasters even man-made events just you know remember that people are going through some rough stuff you know and remember to be grateful for what you have even if you don't they don't feel like you had a lot you could probably have less than you have and that's the reason to be grateful so just uh yeah a little deep thought for for the day from science studio which I'm sure you don't hear very much but yeah let's see I want to see some good stuff folks to see Brian Schulz at science studio I've had a fractal no 202 did a review and I'm wondering if I can use that power supply in a normal ATX case will it fit okay good question Brian actually those power supplies are sfx form factor which means that they are not going to fit the conventional ATX mounting bracket if you will on the back of most ATX cases assuming in this case is support ATX power supplies you will need a an adapter basically it's a bracket that connects the mounting points for a typical ATX power supply onto a small form-factor power supply and sfx power supply so if you get that adapter just type in ATX to sfx power supply bracket on like new acre amazon I'm sure you'll find something shouldn't be too expensive it's just a piece of plastic or metal that kind of screws into your case and that is how you can take that power supply and throw it into an ATX build a good question though that's a really good question okay let's see some good stuff go fastest is buying a power supply that's twice as efficient twice as big as what you need is wasting your money because those are very efficient at idle ok Co fossa I don't think you understand how how inefficient it actually is actually only maybe two three percent less efficient as if you were running it under an optimal load I invite you to watch our power efficiencies and what they mean literally what they mean we talked about the graphs we translate every variable and how to interpret and determine how efficient your power supply is under any given load they are not extremely inefficient if you're running them at 350 Watts versus 500 Watts if you're talking about $1,000 power supply and most thousand dollar power supplies are going to be 80 plus gold or higher and the reason why is because if you have an 80 plus or something that's not even rated 80 then you're losing your basically your net loss and power is that much greater because we're talking about higher power draw overall so if you're pulling 500 watts from the wall you might only be sending 400 watts to your system well that's a pretty crappy conversion rate it's only 80% only 80% efficient but if you're talking about 90% efficient with a thousand watt power supply that's a hundred watts or so if you're assuming that you're pulling full thousand watts now but if you're in the peak efficiency range they're roughly five hundred watts let's just assume for the sake of arguments five hundred watts then what that means is if your system is drawing five hundred not then you're going to probably pull slightly more than five hundred from the wall you're what you will pull for more than five hundred from the wall no system is perfectly efficient you're gonna pull maybe you could do this mathematically but you're gonna pull slightly more than that based on that efficiency factor and again it depends whether or not you have a gold or a platinum or a titanium or silver bronze or doesn't matter it all varies but I would not say that getting a power supply's a thousand watts is a waste of money especially when they're cheaper than the lower wattage power supplies to me that's kind of kind of a dumb thing to say that's just my take on that look if you're if your scissors only gonna consume 150 watts power then please don't buy down my powers but it's not what I'm saying but you would be perfectly fine running a thousand watt power supply in a system that consumes 300 to 400 watts of power under optimal load that's all I'm saying there I do it I'm doing it right now on both of my machines and I guarantee I'm not losing much more unless they're just their efficiencies went way out of whack since I installed them it's perfectly fine not something to freak out freak out freak out about and for that price jeez that's a heck of a price for those let's see knock disc good question here what are your thoughts on the i7 9700 k I will answer that question in a dedicated video very very soon my friend just stay tuned for that I watched your video already what I meant is that the efficiency plummets a lot under 20% because it might be tenant wimps in well okay yeah Co fossa but that assumes that you're only consuming 200 watts power under load most systems are can assume well over 200 watts power I wouldn't say they'll consume well over 300 watts of power when you're gaming probably not I mean you're probably gonna be under it depends again on your hardware but I would say around 300 watts but when you're like I said under 10% yeah sure it's gonna be super inefficient and will put a lot of strain on your power supply believe it or not not advised maybe I read that at a context but that's just I just want to make sure that you guys understand I'm not recommending you put a thousand watt power supply a system that consumes a hundred watts of power that would be insane and dumb and probably unsafe anyway let's see here Jason says I missed a super chat let me see Jason I gotcha my dude I got you Jason Acevedo I saw you waiting in the chat dude you were waiting here like an hour and a half ago like you were you were a trooper I appreciate your diligence there my dude he says I have an EVGA supernova 750 be 80 plus bronze power supply powering 8700 K and a 1080 TI overclocked with an 80 plus gold power supply be worth while upgrade no you could probably work this out mathematically again I would need a piece paper and pencil because I'm not a freaking genius but the difference between 80 plus bronze and 80 plus gold let me just do a quick Google search I got a refresh my memory PSU efficiency 80 plus chart just so I can kind of set this up for you so 80 plus bronze let's assume you have a 50% load you 750 watt power supply and you're running an 8700 K and a 1080i overclocked so you're you're gonna consume around let's say 150 watts on your CPU and 250 on your 1080 TI that just just throwing this out there that's 400 watts let's say for all intensive purposes that 400 watts is half of your power supply is rated wattage it's 750 butts assume 800 so for 80 plus bronze system 80 plus bronze rating that means that a 50% you're going to be 85% efficient right so if you're drawing for if we're not drawing but if your power supply is sending 400 watts to your components and it's going to consume slightly more than that right and then if you are running on a gold system and you're at 90% you're going to consume slightly less then then that 80 plus bronze power supply from the wall and that's assuming again that it is slightly more efficient having 80 plus gold reigning rating over an 80 plus bronze the difference there would be arguably depending on how much you use your system a few bucks a year if that I mean maybe a few bucks I'm on that I might be over exaggerating that but I would say no it's not worth it in a nutshell I probably should've just said that at the beginning but if you're really wondering about science behind it all you to do is just take the 80 plus rating the efficiency at your load and then do 1 minus the efficiency over the efficiency or maybe say the way around and then you can calculate how much power your point from the raw wall for any given 80 plus rating and then you can see the difference the difference in wattage between each efficiency rating and then you can decide that way you'd probably have to run your system 24/7 for a few months before it ever became worth it from a price perspective and that again is assuming that you could even resell your old power supply and get some of your money back to cut into your margins so again yeah you could work this all out mathematically I'm just saying that from my perspective up front it's probably not worth it I wouldn't freak out about it I like your system you know how much power supply's wasn't like really loud or something anyway Sebastian keeps asking if I've used any Synology product the answer is no I have not I don't even know what that is to be frank let's see here bench potato have you ever used Amazon house recommended not first hand I have not although I know many people who have look the fact is I know the people that that have used Amazon warehouse are still using Amazon warehouse to an extent at least and so that's probably saying something what's up mister KF gaming you were looking mighty fine with those four gold stars by your name that's because he's a member I do appreciate your membership mr. KF gaming you're one of the first members ever on science to do and I will never ever forget that so thank you very much David hua should I get a Vega 64 for 399 David you should like we literally talked about this in our livestream so you should probably check the video description it's literally linked to there as well it's kind of really say the same things we just talked about I get it he's no it's okay I know stress master at science studio don't buy ultra anything they basically closed their doors and there is no warranty don't buy ultra anything I'm confused what do you mean ultra anything that's weird I think I read that out of context possibly I need you to clarify please clarify John must know what my favorite color is it's probably white I'm just kidding it's like if I had a pick a legit color or not white which is like arguably blend of every color I would say it's tough I think my favorite color is red because red is powerful it's like it's it's provoking you know you see people wear like ties like guys are pretty serious about their ties right so you see a guy wearing a blue tie he might be a nice guy see you guy wearing a red tie well he's important that's just like that's just my first thought when I see a guy in a red tie I'm like okay he's taking it seriously you know BC guy in a blue tie or a purple tie or whatever it just doesn't convey the same message to me I think it just comes down to like a psychological thing but that's why they call red like the power tie you know when you have red ties so that color just because it is so powerful from that perspective I'd have to say red and that's probably cliche because I'm sure a lot of people have red as their favorite color but maybe I'm unique in the way that I express the fact that it's my favorite let's see magic says dark purple is strong too just like your desktop behind you yeah darn yeah purple is a good color and I would say normally that purple is my favorite color but the reason why I'm not saying that is because purple is I think it depends on the shade of purple right I think a deeper purple like a more true tone like just like hard purple like if you had a picture a hard purple you would think a dark purple right I think that colors were really nice color I'd probably choose that over any red but when you think of red apart from like venturing in a like paying territory which I think that just becomes pink at that point you know you can turn from purple to violet and then it just becomes less powerful in my opinion and then when you look at red you can have royal red you can go darker with the read all those Reds are gonna look really strong in my eyes and that's probably why I think red is just overall a better pick just mine just my think in there well let's hear Josh ash what monitor like do I currently use I currently use via tech I want to say it's a 34 word Jian Jian 34c oh gosh I talked about it in a video a long time ago it was about refresh rates I want to say but it's from via Tech it's link down below I think if it's not linked down below and like the the my tech stuff section then I will do that after this livestream ends but it's a really great panel I also have an Asus PG 27 PG 27 Pete I don't remember the PG 27 something anyway it's a 27-inch 165 Hertz TN Asus panel you know with g-sync and it was one that I bought myself before I could get a lot of review samples and stuff I was just spitting out money to buy all this crap and I bought this panel for like yeah I want to say 800 bucks 700 bucks this was back when these panels first came out and I wanted a serious gaming panel because I knew how beautiful high refresh rate gaming was and so I just bit the bullet got one of these I was debating the IPS variant but ultimately I was just I was more concerned with the fluidity right and I knew TM was gonna be slightly better in that regard I wouldn't have as much of a to worry about with respect to ghosting and response time so that was why I went with TN and honestly it's a really good TN panel I say just this panel right here that I'm looking at for the stream but uh let's see Hamad asked t-inverse VA come on I have a video talking about that specifically you guys ask a lot of good questions but we have a lot of I think good videos on the channel in the minute science and crash course playlist I talk about a lot of this stuff so if you want to check that out I encourage you I think you'll learn something if you have that question you might learn something new about the technologies and how they work John Watson said same thing t-inverse VA vs. IPS literally a video on that topic let's see but Sebastian have you used the mesh router I used Google I used to Google Wi-Fi Google home whatever they call it the Google routers I had a mash network set up at my parents house and then when we moved into our old apartment Lisa and I we we ditched the mesh network thing which there's no point we don't really need a mesh because our forum it's pretty small and then we moved into this place now I have fiber and I'm just running the AC or the ACC's I'm running the AT&T router right now just because I I i was running I was running it as a pass-through to my Google Wi-Fi router but it just doesn't I mean it wasn't doing anything for him actually was kind of shit was kind of choking on the connection because we're getting a gig up gig down I think it was a little too much for it so we're just running straight up from the 18 T router and I don't have any problems at all with it and again full coverage everywhere in the apartments only like a 1200 square foot apartment so it's not very big but it gets the job done for our again small space so no need really for a super no need for a mesh someone says you missed a super chair I didn't miss a super chat Legion I was just talking I will get to it right now q in Vegas donated $1.99 do the super chat for some reason Q in Vegas decided to short me one penny and make it an even $2.00 so I'm a little bit right now I'm just joking he says help new-build gaming editing 87 okay 1080 TI 2k limit I think you could probably work out I mean you could work out the rest of the details there I don't want to I'm not gonna part through every single thing for you but 8700 K is definitely a good start I think a 1080 Ti is definitely a good investment I would choose that in my opinion feeding it when cheaper than RT x 2080 it's a better investment even though it's not the most up-to-date hardware it's gonna perform just fine in most games and if you have a 2k budget it depends on where you live I'm assuming you live in the States because that's really the only price structure I understand right now um get yourself a 700 watt power supply get yourself 16 gigs of ram like the RAM kit we have linked in the description buy that kit get yourself a Z 370 motherboard that doesn't cost more than about a hundred fifty bucks most of the overclocking benefits with the higher-end boards aren't gonna really see themselves to fruition it's just the power delivery not is really more relevant when it comes to the higher power draw CPUs as in X to 99 and arguably 9900 K territory and then one terabyte hard drive 250 or 500 gig SSD or in Batou and then a case and that's totally subjective and that's that's it that's all you need there's your system I'm not gonna tell you specifically what to buy again I none of this stuff by the way that I've showed in this video or in this livestream I wasn't paid to show any of it I'm not there's no sponsor in this video at all this is just stuff that I found scrolling through that I think is a good deal if I was in the market for any of this stuff obviously this would be the first stuff I would buy because it's such it's so compelling from a price perspective so let's see Brian Schulz 1080 or 1080i it's kind of a vague question I know you're I need another context what games what resolution what settings all they get stuff it's it's too vague as it is let's see axel so Borg I did I read that right I totally probably butchered that last name I'm sorry hey Greg I've had softube water cooling before and recently went back to air but now I want a water cool again I have a 1070 and r7 1700 is it worth going for a good hard tube water loop or not alright the worth aspect of it again is kind of subjective if you have the budget for and you're into the stuff you think it's really exciting I don't think there's a problem with if you invest in the hardware invest in the custom loop gear then you're gonna have you know you're gonna be able to recycle pretty much all your blocks unless something cracks or whatever I've had blocks recycled I've used like the same cpu blocks in like seven builds and they're all perfectly fine same with graphics here are blocks I have some graphics cards that are still on water blocks just because I haven't haven't needed to use them but if I want to use one of those cards in a custom loop it's a piece of cake so yeah it's not not really too big an issue and then yeah so if you're willing to bite the bullet up front on the price you're gonna spend an excess of $1,000 probably on water cooling gear if you want to go all out but again you can take that stuff and you can keep using it over and over so all you have to do at that point basically is by ptg tubing if you want to do hard tubing or acrylic whatever I would I would argue in favor of ptg personally and that's it so from then on out you could pretty much just you know let your imagination run wild with respect to what you want to build there so yeah now if you're debating it if you if you have a budget for it obviously you're probably that would make sense if you're debating it then yeah I'd say go for it ek alpha cool primo chill BitFenix any of those brands are really great I've worked with all of them so you know I wouldn't be worried too much with respect to who I go with just how much I want to spend and ultimately the bend you know they're the loop itself what I wanted to look like and the parts that weren't involved mr. KF gaming what's going on my dude again mr. K of gaming I want to say this again he was one of the first members ever on the channel and I do appreciate his support membership cost like five bucks you don't really get anything too exciting but you get cool little badges next to him to indicate your seniority that you're a member you can see mr. KF gaming has four stars next to his name that's meaning that means he's been a contributor on the channel for over three months over four months I want to say it's over four months which is really impressive and I do appreciate that from the bottom of my heart mr. KF gaming and again thank you for your super chat as well $5 super chat he says I've been absent from the comments and live chats lately so for my apology take my money well I'm just been taking your money already mr. K forgive me I do hope you feel like it is worth it yeah I don't do you know anything too special with the members but I do try to call them out when I see them and thank them for for just taking time to help us out financially really just go a long way I think we only have like 20 or 30 members on the channel so it's not like we're raking in dough but it just gives me an opportunity to thank personally over and over the members when I see them because it's just like it said it's not obligatory at all there's something mandatory about it it's just people who want to support us in that way it is appreciated let's see a tour for for once it's hello everyone what is going on mine dude okay okay let's see here random gamer thanks one more question any good deals on an i7 8700 K not really no I think they're selling right now for like 350 bucks slightly less than that I think new bike hasn't for like 335 or something along those lines and Amazon is comparable so I did this again Ty's partly into the inventory issues the supplies been slightly shorted Intel's been struggling this for quite a while which is why prices went up for a period of time for Intel CPUs they've come down slightly and they kind of bakit they're like a fair price but in my opinion 8700 K should be around 300 bucks slightly less than that would be a super sweet deal but this is until we're talking about I wouldn't expect anything crazy from them let's see Jedi kv any IPS freesync deals you should check out my black friday video it's the last video on the channel and you should yeah I think you'll you'll find a couple we talked about in there from pic Co a brand that I've actually grown to love recently because pic Co is I mean it's a company probably never heard of but they actually make some pretty sweet panels and I love the fact that you don't have ghosting or anything else of the sort for the most part when it comes to new pixi of panels I haven't had an issue at all with them we have a new member what's going on run B of run buff run by no I don't know how to say that run Bob diver diver that's cool alright that's a slightly awkward moment here but I appreciate it thank you very much now everyone else can see that you are remember and you'll get a cool little badge next to your name now I hope you feel special and if it anyway again that I can make you guys feel a little more special I know we have to add emotes and stuff that's kind of like how to which does their thing but if you guys have ideas for that kind of stuff that would be appreciated I can put something together if someone else wants to put some something together then that would be cool and then we could use those you guys could post cool little emotes and stuff to make yourself stand out a little more from the chat I think that'd be a cool way again to just kind of differentiate you guys from the rest of the viewers although I do appreciate everyone watching right now that some 430 or so watching very thankful for all of you especially on the Sunday night / Monday depending on where you live on planet earth stress master 500 super chat again I appreciate that stress master I saw your question earlier but I didn't understand what you're asking he says he used to be a tiger direct company oh but with sold three times and is now closed I've seen ultra products for sale on Black Friday stuff oh gosh yeah especially if you have to worry about the this was this is one of the issues with the with ncx I'm sure when NCIX went down but if you buy a product right through that company and then that said company just gets dissolved or goes bankrupt or whatever and they can't fulfill their obligations anymore as a company then the buyers of those products are kind of SOL because now you can't go back to the vendor for a refund or for an RMA or whatever if you've had a rebate coming in through that company good luck I mean good luck in general with rebates but you know what I mean and if the company is just being bought out by all these other companies and their reputations just been kind of on the edge I'm not sure with respect to ultra I haven't dealt specifically with them a long time then you probably want to shop elsewhere it's probably the safe bet just something to consider let's see yeah exactly so I says no service if the company closes and that's the risk we all take I mean like Amazon could go under tomorrow I highly doubt that but if Amazon did and we all had prime memberships and we were like in the middle of watching a super killer series on Amazon video and we'd all be screwed assuming there's servers and all that were seized and liquidated and all that stuff yeah everything in life to an extent is a risk it's just how risky do you want to be my friend let's see Baba let's see here Lisa hey Lisa what are you doing the chat she's supposed to be playing video games but she's in the chat right now that's right Sebastian everything has a risk Hamad Al Shabab best cheapest for 144 Hertz VA panel I mean you could just go on Amazon type in 144 Hertz VA and then just sort from lowest to highest that's one way you could do this and just kind of work your way down toward products to have better reviews in general you super chatted me what oh you did you super chatted me eh Lisa said why did you you just gave ourselves money uh can we get a sloshy from Sonic do you want to get a slushie from Sonic right now she wants to get to slushie from Sonic I think that's my cue I think this is her way of telling me to get off the live stream no we're having such a good time over here you guys are asking good questions as always I saw a new member queue in Vegas that's like I asked a question earlier as well queuing I do appreciate that as a member you will pretty much get badges and like that's really about it but I want you guys to feel special I'm gonna give you guys personal shout outs maybe we'll do like Members Only Live streams at some point when I have slightly more 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