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okay I think I think we're live I'm gonna wait a second now to see if I'm getting playback on screen I apologize if the mic sounds just a little weird guys let me know I can fine-tune it for some reason I can't pass through audio on my camera so I'm literally left with just running the mic your life through my wait a second I'll box here I'm getting and it's a little playback on screen my desktop I apologize that the mic sounds just a little alright sorry about that I fixed that I think I fixed it check in the chat I'm gonna pull up my chat on my phone and watch that as I'm doing this this is a little weird excuse me it's a little weird and I usually and they usually don't try to manage all this as a one-man show but okay alright I think we're good I'm pretty pretty sure we're good let's see okay so I can see my hand on screen the camera stops right about there on that side and about there on that side okay all right you guys think the audio sounds okay yeah yeah and that's not gonna be superb kind of did this last minute so now I want to talk about why we're doing this in today's live stream I was actually going to do some dedicated video but I said screw it we'll just do a live and just wing it and see how it goes so probably a catastrophe but least you get to watch it live it'll be somewhat entertaining for you so this right here I'm pretty sure you're gonna be able to see that in focus pretty high up because I turned I dropped that ball high really really shrunk the aperture so it should look pretty good but this is a gtx 1070 fe board nothing special about this other than the fact that it used to be on a on a reference card on this card here or what was in this box and I ended up having to swap the boards I stuck with the same cooler on this card but I swapped the boards because the FE board died and it died actually in the middle of painting the founders edition shroud which kind of sucked so I am going to want to try my best to swap this board back to its original blower style cooler which is this guy right here actually now that I look at it I don't even know if I have the correct back plate for the oh no I do it's just on this card okay yeah so so this is that like off-brand it's actually it came out of an old Dell but it's a you see some I think MSI calls us like the MSI Aero series but this blower style card here our blower just actually it's just a it's a cooler it is kind of recycled from manufacturer to manufacturer but this is not going to be very great for temps it's not going to be very quiet either that's why I recommend stayin away from blower style unless certain circumstances maybe you're running like as an ITX pc these are better for keeping hot air out of your small case so you would want to use something like this in that event but it would still run quite loud so this PCB again came from the founders edition card right but the the backplate whatever you want to call this this plate here came off of this car so I took this card I took its it's back plate off and swapped the founder Edition back plate with the other PCB because the back plate on this card wouldn't fit the founders Edition cooler so yeah I know it's kind of confusing but I'll probably better explain it as we get closer to it I'm gonna power it out of the way real quick when I open this up and show you guys what I'm talking about so how are we doing in the comments we're doing a write the chat all right yeah they om for Dell sometimes yes sir Chris Chris knows we was talking about Corsair Chris come on Chris and yeah so that's where this came from it was Adele it was actually out of an Aurora r7 which I reviewed excuse me in a dedicated video now you can see here on the very bottom is the partial PCB exposure right here above the little PCIe slot and that green PCB was on this cooler right so when this board died which was in the founders Edition card the this reference card here when this board died I went ahead and took the green PCB out of this card and put it in this EFI cooler right and that's why it's green I did my best I actually took I actually took sharpie and I colored all the way down the sides here any any part of the PCB that was exposed that that I could color safely because it was green pretty much all the way around it just looks terrible because there was you know black painted you know graphics card cooler and then just like a green line there so we're gonna take this card apart we're gonna take this PCB out this is hole bore ten seventy board and we're gonna put it back in the arrow blower cooler reason I'm doing that is because this was in Lisa's old build the board still works but the cooler it's just kinda I mean it only really works in a yellow themed bill this was like a baby yellow and I painted the rest of the shroud black and Lisa really liked it for her bill but now she's sporting something else so I I don't really want to try to you know use nail polish remover something to pull this paint off the other thing is I'm missing the GeForce GTX logo in here so it looks kind of stupid without that so I think what I'm gonna do is just I don't know if someone wants this and they want to pay shipping I might just ship it to you if you really want to do something weird with it you think you get the paint off and start from scratch if someone else is selling an EFI cooler like this a gtx 1070 efi cooler I'd like to buy that off of you so if you want to leave a comment in the in the video once it's archives or you can email me marketing a science to do then I would like to buy that off of you if you live in the continuous kind well how do you why do you say that in the contiguous 48 states okay so let's get to disassembly now I apologize this is not the most professional disassembly livestream I already know that going into it but I'm going to try my best let's see here try to zoom in is that right no yeah that is right how far are we in there it's not too bad and are we still in focus let me know if we're still in focus after that zoom in folks because I can't really see it on the far side of my computer desk it's kind of away from me this is the build desk here so I've got this little tool kits got a bunch of Phillips heads flat heads really convenient this is a cobalt kit it's just you know you can get these for like 10 20 bucks Walmart at other places and a micro Center sells stuff pretty similar to this you want I fix a toolkit you want to go all out you can do it with iFixit but I'm going to start by removing the you don't have to start by removing it I'm actually gonna I'm gonna save that for last cuz that's those are the four screws holding and really what is the GPU which is right here in the center so I'm actually gonna put a smaller head on there and we're gonna unscrew these tiny ones okay someone said the sound of PCBs makes me nervous spider I agree with you on that one let's see a psychic says it's InFocus okay that's cool all right Sean says love your reviews good luck with the channel I appreciate that Sean thanks for stopping by all right so we're gonna start with these oh my gosh these are super small screws I really want to strip these because if I do that means I'm gonna have to take a drill to it and I'll probably end up puncturing the PCB in the process so let's not do that I also apologize if you hear anything in the background where's my wife Lucy err with me as well as my brother currently my parents are the process of moving so I'm helping them out while they're taking care of that let's get this screw I was missing a couple actually one of these screws completely broke off I don't even know where it which one it is might be them might be the middle one I think that was broke off yeah these screws are super small so you know you know you don't want to lose these okay another small one you got to push really hard here again this is really to strip the sidewalls of these screws are very tiny make sure you use a very fine Phillips head screw for this if you've ever torn down and founders cooler you probably know the pain I know that the new r-tx car is the new Founders cards are even more difficult to take apart especially the 2060 well they can glue and stuff they're using in there okay that one's good so the way this bit does backplate works it's kind of a two-piece backplate so see you just kind of piece by piece here so you want to install this side of the backplate closest to the rear i/o plate first because there's a small little lip here if you can see that but there's a small lip and you want this sitting underneath the back portion of the back plate so this side goes in first that's why I took this side off first and we're just gonna set this to the side for now again if someone wants this you know just send me an email or something leave a comment I'll read all the comments after this live stream archives and let's see these small screws again these are just the small screws that are holding in the back blade and we'll get to those remaining three larger Phillips screws afterward they're gonna be the final four that hold in the cooler they're actually the only well they're not technically the only things that secure the cooler to the card but they are the ones that probably provide the most tension around the GPU it's important that you keep that thing pressed as firmly as possible against the the GPU die you want to have proper contact good for heat transfer no air pockets or anything of the sort I am NOT gonna remember where I put these screws we got one more small one get in there yeah okay so that's all the small screws how are we doing over there folks checking out the chat right now you guys look like you're doing okay I have one more screw totally forget about this one way over here if I do anything that freaks you out someone says I need a gamer's Nexus mod mat I actually have one problem is it doesn't fit this table perfectly this tables a little small that mod mat is huge and I used it quite a bit at my old apartment and that was because I had me I know self-made desks and I'd actually fit perfect it's like a 24 to 2 foot by 4 foot mod man I believe and it was good for for that table that this table is I don't think it's wide enough it's not a perfect 2 by 4 rectangle so that's why I'm not using one I actually well yeah I just bought this table too so actually I'm kind of concerned about that maybe we'll get a piece of cardboard or something and put that over here otherwise whatever there's like a hundred bucks for this table I'll just use it till a false part okay we have ah see this is what sucks about founders cards most AI bees won't do this but we've got the four large screws right surrounding with GPU itself and we've got these stupid freaking nuts that well they're not even nut they're technically screws but they have there they're hex heads and they literally surround the entire card so you have to screw these tiny little Phillips screws into the tops of these heads so it's kind of like a screw in a screw and of course only Nvidia would do that I am going to need see we got one removed right here this wasn't even tightened down Wow I don't think the camera is gonna pick this up but I just want to show you the top of it see it's got a it's a hexagonal shaped head but it has a thread inside of it and that's where the small screws that we just removed right into so kind of stupid if you ask me actually most of these are just hand tightened Wow that's pretty crazy someone said that's nuts I'm just gonna yeah I'm gonna nonchalantly remove these hand tighten nuts I know I did this I did I'm pretty sure I had to remove this cooler like three or four times during the swaps I kept forgetting to well at one point I forgot to even wire the blower fan to the PCB I was like oh my god I gotta take this whole thing apart again so I think after like the third or fourth time I'll just like screw it I'm just gonna hand tighten these things because really the most important part of this you want to make sure that you're getting contact with those thermal pads around the vo RM the MOSFETs the RAM and also around the the GPU and that's you know these four take care of that so yeah I definitely kind of Jimmy rigged it but okay I guess says you should do back massage ASMR not homo I I guess I'll take that as a compliment that's probably the microphone to be honest you are in a peaceful place I'm just kidding I'm not going to do that there are so many these stupid screws all over the board we haven't even gotten this thing off yet you see why I was wanting to make a dedicated video on this because it is a process anything that takes me along about an hour to do I'll film just because no no I think people enjoy watching other people work and when it's tech involved I mean come on who doesn't like that alright we have like two more am I gonna be old up oh yeah I think I'm gonna be able to Handler Sinise alright Chris says he's done that I forgot to plug the fan back when he removed a water block from a 1080 TI I think we've all been there at least once Oh am I gonna be able get this off come on it's just like the one thing that you don't think about you know you're you're worried about all the missing screws and making sure all those holes are occupied and and you know thermal pads and making sure everything's aligning correctly you're just not thinking about that stupid wire and if there's more than one wire then you probably won't even have our jeebies running if it's a LED card all right I have one more this piece right here you guys that looking ok on camera mm I can kind of see it I'll move it right there in the center we're gonna keep going this is an ugly ugly green PCB all right so all these hex screws are removed how not only the official name for its a hex screw but there are screws nonetheless and now we're just gonna tackle these remaining three larger ones that surround the GPU I'll clean up the dye and we'll swap this board back to the Aero cooler which is in my opinion significantly uglier actually louder as well you know I think these founders cards get a bad rap they used to be a lot worse but now they've gotten I would say except ibly quiet there not gonna be as quiet as some aiv cards and cooler sure but yeah for what it is a founders edition card is really not that not that bad okay so we've removed pretty much everything securing the board to the cooler now we're just gonna pull it up let's see how this goes oh and we got I remember we have a cable connected between the two so we can't just straight up rip this off am I forgetting uh yeah if I break this whole board at least it'll be live oh why is it not coming off sometimes you got to pull these you got a prime because the thermal paste kind of sticks but we don't have anything on that side holding it in anymore so why is it not coming off am I missing something no screw it's gonna yank out there we go oh that board is flexing more than I would like oh wait am I forgetting one are you kidding me alright so there's a Phillips screw like right there in the middle one of these is holding yeah I think that one is holding the cooler to the backplate which is it's whatever you know they're like I'm just not thinking about that being one of the things holding in it makes sense though give me a second nose is kind of off camera I'm just gonna take care of this screw and see it's uh that one right there we're moving that now and Shellback got it she'll back called it out could you have Shellback and it's actually is this the other one that's not-- it was just that one and oh no it was it was this there's two there's two it's this other one right here next to it you guys see that one right there that one is also holding the cooler yeah yeah there we go here we go yeah no that's tougher here in my experience a lot of the IVs don't even secure the cooler to the backplate but it probably does provide some rigidity so there's that okay so we've got the PCB exposed I'm going to attach the fan cable from the PCB somehow know how I'm gonna do that and see I'll just flip it over and pull it apart that way sure we got my tweezers that have been really helpful right now why is this not coming off runner yank it there we go okay no no parts were harmed during the making of his livestream and yeah so there's our cooler you can see some nasty thermal is he was like it doesn't look like a thermal paste spread very well but whatever I mean the temps were okay and now with that removed we're gonna clean up we have to die and then we'll get to fixing this back to the og blower so I've got toilet paper courtesy of Walmart cleaning the bad boy up no isopropyl alcohol here I actually just ran out so we're gonna do this the old-fashioned way I'm breaking so many rules right now and live at that it's even worse get immediate public feedback we could clean up the edge a little bit but it's really not gonna not gonna hurt to leave a lot of that there I'll just scrape it in and go get as much as we can without this toilet paper fraying I'd like to have is a little this little toilet paper is possible on the GPU you know I'm saying also Jesus look at the state of these thermal pads like well yeah they're okay it's alright yeah so see I'll flip it this way for you we're gonna recycle the thermal pads on this I actually had a water block that guy I have another 1070 that's on a block from Thermaltake it's this one right here and I was prepared to completely rip this apart and actually no this is a 1080 yeah this is a 1080 I just don't have another cooler for the 1080 so it's kind of just chillin really that's what I should do I should take this out and put it on the on the arrow card but whatever well we'll save that for another day but I was gonna take the thermal pads from knives I don't have any extra thermal pads laying around but someone says why doesn't he just clean it with soap and water I couldn't I gotta clean up the soap and water it's just not good practice you know one more time or pass through it'll be all right okay yeah good enough I don't expect this to be a perfect solution Shane says why should people complain about you using toilet paper you're literally wiping crab off the bottom that's exactly right Tom says put the GPU in the dishwasher yeah I'm not gonna wait for a full cycle rinse I just think that's a little over Oh let's stick with toilet paper no yeah yeah doing that live - I think they'd be even worse oh gosh let's go ahead and I mean yeah you know there aren't even another are I have to take these thermal pads which do not look like they're in good shape I'm gonna recycle these as well whoo this is gonna be cringy but we got to do it so let's try to match up the coolers we also have to change the backplate out remember that so actually what this cooler still has this thermal pad there so we can keep that there but some of these other like I think these are around chokes and the MOSFETs we're gonna go ahead and pull these off you can't even see that there we go now go ahead and pull these off and just kind of mirror it yeah I can just put it on the board well just put it on the board you guys can see where I'm putting them I want to say there we go oh we're missing that last one now no really shouldn't be touching this stuff with my hands either oils aren't good but whatever yeah Spyder says replace all thermal pads I don't have any thermal pads I just said that so I'm just winging it I'm winging it laughs folks you're gonna probably cringe just a bit but it's okay um I don't know where these pads went I'm gonna cover as much as possible we just want something there yeah it's good god these look ugly you need some ugly thermal pads ah see what else do we have up there I think that one just straight-up ripped just place it casually right there yeah it looks like that's where it is and right there yeah you could you could not fall that'd be cool chill chill all right there we go okay yep everything's looking alright ish I guess and all right go ahead and rip it last I'm gonna do gotta remove this back pleat so the one that fits in the aerocart is not the same as the one that fits it's not shaped the same so we're gonna have to remove this and swap it with the one that's on the dead board just you know full-on parts swap here by the way if you guys have an idea of where I should send my gtx 1070 fe dead board I don't know what about it is dead I'm not too sure it's possible that maybe something was stripped back when I was swapping this the three or four times that I did it I mean I know you're not gonna see much here but the the front and back looked fine I've literally scanned almost every single little component on this board front back and I can't find anything that looks dead unless its internal maybe it's in the the PCB it's a four six layer PCB I'm not sure what how many layers this is probably more than that and then maybe something like it could be a just a bad cap or whatever we can't actually see from the top but I'm going to keep removing this here and what does remiss in do you have to remove these two additional screws hex heads that secure the DVI port ah cam says he's never seen a component that he didn't want to fix all right I like that mentality there's the backplate whatever you really want to call this rear i/o plate and check out how naked our board looks now does that look stupid or what oh gosh so yeah let's go ahead and put this on the well we don't need to put this on the old board because the old board is already dead so we'll just take the old boards rear i/o plate this is the one that's compatible with arrow card pretty much secure the same way three Phillips screws and then two hex screws feels like a lineup that Linus text tips video with a do as I say not as I do think yeah I mean like look I don't like this is not like the proper obviously ideal conditions would be like if you had brand new thermal compound and you cleaned everything up the isopropyl alcohol I made it look very shiny and then you didn't recycle thermal pads I really don't care I mean this blower card is like the blower itself is probably going be the thing that restricts this card more than anything else Oh am I gonna be a hand tighten this or Hanley's in these I don't think so I got to get a tool I'll be right back I've got one in the closet here okay got a pair of surgical tweezers now I know this is like totally unconventional but I'm telling you these things work wonders all right they get you into those fine places you can lock them in with the teeth up top you got a death grip folks that's what you want sometimes I know this is not this is not technically the way you're supposed to do this but all I need is that first little bit to give there we go and then I can hand you some the rest of it there we go so them both these come off a back plate or just fall I should probably move the piece to be underneath it I think that'd be a smart smart choice wow that's a lot bigger I just hold it over here last one yeah John I just said that I already have a mod Matt doesn't fit on the desk I said that like ten minutes ago okay so there's the second Ryo back plate good to go I am yeah this is the board that's dead again can't find too much physically I mean physically it looks okay so there's something either internal in the PCB and one of the layers or just something in one of the chips one of the caps or something along those lines it's dead so I may be another video or maybe I'll just send that off to somebody to have it fixed so this is the the arrows back plate we're gonna align it up so you guys can see it it's gonna fit no wrong way it's all right gonna fit basically just like that yeah and go ahead and use the screws from the kid we just released start with a DVI port it seems like the most secure wow this is difficult to do I have to do this straight up let's try it like that probably be out of shot let me see we're moving further into the camera no it's way far away from me rip that one okay yeah I'm not sure if Brian has the soldering equipment necessary to fix some small component on these parts believe me if I had if I had the equipment I try to do it myself I just don't have the equipment and frankly if I bought the equipment to do it fine soldering kids I just wouldn't I wouldn't use it but maybe a couple times so gonna get that back on there okay off to a good start and rest of these just three of these holding in the other ports actually these are over the display ports so there's one then we'll do two and three Mike I just said literally two minutes ago I don't have I have a gamer's nexus mod Matt it doesn't fit the table and because of that I put it up it's actually in the garage right now I fit my old table but I didn't bring that with me to the new apartment when we moved so there you go it's okay wood is not conducted it's just gonna be a little louder not worried about this - yeah we're getting scratched up it's a cheap table I bought on Amazon okay so that is that's it that's that rear i/o plate nice and sturdy now and yeah so let's go ahead and apply the thermal compound might clean up that dead GPO just a little bit more okay I'm just gonna scrub it with toilet paper yeah looking good okay enough and lone wolf lone Wolf's stuck says here's $2 find a use for it I suppose alright I appreciate that Thank You mr. lone wolf assuming you're a dude lone wolf stuck I am hopefully not gonna be stuck with this installation process I think I have all the screws for this cooler we're gonna find out very shortly so this is a cooler again wow it is it's like a smear from thermal compound I don't know what that is yeah this is cooler it's just nasty just old and oh okay so I'm gonna use thermal grizzly cryin hot stuff it's right here when we work with working actually very closely with thermal grizzly here soon so stay tuned for that we're gonna test out a very new product of theirs in a dedicated video I'm going to apply let's see you guys might we have to cover the entire die with that with this stuff so I imagine it's gonna spread fairly well I could manually spread it I'm not sure if I'd want to even bother oh well wolf says his last name is stuck your last name is literally stuck I mean they just roll with it man he's gotta own it that's at that point unless you just want a full-out change last name you just gotta roll with it we're just gonna stick with that I've done this so many times and that's gonna be enough now I'm gonna flatten the board it would help in this case to put the cooler on something so that the rear i/o plate can kind of hang there oh I did not yeah rip I didn't connect the power cable for the fan I almost forgot I almost forgot yeah I looking all right looking all right not really supposed to lift the PCB back up when you've already put thermal compound down but it didn't really spread very much if we had already tightened it yeah maybe I'd want to redo that again this is just for my own testing here I'll run the temp test and all that stuff after this we'll see and we'll see how it feels about there is no back plate with this card so it is literally just actually these aren't even the correct screws I'm using these screws from the F equal or it's whatever screw number two okay at this point I couldn't put it well I still can't cuz that rear i/o plate hangs a little too low and do that number two we have three a psychic I just addressed that literally like right before you type that in the chat maybe you just uh maybe you just saw it I'm not sure how late the livestream goes and fourth one I always start with this first and really you want to cross thread these you can tighten them a little more on X pattern so you make sure that there will paste spread Z somewhat evenly but in my experience doing this I mean it it's there's so much torque in these four screws it spreads fairly well no matter what okay go ahead and put the card down and now we have a ton of these small screws to take care of again but good thing is not to worry about the stupid hex screws like we had seen before hopefully I have all the screws here as well I'm actually not sure if I have all of this now let's see let's let's see how I guess I got one one okay I have I have a fairy he I have a sneaking suspicion I'm not gonna have all the screws actually a couple of them fell in a closet when I was picking the cooler but I ain't really that put all the screws in the cooler he's probably one or two hanging out in there we'll just go find those after the fact I've been viciously crossed yeah I know oh gosh everyone's a stickler for everything that I said yeah cross threading obviously not yeah I meant your wink you know you guys know what I mean yeah this one on this corner should be a fairly large Phillips screw up here as well I don't know if it's one of these we'll see I know this green sis yeah this is a ugly old green PCV I was one of the reasons why I made a dedicated video on ours was I come on like if you're willing to cheap out just the tiniest bit for the green substrate over it's not even really the PCP that screen it's actually a coating the screen over these any any color you see over the actual silicon the PCB is just no semiconductor now we're gonna have all the screw on we might actually have all the screws that'll be that'll be something folks yeah that thing is fugly she's fugly all right she's that awkward middle child keeping it down I don't think we're gonna have the four screws that lock this in that for sure I don't think we have but I don't I don't actually think maybe I'm wrong but I don't think there were screws in the back of this cooler when I first pulled it out of the Dell desktop I'm pretty sure and I say that not only because I feel like I didn't it'd be weird to lose just those but I'm also saying that because these four screws here kind of doing the same job these four words this is just for more tension on that area I don't think we yeah I don't think we need to worry about that and then one more actually about two more am i missing another hole somewhere oh no I just see maybe heck maybe I did lose these that means I lost three of them where the heck did three of those go oh there is one more over here hmm all right I was all of them interesting is this even gonna thread over here oh that actually works okay all right it's kind of poke and hope with this and we're gonna be too short I don't think I have I yeah I really don't think I have the other two I don't think I have other than the other two and even like another box yeah exactly like Chris says you really don't need them because you already have the four big ones doing most of the work I'll just keep them in there just the two that we have and the other two can just I don't know if you just here's all you have to do with this card it still doesn't look pretty from this side right I mean it's yeah like fake helo carbon-fiber stickers and plastic like okay but it's still not a super appealing card in my opinion but it looks significantly better if you placed it in a vertical brackets where only this side is facing the left panel versus if you have it plugged in like this you know plug straight into the motherboard you're gonna see that PCB and that's when people you know look this could be a 1080 or a 1070 either cooler works the efi boards are basically the same so you could you could just pop a 1080 in here and turn it vertical with a vertical bracket and from cable mod coolermaster whoever and then just let this thing look semi pretty you know it's gonna look a lot better than that bare green PCB showing on the back so I definitely recommend a verdict bragging for this card but you know apart from that and maybe the fact that it's gonna run a little loud a little hot this isn't too bad I think this bike here if I recall Korea it's been like a year since I tested this car in a video I think this card hit about a TC under load maybe a little higher but the way NVIDIA is throttling works they get kind of throttles itself throughout the entire frequency range and at temperatures above 70 degrees Celsius I'm not sure exactly what it is but as these cards get hotter and video kind of a you know it compensates by adjusting this the memory frequency or the the GP frequency directly and so they they will typically run around eighty degrees these blower style cards still a bit still so yeah I would say this thing's good to go I'm not sure is that like painters that I was a piece of paper or something also what the heck is this piece of thermal pad whatever rip rip that will be sure to run temperature tests with this thing just to make sure I got to do my due diligence especially if I plan on using this in the future build I'd say it's pretty good I mean this side anyway again a vertical brag gonna do the job so that's about it folks just want to show you guys what I what I do this is again this is just stuff that I'm gonna be using in house so I'm not really worried about it you know standing the test of time which is why I didn't bother buying new thermal pads or anything like that i thermal pads would be nice and that would certainly keep temps down and around the the VRMs and the memory but you know we have new thermal compound on the GPU and I think that's gonna keep GP temps in check at least somewhat the blower stock card is gonna be our weak link for sure but yeah so what do you guys think and I even staring at a desk this entire time but this was kind of fun you know and look I could have made a dedicated video of this instead I decided a livestream it so you get to see all the get to see the whole thought process right play out I've been kind of talking this whole time so you don't get bored of just watching me screw stuff in but yeah so I think this will stand the test of time like I said at least for the time gonna be using it and maybe not four or five years from now but you could always swap thermal compound put new pads on this thing should be good to go again and the PCB is really the only thing that's keeping me from just outright wanting to throw this in $1,000 you know PC or something like that let's see if I can find these online because these aren't technically you can't really buy these I mean you could buy a card similar to this but I know MSI is uses a darker PCB similar to the FE card like this and they also have MSI logo and they they here they're not using as cheap a plastic like this is like really cheap plastic here and the MSI card didn't give me that didn't give me that vibe so who knows well we'll have to see my phone just turned off but I'm going to take the time now to answer some questions if you guys have any I know you're just staring at a desk I guess I could kind of turn it toward me the camera if you are really into seeing me but and try my best here to point the camera up see how messy it is I need to activate Windows there like that good I think we looking there a little closer this is such a weird angle I'm gonna be looking up the entire I don't know if you heard what I said I my computer I gotta activate Windows on it I put the I put two drives in raid 0 and I've been they've been doing alright I mean since since I did it which was like four months ago I want to say it's been doing fairly well so I mean it's really fast every now and then I get some weird corruption error especially with Steam games but I'm not sure if that's just Steam related or if it does have something to do with the drives themselves the raid or Windows 10 just not know communicating properly with a read we will see excuse me okay so heater answer your questions folks whatever you got I have literally the chat pulled up right here my phone and I'm just staring at it so if you guys have questions if I know the answer I'll try to answer as best incoherently as I can in a short amount of time and if I don't know the answer then maybe I'll make a video when I hear something like that I often do some research and get back to you guys and honestly any idea this point is good for a video let's see here but lone wolf wants to know if I played war thunder before the answers and no I never even heard of that game before or another thing a lot of games that sound alike so maybe I've heard of it or maybe even I played it I played a lot of games just a benchmark and tests with but I don't recall that one let's see Tom Brown what a gtx 1070 TI be a good upgrade for from an RX 570 sure would it depends on what you get it for I wouldn't pay any more for a 1070 TI I definitely wouldn't pay more than if you're buying used about 280 to 300 bucks I don't know I don't know about the use markets change recently it used to be you could get 10 70s for like a like well not a hundreds of them about 200 bucks 200 to 240 dollars with a sweet spot for the 10 70s and the 1080 we're going for about 300 to 350 bucks I know that because I bought several those cards when they were that price but it might have changed the 1070 though 1070 I will be a very nice upgrade from a 517 but but but uh Wes Wes says no no no no turn the camera back alright here's the solution I get to do all I got to do just look away from the screen you can just hear my beautiful voice there's there's the fix okay we have Adrian Lopez is it possible to replace a sensor my old mouse my final mouse Urgo is died and I can't find a replacement at reasonable price yeah I don't know if they sell those things separately it really dependent if it was like a port like I don't know if they sell sensors I've never looked for a sensor to replace it in a mouse and it would have to be the exact same sensor I assume and I'm not sure if those things are just like plug and play with the boards so it's really in a dependent how much working on doing how much time you want to spend looking for that because if it's if they sell them out right then yeah quick swap but I'm just not sure if they do let's see but the hack daemon do they make water box a twenty seven ta suits dual I don't know about that blog in particular I mean you can have to type it in on Google that's really the best answer half for yeah I don't know about that particular card usually the more beefy cards get the the waterblock action so if it's not a very beefy 2017 probably not but maybe not the dual I know the Strix does 20 70 Strix I'm pretty sure does but I'm not sure about the the Asus dual let's see here really have here another one from tom water cooling your air cooling depends on the application air cooling is just easier but water cooling I mean AIO is for the most part they're gonna last you I would say several years safely if you have anything go wrong with a banana it's gonna be a dead pump and you'll know it's a dead pump your temperatures will spike and you'll have no idea why and your yeah yo fans will still turn you like why the heck is that doing that out with a CPU fan I mean the air cooler sorry a CPU air cooler it's just yeah if the fans turning the CPU cool is working right so so they're less failure points and in some situations air coolers can be even quieter than liquid cooled counterparts I'm just depends I think in general I think a I always look better so if it's an aesthetic thing to and you're not really as concerned about budget then I would say water cooling is the way to go but there are a lot of really good air coolers out there for under fifty bucks you know so it just depends but big or bouzouki there's a last name ray tracing on Pascal what performance to expect and the answer to that is I have no earthly idea I just know that when I when you when you think about how intensive that is to begin with just enabling something like DXR or even DL SS it wealthy LSS to an extent helps but it can sometimes drop the indie game quality right because it's an AI oh it's it's an AI that's a learning over time so theoretically the the picture in game should look better a year from now than it does right now right that's the benefit of the LSS so it's kind of sudden you have to buy into long-term with the XR turning on or H racing in games it's just I mean there's a reason why Nvidia packed RT in tensor cores in tutoring cards and the fact that Pascal cards don't have that I'm very skeptical as to whether or not that performance will even be somewhat satisfactory seeing as though the 20 DTI still takes an absolute pounding when d XR is enabled in most of the games that support it which today is only like a handful of games and I think that even isn't over damn it but uh let's see here 11 1 2 3 what's the max temp my Strix 1080 T I should get a Strix 10 82 TI oh I haven't tested ass tricks today GT I can tell you my 1080 T eyes don't get butt to around low to mid 70s shouldn't get much higher than that you can overclock a bit no but you'll probably hit your power limit pretty fast I'm well I know you're hitting power them at some Turing cards but I'm not sure if you did it on a strict 1080 but usually what you can do is just max everything on an MSI Afterburner just kind of let the card handle itself you know just increase the power limit voltage limit if you really want to get fancy and all that good stuff you can you can even fine-tune the frequency to maybe it's been a while since I've even overclocked graphics cards let's just say you're out of the box max boost is like 2,000 megahertz you might be able to get 2,100 maybe 2200 if you got a really good sample but of course that scales from card to card so it might differ for a different version of a card different PCB could just be a you know totally different family of graphics card so they'll all have different stable frequencies and you kind of gotta fill it out let's see here uh hey it's pretty good green PCB YUM yeah we just finished doing that oh god I probably just broke it with my ring be careful with that one of the reasons why I like back plates it's not so much the aesthetics anymore it used to be just purely aesthetic but there is actually a functional purpose so yeah let's see ya Hayden says just got here did he just finish and the answer to that is yes so just finished the camera was pointing at the desk for about 45 minutes or so but the tech Crimson says the camera angle is definitely interesting yeah that's because I just turned the camera facing us if you just join the livestream then yeah you're probably like what the heck is he doing with the camera way up there but it's better than you guys having a way for me to move the tripod awkwardly and fix the like Heights and all that good stuff I've scrolling down a little bit more here ooh West West 0 when do you think in da storage will be wait when do you think DNA storage will be in scuse me and could it be in common being being I went Bing and builds oh no wait time I west but I've never heard of that but but TechCrunch says guess this means you need to make an updated video on how to overclock a graphics card I mean it's the exact same process so I haven't done an updated version of it because it's literally this I recommend using MSI Afterburner it's extremely simple to do and you kind of got to play with the tolerances again it's just like with a CPU you know every cards gonna overclock just slightly different hmm Tom Brown when you think of epic games I really I don't get much into the games thing I just I play pub G a lot I play City skylines a lot Call of Duty GTA 5 it's really about it it takes a lot for me to swap from game to game because it's a commitment you know when you commit to one game for me that's a serious thing and you just got to stick with it for a long time kind of perfected as much as you can and then once you get bored of that then you can move on to something else I'm still not bored yet of pub G even though they came it's just a hecka unoptimized still it's a lot better than it was but it still got problems I'll play Call of Duty just a wreck some kids you know short little 30-minute session here about Texas guys guys the only plays puffy it's true I really only do that's really true yeah okay Alex write 3000 series risin + r9 290x custom water a IO or new GPU yeah dude if you're gonna write if you're an upgrade to rising 3000 I would definitely drop that r9 290x you just you're with a hawai'i architecture or Tahiti is a Hawaii or Tahiti I think it's Hawaii no maybe it's to remember one of the two I know it's wanted to anyway yeah that's an old architecture 99 TX is around the hot so you're okay with card running really hot in your system that's fine but it really could go a long way if you upgraded to hack I mean even like Vega 56 like you can get a Vega 56 card now for like three hundred bucks and yeah like three aims with it that's a really good value so if you're not buying a little r-tx thing you're not an Nvidia fan or whatever and I think Vega 56 is a very compelling offer right now you can even find some used cards for I would say less than that so if you're diligent you'll find good deals yeah 290x is Hawaii all right thank you Chris I appreciate that the strength power performance okay what happened to the mini PC so I ended up tearing it all apart like I like I said only reason why is because I I just I don't know I think I'm gonna end up swapping the cooler anyway the CPU cooler knocked was gonna send one of their super low profile cooler so to be even quieter for for Lisa's mom and then I'm waiting on an tech to reply about that Pete that power supply board so it was definitely the board that power was reaching the board we confirmed that in the video it just wasn't getting through the board to the did it wall to the outlet to the poor that split it between the 24 pin 8 pin and then the SATA and molex so an unfortunate ending there but at least we got the troubleshoot a little bit but the but let's see here I am going to hey says Megan 56 is still $400 in the u.s. it was not very recently and it will come down again I promise you vega 56 we just ran an ad for vega 56 for the red dragon from power color you could get that thing for like 330 bucks and you got three good game like they were good games think it was Division two Devil May Cry 5 and Resident Evil 2 good games all three of those with like $150 value plus the graphics card for 329 so definitely not just $400 it comes down quite a bit let's see here lone wolf says how's school going I graduated I graduated my engineering degree like two years ago and then I graduated with my MBA I was it six months ago I'm like that trying to read my diploma and see if I might have pull my degree and see if it has it on there there is no date I know it is okay 14th day of December 2018 yeah so that was three or four months ago so yes school is good topher tech good question Greg what's in your rig the answer to that is well and my personal rig has a r-tx 27 t in it and I $9.99 hundred K 32 gigs of tritons e ddr4 so that's what I'm rocking and I'm looking at what else I have in the system I have a courser H 150 I Pro it's an NZXT h h 700 i and a alright and eb g a p2 1001 there we go okay i took me while i was trying to remember trying to remember all the stuff in the rig I have this rig over here too and this is actually the one I'm streaming from so right now I'm streaming with an i5 8600 k 16 gigs of course there Dom plots and an RT x26 TFE and the RT x 2060 right now is actually doing all the encoding for this video so OBS recently added the improved Nvidia encoder tools and then also stream labs OBS just added I use stream labs mostly because I can do like the ticker and stuff I don't have it for this video because it's a different computer I have to set it all up again but the 26 he's doing very well right now with that and I have to check GPU usage to see exactly what's what but I know my CPU right now I see that CPU usage is 4% and I'm streaming it a bit rate of 10,000 megabits per second so she's doing alright right now but I probably do a separate video on that to talking about actually at 20 70 20 to be a lot better for this though 26 he's doing just fine so I'll probably do a video on that talking about the different scaling just the usage overall comparing the XT x264 software and coding to the hardware and coding on the Nvidia card and we'll just see but see you a couple more questions folks anything else anything juicy you'll want to ask me before I leave it's 10 o'clock over here 10 p.m. Central Standard Time look in the chat look in the chat hey says power color Vega feed 6 on new egg and Amazon are nowhere near 3:30 yeah that's because they were for 3:30 like a month ago so you can tell me they're not now that's fine I'm not arguing that they're that they are now they were just on sale very recently I know that's because I literally ran ads for them and it was a really good deal for 330 you're basically getting the graphics card for like 250 bucks it was really good and I like I said it will come down again so if you want a card right now don't buy bag of 56 obviously but if you want to wait a little bit I'm sure Vega 56 will come down significantly in price again like it did before and I'm sure someone will hit me up to run a pre-roll or two on it as well just to draw traffic but Tom Brown you wanted the roast of Linus I don't know is that a delta X if it's a if it's a delta X I'll be there so that'll be fun I don't know else it would be let's see yeah someone says do you really need to change thermal paste or sorry thermal pads if you open your GP for paste replacement not really I mean you really don't need to it's just good practice to once they get dirty and your oils from your hands get on them and stuff it can inhibit heat transfer but ultimately the thermal paste is what's really gonna make or break you just want to make sure that that there are thermal pads in place obviously for this solution like these thermal pads are really ugly so I would have I would have swapped those in an ideal situation I don't have any on hand and this is a card I'm gonna be using for my own purposes so it's it's I'm not worried about it we have a new member by the way we have Roger Walsh Wahlstrom oh if I said that correctly I hope I did welcome to the member community wall Roger I hope you feel at home here also if you want to leave a comment in the chat box we can oh there it is I see it right there hi there from Sweden he's got that beautiful gold star next to his name if you become a member you get a sweet little gold star an extra name and that star increases so good from one star to two stars three four up to five stars depending on how long you were a member on the channel so I appreciate that Thank You Roger and greetings from in the US of A Stream wants to know how old I am I am thorough I am 24 I almost at 34 Jesus not that old I am 24 and I will turn 25 in October end of October all right javi the Andrus is have you seen in videos April Fool's video I have not that Suns are really good I'm definitely gonna have to check that out if it's from Nvidia it's gonna be juicy what's the best $50 graphics card eh I have to do my research I can't answer that and it really depends on the market as well if you could only afford one quality peripheral for gaming so I'm assuming you're like you're saying if I could only get one really good peripheral and the rest of the peripherals have to kind of suck which would it be a mouse and then okay a keyboard or a better keyboard okay Mouse okay so I have used membrane keyboards a lot in the past pretty much growing up like even my own personal pcs use membrane keyboards which is site I had to buy everything on the pocket I was really on tight budgets back then so I only use membrane keyboards granted I use cheap mice too but I think the mouse matters a little more for the games that I play and I just prefer more comfortable smooth mice with better sensors in them and more accurate and more responsive so I would say in general I'd pick a better Mouse and go with the just a trashy keyboard if I had just just for my personal application I think it would fit let's see here gee rut says I am so late to the stream oh yes sir a good thing is gonna be archived if you wanna go back and watch any of it I mean we just would just basically swapped we swap our sorbitol most in power supplies we just swapped the PCB from the founders Edition card this was actually where the PC was originally it was originally on this blower card but my Fe Board died but I wanted to use the FE cooler so I took this green PCB from this 1070 and put it on the FE card or the FE cooler so we were swapping that back in this video just because the FE cooler was painted and it's a little messy and yeah so all righty folks you guys have been awesome we're gonna sign out here if you are interested in checking out some of our most recent content I encourage you to do that I mean look it's not gonna cost you anything unless you have YouTube premium I guess I've cost you well you might as well get your money's worth a baby to premium watch as many videos as you can but I'd appreciate it if you'd check out a video or two on the channel we're gonna come with some really cool content here soon I have a very special CP from Intel that I will be doing a dedicated video on also two graphics cards that were sent from gigabyte we'll be doing reviews on and then also a balanced PC build I think it's important that we stress in the balanced aspect of this build coming up because it's very easy for me just to throw a bunch of expensive gear in to Rick and say oh check out this ultimate gaming PC $2,000 $3,000 whatever we're gonna do a balanced $1,000 budget build and I think that budget is a sweet spot for a lot of people because it's a compromise between spending outrageous sums of cash for marginally better performance in most cases and spending two or three hundred dollars for really crappy performance right so a thousand bucks I think is a really good sweet spot you can get a lot of performance for a thousand bucks of a gaming system and we're gonna talk about those pros in in the video coming up so who knows we might even use one of the graphics cards we were sent one of the either the 1660 of it or the ti in that build as well I haven't fully decided yet my play around a PC part picker and see what we can do so we will uh yeah we'll be ready to go and those videos stay tuned for that again check out some more older content I appreciate you guys watching I'm gonna have to pivot over here to end the livestream so it's gonna be a little awkward but again thank you for taking time out of your Sunday night and/or Monday morning slash afternoon to be here this is science video thanks for watching thanks for swapping PCBs with this I'll catch you in the next one and here's the awkward slide