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LIVE Q&A | Ask Me Anything! - Science Studio After Hours #27

2018-10-14
okay we're gonna see how this goes I am watching myself right now on my laptop and this is kind of like a makeshift thing I'm experimenting you guys are my guinea pigs so right now I'm running a 1080p stream at a 30,000 kilobit per second bitrate which I can hear myself which is much higher than it should be I wanted to make sure that that I could hear myself decently in the laptop so if anybody says that I'm a little too quiet I can adjust because I can actually hear myself now I know that this isn't the typical format obviously I'm in the new studio now and that is something that has been going for the past a week or two so if you've been wondering why content is slowed down that is a big part of it also the hurricane down here slowed a lot of things up especially for my family my parents so we've been helping them at their house they're actually over here right now so here's some weird stuff in the background that's probably them because their house is basically unlivable so trying to a get all s squared away and again will also slow down content now if I'm a little too quiet let me know again if I need to adjust the audio I'm running the same setup that I typically run when I film a you know a regular video that I'll edit in post for the channel so if you need any you know if you need to throw something at me let me know that I am too quiet or the cameras going out of focus or something Crazy's goin on please let me know because all I can really see it myself with that 20 or 30 second delay so we'll see and also if you like the way things look if you think it looks pretty that's because I'm using the camera that I always used to film with my primary camera that's the sony a7s - i have that wired directly into an avro media capture card excuse me I could totally run 4k off this thing if I wanted but my capture card doesn't support 4k and I'm too cheap to buy an elgato 4k 60 capture card so maybe how I'll invest in one at some point but I imagine that most people aren't going to be able to handle a 4k 60fps stream this camera doesn't even support 4k 60 it's only 4k 30 so it would be upsampled to 4k 60 also realized that part of part of the donation window is how to sink in one sec let's see if we can fix that good editor that's weird it's showing that it's in picture no no I'll leave it like that for now at least on on my window it's showing that it's slightly off camera I'm also watching again I'm watching the stream live so I'm gonna have to see how all that works out thank you for the for the mentions yeah I know the audio is probably gonna be slightly behind I get that of something else I wanted to experiment with that's something that secret Kate Creed just said and that's again because I'm running the audio through the camera now the camera actually is a really good preamp so it's it's you know not gonna sound too fuzzy it won't sound too distorted actually all the audio that you hear that you have heard in the past 50 or some videos that I've recorded on the a7s2 has been run directly through the camera I haven't used really I mean I have a phantom power box but it's from Pyle but the audio is sampled straight into the camera so I don't have to do any of that you know splicing and trying to overlap my recorded audio with the audio that I hear recorded by the camera this is all straight simple forward it keeps things nice and easy for me and post also I you know it doesn't sound too bad so considering it's a camera again this isn't meant for like you know hardcore audio recording I'd say it's pretty good considering I only have like a cheap 50 $50 so phantom power box from pile here running so anyway let's get to some more questions I saw I saw a super jet from bazinga bazinga is always in the chat if he's not a modding needs to be modeling double check make sure you he is yeah he's got he's got mod status like a boss he gave $50 super check my dude I appreciate that I know they appreciate it but we want to make sure that we don't this this nothing that I'm doing on this channel is for that reason and my parents are good they're covered in insurance all that good stuff I don't want to talk too much about it the time or place for it but I do appreciate your support anybody who saw that video notice the whole city pretty much was wiped out we were spared over here it's crazy how 20 miles or so it makes all the difference with the wind patterns and just how intense storms like that can get so yeah now let's see here I'm gonna screw up just a little bit I see a bunch of I'm talking between you guys I like seeing that so if I don't answer your question maybe somebody else knows answer your question because there are a lot of questions usually so we're gonna get right into it I want to start with let's see here this is good okay okay this is a good question Owen Gish what price should I pay for a used 10 atti good question so like I'm gonna do this I never buy a graphics card unless I know it's a killer deal used anyway because if it's if it's not that great a deal you might as well just spend the extra 40 or 50 bucks to get the brand-new item because then you get the warranty and peace of mind you know you know it's a brand new item so you're not gonna have issues unless there's some kind of manufacturer defect which is always gonna be covered under warranty so what I typically do is look for something that's around half price if I can get near half price maybe bump it up to about 60 or 65% of MSRP I won't pay more than 78% of MSRP for a used product by that point I'll just buy the new thing unless it's something huge like a car or whatever I think when you buy a car there are several other things to consider computer components don't typically depreciate as quickly as cars do in that respect right you drive a car for 10 minutes brand new and it's already depreciated 5% so cars are different I think buying a new car it's very difficult to rationalize that I think that certified pre-owned is probably the best way to go usually get better warranties with though that's what I did with my Infiniti and I mean even just used in general typically the cars already depreciated enough and if you do the checkups and stuff make sure the car wrecks runs good if you know you're looking at if you don't hire a mechanic to do that for you then you're gonna be a-ok computer parts a little different you never know really what was going on behind the scenes that car could have been running mining 24/7 a lot of miners don't run 24/7 but you get the point and if they're running very hot people get concern about longevity and it's very difficult to gauge but I would say I can comfortably say of the ten or so cards that I just bought on eBay over the last month all of them work just fine that some of them are very dusty but that's really the extent of it so to answer your question attending to Ti I wouldn't pay any more than about 450 maybe 500 bucks for that's pushing it again that's usually around that 70% cap of MSRP if I could find a 1080i for between 400 and 450 in that price range that's a steal anything higher than that and I think you're starting to get into that 78% territory worried you might as well if you're gonna spend that much money buy a new one because you can get exactly what you want and again you're gonna have that warranty no matter what and you're gonna know exactly what happened to it because it was just put in a box you know there's nothing else it that happened to it and you know people have issues trusting other people with hardware I totally get that it's like loaning your car out to somebody it's always a little sketchy even if it's a family member so that's something else to consider there Jason Acevedo Canadian fabbed out a super chat appreciate that man dude what CPU should I get for 165 Hertz 1440p gaming it's a good question I have a 1080i taking you to account the soon-to-be-released 9 chen from intel ok so i can't really comment on the 9 genital stuff not only would I be under NDA if I had that stuff and I've already tested it but also I don't have any of that stuff I can't tell you firsthand I will say that for that kind of refresh rate right that 165 FPS cap that you're gonna have is going to stress your CPU a lot more than say 60 Hertz for cake and that's like purely graphics card at that point but when you start venturing into the 100-plus FPS territory you're gonna put a lot more of that leverage on your CPU and that's why I would recommend at least a hexa-core so if you could stick to the 80 600 K would be a decent option the 80 700 K obviously is a really good option you combine some just once for you know around two to two fifties or hang really good deals you could yet a 2600 or 2600 X from risin I think those are really good values if you're willing to buy a used 8700 K I would say you're almost just as good getting a regular 2600 or a 2600 X for around the same price because you know those again are brand new and they're going to work and most CPUs aren't randomly gonna die anyway but having that peace of mind again that's something people are willing to pay extra for and I'm not gonna knock you for it if that's something that is just your prerogative then sure please by all means do that so that's something else that I'm sure a lot of people weigh but in general I would say stick to six cores or more at this point for a high refresh rate system so if you have a 165 Hertz or 144 Hertz or 120 Hertz monitor six cores and 2018 is pretty much gonna keep you in the green I would say for the next three or four years I would be surprised if anything higher than that was required for that kind of refresh rate in modern games okay scrolling down let's see here yeah also I keep looking at the I'm checking the camera because I wanna make sure that it looks okay this looks a lot better than streaming from that Logitech 920 C 920 that was called that's the one everyone has but I figured I would give it a shot and see how long the cameras actually I don't have a camera wired directly into the wall so the batteries might die and in in the event that happens I will quickly swap them out and we'll get back to business so the camera feed might cut out and the audio will cut out but I'll fix it within a minute and we should be good to go again so until I get that wire that runs directly into the camera I'm gonna be running off of battery and the a7s2 chews through batteries not only because they're so small because cameras just it's a resource hog let's see here dolphin ight what is the first thing to upgrade in your setup if you already have good peripherals and a great PC I mean all right if you have a hole in your pocket and there are plenty of things you could potentially spend money on I don't know if you want me to talk about other peripherals or about things in your system I don't know what you have in your systems kind of a question but you could work on lighting like I would totally trick out my setup I would put like LED strips all the way around my desk and make it look all cool we could get sound damping foam if you want I buy a bunch of posters you know get some thin shelves you could put on top of your around your desk you know on the top I would say somewhere he hasn't run pointing like just above the damping foam behind me would be a cool place for debt for a shelving so you can put some stuff up there it seems to be like the way people check out their setups now if you want to go internal like I would totally step it up like build a second system you know go heart of your hardcore and and build like a streaming system inside of like a hardcore gaming rig that would be really cool you could do it with the fan text involve X you could do that with a couple of systems that are obviously going to cost you more more money and then a regular single PC bill but that's just something a little out of the box you can brag and say here there are two systems in here if you have again the money to spend but I don't think you'll need to Henri Lanfear why did you sell your s5 one because I think I got a better car and return I had to pay more for it but I think my car that I have now it's not only faster but it's it's nicer on the interior I think it looks just as good it doesn't have the Audi Flair but I think it still has a nice aggressive stance I miss all wheel drive that's something I do miss about the s5 but again I do love the power this car is 400 horsepower and sometimes it's higher than 400 to the wheels these red sports are kind of all over the place but I sold it because of that I also sold it because I wasn't sure I just you know if something happened with the timing chains and two timing chain Tencent attention errs gosh oh my god they're made out of plastic reinforced plastic they used to be really bad on the older four point two and three point to use those deficit engines had terrible wear and tear issues with respect to the timing chain tensioners and that's an n-channel service because the timing chains in those cars are against the firewall and you can't get to that obviously without pulling the whole engine out and attaching the transmission so that's an easily 8 to 10 grand grand job you know from four grand just for labor five inches really so I was a little worried about that I didn't have a warranty on the car the car that I have now though has an insane warranty ten years 100k miles I'll never touch that warranty like I'll never even come close to Brie I'll probably sell the car way before 10 years and I'll never come close to driving 100k miles on the road but that car because it never dries it always sits in the garage so I think that's just the best peace of mind possible again I got a faster car and return as well and I did have to basically traded my s5 in for so I had to finance the difference I think financing is just a better option for me because it allows me to keep more money in the bank so if I need to spend that money on anything else you know emergency wise whatever we get hit by Hurricane right and unexpected expenses I would like to have that money safe and sound in my savings account rather than invested in a car which will then require me to liquidate it and get the funds then which is no other hassle so yeah that's my take on it and that's just in a nutshell why I sold the car it was a great car though definitely I do recommend it I would probably end up buying it again I might buy the the B eight-point-five s5 but I still like that style of coupe and that's again why I bought the q6 TRS cuz it's also a coupe and it's got that same sporty feel to it let's see here - obelisk kit you know - obelisk - that's his name okay would you change at any DTI into a 2080 TI the only instance in which I would justify that change is if I expected to game at a resolution 4k or higher and I wanted to refresh rate higher than 60 Hertz because right now attending to T I can't it usually can handle 4k 60 and no high ish settings it really depends on the game I would say under 90 to 95% of circumstances you can play in 4k with high to very high settings and be comfortably within that 60 Hertz boundary but if you go higher than that that's gonna require more graphical horsepower again that's gonna put more leverage on your CPU as well but I assume you have your CPU in check because you're willing to spend that much in a 10-8 did she had to begin with so if you want to drop 1200 bucks on a 20 DTI then you better have a good reason for doing it and that reason in my opinion is only if you're playing in 4k or higher maybe you have 3 4k screens you wanna ball up 20 DT I would be better for the and then again a higher-resolution excuse me a higher refresh rate than 4k that again is gonna leverage your CPU more but it will require you graphics card to keep up as well and especially geez they required bandwidth for that 4k 120 Hertz is an insane amount of bandwidth so that's another reason why I don't really recommend it and longer because not many people are playing in this higher resolutions like ultra stretch 4k and stuff like that it's just a little too out of reach for the average consumer I think okay Sebastian Torres do you think a 790 metre 20xx NVIDIA refresh will happen next year no I don't think I don't think it'll be called that if it's seven nanometer 20xx I don't think it'll be called it won't be in the twenty Series put it that way well I think a better question sebastian is whether or not we will see the 2060 or the 2050 coming out soon right because they're gonna delay the 2017 launch and the reason why companies do that is because they say well this card is cheaper it's probably you know we're gonna be purchased more often so we're going to delay that launch in order to saturate sales with our higher-end cards but it's purely a marketing play and they're doing it because they want to make the sale right on the more expensive cards first and once they hit their quotas or when they expect to hit their quotas they then push out the cheaper cards because those are going to sell like hotcakes because they are more affordable the 2016 to 2050 whatever they end up being we don't know even if they may not even be released I haven't heard much of anything in regards to those new cards but what I will say is that I don't think the architectural play is going to be similar or identical to the 2070 2080 20 TI it doesn't make sense for me for a 20 60 equivalent to have arti cores to me it just defeats the purpose I don't think the cards gonna be powerful enough from a CUDA perspective to support the RT you know architecture like the the RT cores a tensor core is all that built into it to me it seems like a waste of time it's like putting a really fast car and really cheap wheels so I think if NVIDIA does something like this it will maybe they'll revive the volta architecture or they will take the the you know Turing architecture and they'll dumb it down a lot maybe they'll remove our tea cores they'll remove tensor cores and they'll they'll keep it cheaper by doing that so they'll completely redesign the the die but then that's not really Turing architecture so I don't really know what they're gonna do I'm curious to know what you guys think about that because we haven't heard very much about it so yeah good question though okay Andrew Stein would you buy a 2700 X 8700 K or wait for 9900 K for 1440p gaming at 144 Hertz software development a ton of multitasking okay so good question I think 144 hurts the 8700 K and the 2700 X can both handle that refresh rate admirably so if you're looking at it just from that perspective there make it makes no sense to me to wait I I would buy frankly either one you could get by with the 27 2700 X really would be that would be great 8700 be slightly better from a gaming perspective but I think that 2,700 X has the edge when it comes to just straight-up raw horsepower computational power under this two extra cores for extra threads and with better memory overclocking support right which is tied directly to the Infinity fabric which speeds up the entire rise in process the 2,700 X is a very formidable chip in 2018 so I'm not gonna take anything away from Intel they're still they still have the gaming King as of right now and the 9900 K looks to be the new gaming king but again it's gonna cost you a pretty penny and if you can find the 2700 X for cheaper than that it's tough it's tough to really say what the cutoff would be for me but if I was choosing a system for an all-around great multitasker software development assuming that they aren't Intel dependent software's then I would say the 2700 X is the better bet from Strictly gaming perspectives the 8700 K is the better bet so if you're going to do more of the development multitasking side of things 2,700 X is your best bet again assuming those things aren't Intel dependent that the software you're gonna be using let's see scrolling down here Adam Stephenson says stop thoughts on bit wits latest video I saw the title I actually saw it right before I set up the livestream so I didn't have time to watch yet but I love it when Lyle gets into those videos so I'll definitely be watching it after this because I'm always up for a laugh especially on days like today so I will be sure to watch it immediately after this and I'm sure I'll say something on Twitter or in the discord server about it at some point okay let's see here I think I missed I'm again missing you're missing a $10 super chat again I appreciated my duty so this is for you where is Pepsi are you sure you will not exceed 100k miles once Lisa gets here once Lisa gets her hands on the car that's a good that's a good point so this this is my take on it ish when she movies here I told her I was like okay I'll buy you a Jeep or I'll buy you something I'll buy you some bigger car that you can take off road you can drive on to the beach and all this good stuff plus the perks for taxes I can write off a bigger car it's better and send it for me so I'll end up probably making that the company car which is what it will essentially be we'll do a lot of moving equipment back and forth with that vehicle so it will be I think a better investment to get a bigger car for her and that's great because she wants a bigger car anyway it's gonna be 4x4 it's got to be for what she wants to do and then we'll leave the q60 for just general driving whenever I'm comfortable enough parking it next to somebody else that's when we'll be using it but a good question also Pepsi is in the other room she's probably hiding on top of her a little trap house that we built her because the dogs are over and she does not like the dogs she'd remember she used to living alone so she's she's been spoiled for her whole life so when misty and Maiko come over cuz my parents are here with them she gets a little she gets a little upset and she really she tests the limits that she can push with those dogs Maiko doesn't care make us as big as she is but Misty's bigger than Pepsi so you know Pepsi's got it she's gonna see how how far you can push before it just makes misty bark and how long do all those gnarly things Pepsi packs down very quickly but she's over there right now I'm sure watching the dog looks very closely I didn't want to keep her in here because she might have worn it out at some point let's see Toma pink $10 Canadian I appreciate that my dude you look like a halo youtuber by the name the act man when you're both wearing glasses Afghan jihad the look in love the act man question what's the minimum specs to build a second PC for streaming only looking to get 1080p 60fps this is something that you could probably get away with this is like power supplies right you could get away with a 450 or 500 watt power supply and a 1070 i seven eighty seven or cables right but you don't want to push the limit it's it's you could if you want it if you were on a really tight budget but assuming that you're not and you want that second pc because you could scream on your first pc but i assume you're gonna have some money left over and you're comfortable spending that money because you want a second pc just for this subject i would say no less than an i5 a modern i5 and no less on AMD side than arisin v 1400 or 2400 g if you want to go with with the APU and I say that for a couple of reasons you don't know what you'll be if you want to just stream on that PC you could probably away with even an i3 cuz that's all it's gonna be doing but I would say just in case you want to have extra Headroom if you want to push that bitrate up you want to use obviously x264 for that then my yeah my recommendation would be at least r5 or i5 just again because you want to play it safe to me that makes sense scrolling down AMD best value that's right i believe that i think amy does have the value on their side right now all across the board no maybe not with graphics cards I think Nvidia is still dominating that market not from the Turing perspective but from the Pascal perspective look Pascal is still very viable in 2018 don't you guys to feel like if you buy a Pascal card right now that you're behind the times like you couldn't afford the Turing stuff you had to buy the Pascal stuff that's absolutely not true the gtx 1070 is still one of the best value graphics cards on the market right now the gtx 1060 falls slowly behind that the RX v 7 t RX 580 both for naked parents of that card are still great in 2018 for 1080p and even 1440p gaming medium to high settings sometimes even very high settings depending on the game and your cpu to back it up so it really I don't know I I would just say you know if you're on a budget of let's say a thousand dollars or less sticking with a GTX 1060 or 1070 or five five seventy or five eighty is just gold it really is and that budget it's gold if you want to buy used then you're gonna save even more money on the graphics card you'll be able to buy a nicer CP or a nice your motherboard or more ram or you know bigger storage drive so you can really work with your budget if you're willing to go use and that's why I've pushed someone to use graphic art videos lately but even if you choose to buy new which again I'm not gonna dock you for that's your prerogative that's what you choose to do with your money then you can still work out a solid 1080p or 1440p gaming PC within a thousand dollar budget at least in the US I'm not sure about Canada other places obviously they typically charge more for a comparable easy parts so that sucks and then Europe has the VAT tax so plenty of things to consider outside of the United States but for those who live inside the United States which is roughly fifty to sixty percent of my audience and you're gonna be sitting in the neighborhood especially if you buy used but even new Pascal is cheaper than it wasn't launched which is good for the most part let's see scrolling down here adrian kia wong kikyo ki own kiki own our butcher - says hey there man love you bids mate from australia here i appreciate that my dude I heard you guys internet it's not that great Brian was telling me he's a decent internet I think I think he told me that but Australia in general is not known for their internet speeds and I think that's due to the different ways that it's linked with other servers across the planet obviously they have to go completely across the Pacific to get to the US and that's a big issue latency there is another thing to consider so I'm wondering how how it really is a lot like if I move to Australia tomorrow like what should I expect Internet wise and what should I expect to pay for that for that bandwidth I'm just curious okay scrolling down Mike Bella boki what's the best CPU to get right now and depending mean best value or best or former best performer before the 9,900 k comes out for gaming it's TV 700k hands-down best value I would say the 2600 from AMD is the best value right now is your 6 cores 12 threads nearly paying about 200 bucks for it that to me stomps all over the i-5 counterpart which is gonna cost about the same but you're not gonna get multi-threading you're not gonna get hyper threading because Intel is Intel so take the gravy from AMD while you can at that price I think that 2600 is a killer BET right now and you can click XMP in the BIOS and not have to worry about anything else it's not stubborn like Rison one was the first gen rise and stuff ok John Heysel men are you getting the evolve X rip my dude I already have a review of the evolve X on the channel so might want to go watch that GG ok it's scrolling down here let's see I'm at the very bottom I'm reading all the chats right now I know I missed a lot I can't really keep up with them but I'm I'm live right now reading your guys comments so when you type them I read them try and find the good ones then I'm 4:15 what do you think AMD will bring this spring CPU and GPU eyes I have absolutely no idea to be honest like a lot of these companies to keep things under wraps and they do a great job doing it I know as soon as the other tech reviewers when we have an upcoming cpu launch they're usually pretty good about telling us that stuff again of course under embargo but in general if AMD had something coming I could probably hint it to you some way in some fashion I don't I haven't heard anything from them recently I mean the read Ripper 2 was their big thing right so nothing this year that I know of if something does come out I mean I'm out of the loop I don't really read the news or the hype or like the you know the rumors and leaks but I will say I've had no contact with them recently because there is not much to report on so and then also from the graphics card side of things I'm not sure I mean out the the Vega 56 and 64 in my opinion were flops not because of the performance because they were they were comparable performance wise but the inventory levels just weren't there they're there now you can buy rx 15 excuse me uh Vega 56 for what around 400 bucks to me that's a decent deal that puts it right in line with the gtx 1070 then it comes down to software I prefer Nvidia softer I'm just more familiar with it usually I'll choose that seventy-eight Cudas support in Adobe products that's not a big part for me but you know if you're into just supporting AMD because you feel like supporting AMD I have no problem with that if that's your again that's something that you prefer to do then Vega 56 is viable but the launch itself was difficult people couldn't get the cards and then the mining craze took off and then those cards were ungettable and people are paying thousands of dollars for Vega 64 it's ridiculous they were some of the best mining cards available but still that hurt the gamer so I think it really comes down to how quickly they can release a new graphics card you know a new GPU architecture and what the prices end up being I think they have a huge opportunity here to UNAC return and video look if they release their cards right now that would that would stifle Nvidia is cheaper line up so much look Nvidia it only has the 2017-2018 22 Ti from Turing which means that we have to fall back a Pascal so that means that whatever aim he releases now new that's affordable will compete with Nvidia's all their gen stuff which i think isn't all that bad because it gives us more more of an option right we're not stuck to buying older hardware and at the same time we're probably gonna get better performance for the same price because this again will be new architecture and seven nanometer that's and that's it's nothing to laugh at so we'll see what it really brings I don't know much about it because we haven't heard much from them in this regard no but we know what's coming I just don't know how soon I also realized that my chat window is completely chopped off in the live feed and that sucks Hassan Aslam does using a riser cable for graphics cards make your FPS drop yes the answer to that is yes but it depends on the riser cable so some rather cables won't make a drop at all I should clarify like the riser cable that I use in my personal rig doesn't result in an FPS drop you can verify that very easily just remove the riser cable plug the cord straight into the PCI slot on the motherboard run your tests and then swap it back out and you can usually gauge the FPS Delta usually within the margin of error one or two FPS that means that there's no difference at all but a bad razor cable will give you very chop frame rates that's one of the reasons why you know you might be able to tell that a riser cables going bad if your FPS are really smooth and then all of a sudden you get a really big drop frame maybe it takes half a second for those frames to load right that's that's an incredibly long amount of time you will notice that that actually happened with Lisa's system I had to swap that riser cable for another one and then BOOM no more chop and she was complaining about it a lot so I basically deduced it down to that riser cable I swapped the card I made sure CPU was you know the overclock sure stable tried reinstall in the game and then I just said screw it it's probably riser cable I should have ultimately thought that it was riser cable to begin with I just didn't think much of it I didn't think he could go bad in the middle of gaming but it certainly did because when I swapped it for another one it was good to go let's see here Kevin Xing hi greg been watching your videos for two years I appreciate the support Kevin thank you for that do you think older CPUs like the i-5 60 600k and i7 4790k are still worth it for gaming if bought at a low price might regret my decision might might regret my decision go use it's a good question yeah I definitely think that they're still viable you could game on a 4790k a no problem and you're really only gonna see with respect to Intel maybe it's tough if you if you go back as far as Ivy Bridge I know the difference is between 20 to 30 percent so that means that if you're gaming on a 8700 can now and you're getting 100 FPS you're gonna lose about 30% of those frames if you drop down to Ivy Bridge but dropping down to just has well I'm pretty sure I have to go back and test I haven't tested this recently I would say that the difference there is only gonna be 10 to 15% maybe a little more depending on the clock speeds obviously if you know 55.2 giga eighties 500k is gonna blow and 47 any k out of the water at 4.4 gigahertz so it really depends on on clocks but four cores and eight threads and 2018 is still okay people tend to oh it's a quad core oh I don't want a quad core right because AMD made hexa core CPUs mainstream when they released the the r5 series but I would say that an i-5 from back then it's going to be okay an i7 is still going to be acceptable I would say obviously better than just a quad core non hyper thread Intel CPU so a 4790k I would probably pay around I wouldn't pay more than what an r5 1400 cost so if you can get an RFI 1400 for a hundred and sixty bucks that's about how much I would pay for a 4790k but I have a feeling that those are going for a bit more on eBay which means that I would probably recommend a risin 5 over that just because you get a brand-new system and the motherboards aren't going to be as difficult to obtain right if you buy in 4790k you're probably not gonna find a new c 97 motherboard out there you're gonna have to buy a used e 97 motherboard which will then require you to buy ddr3 and ddr4 sure yeah that's ddr3 and ddr4 used as well so all that to consider right so if you go with the Rison 5 chip you're gonna be on TV or you're gonna be on a newer chipset and you're no more support more features more than likely and I'm tie it probably cost you the same if not less just because the platform is so cheap up front all right let's see here scroll up okay Brandon says he asks is a 650 watt power supply enough for an i7 8700 K and RT X 1080 heavily overclocked I'm pretty sure the recommended power supply for a 1080 is 600 watts or there abouts so yeah I think that's perfectly fine and I know it's fine actually even if it's heavily overclocked depends on how only obviously if you're like doing some really weird like custom cooling or you're like dumping liquid nitrogen on the thing and you're overclocking it across the board or like 4,000 megahertz whatever they get them to that's gonna that's gonna consume a ton of power you're gonna want an overclocking power supply for that but 650 watts for your average gamer even when overclocked both on your CPU and your GPU is acceptable and even if it's not ideal right at maybe the 400 watt range because that would be your peak efficiency you're still going to be comfortably within that 0 to 650 watt range you're gonna be near 5 I would say you're probably gonna zoom around 500 watts or so it depends on how heavily overclocked that r-tx 2010 80 is 2080 I think is what you mean it really depends I'm actually running some power consumption tests right now on my r-tx 2080s so we'll see very soon okay but bah I see a question from Joran Brea's bren's dull thoughts on the coolermaster h 500 new version with mesh front I actually already reviewed that so you should go watch mine watch my video on it that would probably him I'm pretty sure the H 500 H 500 P mesh are the same pretty sure I mean that if they're different they're very very tiny differences between the two so go watch my review on that and then maybe that'll give you a better view I'm just telling you that because it's easier to explain in the video that I already created about the subject versus wasting time for other people who already have seen the video in this livestream to answer the question okay let's see okay mr. Sudz i7 7700 K or rise in 2700 X for games only I would still go with the 2700 X even if the 7700 K has a slight edge in games it's still locked to 4 cores and if you ever decide to do anything else other than game at the same time especially you're gonna benefit from the rise in 2700 X so I would go with that one in my opinion assuming you're not worried about the price difference there and I don't really know your prices you can you can be living in a totally different country for prices are totally different but that's something for you to consider something that I don't really know okay let's see stamp says love your videos keep with a good book I appreciate that there are so many questions I am trying my best no problem John I appreciate it I hope you enjoy the review again if you have any other questions about the review maybe I didn't answer something you were looking for in that review of the age 500 then you can leave a question just at me in the discord server and I'll be sure to get to it I look at all my ads sometimes I'm a day or two behind but I try to reply to all of them especially if they're good questions like that Rex's text is a 92 TI is still capable yes it is I've videos on that actually very recent videos within the last two or three weeks I invite you to watch those it's about used graphics cards and I use about 290 DT eyes though tech amp extremes to prove the point right when I'll spend my own money on these cards because I think that they're great values so if you spend around 200 bucks on an 8 1980 i its gtx 1070 issue performance I think it's a really great value because 1070 is the new are selling for 400 bucks or higher you can even get 10 70s for around 220 bucks or so on eBay if you're willing to look and bid on the right once let's see here scrolling down this is a good one check shot Crawley oh gosh and butchered that name I apologize have you ever tried to build a hackintosh and just to learn from it I've had many people request that and I haven't gotten around to it yet because I am very afraid that I will not know what I'm doing I know it's easy just to follow the steps in the forums but I actually have to get around doing that and I have to make sure that I have the hardware that supports a hackintosh build so it's gonna take more research than I've done currently to actually successfully do one I'm going to probably hit up Quinn from snazzy labs just to make sure that I know what I'm doing because he's done that quite a few times so maybe we'll do like some kind of collaboration might be really cool clad between the channels we'll see if we can do something like that well let's see zombie city's house will doing haven't seen him much on discord the good question uh so will if he's asking this because we got hit by the hurricane right and all the powers out we have no power on the east side of the bridge and no water and no cell service so people have no idea what's going they have never they haven't seen the news in a week they have no idea if their loved ones are okay it's actually kind of scary and we'll I had no idea that will was okay until he texted me about two days ago actually in Skype so he probably found a Wi-Fi hotspot or something and sent me and he's like hey I'm still alive I mean it's a literally what he said but he was watching his dad his dad has some medical issues so he was with his dad making sure he was okay throughout the thing and I think the hospital that he was in I mean she's got obliterated so now the roof is like missing leaks everywhere basically what happened to my parents house so I was good to hear that he was okay but I he probably won't be underscore for a while there's gonna be a lot of cleanup I'm not even sure if the house he's currently renting is even livable I don't know I mean he's lived in the house for a while several years I believe and again I don't know if he can actually live in it because it might be completely flooded out so we'll see I will try my best to keep up with him we talk almost daily but since this hurricane we haven't been able to talk very much at all so well to catch up and see what's going on well let's hear Joe we have a Greg what's your favorite GPU under 100 Joey I literally have a video that's like titled that exact thing that I uploaded like four or five days ago you should go watch that video best graphics card for a hundred bucks it's in that video that's a GTX 970 let's see Brandon Smith asks is a $50 gtx 1070 suspicious i'm gonna say yeah probably you know what it sounds like one of those ripoff chinese brand graphics cards that are actually flashed they have flashed bios's so the dies themselves are gtx 550 TI's or some garbage like that and they just flash biases that make cpu-z or whatever or GPZ identify the flash bios as the actual card when in reality the hardware is different I know that some buddies of the GPU the GP identifier is now tell you when it's a fake card which is kind of funny because once it tells you it's a fake card it's kind of too late right because you've already bought it so I don't really know how much good that does bloody let's see bloody glitch asked a good question will FEMA cover your parents house or their insurance the FEMA doesn't okay so FEMA's supplemental stuff and FEMA doesn't cover much at all so when hurricane let's say Hurricane Katrina went through it wiped out all those homes in Louisiana because they were under sea level usually this check stood between like a thousand and three thousand dollars it's not meant to replace your home it's just a supplemental so they expect you to have insurance flood insurance just the home insurance in general and then FEMA comes in and says hey we'll help you out a little more we'll give you this for maybe relocation expenses or whatever that's what FEMA steps in and does but home insurance is for actually replacing the home you'll never get FEMA insurance that doesn't exist FEMA is just there to kind of woman whatever you might have coming from your insurance company because sometimes it takes a while for insurance companies to pay things out so that's how that's how FEMA works good question though nuts see scrolling down and your night asked I love turtles am i did I say something that makes actually think that I love terms who doesn't love turtles now it's kind of a dumb question it's like seeing who doesn't love teddy bears like who really doesn't look teddy bear so that's a genuine question if you don't like teddy bear teddy bears let me know in the chat is uh we're gonna have a talk okay scrolling down and again in copyright at science studio I missed it what is scary is how dependent we are or we have become technology if one small piece goes around the entire system goes down you have look dude I think one of the biggest threats to our modern society is society as an EMP when I think about an EMP I think about a nuclear detonation that's a byproduct of that but it's funny because I don't really think about the destruction of like an entire city by nuke being the biggest issue I always think about the aftermath like the nuclear fallout of the EMP that kills all the electronics like to me those are the long lasting effects right people get incinerated instantly by these bombs but but the people that survived are gonna stare I mean they're gonna gosh I think I'd rather die quickly and then die slowly by radiation poisoning so those are the people that really get hammered and I think just from like uh because he had dragged out and not having power from an EMP and just being exposed a nuclear fault that's a that's a huge issue and I think that if anything big like that happened those would be the the just the most pertinent things that would affect us personally not having electronics not having technology at our disposal would definitely send us back into the Stone Age and that is a scary scary thing let's see here I don't I can't read your name because it's in looks like Japanese but I don't know for sure hey Greg I was about to pull the trigger on an 8700 K but wondering if I should wait for Rison - it would be risin 530 600 X 7 and a meter I'll be gaming it that resident 4k upgrading from 9 from from 1080p okay if you're jumping to 4k you're gonna offset your CPU usage your CPUs are just going to drop because your frame rate is going to drop and that puts more leverage on your graphics card to push out you know to render each pixel versus having to render multiple frames at the same time which is something that your CP struggles to do we have videos talking about this extensively but if you plan to jump from 1080p to 4k then it really makes no sense to wait for a better CPU because that's not going to be your limiting factor it will be your graphics card also I have no idea where you got rising 530 600 X from because I've never heard of that before if that's some leak or whatever I wouldn't count on that being the name but I also wouldn't be willing to wait that long because we don't know how long that's gonna take before that 7:00 a.m. your stuff arrives so don't get your hopes up I would say 80s 200 K is perfectly fine right now if you want to buy me to sit under K okay let's see Moe euro did you manage to get your money back from that super cheap graphics card yes I actually I said in that video mode that I would upgrade update the the comment section I would pin my comment with my ultimate like you know result from that I would tell you guys if I got scammed totally never got my money back or if I got my money back and how long it took I did get it I did get my money back it took thirty something days I think 35 days and the reason for that is because PayPal holds that money when it's under dispute for 30 days so you're gonna be waiting I think it's 30 days you're gonna be waiting that long for your money kind of in limbo so it won't actually go to the seller but it won't come back to you because eBay has to settle a dispute especially if you do it via PayPal so that money stays there in that little limbo state and then it gets refunded to you when they determine that your claim is valid and that the purchaser was attempting to rip you off and that's what happened so it was about a little over a month to get the money back so if you're really worried about being scammed but you're not afraid of not seeing that money for you know a while and it's not gonna hurt just to try it but obviously like someone said earlier Brandon said earlier if it's a $50 gtx 1070 that's a scam like point-blank that or the card is broken and that's misleading if it's not mentioned so keep an eye out for all that good stuff ladies and gentlemen all right scrolling down just a little more but the Baba okay seeing some good questions uh-huh fries official is to go one what's the best GPU an FX 6300 can handle no bottleneck with an Rx 588 gig work fine depends on the game look you can't say that a game is never gonna bottleneck under a certain searching me under for a certain computer build because every game utilizes resources differently so you know you play in GTA 5 of a pretty balanced game between CP and GP horsepower you could be playing witcher 3 where it's all about your graphics card and you could run on a g f-- you know g 32-bit 32:58 oh gosh my Pentiums are getting confused you know I'm saying like dual core dual core CPUs from way back when I think it's it yeah it's a 32:58 right am I going crazy that was the one that was overclockable the anniversary edition yeah if that's not it I just my mom but anyway yeah I think that's what I'm talking about you can go with something like that and play witcher 3 and 4k and not have too many hard core issues you might have some stutters but in general it's almost always gonna be your graphics card at higher resolutions with those games especially so it really depends on the game but i would say in general an FX 6300 is gonna be paired just fine with anything at at gtx 1060 s level or lower your your cpu is almost gonna be always the bottleneck when you're using an FX 6300 even if it's overclocked just because of how inefficient piledriver and bulldozer architecture is and that's for a variety of reasons we have videos on that as well talking about why FX processors aren't actually hexa core and octa-core processors because they share many resources including a scheduler which limits things quite a bit no idea I think they share FP use I'm trying to think off the top my head what it was they shared all this they shared quite a bit it mimics to an extent multi-threading which is that would make the FX 6300 you know triple core try core what would you say yeah try core right it doesn't mean I feel like I'm losing my mind anyway you get the point it's scrolling down and see best RGB fan that was a good question I really liked the Borah fans from Lee and Lee I think they have really cool really cool RGB fans Corsair has really great RGB fans if you want to go with NZXT they have a great RGB setup with the hue hue i know i think now they have out the only reason why I don't recommend thermaltake RGB fans is because they're a little the LEDs are more spaced out so they don't diffuse very well I don't like I don't like it when our TVs don't diffuse so that's a reason why I always use either g.skill tried and CR GB RAM or I use a team group now huh RGB around a team who does a great job as well scattering that light and and I think G skills is probably the best at it of course there's new RGB Ram is really good as well again course there's really good from an RGB front altogether not too much the diffusion there's really good and the customization is really good because software is great NZXT is really good as well again the hue plus using the camp software it's gonna be a little more resource intensive in general but that's because in txt actually takes diagnostic info and uses that for their build service so there are a few different options but in general it's a corsair NZXT for just fans leanly bora fans are really good those are probably my top 3 ok scrolling down here let's see you got about 10 more minutes in lastik it's by really fast she's thirty nine fifty okay Timmy 2g at science to do what do you think of the I $9.99 hundred K and how they said that until cheated on the benchmarks Timmy I literally released that video like yesterday you should go and watch that video answers your question tells you exactly what I think about the situation okay Pat adolfo back in July I bought an i7 4790k with a motherboard and 16 gigs of ram from my brother for 300 bucks I originally had an i5 2408 gigs of ram would you personally say it was a good deal hmm yeah I would say yeah I seven with 16 gigs of ram and a motherboard that to me just if if you have a system before that that's a really good deal for three hundred bucks you could probably sell just the CPU for two hundred and then 16 gigs of ddr3 still gonna sell for it I would say around a hundred bucks so you're basically getting a motherboard for free I don't think that's a bad platform at all and you could certainly game on that as well so yeah I think you made out that's a really good really good deal they're scrolling down and see Jason Azevedo thing but that five dollar Canadian super chat Manu does raising the power target of a 1080 TI to the maximum for everyday use in gaming to grade the chip over time I intend to keep it for two to three years yes so it's going to degrade the obviously if you run more voltage through a chip it's going to degrade faster how much faster that degrees is difficult if not impossible to measure and that's why there is no set standard like hey if you set your voltage to three point or one point three six to your CPS gonna last for four point five years if you set it to one point four two it's gonna last for one point six years right so obviously as you increase voltage you're making that thing heat up faster those those power tolerances are big they're limited and when you're running that much voltage through very tiny fine parts those things could split fry you get certain chunks of transistors that don't function anymore I mean look with every wafer that's ever ever created there's never as far as I know I mean difficult to actually quantify this but have a perfect way for it with every transistor and the entire wafer working perfectly that's why you have bidding right that's why you have certain things that that limit the CPUs ability to overclock right power tolerances and that's a big one overclocking tolerances with respect to heat right because those two are typically exponentially related once you hit a certain frequency threshold the voltage requirement just skyrockets and that is due to binning that is due to the imperfections in each of those dies so yeah if you raise the power tolerance or if you raise the the power target you're going to wear it out quicker but to what degree I can't tell you every GJ extended yeah it's gonna be different because they're all running on different dyes and on top of that even if they all ran on the exact same dye you would still wouldn't be able to quantify that because there are different environmental situations right maybe it's running a little harder maybe your system in general is just running a little hotter or who knows using a different motherboard different power supply all those tiny little differences in ripple and all that stuff can affect it but in general raising the power target I don't think it's gonna kill your graphics card anytime soon unless it's just not manufactured well these cards are able to handle over clocks in fact they encourage over clocks because they're automatically overclocked typically out of the box anyway I wouldn't be afraid to do it just don't do it you know to an insane level that and then you're just testing your look okay mr. smile when will graphene chips be used to make processors good question mr. smile I have actually a video dedicated to that about we know what's the limit for transistors how small can we truly go before quantum tunneling takes over and it just defeats the purpose of having a transistor in a chip anyway that's a good question I have that video up I believe it's in the crash course playlist it might be them in a science but I'm not sure if I did that one fast or slow but it's it's on the channel and the less I invite you to watch that video you will be entertained I think let's see Ethan Hinkle do you think it will be worth it to take apart my of course there 570 X and paint it white I think the white version looks so good don't they sell white 570 X but painting is not as easy as it looks and you're gonna have some very unless you're a good painter you consider yourself a professional painter I'm certainly not any time I have to paint anything I'm always kind of afraid because if I butcher it I got to start from scratch i scrub all the paint off with nail polish remover or something and start again but painting it to me painting a case is very difficult because there are so many fine crevices and grooves and you could just buy a white 570 X I'm pretty sure so if you're that concerned about it being white just sell your 570 X and buy a new one and you know eat the difference in cost that's what I would do okay I see a couple more questions here I'm gonna get to the DS right now I appreciate all these good questions you guys are the bomb.com for joining me on this Sunday night slash a Monday morning or afternoon depending on where you live on the planet let's see Luise Carpio D living on horizon not recommended because rising for the most part is soldered and that's not smart so you don't want to delete a soldered chip that's one way to kill your chip very fast don't do it now I usually they use some like indium gallium mix and that's the gallium part makes it flew it enough to where it doesn't you know it doesn't require this order to heat up to very high temperatures which could damage the die and the indium is believed the indium is the conductor part I want to say that having Indian there is important but the the gallium keeps it kind of liquid because gallium melts in your hand and that makes it slightly malleable it's like liquid metal that used from thermal Grizzly they're not the same thing but they're similar okay let's see here Demetrios P through 50 x mesh if I see or H 500 that's a typical question okay I think you're looking at three different price ranges there Dimitri's I would say P 3 4 DX if you're worried about price excuse me cuz you can get that for about 60 bucks I think it's a really great value I think it's 60 bucks and the measure of IC is a little more expensive but it's gonna have better air flow and I think it looks I think it's got a really clean look it's a very subtle look but you know what's mesh if I see when you see it that are defined C so depends on how much you want to spend if you're more worried about value the P 350 X is it also if you're more worried about RGB elimination the P 350 X is it but if we're more worried about just being cool you know just being chilled nice YC is the better bet aged 500 only if you want a bigger case for water cooling or the sword scrolling down let's see but uh good questions here okay I've science studio would you say the four cores four threads is holding me back on my I 570 600 K paired with a GTX 1063 gate nope I would actually say that what's holding you back with that is your three gig frame buffer on 1060 I don't think that was a I think that was kind of a it was just wasn't a good move on Intel's part already not Intel Nvidia start with a three gig frame buffer on a 1060 kind of cuts it at its knees because it's very easy to max out three gigs of ram especially in some modded games but you could max out GTA 5 settings and get pretty close to that sometimes so and a 1060 can handle all those things you add on to it for the most part in 1080p but the frame buffer sometimes is the limiting factor in to me that should never be the case in the graphics card excuse me so I think your your you know your quad courtship there is certainly going to be a bottleneck in a certain situations but I think that your 1063 gig is probably the thing that I would grade first believe it or not just because if you upgrade the CPU you're either gonna have to go upgrade the entire platform at your acquire a motherboard and CPU change versus just don't make from a 1062 a 1070 in my opinion would be basically a night and day difference especially in 1440p okay let's see here Java okay I see one from Java what's his name Java budget gaming I see have an III Xeon gaming PC build video I'd love for you to make a an X 30 for xx hyper 30 variants PC build they're good second gen i7 equivalent CPUs when overclocked to 3.8 plus ki creates with a 1060 yeah and this is something that I would say is probably more in Brian's realm from techie city I'm Brian I worked work together a lot but I would say that that's certainly something we could do on the channel I would just need Brian's help so maybe we can have as a guest in that video and we can put something like that together the problem is though all that stuff's out of pocket so whenever I buy used components right I don't get the used components for free from anybody I mean it's difficult for me to source all these parts from multiple videos so when I do something like this I'm kind of going all-in maybe I'll resell it that could be how i recoup my investment give you a second video on trying to sell the thing so that's that's a possibility but in general I try to have all the components in hand upfront if I can from a company if I don't like with my used graphic cards I bought all those out of pocket but it just helps when I don't have to dip into my own business account to pay for all this stuff because it can get very expensive especially when we build at least one PC week so that's nothing am I afraid of but again if I if I sell these could sell these builds it'd be a cool way to try to flip them you know we can do something like that try to experiment who's the best flipper maybe it would be pretty cool just a way to spice things up in the channel a bit a bit Explorer I think about five I like super check my dude I appreciate it just build an i 565 650 Wow I 5 650 1066 gig super super clocked a gig would a better upgrade I three beat 80 100 or an i-5 8400 I mean obviously the i5 8400 is the better I think we can all agree on that for the price I still think the I 584 hundreds a better bet if you want to stick with Intel which I assume we do didn't recommend an hour five processor then I would say the r5 excuse me the i5 8400 is the best bet I think it's the best i five cpu around for around 180 bucks sometimes you can get it for I think it's a really good value still not as good as rising five just throwing that out there but if you want to stick with until I totally get it the i5 8400 will game very well in 1080p 1440p an in 4k just because it does have six of course at its disposable and the clocks are decent considering the SKUs is not an unlock SKU so yeah I think I think the I have 84 hundreds a better bet I wouldn't buy an i3 at this point I I think that the risin fives have definitely wiped wipe the floor with the art with the i3 unless you're doing just gaming which is something I don't recommend anybody commit to because you find you'll use that system for more than just gaming down the line I bet I'm in the RFI for sci-fi of debacle I think that I mean because you can buy a risin 7 1700 s for like a hundred and eighty bucks sometimes that to me kills cr5 are the i5 excuse me but if you again are just gaming and that's all you're ever worried about and I that's the one place where the i-5 is recommended in my book it's just it's very difficult for me to say hey just buy a system or build a system just for gaming because I don't think it's something you're ever gonna only do you either get into streaming or you get into content creation or you want to do something above gaming cuz gaming is just gaming right that's all it is it's just for you but if you want to do it for other people and do it to grow your business or whatever then you're gonna want to do more than just game and I think you're limiting yourself when you just buy you know an i5 when you could have so much more your disposal with multi-threading support and more cores again you're supposed for the same price okay let's do one more question here let's see I'm looking for something something juicy give me somethin give me a good question somebody who I haven't answered a question from yet let's see here Java says no problem man just saying as a future video idea totally cool man yeah and that's actually a really good idea I think I think it's a good idea because we haven't done as the unbuilding a long time like you said yeah we've only done one on the channel another while back that was actually a newsie on that I because it was a it was an alternative to the i7 skew that was a little more expensive does neon just didn't have a dedicated GPU let's see something good folks and give me something good how long do you feel oh gosh I can't even I can't remember the last time I had oatmeal is that weird I think it's weird okay uh hmm see I'm looking at all questions I'm looking at them I'm looking for something juicy yeah I better be juicy folks see see I see him rolling in oh yeah here they come oh yeah not soon okay these are looking at all right let's see here Kevin Shane have you built in a Corsair Air 240 no I haven't maybe at some point I will I know they wanted me to build on it or they wanted me to review it I just I didn't have the time because I wasn't about to get ready to move that was right after copy text a thing when they were sending this out and I had a lot of things on my plate a lot of case reviews actually that I had already planned but I think I will build in it at some point I just need it I need more em ATX motherboards I have many here I don't have any here right now so I got to get a couple of ax boards in here we'll do a couple cool videos with cases like that for sure Jonathan asked looking for any good Black Friday deals not really you know I noticed last year's Black Friday was basically TV he's like that was all they were really pitching to people was like hey check out this 4k 55 inch TV for three hundred dollars like no I saw a ton of that and maybe some console deals nothing really on graphics cards and CPUs it was just a really bad time and and I was kind of pointed by that I think the year before that was much better so we'll see I cursed I'll keep my I'll keep my eye open and if we do see anything really good we will have those videos on the channel for you guys to check out hopefully in advance so you can plan for them in the future that's just my take on it z77 job as my question isn't juicy yet you didn't ask the question in the comments so rip that right you were supposed to ask it and so I can read the whole thing not just part of it anyway let's see your ex bougie says keep up the good videos I appreciate that my dude look it is 10:05 here folks it's been a long day but help my parents clean up and we're gonna be doing more that tomorrow I imagine so I'm gonna get on out of here I appreciate you stopping by on the Sunday night slash Monday morning or afternoon depending on where you live on the planet this is after-hours number 27 before we end this one I'm gonna ask you guys to please spam the chat box with your favorite emojis and that's how we end every After Hours livestream we've known that for the past what 10 or so episodes and I love that it gives me a chance to shout it at you guys for watching and for being very vocal in the chatbox so please spam with your favorite 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