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alright it looks like we are live for the 12th episode of after hours we have our first official tech tuber guest on the I'm so sorry alright can you speak real quick if we can hear you can you say something okay yeah I just one make sure I got you coming through the coming through the desktop here go ahead and keep you've made me like what is it not even 16 by now and you may be like a square almost but but I'm still getting you vertically so that's why I was saying like your head was like on the top of the frame and then with Skype there's like a gray bar that doesn't go away on the video chat so it cuts it off even more I think and that's why I'm yeah anyway there's my mouse over your face so if you can see here here his glasses they're looking mighty fine right now yeah no I did yeah yeah that was when the start I didn't even think about your audio being that way anyway let's go ahead and start off with though we usually don't cover news but I actually like this I like this format it's just kicked back and just kind of chill you know I want you to be very very open and honest about this I mean yeah I don't know Channing memorial IMAX tour what's going on yeah I got you max out dude oh okay you sound great coming through here okay yeah that's why yes yeah that's why I went to xsplit because it was I got these issues where you just couldn't volume match people and then it crashed and all this stuff I've got to try over yes again but slowing to explain what I mean what I can do is just turn myself down yeah poor Chu Ando Greg's thanking you for the sub I can do your like live chat stuff for you dude it's all good okay baller still allowed to love and if I start blasting it up this and it's doing really metal like it's it's DB capped on this end so yeah I don't know you sound great in here and I've used this before another with other Skype people I don't know why it's not it's just desktop audio I mean it's just coming through normal like any other thing okay yeah it's just saying my what do you need to boost mmm I'm gonna turn me down again let's lower yourself and then boost everything I don't know that might do it well I can't even boost anything past what it's already yeah like my soundboard is controlling me like I've only got it like third okay so I think it's safe now to say that if you turn up everything yeah I'll make sure I don't peak on my end and I'll try to match my amplitude with his I think we're yeah you and I are about the same I'm gonna try up in my mic if it's still too low as well I can do a little bit of a boost it so it's up to the audience okay we'll see what they say now I'm not sure I'm I just raised my chair up so you got like yeah like I'll go here so then you can see half my head will be chopped off and that'll be pretty cool I don't know how to set up a live stream dang it I wanted to impress people here with this 10 minute kind of just mash up of two windows I'm literally like streaming a window for your box and then I'm just like just got you right in that section of it yeah quality content oh yeah you guys know yeah if we're both low just turn this up there isn't I mean you guys can max this out that's about all we can do at this point unless Brian on his in Jackson's microwave good to me that that's what I'm connect is that worse is that louder now so I mean that's you know good it'll start introducing noise if I do any louder so that's about as loud as I can go people might I don't like changing the settings because of the live stream I do over my channel way it's all set up you like perfecto so yeah okay yeah you always got us yeah you've always got a sort out audio so yeah oh man I can't even I like that's as high as you can go that's crazy I don't know why it's people like I'm watching a video of two men whispering actually let me check something I think I know what it is I think it's in Skype yeah yeah human sky can rank you uh if you do that you'll be careful cuz I just up my mic so everyone's already maxed out their volume to their saying and we're still low okay we'll see I hate it's delayed but we'll see if that actually helps this is I've moved you up I don't know if this is actually you though or if it's just what I'm hearing that I'm turning up I'm just doing the volume mixer right now but that might have been why randomly it'll be a talk show and a QA so like people asking is gonna be torture into Q&A we're gonna this is the first time Greg and I have teamed up so we're gonna do what's best for you guys if you whatever you guys sort of like will sort of start going more in that direction of course just make sure you don't get anything else with the word rection in it you know that's just a little warning yeah but that's the whole thing no we want this to be as like you know as personal as possible these live streams are meant to ya answer you guys questions that's why I always do the QA on my end but it was it yeah but the you know the news stories - I like the introduction of that I know it's it's kind of something a lot of people do but we're ina we're talking about what's kind of bringing in the game stuff as well because you're not like we've played games before right Brian what kind of games you played growing up - Neverwinter Nights and the ones boulders gate like all the good stuff man Age of Empires - there were so many good games Diablo outlet to was pretty epic as well well those times man it's kind of like oh you know as you grow up it's like you get this money finance stress man it sucks yeah I'll go back to being a kid playing video games again you don't have to worry about the world life hardware and what's up that Jar Jar Binks drink hmm hardware and tequila says talk about new cpu-z 390 weird to talk about Z 390 on Brian's channel go check out is your live stream archived already it should be I mean you should be able to check it out go check it out if you haven't we talked about Z 390 a lot it's gonna be announced copy text but we've got thread Ripper 2 and B 450 more and for not on mobile and mobile gaming with these games we're gonna talk a little bit about have you played let's start with that if you play for tonight or pub G on mobile I don't play man that's when you know like for me personally that's what I know my life is hit it's like no way it's like okay why are you not on your PC enjoying your stuff maggot gtx 1080 and you're playing game on mobile phone come on guys no we're enthusiast we know better than this yeah yeah I can say I played pub G on on mobile probably a total of seven or eight times yeah there was the whole thing about like BOTS like the first couple games you play like mainly BOTS and that's why it's super easy and like that's supposed to be their way of kind of keeping you around and make you think that you're good right so you want to keep playing but I just I always feel like I'm playing against bots because apparently people suck on that game like they're trash and then I'm trash like I'm terrible it takes me five seconds to even lock on to a person if he's right in front me because it's just awkward doing it on us on a screen so it's my question is is everyone on mobile limp like do they mix the mobile and the PC players it's just the mobile players it's just mobile I think it's it's a separate thing yeah so everyone sucks like everyone's at the same hotted Roy now if they brought out like a controller you know or something that you could like bluetooth your to your phone and then do it that way that would be something something different I would I would almost be serious about that cuz that's you could totally take that anywhere you want like it's happened a laptop but like you know phone graphics but having the same capabilities you know you limited it a controller or not a keyboard mouse but maybe they'll even come up with that at some point remembering remembering those arm there was a black ops guys on the console and they would be like don't be playing on console but they had a mouse and keyboard and all this gear hooked up and they'll just be going around rack and console scrubs and it was like me it's like go play people on PC as well because the pace black ops 2 PC scene was very competitive that was pretty good people there and of course you just watch them afterwards if you think someone's hacking you just watch them this mobile stuff I don't know like the I guess you could kind of did she ever plays I don't you were big fan of black ops 2 did you ever play the cod zombies like was that like your thing they did you play into that or some people did it was like tags and uh and just deathmatch especially you know that was the tag mode called again when you pick up the oh yeah yeah Killzone was amazing for leveling up like you'd go as soon as you bought the game I'd be like bang straight into all everything up a character get the tags and then after that you'll just play team deathmatch and go around with salt footsteps cuz that was a good thing salt footsteps really makes it more competitive like people sound whore in like pub G especially man it's like sound all these guys a sound whoring on a new level it's like I don't want to damage my ears you know that's me we were playing it just a couple days I might do dad I've got money like my phone's maxed out like I hear footsteps from 500 yards it's beautiful it's over man like in a wandering tournaments if they can limit the volume of a headset so like people can all play on the same level because you have some dudes there yo look I'm ultra sensitive headset oh man I can hear this dude coming from - yeah I've always wondered I never I need to ask Lisa this cuz she still works she still works in that industry I want to ask her if they like I don't know what the limit is - like how level the playing field has to be right do you need the same keyboard and mice like do you need these actually in peripherals do you need the same headset do you even need the same desktop like at the same screen right so if you can control all of that then your you're at your own you know you're your own limitation basically and at some point you're limited by the hardware but you know that's why you like people play with certain mice like they're brand loyal to BenQ or Corsair or whoever because that's all they play with when they go to tournament so it's not just that it's like if you especially if you use a mouse in tournament you've got to use your own if you're using one that's just provided by you so many players will just not even play in that yesterday you can't have someone who's experienced on one set of gear yeah it's like it's like going to a race tournament saying you know you used to driving a 35 GTR around the track yeah here's some Hongdae it's good yeah I won't take your word for that [Laughter] we got some questions though do we want to do a topic first so we can go through let's go through the chat for a couple super chance we'll hit up first Matt Kyle says my thermals are through the roof averaging 94 degrees C on overwatch high 1080p which you recommend getting a new GPU are going for a water cooling solution like an AI oh so he's talking about graphics card temperatures is what you got yeah that's what s what I would ask - like if you got like a 90 to 90 blower cooler like that's perfectly normal operating town so you know like this guy it's gonna hit 90 easy you might even throw a little bit if it's an Nvidia card and you're in a like a budget case eighty degrees is normal like it's not bad is it yeah it depends on your ambient temperatures and everything like people asking for bogans as well and parts hunts as well yeah guys I'm gonna be doing like a tour of Asia I think like just watch the new videos the new videos pay the bills like when I post a new product be like yeah this is the best video ever man in the comments like it give us all watch time because all that money man all the money I make up the new parts goes into the used parts and one of those things I want to do is to Asia you know and do like use parts in the Philippines Vietnam Hong Kong and you know maybe even go to Europe and and UK and and the u.s. may not love to two of these places and just bogan it like really like literally a bogan in the US could you imagine that I might you got this Graham Scout on Craigslist II 200 boxes take me straight up and bring the bogan people love it and a man I I can't do like use parts is so hard to do off its own back you know what I mean that's why I had to start reviewing new parts and all that because these affiliate links is all the products and yeah and user parts - you gotta buy your own stuff right like yeah especially when you're bigger like look guys we review a ton of stuff if we bought everything we reviewed ourselves we would be broke and that's why when people bring up the whole thing about like well you're getting review samples for free you know like you're automatically dude I've taken dumps on products I've gotten for free and from big companies like we're not afraid to do that you know I jump on the as we're sponsoring my channel I took a dump on their back that almost cost me my sponsorship but yeah that's what I'm about like at the end of the day I got into this gig to always give the viewers that biased perspective and now it's never gonna change yeah sure you take sponsorship she takes in built you know in-stream ad so whatever you're signing up for but as long as you you know I asked my viewers time and time again in the past about this as long as you're keeping that review that's what they want to see the honest opinions if you're doing stuff if I got as rock plastered in the background whatever they don't care no one cares about that I got an as rock mousepad to you no one cares you probably see the Ayers Rock logo that's part of the sponsorship agreement give them subtle marketing in the background but yeah and that's the thing people think that automatically you know like sways your opinion so but that's like you just say well what was it the Pro for reviewer so one of the motherboard reviews that you did where you were that you know when your critical yeah 70 profile yeah yeah so you know like that that's something that the way that I see it personally is like you know if a company isn't willing to work with me over one negative review or a review they're not particularly fond of I don't want to work with that company to begin with you know if you're afraid of losing a sponsor or you know a a tech company that supports you with components then because they might be spiteful based on your feedback whether it be negative or just non-existent then you know that's not someone I want to work with anyway I don't want them as a long-term sponsor or supporter so it goes both ways you know we have just as much say-so and what we show on our on our channel as they do in like we run this on our end and it's at the end of the day gonna be for the viewers and if the viewers see inconsistency if they see dishonesty that's it for us you know and so we we favor that we way that way more than we do any sponsor because at the end of the day you guys control whether our channel is even exist at all well for me it's a loyalty thing man my view has put me here yeah I put tech yeah City where it is like my view has always come first I think you'd crap about a company now so I mean like if if worse came to worse than the company stopped sending me product altogether I'll go back to working full-time and do one take your city part-time Wow dude you spots doesn't bother me there's always that used the used parts in the scene is always gonna keep going on on the channel sure I get backlogged with all these new products at the moment I just finish that so we've got some used content coming in the next week yeah like yeah that's what the problem with this stream with me and Greg is we agree on stuff too much we just start disagreeing I agree to the youth though because I I built my channel on selling PCs on sites like Craigslist that was how I was able to keep cycling through components and early on because I didn't get free stuff from companies you know so anyway all right someone said the title is live QA guys not my beautiful conversations with tech yes cities don't swing both ways but in the internet man I play a female character it's so good alright alright wait you say we fired through some questions here let's keep these like let's try to answer these questions in like 30 seconds like 15 seconds of peace just like try to move through em because I want people to feel like they're getting their questions answered let's see let's see I'll just go through some here what is a good what is a good intel build with the gtx 1074 under $1400 can you please read this and give an answer go ahead Brian say it again GTX what is yeah he wants a good intel build with the gtx 1070 for 1,400 us 8400 gtx 1070 grabbed the budget z 370 motherboard 16 gigabytes ddr4 650 watt power supply cuz thats future-proof grab a budget case decent one would be like a I think the silverstone ones are getting harped on about being awesome if you had the budget i go with an air 540 that's me personally and call it a day and then pocket the rests like a knock at the rest seriously 8400 s my it's my choice for gamers if you just want to game 8400 to where it's at because you're gonna save money on your power bill over the long run to I tested that thing it is so efficient are you using that the stream you were tell me you're hundreds of streams in my Mini ITX Rick I'm gonna be using a Computex to edit videos it's like I 580 400 it don't listen to the people who like oh you can get it Rison overclock if you're just gaming it's ring boss it's snappy it's the best for gaming at the moment not only that it works better with lower RAM speeds so you don't have to go out and buy Samsung Bay die price fixed memory and get ripped off so that's just my opinion on him and I ain't gonna beat around the bush and I never beat around the bush when people ask me for honest advice because that's what I would be doing if you've got your rise in opinion or you've got any other opinion go do what you want to do I don't really care drop a hater comment that's what I'd recommend to people that's what I recommend to my friends because it's better at the moment for gaming if you want to do Adobe Premiere / video editing changeover to risin 620 600 X they're both really good see that's where I'm gonna that's where I think I'll start to disagree not because I want to pander the AMD fan base it's a different like I still agree like the 8400 is still a better gaming chip right and people go into this and he says right there right a good Intel build a GTX 970 I'm not sure what he's gonna do with the build I presume primarily gaming but here's the thing like when people say like I only want a game what should I buy and my first thought automatically is Intel right but the thing is if you want to look at it from that future-proof standpoint I have it's just harder for me to rationalize an 8400 when you could get the red team's counterpart give you know give away 10 FPS like honestly like that's about that Delta you're gonna have there you can overclock the sucker you don't need it you know a really expensive board neither do you now for Intel but we had to wait for that and and you know the the second gen rise and stuff is still great with memory it's much better than it was with first gen yeah so I would say yeah asking the question as well he's probably new newark new ish to pc billing yeah it's just tough for me to I don't know it's tough for me to say go with the i-5 only because like that might not be what you do a year from now unless you plan on sticking with this PC for five years like going with something like a 2600 it's not gonna cost you any extra and it's it's gonna to me it's gonna last longer so I almost feel like there's more value in that even though you're not gonna have the best gaming experience put them side by side you know let any of us be the judge I guarantee and nine times out of 10 you're not gonna know the difference between the two but you will know the difference if you decide to stream while game that's the catch like that I go with GPU utilization on the streaming man I guess still again that's the video gotta make I just really no time for it yeah yeah for me GPU encodings like it grabbed you gtx 1070 s got its own built-in encoder man so it's like utilize it i'm to see how that works while gaming though I do that I am like I tested it I am man did you see any like any difference in framerate at all well I was doing blind abies with people man I used all those people in the room as blind abies and people like the GPU encoding was the smoothest yeah that way yeah yeah I don't know man it's one of those things we gotta look into duel I shall fool like investigation you know you know yeah for me I just know my god man I've tried all sorts of streaming for me it's like GPU encode a bang and so if you're serious about streaming right you're gonna want to have good bit rates you don't wanna have good bit rates begin with if you not move to a place where you can get good internet it's like I've been looking for a place to live after this lease is up and I'm seriously basing my decision on where I live solely on my ISPs like whatever I have available if I don't get who I'm with now or somebody as good as when I'm with now which wow is excellent here then I'm not gonna move there I don't care how nice the house is or how you know cheap I just can't do it I'm spoiled with what I have now yeah okay is it what are you getting what are you getting down enough you know 450 down like 44 down and like 12 up so it's doable okay yeah I had that in school ahead of roughly that yeah it's not it's not a big you just notice it really like when you're downloading games on Steam like it just there's a nine-day difference there but uploads that's that's more that's why you usually upload your prioritize a lot less traffic wise in downloads anyway people do a lot more downloading okay I see one here by the way to the answer that question if his graphics I was running to how first thing I would do if you're comfortable with it don't you tear it apart change the thermal paste it sounds like you might have something wrong with that to begin with that would be the first thing I would do just because you don't have to spend any money save some time and maybe a bottle of paste you know that's really about it especially if it's been used on mining they give you buying a card off a minor card would be okay but you've got to change the thermal paste just take it from a duty you used to be used to have a mining rig so really make sure yeah Matt's II asked what type of music do you guys - I'm all about that 80s baby Oh Hades flow I also listen do a bit of like drum and bass as well been getting a bit of that there's some really good mixes out there okay a lot of the news like a lot of the new school stuff that comes out like in terms of the rock and all that really not keen keen on it I just don't hear any passion in the music it's just all like hey I want to make money and that's pretty much what they're singing they even singing in the lyrics - it's like oh now it's never gonna be the same for me even if the lyrics aren't like I'm not I wanna make money it's like you could probably hear if you if you amped that volume up about 10 times you probably hear this guy whispering in the background well I mean you give him credit though it's a lot I don't know exactly how it works but I know that the fact that people can just rip songs from online now and not pay a dime like I feel like that's really gotta her I know they have plenty of like you know they get stuff behind you know behind the scenes they get plenty of ads and and they travel concerts everywhere they sell merch like they have plenty of revenue streams but like I just wonder how heavy like these these bands and these record labels are being cut right financially because of the digital age and the fact that we can get music like I can you could download a song that you listen to on YouTube you know like you can just straight up you seriously you just rip it from YouTube like used to be you had to buy a CD or a cassette tape for that you know like you had no choice but to go through that yeah so I think that's of course back in the day the groups used to make a killing man yeah same time I feel like they deserved now I listen to all these new crap coming out it's like yeah you ask a young 10 year old yo you know who pill Jam is my daddy's right that's why that's that's why I loved it was all I listen to in the car you know like ac/dc scorpions Pearl Jam great white Judas Priest Def Leppard yeah any 80s rock band you can think of I probably listen to their song just because it's yeah you know got some good Aussie bands back then yeah I was listening no more tears a few days ago like oh no okay no I mean yeah I want to hear it after though oh no see okay let's see here our mark Atherton says I just subscribe to both channels appreciate that wait Alexander cute kid rose I don't know if I said that right give a hug for my friend at PC gaming TV Brazil here's your virtual hug thanks for that $10 are super chat whatever our is eric says use parts here in the philippines are not the best so hmm there is one spot like someone said there's one spot in the city so I won't tell me there is a spot in the Philippines it's cracking so you know I'm gonna do India as well man like all these countries that I have to do the two of then and then like I'll immerse myself in the culture you're gonna come along great for the ride I would love road trips oh not right I wouldn't roadtrip India man because this doesn't have like the highest fatality rate on the roads or something in the world okay I mean pause if you're in the car you've got if you're driving your KTAR is pretty high but if you we're in game mode I'm thinking seungji I'm thinking it just like I'm thinking of this helpless pug G character like this dude is just like halt and trying to get out of the way of my Jeep but like I know I got him right just notice that's coming he just sits down it takes a knee and he just takes it you know ninja sauce thanks for that $5 super chair how much more RGB lights do I need to add to my case to win it for at night that sounds like a Brian question how many more how many more RGB lights doesn't need to add to a system to win it for a night oh that's a good question now I'd go thirteen thirteen czar pretty lucky number yeah yeah I mean most strips have like what eight so maybe two strips you're good yeah that's it and that'll really help you win in for nine men yeah so yeah I have I've been scammed on gumtree as quick one yeah I've been scammed a few times is actually probably making a video now sort of talking about getting scammed yeah I've been hosts a few times man it's part of the gig been hosed in Japan been hosed in Australia it's and you know the worst thing about getting scanned is if you're new to buying used parts and you get scammed on your first deal that would really deter you see I didn't get scammed until like about you know at least a good six months in and I was buying a lot of parts so if it's your first deal and you get hosed it's really gonna deter you from the use part scene which sucks just um yeah I don't know but that's I mean if you if you're like it's the first time you don't buy used parts much really just take your time like go to the dudes house and be like yeah I want to see this part working before I buy it whatever Singha 888 how do you feel about the new GT 1030 ddr4 performing at half the speed of the original GT 1030 while costing the same considering the whole GPP fiasco judge you were going to talk about GBP today well me I actually think I was yeah I have a video whenever I kind of just like spill the beans about what they spilled the beans about and there's really nothing I mean the whole GBP thing like I never really wanted to jump on board to begin with about how it just seemed a little shady you know yeah it's it's just look if anything it falls back on whatever country you're in and the laws obviously Nvidia is really manipulating the laws and bending the rules sort of thing to suit their company but I've got some real like insider stuff that I can't share because I've been promised to not share it but this is already going on with other companies not in video it's already happening in the industry yeah so the you know this is just doing a big fanboy circle jerk hate on NVIDIA it is not not the first person to do this crap in the industry it already is happening it's already going on now I'm not gonna say anymore that's all the people I spoke to in real life I've been told stuff in strict confidence but yes already happens already happens and I don't want to lose make blue people lose their jobs you know this crap already goes on and it's sad what I think the problem is and and you know the worst thing is the price fixing thing came out and people cared more about GPP a freaking gaming logo they cared more about that than getting ripped off at the store for like 50 bucks on a full geek a geek it 100 bucks on a 16 gig two hundred dollars on a 32 gig kit people give a about more about a gaming logo than losing 200 bucks on this day to get kids where are people's priorities happening right here I think it was I think Nvidia can it did it themselves because while the RAM price fixing thing right is happening and people experience both high graphics card prices and high RAM prices they experienced it heavily at the end of 2017 we're still experiencing part of that now on both sides I think would I think what pissed me off personally about the way Nvidia did it was that they were so blunt about it like they were just so like hey guys here's this and we're gonna try to pass it off as like it's totally cool like we're totally okay with this you know like and and and we don't see any moral or like you know ethical issue with it and and I really do wonder what would have happened if this it actually played out I mean look AMD had to respond right they kind of force AMD say in here and I wonder how that's gonna if it even fizzles out you know how that's gonna play but I think what I had an issue with was the fact that Nvidia tried to make it seem as though it wasn't going to be you know this like anti-competitive agenda when on the surface it kind of did seem that way I mean it's not a choice like it's an e choice for sure that's what you like in terms of how much it's raising the product costs I don't think it raise it like minuscule at best laugh I was looking at DDR for price fixing first as GPP it's like wow yeah there's a massive difference for the end consumer I mean yeah anyway did you know the saddest thing to come out of all this is do you know like do you agree like do you think the Ares rx 580 looks so freakin cool have you seen it the Ares yeah Ares brand looks good I'm not gonna lie man I love the look at I was like damn I don't have a problem with that kind of differentiation it looks it looks better than Raj man I was like damn like yeah they saw an Aries like next gen AMD stuff gotta come down a little more in price and then and then I'll be on board there I haven't the last graphic skirt I bought was at Best Buy it was the GTX 970 I bought it for 400 bucks reference guard believe it or not it was like in the middle of October dude it was when prices were so high and I saw it on the shelf for 400 bucks I was like there's no way they're gonna honor this these tags are wrong sure enough they did you know I should have bought both of them while they while they were there I could flip one someone someone showed me on Twitter they got like a gtx 1070 machine for like 400 Botley a whole Dell I forgot the deal man but it was just like insane it was like an extra used PC or something and I was so jealous of this deal on Twitter sometime yeah deals man get them deals all about them deals guys always get your deals so we want to actually talk about a topic that oh we're just doing I've got a lot I didn't change the name of the title so it's a Q&A technically which means that we need to actually be like answering a lot of questions really fast if you want yeah we got a we got to just run through some of these here because I feel bad these people are asking all these questions and we're just like sticking with one for 10 minutes yeah let's see yeah do just do quick and dirty round-robin yeah that's what I'm thinking do a budget build stream and setup love you guys content what is your preferred game or program to benchmarks from Richard what do you bench mark what do you love benchmark most if I only had one program five strike bang that's it I only had one program I can use that's true because it's kind of everything in one right yeah that's irrelevant I'd like benchmarking gta5 is like a true game I think gt5 it leverages everything very well efficiently a lot of people think that it was gta4 was a terrible pc port but gta5 to actually optimize very well especially for Nvidia Intel systems there's a bit of a bias there but in general it utilizes resources heavily on on both sides that's what you want to see you know well up in my system you see if you see anything just read him off okay yeah Moses says he's planning to sell my old PC on gumtree will the person I sell it to message me for the next six months every time he has a problem just saying the ad man just say like one week guarantee and that's it that's pretty that's pretty standard for a used PC after that you don't hear about it if it works for a week man it's working especially in PCs PC parts generally work or they don't work especially if someone's been gaming on it for a week or five days they're gonna know if there's a problem so just say look I'll you know seven days I'll help you out and that's it in the ad yeah when I sell a PC it's usually about 30 days because yeah after that and I don't want to be responsible for some dude ripping something out or plugging something in the wrong port and it's happened and I've had guys bought motherboards would be like yo can I get a refund gonna check it out like whoa I know exactly what you did he'll say no way that's a good thing about the used market you got buyers who do dumb you need to say look give me a refund and it's hotter than you if you're selling new parts and you've got like a friend who works at retail over you Mont and he tells me the stories about some of the stuff that I get sent back and it's like wow guys just like you know bending pins and then taking the motherboards back trying to get refunds is like you bend these pins you see like a fingerprint and a friggin socket they don't they technically they do have to honor a refund I think which is sad nanner plant should I get a Corsair h-60 I for a 2600 ex parents been asking this question a while sure to suggest what it's a single that's a 120 mil rad right hey oh yeah aged 60 I spy I think I've owned the age 60 I it's perfect I don't know in what kind of I mean yeah I guess sure if you're looking at that it's gonna be perfectly fine for just make sure it has a M for support because it might not that's something you might need to check out but other than that sure it's perfectly fine ai oh okay let's see here what do you think of the new Nvidia update requesting for data release to meet the EU Privacy Act I'm even heard of that I don't know about that promise yeah no no no after European Union I don't know it's a European thing I've never liked I don't know I'm sorry gtx 1070 case in psu but i'm looking to upgrade my CPU motherboard and ram i want to stream games that's kind of what i don't know what doesn't sorry do you think a be 350 motherboard will be sufficient for rise in future generations if you only need light overclocking and single GPU yeah as long as it's supported at the box maybe 40 i proven one of my videos that the second gen Rison runs perfectly fine on b3 you can even overclock almost equitably on a beat through 50 board that you can with annex 470 so yeah sure i think that AMD in general is gonna be a little more future-proof you make a fine wine on the GPU side and AMD tends to be a little more loyal when it comes to upgrade paths just you know not having to require a new chipset with you cpu compatibility with every board release round-robin round-robin oh yeah get through the questions I've answered a few of them in chat okay cool good luck unite just ask him anything guys what's the meaning of life I'll ask you a question Brian I'm planning on selling my little PC oh no just read that what was that some questions you - reply scroll down let's see here yeah I'm seeing the good stuff going through some noise works - chuffa - tough a choice can you make a mid budget build with an 80 600 k 8,600 kg TX 1060 16 gigs around boom there's your mid budget build I guess that's it you know if it's all up to you if you can get like if you can squeeze out more money for a 1070 do it and the only reason why I'm recommending Nvidia primarily is because right now it's really difficult still to find rx cards and they don't really have anything as powerful as a 1070 apart from Vega 56 and 64 which are virtually unobtainable right now Nvidia cards more efficient man yeah and that's true - yeah they are and I actually prefer nvidia software at this point i actually despite the change in the geforce experience which i hate i love the older one better I still like how easy and just comfortable it is to use shadowplay and I use that for virtually everything screaming screen capture was when will candidly come out please answer there's no official they don't notice no yeah no official would like and I don't even know any rumors yet so I know Computex is well pretty certain there's gonna be a big announcement see 390 and the eight core I'm pretty sure that's hitting at Computex yeah that's all we know for now so not yea I'm not entirely sure what's going on but yeah you're gonna see probably the announcement at the very least of the eight core it can't be Tex stay tuned for that yep so hit me up hit me up with questions hit Greg up with questions let's see here we have just got ak-56 RGB that's corsair right yeah jin kim kim young-ae us a new grabs coddled by a 1060 eyed white man that's because apparently you can't doing the works from a video as well and to be honest NVIDIA even if the doesn't hit Computex even if there's an on announcement at Computex Nvidia are forced to do something pretty soon they're forced to there's no they if they want to keep making money which 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little that two days ago really bro you should make a dedicated video I don't know you did a dedicated yeah yeah yeah I just kind of threw up like hey this exists now you feel like it's worth anything to you yeah my dude that I might do that and respond to that all the video we saw the other day with some dude was calling us out 4s CDKs whatever was you gonna call him out on no maybe I mean he cold like you and me and like a lot of other people out star the video I know tech deals has done it you've done it tech Morrow's don't trying to think this is a very simple topic it's like we checked him out there legit company yeah that guy's bars I know he's legit so it's like that's usually how a marketing deal works they pay us money and we market the brand as long as it's good as long as it can save people money which does I got no problems with it a lot of people - were suggesting even know if seen you do the eBay Keys as well there's like you've got that g2a element there mm-hmm and so you know like it's a reseller thing you like you know means SCD keys a direct that's them getting the keys and then sell them to the public as they're the entities selling the keys suppose the g2a they're the guys just being the platform the marketplace yeah so it's a different it's sort of a different thing altogether and it goes the eBay Jesus sorry cheap man it's like yeah yeah so I think the verdict on the eBay keys they could be legit they couldn't be legit I don't know and honestly I don't want to know so I keep it that way with that CD key I was telling Brian we got because I actually asked him I was like where do you get like where do you get these keys from you know like it a lot of people were saying that they came from stolen credit cards or something like that was like their default g2 way I mean that was something that GT way got blown up for right because that's what people were doing because they were just the platform they were saying well you know this is the buyer thing they're not taking any responsibility for it whereas ste key they've been doing this for I think I believe they told me 10 years they admit it was were a long time if they were selling illegal keys that were obtained by stolen credit cards they would have you know come on they wouldn't still be around they wouldn't be doing exactly what they're doing now we regard this of which country they're operating out of that that would never be allowed to happen so you know we do our due diligence you know up to that point and make sure that we're not promoting stuff that's being stolen from other people beforehand and the idea that yeah we're doing that and that we know that that's what they're doing is ridiculous you know like those those comments were just like just people you know like if you're that worried about it then try your look on ebay for $60 yeah that's not bad it's not bad I mean I try and go down to a 50 if it's USD the greenback's is strong there's some strong dollars yeah so you can probably bottle with that 50 maybe like y'all go to 50 here for you brother and you'd take it yeah yeah that's probably why they do that people like the solid bills right yeah my solid yeah fifty dollar bill like keeping it yeah it's like 50 man you owe the important thing to you got to flash the money right you got to show them the money that's when they know you're serious about it and you you still might have that ten dollar bill in the back pocket right you still might because you don't know you never met this person before well exactly showing things like it could be a massive buff gym dude you know I don't miss this guy here's your ten sixty fun take it take it and jump straight in the car just yeah chin down yeah don't want to get ganked ro yeah you always go for the little Snipes when you know is a good price you can always go just a little snipe yeah that's what I always do and it's funny it's like a lot of people see me do it IRL - I got a guy from Brisbane coming down yeah and we've been hunting pots here on the coast and you know ten dollars saved as ten dollars made man it's just it's it's a part of the deals hunt you know and I guess in ways it's like more fun than anything right that's what the used pot scenes abouts but having the thrill of the hunt sort of thing you ever get worried about like I've learned now to really sauce it out like you've got to sauce it out when it comes to a graphics card especially or a motherboard they're the two you're gonna have them I was just thinking like okay on that topic like if you were buying let's say you were buying like a 780 or something right and you went you went to like some public place let's say you went to like the Walmart right right so so if you even pick a place like that like I recommend it be in public thought I wouldn't do it you know unless you have someone with you in a place that's private just in case because you you shouldn't trust people like that but let's say you take like a generator and then you take like a like a PC and you just have it sitting in your trunk right and then this guy shows up he's just expecting you to give the money and you go right but you fool really all right give me one second here I gotta do my due diligence and you pop open the trunk of your car preferably an SUV and you just like crank start this generator just pop that card in and give it a run right there in front of them no it's not you know it's not you don't trust that seller you just don't trust anybody like upfront you know just just it's it's just it's you're only doing yourself a favor when you when you go to lamps like that oh and you know that's probably little ridiculous to do that man closet haters to do in closet haters that'd be nice to your face but you never behind their back behind your back the talking and that's the thing like usually you know what people are doing that I had a guy ask what cases are you and I using right now what's what's the case you're using in your personal rig was it your case what case you used on your piece o s7 forty and the only reason he's a seven forty over the five forty s because got the door I like the five forty better but this everybody's got the door so I can change GP you over for a quick test on the 8700 K so yeah that's how about you what's your case of choice the one I use the most is the mesh if I see I think my favorite case and I said this in the video and my favorite case got to be that the Li and the O 11 dynamic so far I really love the way that one is Linley I every time I think of that case man's like crazy money yeah how much do you have to drop for that oh dude it's not it's like it's cheap man let me see he's under 200 yeah it's I'm pretty sure it's yeah 129 for you guys so you get tempered glass on the front on the left side you get a stainless steel body I'm pretty sure they moved away yeah yeah all the acidity on the whole chapter let's see let's do that go to a camp gaming he says boxed Radeon r9 290x for 150 if that's USD its it's borderline man if it's a custom job mm-hmm it's up to you if it's a custom r9 290x yeah if it's a reference I try and shave a few off it it's gonna be loud too right I mean it's a ready blower yeah this is a leaf blower man I go down to 130 yeah era of 756 what's everyone's favorite car do any of you have a favorite car big fan of the BMW e46 m3 okay good choice good choice what about you Brian what's your favorite ride at the moment the favorite car would be the ones who for Spyder from fear hey Bob yeah that reasons being reasons being did please explain this one moral come by after Computex old sort of talked about you know I've got a new car I did pick it up on a real good deal like we're talking real good deal man so I everything I touched his deals man food I even go down go down it like yeah go down the markets at 6 p.m. pick up four sausage rolls for $4 a strain which would be like three USD they got four buckets of Chinese for 20 Australians like 15 USD man I'm picking up deals wherever I go deals deals yeah a lot of people don't do that dude seriously don't spend more money just for ease right because it doesn't take up as much time to set up something it doesn't take I see how much people spend on cell phones like the kinds of late contracts look at themselves on how much they pay per month dude I use I use prepaid everything like I'll get you know I have the best carrier but like I do prepaid all of it because and I'll buy a second-hand phone because yeah I'd rather say a generation or two behind and you know save $500 in the long run yeah damn shop dude I feel guilty now man if he's on a budget he's donating money I mean do you want the money back dude oh I have to donate money is if it's if it's a seat you to man a solid dude yeah whose mates really good coolers on that 290 X's and 390 Fe specially yeah they really stepped up their game then yeah I'd go all for that but I try and still do a little snipe man he doesn't hurt to try and drop in a 135 or something something tactical like he's one he's asking 150 no one pays asking for us and I mean been questioned about secondhand parts OEM 128 gig SSD from Samsung for 30 bucks good deal I would say yeah if it's secondhand he's asking about a secondhand 128 gig brand new 120 s for like 30 bucks on Amazon or ollie man that's brand new yeah I think here in the states you can get him 120 gigs were about 40 yeah I just did a video like in the story my and showed a couple of 120 gigs what what brands for those some random brand be still get warranty yeah yeah yeah at that point I usually I make sure the right speeds aren't trash because that's what a lot of them will typically do is they'll have decent reads they'll be at around 4 450 right but then the rights will be 175 right there's a huge disparity there I just don't want to be limited to hard drive right speeds or you know it's the okay random raid and rods you looking at differences between the two man that's why I did these store in mind you're like so you games load and the reason they load fast is because all those little files load quicker on the SSD it's all the little files the big chat the big files man they can still load fast on the hard drive yeah that's what you sequential reading rights before I would question them I would question almost whether or not like that you know how they say when like when they acid-wash a CD or an SSD or something right they have those programs that will write entire 120 gig files to fill up the entire partition and then they'll delete it and they'll rewrite it like 10 times right to clear all the data because when you delete something you're not deleting the actual data it's still there it's just waiting to be overridden by some else so when people sell drives like that they they're worried about their data being compromised right because you can you can buy a hard drive and dig into all that stuff that hasn't been overridden yet and that hurts the longevity of the SSD alone right there just acid washing it so oh you could do was it a 0 pattern ride or something it doesn't yeah how you do what program you do it with yeah you've got to know your shoes to really restore a data that's been deleted like it's not easy especially if you're very formatted to drive a few times so I mean yeah I don't know have you ever restored data that's been deleted and flashed no there is why not when it's been overwritten when it's been overwritten it's gone that's that's when you have like data recovery software as long as that data hasn't been touched by any other file that you install subsequently on that drive it's you know 99 times out of 100 recoverable but when it's when it's overwritten even partially overridden by some other file that it becomes very difficult cuz a lot of that data is just stored on random parts of the partition and then they they kind of group them all together to form the file when it's recovered and it's tough to do that when fragments are missing yeah Wayne Pritchard for that super chat chat try and snag a 980ti for under $400 or grab a 1070 whenever they are available I grabbed a Goretti I already got an ID I'm doing a build this month like you know like a week there'll be a 99 atti bill coming I got one for 350 yeah AUD which would be like 280 us 410 980 - yeah that's what I would pay I would say it's about 300 300 be my target price for that because you're gonna get night you're gonna get 1070 performance there you're just not gonna get the same efficiency right the power dude say hello to Mario he's just he said he's a sponsor he wants a hello from you Mario wants to be recognized thanks I appreciate that thanks for telling me I would have completely missed that on the topic I was not yeah thank you recognized Mario oh he's gonna love this yeah it just sponsor my channel down best boy had a 1070 for 400 bucks I wonder well that's Mario Soto different Mario well we have to Mario's ya know Best Buy did I actually mentioned that earlier Mario I bought a 1070 from Best Buy for 400 bucks and it was in the middle of everything when all the prices were just inflated like crazy so yeah that's that's definitely a place you should look you know Justin just to cross it out in your mind so you're not wondering there's a fight between the Mario is in the comment section I love it keep going sponsored Mario go at each other use your super powers to get fractal to make it define our six size metruff I hope you stick to Saturday nights for this show great content by the way alright so the mesh if I oh I see we saying okay so the define or six size measure fly meaning he wants probably that extra space right between the motherboard and are you familiar fractal cases have you reviewed or built in fact okay yeah the ah stakes I did the optics and that was it yeah it's a big it's a big case you lot in it yeah okay yeah I know you guys over in the state's a fanboy in the Mesha fire yeah I like destroyer I like the focus G that's like yes yeah focused she was like my kind of thing from fractal but yeah over there yeah you guys just hop on about mesh if I'm if I see mesh you're fine actually yeah a lot of I've done it too i I love that case I think I think it's great value it prioritizes everything that should be prioritized it's just a little it's just a tiny bit too small that's the only thing I just think it's a little too small because there are some graphics cards right you put an AI o between you know the graphics card it right in the front of the case but the mesh refine our in terms of how deep it goes that sometimes you can't even fit a graphics card in there with I own the fans it's just one of those issues how we running on time Brian we doing all right yeah yeah sorry just got it no you're good you just wanna make sure we're not dragging about 20 minutes I got I got 20 more minutes oh that's cool oh yeah no problem yeah I'm feeling we're doing this for what an hour and a half now no guys no topics is cute live Q&A ask Greg anything don't ask me anything yeah you got a question that you're free Brian this is good I surprised you don't get like more personal questions like yo Greg like when are you getting married and stuff like that like cuz if I said ask me anything over my channel people would they just thought going dude that's good yeah the ones who are willing to tune in to live streams usually they're pretty awesome they ask questions that are pertinent to the topics we discuss usually on the channel and that's that's all I'm really looking I can ask personal questions to I I try to stay away from there really like you know I'm just like the ones that are just for me you know but like Jay Jay Moss is that Jamie Jamie asked what happens during an RMA okay so you you go back to the manufacturer that you the retailer sorry usually you go back to the retail if they make you send it to the manufacturer directly that's so dodgy go to the retail sale its products broken then the retailer will initialize the returned to the manufacturer get you a new product then you go pick it up from the retailer and that's I've actually just got a power supply that did that so I'm gonna get to pick that power supply up on my Monday or something so yeah there's that's how an Ironman usually works is the thing about it is the worst thing about RMA is your without that hardware for a couple of weeks and it sucks because you bought that piece of gear you should be out of here and you're entitled to use that um and that's what I found sucks about arm a and yeah I don't know that's yeah arm a sucks you know I I kind of can't like I almost can't blame it's really I mean I but I can't blame them even I can't even blame a blaming for saying go to the manufacturer like I know it's kind of like they're just passing the buck right but like at the end of the day don't don't they have the right to because they don't manufacture it right thing is if you if you have them RMA then they got to go to the manufacturer themselves that are they just keep the cost of the project and money off the manufacturers product sure thank God sure and that's that's the last line of business that you dealt with yeah yeah but like I have a problem with my car do I go to the dealer that I bought it off where do I go straight to the Audi headquarters in Sydney you know it's yeah but those are still affiliated with like they have direct hires like the retailer it's just he here's a retail this is all a retailer is a retailer has an online infrastructure more than like Amazon let's say but then they have huge warehouses for basically anything you want and and they say hey we have empty warehouse space we have real estate send us your stuff we'll put it online we'll sell it for you we'll take a cut we'll take a storage cut and that's it call it a day right oh yeah that's more drop shipping than well no retailers though there's a big difference between retailers and manufacturers though I mean retailers do have warranties but though it depends on how the warranty is negotiated with the distributor with or with the manufacturer you know cuz if I just tell you let's say I go buy 10 cameras from Samsung and I decide to put them all online and act as a retailer like if someone comes back to me and says my camera's broken you know I want another one and I'm sitting on only two more cameras in inventory I'm gonna have to go back to Samsung and get them to send me another camera because I'm not gonna have enough to do you know unless I'm willing to eat the cost of that one unit to keep a satisfied customer which would that would be something to debate but I don't know I it's tough it's tough yeah I kind of just I just disagree with you I know I had to really stretch for the stuff but I'm glad today post-apocalyptic Peter with high airflow fans or the other kind be better in the Mesha fly no hard drive cage in right now also thoughts on GPU all-in-one yeah do you want to talk about you mentioned fly yeah sure yeah the metro fires GPU all among works that's what it works it's just a cap on how much hassle an extra cost you want to spend because most GPUs come with really awesome coolers anyway so yeah for me it's kind of like not worth it the if and or' to how loud it'll be yeah this is like a H 110 on a CB you can pull that from build to build to build to build build you know usually a GPU old ones not so portable and it's a pain in the ass to install it is yeah it definitely is even if you want to do yeah the only ones for sure like a g12 like an NZXT kraken like though i've done that it's it's a little bit of a pain it takes a lot longer than just and start like plug and play a graphics card with respect to the mesh if I I will say yeah I mean if used higher flow fans you know high static pressure fans will work perfectly fine in the mesh if I see I don't think - do the high static pressure fans in something like the define C or the define are six with the blocked off front panel not gonna be as effective there because the airflow has to turn remember 90 degrees to get into the case and then if you have a radiator in front of that as well then you're definitely cutting back on the ability for those fans to pull on air so a 540 baby yeah you have to do anything with that case you just put your word and you just experience yep gracious beautiful temperatures and low noise Elijah Stricker what's up Greg saw your RAM pricing video loaded do you think waiting for the lawsuit comes in hopes of price drops would be a smart move before buying RAM kits building in June with 16 gigs ok we should probably highlight like we should talk a little bit about what this lawsuit actually is because clash class-action lawsuits aren't like class-action lawsuits aren't the government going to the coming to the company and saying hey you guys are doing this is wrong we're gonna find you Bob Loblaw class-action lawsuits are usually you get like just a bunch of important people or important entities yeah they all hang out right HP Dell all those guys gonna be against Samsung in this law I guarantee you yeah because they're huge fires of RAM that's people I think about that you know they're huge buyers are fram because they have so many PCs and and other things to send out well not only that it's affecting the sales of their PCs they're now gonna mark their Tracy's up and people have a buyers threshold they're not gonna say like they want to buy a PC for 900 bucks and there Frank got a PC a year ago with the GTX 10 zz4 900 bucks it's like well I want that no I can't get it now it's $1000 you know and so that deters them from buying that's a sale loss for HP and Dell and then they're getting really peeved off about that costing them money when it costs people like their money and their big corporations they're gonna get look let's go to town and get all these damages off these lost sales from Samsung and that's what happens it's they've already been done for price fixing this is how bad it is I hope this time they get fine so much more because they've already been guilty of this in the past yeah yeah micron Samsung guilty of this crap and it's like man they I hope the hammer comes down on them hard this time cuz it's so bad disgusting and say yeah you know GPP is more important guys gaming okay I I do I do agree though I think that there's I think there's they're they're definitely profiting more off yes big-time they ever would have often a sheep like there's no there's no equation at all that balances both of those GBP the real reason but GPP is to stop Intel when they come into the GPU market which they are we know Intel's coming in is to have more market shares to have that gaming mind share mine shares a big thing these companies are fighting over my chair all the time so Nvidia want to build that up yeah they want to build up that gaming in video gaming and video associations and when Intel drops their R&D which is gonna be huge when they drop their GPUs in a few years time anybody's gonna be like well we're already the established gaming brand that's the pitch with GPB and honestly like as much as I don't like GBP if you were working it in video that's a smart play yeah you know it doesn't age through there aren't that's all you know one last thing I will say about about the lawsuits these class-action lawsuits are not they're not criminal core cases they're they're civil and the burden of evidence is on the people who are filing the suit right those who are bringing on the civil case so you know you have to find solid evidence that they are in it in ways that they've worded stuff yeah they're gonna have to do through there's a ton of stuff that they have to do to prove this okay I think it's happening I think it's pretty obvious that it's happening why you have to find the evidence because they're innocent until they're proven otherwise so that's what takes so that's what takes a long time I don't know if you should just wait though I don't know if waiting for RAM prices to drop is an ideal thing because you might be waiting a long time and people were asking about like if they expect payout it's like if they're gonna get anything like you're gonna get maybe I think it came out in 2006 to like a couple bucks a person like it was not you know it was nothing substantial don't count on getting some money back into any substantial amount from from these you know these companies that are literally priceg out hey Mario Mario donated a hundred Mexican dollars and he said Mario Silla said ask Greg if he knows why started watching your channel he'll get red-faced Mario Silla he says he knows he's got some dirt on you many nice person he says I'm Mario from Apple I don't think you remember but I asked you but i but i can ask a few personal questions Mario is yeah yeah he was on a you know we used to do live streams with Google Hangouts we just actually bring people like personally into the live stream oh yeah sketchy yeah Mario was one of the guys that was on that and he he does he works for Apple he was giving us the inside scoop on Apple sales and whatnot letting us know how he didn't say anything like super DL confidential it was just more or less just like how their sales try stuff we could have looked up online if we had dug deep enough he was pretty forthcoming about how their sales were going especially locally like in a country like Mexico like you know we think about how it is here in a country like Mexico still developing you wonder how sales for expensive products like that are doing in countries like this so he provided some pretty unique insight yeah what's going on Mario yeah I will say one thing I've just realized one problem like I've said in chats I Jag's has said I ordered some JC extreme it's amazing right and I said it's amazing but the problem is like when we start taking sponsorships from Azeroth Coursera what it like dudes if people feel like when I say now GC extreme is amazing do people feel like oh he's just sponsored he's gonna say it's amazing because he's sponsored and like I have absolutely no contact with gelatin absolutely not at all I just tried their products amazing so do you think in ways people sort of think oh he's just sponsored to say that so we just become this sort of channel that gets rich pushing products apparently that we're sponsored by do you ever feel like we get that reputation or whatever and yeah I've got to get you to do as Elon billed as well oh yeah I'm the last one I've done Zeon build was it was a new it was just an alternative to the i7 yeah I'm gonna do that I want to do that little tape you know I'm saying that they don't appreciate just want to say I've watched you for a long time love the way you analyze things well thank you differently than the typical you know approach to talk because I feel like there's so many of we were just talking about there's so many people now trying to do the same thing you know you gotta find like Brian sling for sure and I think he'll tell you this too Brian's is the deals he's trying to find the best value stuff he goes out and build to use pcs all the time that was how I started that was the first thing I ever watched on his channel four or five years ago it was yeah how do I get your channel going how long for a long time but I decided when I started doing that Cisco potato is gonna actually try B seriously I was actually gonna try and make proper content right because alls it the styles right the stage was gonna quit YouTube I was like okay I've had a bit of fun here it's been fun that then I was like okay I gotta go either one way or another because I was doing late you know I was probably making like a couple hundred bucks a month off YouTube and that was in I was like it's really no career choice here or anything like that and I was like why don't I just give it like my own you know what I mean I'm Javad stuff like that I'll Keough go really harder than see what I can do and I just thought to put my love and my heart and soul in doing people just like loving it like buttons like button blowing up out of control people loving the content sharing it all that good stuff and yeah became profitable and and then just kept doing and now we're here years later yeah by my channel grows slowly like it's a slow growing movement but you know I've got a lot of loyal peeps around the channel who have followed me for years and my boyfriend's like IRL as well all their friends you know talked a lot on the Internet it's really more of a community thing I think my channels become a strong community if you come to me you're gonna get a very cynical approach if you want the cynical approach I'll give it to you I don't I don't blind all that circle jerking crap that goes on I never have and so that's what I guess I see a bit on my channel just do whatever you do and do it with passion and yeah she's gonna keep KP Killman so yeah and Frank pallone we talked about joke you know joke it and I had a good live stream it was a good thing going on you know people used to love that show they and even friends in real life said do that show was cracking and it was yeah was cracking like Joker knows it was cracking to joke if you're watching you know that show was good I knew it was good but he went he went messed it all up in I was on that show on stream is like dude there's gonna be a limit to this crap man so how's any company gonna take you seriously when you when you're literally pulling the ball on live stream and you know I try to play along he's like you know ha ha ha but really in the back of my mind I'm thinking you know this is a bit full-on dude like you know intel has always been anti-competitive Oh Marius oh dude cheers man Silla dude still is gonna pick this up man so does just like on another level man yeah thanks so dude awesome gene Olson let's see here someone says people need to stop posting stupid on Craigslist have you watched have you watched any of my I read Craigslist videos or anything like that yeah like watch one I am honest I have a lot of time to watch contacts make contact what's your GDR thing DD our price that's good legs finally make noise about the DD l for price fixing not the GPP no it's way more of an issue for us as enthusiasts ddr4 memory is crazy it's killing a lot of builds men you know when the mine is when the mining thing came out that was killing prizes too so I offered alternatives by some use parts a couple more questions here I know Brian's gotta head out soon so do I maybe like two or three more questions so give them the good ones give me give us a good stuff yeah give me good talk more dude I'm not taking over your stream no dude you're good it's about time someone else hears a voice other than my own on this stupid livestream thing yeah do it do it man coalition's amazing yeah dude what is a bogan like in a nutshell it's like your version of the redneck okay rednecks are more like like nationalist sort of things yeah rednecks are very conservative usually Meagan is just like doesn't care about anything like boats just like whatever I want to drink everyday that's all bogan games like a like a like a seventies hippie type thing it's like a libertarian type ideology like just like bogans is very I'd say more yeah on average there'd be more right wing and left wing for sure but they just don't care about politics all they care about is cricket and beer but that's your typical bogan wife beater and you know very very anti-feminist so bogan is very anti-feminist okay yeah I mean literally live in an area like I live in an area called redneck Riviera which if there's any similarity which it sounds like there is I understand exactly exactly what you're talking about and there's a difference between a redneck and conservative we've got like the what's called Soundlink right it's like the doll we call it a doll it's like welfare right public welfare yeah and it's like dude in Australia it's generous man people just like don't want to work and they'll just go live on this crap and it's okay life you've if you've been in work for three years and you suddenly get shafted that's what it's there for it's there to help you transition from a job yeah you know what I mean but people abused it they're like oh man I can't work and they just like live off this yeah I know I agree there's definitely and the argument yeah here is how much how many people actually are abusing it and I think that there are certainly people that do I have in a way I almost don't blame them though I mean like if they're a lot you know if they're able to figure out how to do it and that's a problem with the system right I mean it's a that's an enabling thing with system is then you got so many people with politically correct oh you can't block him off from welfare yeah it's something that you they're they're both both sides of that argument you can't really argue with those people and those kinds of topics it's really difficult to convince either that you're not trying to be a jackass or that you're not trying to be you know just a zealot for the vote or whatever yeah exactly there's people who generally and there's people who generally need it and that's the thing is like you gotta keep it for the people who generally nativist yeah sentence Center link the dull aka sentence you will find a lot of bogans there they go again so like location wise where are they like and northern Australia they're about half an hour up north like they shipped him all off from the gold coal a dude I heard this is true in America right like literally in when I was in LA I heard stories of the government having people like how to get rid of homeless people was just to get him a bus ticket and some food and put him on a bus and ship him up to Seattle and do remember went to Seattle man it was I was like whoa what's going on here turn left there's a homeless dude turn right then like at the hardware store I went to get some materials and it was like walking dead man it was like they wouldn't even need to go pay act as they could just get some IRL footage and they would have walking dead like it was nuts was like when all these homeless people the dáil oh man I'm like so that's how you fix homeless problems they in the states just shift them on a bus well it's probably it's probably the state of California that did that California poet said hey guys a free bus ride we're gonna hop on and that one-way ticket you ever hear we should I get the G takes ten Eddie or wait I have a 1063 kick now look if you want to wait wait I can't we can't answer that question for you like you you are the you know your feelings better than anybody if you're content with what you got now stick with what you got now if you desperately need something and get something you know like I don't know how badly you need it so I can't answer your question problem is way humans you never contend with what yeah you always want more man that's why if you want something but don't eat it you don't need it like don't buy that's what you're going to use Pacey Potts building you lose money you don't really lose money if you know what you're doing you make money the use parts building is like to satisfy that I've got to build something every couple of weeks and just happy to find and try things new yeah don't deal with new parts man unless you like unless you've got like that hole you can go you can you know whatever you can get the distribution rates and stuff and even then distributors will charge you like you they want orders of like a thousand CPUs or whatever a 584 last questions - I 580 400 risin 2600 which is better it's very simple question like again I've said we mean Greg talked about this earlier in the show me I'd go with gaming I'd go 8400 if you're a gamer just straight up ring bosses King efficiency of I 580 400s King as well horizon 2600 is good as well but I feel that stealth cool or let sit down so you'd want to get an aftermarket cool and then overclock it in that case it's great if you want to do anything else but gaming very simple but I've done more testing to pretty much solidify that recommendation of you know it's a very cut and dry recommendation but that's usually the evidence even they're more like thousand FPS evidence is beginning to support that - to be there I would say 8400 Schouler is pretty limiting - dude I've got a four cause I've tried all the four cores gaming man like who buys who goes and buys a 1080 t iron 8400 I wouldn't recommend it you know go get an 8700 k if you're gonna get a 1080 GI you know you're going with a mid-range card gtx 960 and probably in a couple years time you can upgrade your mid-range card 8400 still gonna be absolutely fine mark my words will come back in a couple years time and whatever the mid-range graphics card is will pair it up with an 8400 versat make it you know do it comparison for the 2600 in two years time and just see how it goes because I'm putting my money on 8400 still going to beat it in two years time what do you reckon as I mean let's put like we've got to put our predictions on the table and then the winner gets whatever ja ja Mago son oh that's worth it all right I'm going hard the pain here basically just the long-term viability of both I think is games I think people have been saying for the longest time that games are gonna slowly move on to fully six core utilization fully core utilization like we've been talking about this for a long time extra cores so much better for the future but like when is that actually gonna get here you know other than a few games that I can count on one hand that utilize more than four cores successfully when is that gonna get here yeah they like the argument though is that when it does matter it's gonna really matter and I think that there is a place there is French cause again argue in the mid-range call video graphics are you gonna go out and buy eleven attr with an 84 loss are you talking about graphics card or AG text wait e time a gtx 960 yeah so like a ten sixteen ninety four two years time to ten sixty is gonna be all the ten seven he's gonna be you know i mean oh yeah I think that'll be a limiting factor before the CPU is but it'll only be the limiting factor for four games lot more games for kid I'm gonna disagree with the it part of it I really look there's no doubt the i5 8400 to the best it's the best of the two for gaming on almost every game out there I've tested this I can confirm it as well Bryan's tested it we know they for hundreds but my argument though is that is the marginal improvement or boost and framerate justifying a lack of multi-threading is it justifying a lack of or of applicability is it justifying you know the the the healthier upgrade path that AMD generally provides to its consumers they've been doing that since the release of summit ridge it's it's ring boss man and that's unnamed what you're gonna find is I better get going soon just a sec a loss alright last thing its ring bossman snappy and it's gonna be better when the game engines respond it's snappy ring bus versus infinity fabric now that second gen risin is so much more compatible with a higher frequency ran out of the box X and P profile right second-gen any of the CPUs I've tested from rising 2nd gen boom X and P easy and I've tested like 6 Ram kits it's so much better and because of that the framerate is jumping up so much higher especially if you can hit 3030 20 microts but with pretty low cash Layton sees that that's the limiting factor for the Infinity fabric it's not you know the ring bus is fast anyway because it's not tied to memory in the same way that the Infinity fabric is but because we have the fast RAM support now with the second gender Aizen I think that that the argument for the Infinity or for the ring bus is just not there anymore I think it ultimately now comes down to just frequency and you know once Rison hits that 4.5 4.6 mark mark my words unless Intel's passing 5 or they got some totally new node that's pushing out some serious frames there's gonna be a neck-and-neck compa there already is neck-and-neck competition okay so Mario's like dude he thinks you're really cute I like Maher is gay he's like he I mean and there thank our guest Bryan who I was a guest on his show anyway thanks everyone for watching I have no idea how many of you were watching 250 ish right now thank you to those who decided taking time out of a Saturday night or Sunday morning afternoon to watch the live streams we'll be doing this basically every Saturday or Sunday from here on out with the exceptions of what's coming up with copy Tex hopefully Bryan wasn't scared away by you guys yeah we're pretty sweet this train is good man we keep this up so like this was very like the opposite to my stream we talked about topics and then we just went full-on person I think I think that's better I think we should do the tie I think if you want to do this we should just do the new stories on your channel because you've been doing that you're comfortable with that and I can just kind of fill in and then we come over here and we just do Q&A so that's what I've been doing yeah I know because we might do the patron or sponsors stream like whatever if you want life you still can't stay up who cares we can keep going and just a little bit of a bonus you know oh yeah this is like going I or L this is when we stopped going like behind the scenes and you know talking about you know like Brian you've been on tinder lately and Greg what's yeah not not tinder anyway now I'm gonna dig myself out of that hole tonight thanks for sticking around Brian we will