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LIVE Q&A | Nvidia Preps for Launch?! - Science Studio After Hours #21

2018-08-19
and what is going on everybody on this Sunday night slash Monday morning depending on where you live on the planet this is after hours our 21st live stream hard to believe we've done 21 of these now and we skipped on quite a few opportunities because of holidays and other things having it on Sunday nights kind of weird but seems like every other tech tubers claimed another day of the week so we're stuck with Sunday's and I appreciate those of you who have decided to tune in what's going on Cody so like I see trucker bomb and mean Ben no regrets with a Z it's spelling Wesley Dalton what's going on folks so I changed a title this video in a last minute I want to talk a little bit about the Nvidia launch coming up or supposed it in video launch we know they're gonna say something at games con that's happening well tomorrow or today depending on where you live and so we're gonna kind of speculate a little bit talk about what I think based on the stuff that I've seen we should expect performance wise from the new architecture and you know efficiency stuff like that and we can really look at jumps in the past as well I'd like to do that kind of see the progression of efficiency for one right with how efficient Pascal was over Maxwell that was a huge leap I think that was even more noteworthy than just the performance jump overall from max what Pascal in the same price category so for 400 bucks right that used to be GTX it's hard to remember 970 980 territory 400 bucks now gets you at 1070 and in some cases at 1080 and that is a huge jump forward I mean it's an enormous gap in frame rate differences right between those two cards just from one generation alone I'm gonna granted this isn't you know an incremental thing we see every year right in videos been on this architecture for what three years or so so it's not like Intel kind of refresh in the same crap every single year and having marginal increases we see big increases typically with graphics card launches and I expect this one will be significant definitely significant yeah see alright Victor says 1070 was 65 percent faster than 970 and I believe it the 970 was a pretty amis a good card at the time I had like three or four different 970 uses and back before I could ever get a graphics card for free so I was buying all these and selling them and flipping them a lot of stuff but yeah 970 was good for 1080p middle-ground 1440p had to drop some settings and then I remember I had a 980 TI and that was just that was like double 970 performance and a 980 TI is very comparable now to a 1070 so in a 970 I or 980 TI cost what 650 bucks $700 MSRP back when it was the big thing so yeah I think this will be really cool to watch unfold over time and you know we're gonna see the initial launch of sorts they're gonna announce it they're gonna talk about it try to hype it up and stuff we're not sure when these things will actually hit the market but there's always some degree of you know like there's this waiting period where they're trying to again build up the hype so professor says what do you think the architects 20 70 and 20 I did going are going to be I think that's what you meant to say I if you're talking about performance I think the 20 70 I mean I think we're gonna see a comparable jump in performance to that of maxvill to Pascal I don't think I'm not seeing like a huge you know like double the performance of a 1070 and a 20 70 I don't see like that that to me is just too far-fetched and looking at this stuff that we have in these graphics cards assuming you know we don't even know for sure if they're going to have the components that we talked about in our previous touring architecture video right so having the tensor cores and these just AI cores that are supposed to improve things like ray tracing and stuff that developers aren't even utilizing and mass right now because most cards on the market can't I mean they don't even come close to being able to rate trace properly so you know even if these cards did have that you would never be able to utilize that horsepower effectively in modern games so I don't see Nvidia doing that I don't see them throwing I mean even like tensor cores in general I don't think we're gonna have tensor cores in and just mainstream RTX cards if we do I don't I mean tensor cores in general are not designed to benefit the average gamer there the way that they work it's it's all talked about in the tensor court video but in a nutshell that architecture is only gonna benefit I mean truly benefit things like may I modeling stuff like that prediction analyses all of that stuff is better for AI computing but not necessarily better for the average gamer Danny you're asked about what ray tracing is I literally have a video on that came out this week so scroll back three videos in the timeline and you can watch the rage facing video we talk about what it is and how the current touring architecture you know works with ray tracing how ray tracing is benefited by the architecture and why it is so difficult to actually do on a graphical level let's say trucker bottom says thoughts well ray tracing put AMD out of the GPU business in three to five years no I don't think so I don't think I mean I think the competition is it's missing there's a there's like there's a big gap I think in the higher end cards competition-wise between the two and video obviously dominates the higher end market when it comes to gaming graphics cards like a ton 7010 8010 atti titan on that stuff we have vega 56 and 64 but good luck finding one that's available I mean now you can find them and they're pretty comparably priced to their nvidia competitors but the launch was terrible looking back on that the launch was just not planned well there was there was no supply really of them I think they were underwhelming from a performance perspective we think people overhyped them there was a lot of stuff going on around that launch that just plagued it from the start and he says that's how I saw it and I was able to benchmark the Vega 64 guy still have it I haven't used Vega 64 since I've gone and I got the a IO version you know what's a radiator and stuff but I haven't used it personally since then because for one I don't like all-in-one graphics cards I think they look weird and second I mean most of what I do video editing and stuff that I'm benefited by CUDA acceleration right that's in video obviously so I you know using video cards I'm kind of I can have no choice if I want to extract CUDA benefits and programs like premiere pro so yeah Victor says I'd love to see Envy link-based SLI and it does look like I know we saw a leaked carp we're not sure what it was some people were thinking it was the eleven eighty then we switched it to like the RT X 2080 or whatever we're not sure yet we'll find out I'm sure very soon but I expect that with the higher bandwidth demands of the new architecture we will have to move to something else I haven't looked specifically at the limits the bandwidth limits of SLI I don't know for sure I know we used to use just one strip now we have to use two strips height you know the high bandwidth SLI bridges and stuff but I'm sure we're approaching that boundary soon if we haven't already and that's where NB link comes in so we'll do more in-depth analysis on that once we get more details let's see okay this is a good question here killer phobia asks how much of a price drop do you think the current graphics cards will experience I don't expect it'll be much different again the last generation there's really I mean yeah this is you know big advancement whatever you want to call it you know this this new architecture is totally different than last gen and but they always say that right I mean I think at the end of the day you're gonna see a big bump in performance obviously if not people would be very disappointed in video stock would probably plummet or at least partly because of the fact that gamers were disappointed in their hardware again we have the mining decline that's also playing a role in it as well so there there are a lot of things to consider I think in general though we'll see steady price drops across the board down to maybe for example a 1070 costing roughly 300 bucks or so I don't see 10 70s going for anything less than 300 bucks for the next one or two years I think while Turing over to this next architectures next generation of gaming cards exists as the forefront of my videos gaming lineup I don't expect a 1070 will cost less than 300 bucks and I think let's see and I think the 1080 for example no less than maybe 350 400 obviously they can't cross over each other that'd be weird 10 60s as low as 200 bucks so maybe a hundred $250 price drop that's about it it's not going to drop much more than that and people would gladly buy the you stuff if they could those you know for those prices so it's gonna work its way down slowly all again based on supply and demand let's see I saw a good question up here okay scrolling up okay let's see mark and puffs is mining is not dead just resting and I never said it was dead don't know why I said that but it's it's on decline marking mining in general is on decline that is a fact but it's not dead of course it's not let's see twisted ninja at science studio going back to pre stream what do you think the actual manufacturing costs are for say like a k95 platinum okay shifting gears for a second so keyboards I was talking about keyboards there is a certain company that was entertaining a thought of doing a two hundred dollar review or $200 they're not paying for the review it's a two hundred dollar keyboard that they want me to review and so they told me the price up front and I'm kind of just I don't know yet like a you know two hundred dollars for anything is a lot of money and I'm just not sure if that's gonna be that was a cat Pepsi wait what did you just knock over is everything still working she just like knock something over and it's there's a long cable on it what are you doing huh she's looking at me all innocently right now but she knows she did something wrong I figure it out if the livestream cuts off randomly it's the cat she stepped on the on the power strip like two days ago everything just instantly cut off we were in the middle like a pub G match so so yeah I see she likes getting behind the desk and I hate that because I have a big panel here that blocks all the cable so you don't see any of the cables you know hanging behind the desk I did that just just purely from an aesthetic purpose but she likes to go back there because she feels secluded like it's her own habitat and sometimes she'll step on the power strip and when she does everything is gone so yeah you guys know if it cuts out that's what happened I'll do my best to get back as soon as possible let's see but in regards to mechanical keyboards I think your bucks is a little expensive and so I'm kind of on edge because I feel like if I go into this review with an open mind I'm I'm not I mean I'm not technically and I have an open mind because I already think that 200 is expensive for any mechanical keyboard out there I mean what could you put in a mechanical keyboard that would make it $200 is the question I have to ask I know you can have the all-aluminum if you know construction RGB everything that's cool and all but like to me I think there's a ceiling for keyboards no matter what switch you put in there and no matter what the build consists of right you know metal wise or plastic whatever you want to use so I don't know it's the dursa warrior says $200 keyboard I would spend on more ram instead yeah I think there are many things you could dish that money into you could buy a $50 $100 mechanical keyboard and take the other hundred bucks and throw it somewhere else so he could line it with gold exactly I really don't know for sure if it's even worth reviewing I just want to be open with the company upfront I mean cuz I would just tell them straight up I think it's a little expensive given what I saw they sent the link Pepsi hey get out of there get out of there come here get out she's like poking her head she's poking her head out from the desk she knows Pepsi sit yeah my keeper up here now okay all right you guys want to see the kitty just trying to bite me but yeah so I mean like my plenty guys are saying k55 Corsair keyboard stuff like that those are you know relatively cheap so it's hard to I don't know I just want to get y'all's take on anyway let's see here any other additional questions in regards to I saw something about Nvidia architecture okay that's the dance to her ass do you think there's possibility of software being developed to retro actively apply ray tracing effects to older games of course utilize in the new r-tx cards a Templar for that'd be really weird number four I'll be really weird Pepsi no she thinks I'm playing with her okay come on don't ah this is catastrophic I'm just gonna let her go if she's gonna do what she wants if it cuts out I'll just kick her out of the room and we'll try this again I don't think that you can retroactively Lee apply ray-tracing effects I mean these games have to be designed from the ground up with ray tracing kind of baked in because it's all in the code it's how you know these api's communicate with the different code that these guys let's all be on me as far as I know I mean they would have to go back and literally build these games from the ground up again with ray tracing enabled and that of course for defeat them you know why would you do that when you could just design a whole new game from the ground up utilizing ray tracing from the beginning again no I mean like think about it you're in the business to make money as a developer right so you want your program whatever let's say game to be accessed and played by as many people as possible this is why optimization is so important because when you design a game that only benefits those with the best hardware you work putting out at least eighty ninety percent of your potential fanbase right so your sales are automatically cut by eighty ninety percent and that's assuming the people that have the cards I can actually play the games even want the game so you have to keep all of that in mind when you're assessing the viability of new you know new API is Naomi new IP is it's not really is see you can play games on older and newer API so that's not necessarily what we're talking about here but ray tracing is something that it's not easily baked into games and so I'm just gonna go ahead and say up front that I think it's it's a long way away it's not something that many people are going to be able to support out of the box right now because people on nine 70s 950 T you know 950 1050 t-i-is GTX 950 750 T is all that stuff they are going to be they're not going to be able to play the game unless you can somehow turn off ray tracing which I don't know let's see yeah growing up Wow Wow Evan Nelson having Turin Turin in what do you think of the 1300 X plus an Rx 560 sounds like a great budget entry build I think you could do some solid 1080p gaming with that system look if that's what fits into your budget I think that's the best combo you can go for I'm glad you went with 1300 X and not like an i3 I think just objectively and I three it costs a bit more there's an interesting I don't know I think you could probably make a case for the i3 just because you're no longer bound by hyper threading on two cores and if you could pick one up for 120 bucks or so maybe the $20 Delta is good there for purely gaming if you don't plan a purely game though I'm not sure if that would be sufficient it just because being bound by four cores four threads and that's it you might want she's biting the crap out of my leg if four cores in general now are gonna get you buying most games still but when it comes to content creating photo editing all that stuff you're gonna want the extra cores you're gonna want extra RAM so it all depends on how you wanna move your money around I think it's a good combo that we have there let's see here Dom Noguchi so when you pair two monitors let's say 240 Hertz and 60 Hertz then you're gaming on the 240 Hertz won and you open a tab or you start watching something the game usually locks it to 60 Hertz in the 20 to 40 Hertz monitor that's that's weird I had a gaming monitor and a 60 Hertz monitor so one was 144 Hertz one was 60 Hertz they were both running from the same PC and I could literally like move a window over between both screens and I could see the window change from a 144 it's to a 60 Hertz like I could split it in half and move it up and down and you could see a huge difference and so I know you can do both at the same time but that's kind of a weird question I'm not sure why I think why that would do that in game let's see is it overclocked 5820k worth upgrading at all versus price performance of today's stuff no I don't think so I think you're fine with that for now there's no point ditching an extreme x99 system for something that's gonna be comparable like risin 5 is pretty comparable 5820k risin 5 2,600 2,600 acts very comparable actually okay let's see here scrolling down here trigger bomb hey Greg still have a 73 2k box cutter and I don't think I do anymore I think I broke it I'm pretty sure I broke it or I lost it yeah that's how little I care about this thank you sir Gaming 101 what are your thoughts in the gtx 750ti 1050 Ti I've got to tell you they're they're decent they were really those those cards kind of upset me during the mining craze we were gonna call it because I was I was hoping those cards wouldn't be touched very much bye bye bye miners and on paper they're not the greatest mega hash / minor cards out there they're just very power efficient is really their only advantage but I think that what was happening was these card prices were going up across the board right up the 1070 ish area I mean that was a sweet spot for miners right 10 70s AMD cards were being stolen off because of the extra stream processors the benefits there so those were all being affected prices were skyrocketing but I felt I feel like it trickled down and I'm sure looking back this is pretty obvious but those those price hikes trickled down to the lower end cards as well because I feel like people were discouraged from buying them the higher end stuff unless they had money you know flying everywhere so they they felt like they could compromise on a lower end card for now and then they would upgrade once the prices resolved themselves and in that process those lower end cards were also affected indirectly because people had to buy those up now you know demand for those Rises price has to rise in accordance with that or you'll have a supply shortage and so I think they were kind of hit indirectly by the craze and that ultimately drove the remainder of the graphics firm I could mark it up now they're not too bad I think what they were a mess are peeing out with a ok price 10 50/10 50 TI it was a big jump though between that and the 10 60 you know there's a huge price jump there for a lot of people in the budget space so if you can squeeze the 10 60 out sure but a 1050 TI is going to be good for a lot of people especially in a 1080p resolution it's it's really plenty a guy Kramer do you think miners are gonna jump on this launch I really doubt it I mean mining is the mining market is very different now it's it's very different I mean I have lots of friends who used to mine who's still mine and what I what I pick up from them we talk about this stuff is it's not as much now about oh I mean you can mine new currency or new new cryptocurrency you know all those kind of like venture capitalists who just want to jump into things from the start and just hope that they can make a quick buck without investing upfront but there are many more people now I feel like who are just strictly trading cryptocurrencies and that obviously doesn't really involve mining not on their side because they're not the ones doing the mining they're just getting the currency I don't think it's gonna be that I don't know though we don't know for sure how well these cards might if they're like insanely good miners for whatever reason then sure I think they'll be a little surge I don't know that but if that's it's okay if its case for that then it's also gonna be the case for a AMD with their new cards so I have to just kick her away she's like biting my leg like I'm attacking it but I'm not I'm being an innocent person oh gosh okay everyone likes oh no I'm seeing something else okay oh these comments are pretty good oh geez do you think I should get to 1440p monitors or a single 34 40 by 1440 I don't really know what you're doing viv brought Tory vibratory hippo eat I don't know what you don't have enough context to answer that question accurately but I would say content creators definitely love the ultra wide stuff I use an ultra wide 1440p monitor when I edit videos and that is something that I think you should consider if you're doing that if you're just gaming a single 1440p monitors fine and some games won't even support the ultra wide flooring factor so something else to consider what's going on Bob Flanders hi Greg you going to get the tiara to system I don't know I don't have I mean I have you know contacts with AMD I messaged him said hey I didn't get a TR to sample you guys playing on semi one and the answer I got back from them was well we can only pick so many people blah blah blah basically they don't know what they're doing I don't know it's just kind of strange that you would leave you know like J with over a million subs out from that launch but then give those chips to people with far fewer subs I don't think that AMD really cares as much about the exposure that or edelman their marketing agency doesn't really care much about the exposure I think they're they're more or less interested in like the unique perspectives the different reviewers offer and maybe they felt like J and Kyle and Paul myself we all kind of offer a unique or not unique but a similar perspective so they only dished it to a few and then they moved on to people in different categories I don't really know but whatever they decided they decided not to include us and I don't know when I mean I never got tr1 for example so I don't know I'm not getting my hopes up if I get one it's gonna be from somebody else it'll be from a motherboard manufacturer or I'll just go out and buy one but I don't know I don't know if I would ever need 32 cores or even 18 cores for that matter so we'll see twisted ninja says I was like having dual screens and my secondary is also a fairly junky yeah it's nice though to scram using two screens now and I like switching between and ultra wide is a different kind of experience I feel like with a with two different screens you have first of all you have usually more length real estate so you can have two different things running out to four instruments independently whereas with an ultra water monitor it's one single display sometimes you can split it into two different displays with two different cables but it's it's just a little finicky so yeah let's see Dom asks how was your Q sixty and are you making an in-depth video on it I'm still kind of in the works I'm not sure yet if I want to do a full-on dedicated video on a car like I used to because people just freak out they you know when they see you do one car review they think that your channel suddenly changed to you know a car review channel and they lose their minds so I really don't know Dalton says triple monitors are better and actually I'm really tempted to just you know sing some cash in to trip monitor setups and have one from my editing rig I don't know I had three that's a lot of space on a desk and I like to have my PC also on a desk so I'm gonna need like a like these desks here that I built are like eight feet long I'm gonna need an 8 foot long desk to run 3 27 inch monitors plus have my PC on the desk and have space on my other side or it doesn't look really weird so I don't know but yeah I do I do like the idea of three month because it's like it's more symmetrical I feel like what's going on lol epic Mike here he says what's up bro I am new to your channel and I am subscribed I appreciate that nanner man says a lot of reviewers bought their own natter man a lot of the reviewers who reviewed the product straight out of the gate didn't buy their own a lot of the guys who I mean obviously when you review it the first day it comes out they they were all sent samples they couldn't buy it because it was never being sold not up until that point trucker bought - if I'd ever owned a pickup truck no I'm not a truck guy I'm an SUV guy I would buy an SUV before about a truck I just I've I understand the viability of trucks obviously there are certain circumstances in which having a truck would be very beneficial but I just I like I like the way SUVs look frankly and I like the way they look more than trucks that's just me Nana plants says Greg can you help me my fantex p3f DX is an RGB header and that that's a 3-pin but my motherboards jrb G and put his four pin any ideas yes so that's because of the three pin is that's addressable I'm pretty sure the three feet says it's an addressable header you're gonna need to keep that stuff independent so what I did with my system that you guys saw my P through the X build was I kept the RGB system that was built into the case separate from the rest of the RGB that I had running from my cooler and from my graphics card and stuff and from the LED strip that I had in there so you're gonna have two different RGB controllers basically and the reason why is because your motherboard doesn't likely support addressable our jeebies there are converters you can buy control boxes and stuff but at this point I would say just save the money control the RGB Xin the case on top with the little controller dials and call it a day okay here girl on bag MTR redux ask D make enough money on your YouTube channel that you can do that full-time yes sir I'd do it full put it this way I make enough money on YouTube to where I don't feel like using my degree and and my in petroleum engineers don't I mean they're not low paid engineering jobs that you get in the petroleum field the reason why I did in the first place because it was one of the highest paid at the time it's a little finicky because you got you know your cycles up and down with the energy sector when energy prices gas prices are really low they laid people off they don't get paid very much and then when gas price is really high typically when the economy is not doing very well get paid a lot so it's kind of a give and take there are waves obviously the cycles with the economy kind of inverse of that to be honest but I could make a lot of money doing that more more money than I could make doing this at this point in time if I got a job in the oil field I would make like twice as much as I'm making now but I do this because I like it because I get to be my own boss and I get to talk with you guys in live streams on Sunday nights because yeah because I enjoy it it's just fun you know I couldn't do this on a regular field job whatever that's here ok scrolling down detail mica eyes you're gonna make new videos on the new cards well of course that's what we do on the channel ok scrolling down here ok arrow 7 7 7 says I'm thinking of buying an oculus rift for simracing is VR worth it look I really enjoy VR it gets old pretty quick I think if we need more developers in the space we need more games I think the game is ultimately define how how exciting VR is I have an HTC vive I got a sample from AMD earlier last year and then I liked it so much I went out and bought my own HTC 5 when I had to return AMD sample so if that tells you anything about it I liked it enough to drop 600 bucks on a kit but its finicky I had an HTC vive controller die and then I messaged them and they said yeah it'll be six to eight weeks to repair I'm like repair like we talking about just send me another controller you know I shouldn't have to wait 8 weeks to use my vibe that I spent 600 bucks on so terrible customer service on HTC's part but again it comes back to the games it gets old quick for me but everyone I have try VR loves it especially when it's their first time they freak out it's a real feeling it really does feel immersive and seeing people's reactions playing VR for the first time especially the intense games where things are running at you and stuff those those reactions make it worth it you know even if it's not me enjoying it seeing other people react to it I love that so take that for what it's worth okay let's see scrolling up when do you expect the new cards Matt you'll be hearing something soon very very very soon let's see I must like punishment if I like spending my Sundays with you guys that's awesome Cody Salak isn't it weird to talk to a chat by rolling by though it is kind of weird I'm kind of carrying on the whole conversation here but you guys are all contributing I mean I have so many questions and comments to address and stuff and I love that sermon nose is itching I love that that I love that you guys send me stuff like if I didn't have questions if I didn't have people wanting to get to know me what I do on the channel ask questions about tech you know stuff like that then I wouldn't do these live streams so you guys make these happen and I'm just kind of here to do what I can if I don't know how to answer a question I'm not gonna act like I know how to answer it I'm gonna tell you either it's out of my league or I will tell you I'll get back to y'all research it and I'll either make a video on it or I'll address it on Twitter or here you know wherever so it's nice to see the different you know thoughts and stuff the brain storms and everything going on in the chats and on Twitter and elsewhere so you guys keep me happy and excited honestly and the this kind of stuff is my motivation to keep making videos during the week and not want to go you know have a normal job like a normal person let's see good with with a good wheel and a good GPU okay alright so we're gonna open it up to and ask me anything if you guys haven't already asked questions then get those ready and start firing them off in the chat box and I will do my best to answer as many as I can if I don't get to your question don't spam it you can post it once every two or three minutes or so that's fine but don't like spam it eight times in a row I purposely won't read it's not fair to everyone else so that's really I'll have to say but yeah go ahead and ask questions if you have them even if they're weird off-topic doesn't matter to me this isn't asking me anything you can ask me any that's what it means right stinky Pete oh one says hi science to do what are your thoughts on VA panels I'm excited for that coming 34 40 by 1440 200 Hertz HDR panels but I have no experience with VA can VA hold its own against IPS syncope I have a video literally talking about VA versus IPS versus TN you should go watch that video because I talk about the pros and cons of each technology and which one I prefer and which one I think is the best bang for the buck and whether you should even care which technology is being supported in the mo know that you're interested in so something to consider yep I know just blew through that question but watch that video and I guarantee you you will you will feel comfortable with your decision after that weste weste 0 or Wes Wes Oh what was your favorite product launch and the worst gosh my favorite product launch I got really excited when Pascal came out honestly because that was right when the channel started blowing up we were gaining tons of summer getting thousands of subscribers per day I remember some days we had 2,000 3,000 subs at a time in one day and that was that was like the most motivating thing ever and this was while I was still in school so at this time I thought I was still gonna have a normal job again I thought I was just gonna be a normal person not new YouTube full time but then when I got out and the channels where it was I you know took the pay cut hitter potential pay cut hit to do this because I do really enjoy this more so and the Nvidia launch the Pascal launch was just around the time the channel was starting to really mature and I was really excited not only for that for the time that it came out but also because the cards were so much more powerful than what I was used to testing so this is the first time I could actually cover hands on the launches and also give you guys you know the inside scoop the benchmarks and inform you before you spent your money on something that you otherwise wouldn't have known anything about beforehand okay scrolling down here the Burnham beaver do you think AMD GCN architecture is what's holding them back or the price of the HBM memory they are forcing onto their higher end cards interesting I actually don't know enough about this to answer fully I will say that I'm sure HBM plays a part and that's one of the reasons why NVIDIA has avoided HDMI is because they've seen what it's done to AMD in their cards and their manufacturing abilities like they're limited by that market because HBM is it's one of those things that is definitely beneficial in some respects but is it really worth it I mean do you notice can you tell when a card is HBM versus gddr5 or GG dr6 right so it's it saves space right so having on on while on chip memory modules I guess is what you you know high bandwidth memory having those on the chip itself allows the car to be physically smaller and that's definitely a real physical benefit but apart from that and the higher you know the lower memory latency stuff that's associated with it do we really see translate into real-world benefits right so that's something to consider I'm just saying that yeah it's definitely played a part I don't think the GCN architecture necessarily is holding them back if that's the case then it's you know stream processors in general CUDA cores in general we're gonna be held by we're gonna be held back by the some point anyway but I think if AMD knew that that was the limiting factor they would have changed that a while back let's see here I see super chat went even the super chat from Deus Savoia found out let's see which I think you for that man dude here is what's the left of the M of an mail-in rebate that took four months you have been great to watch Thank You ppreciate you know I sent in a cooler master hyper t4 mail-in rebate two years ago there's a $5 million rebate I was like what the heck I'll do it anyway I never saw that $5 I don't know if they mailed it to the wrong address or that it didn't bother but yeah I never saw it again no let's see Nikolas Phillips do you dye your sideburns that is no I'm 22 I'm almost 24 so the answer to that is no oh gosh max Lawson 97 that $2 Chapman dude case recommendations for under 100 bucks looking at 350 X that's a great case I mean I recommend that definitely in the 70 dollar price category I think it beats out the s3 40 if you want around 100 bucks the defined C tempered glass Edition is a really great case so as a measure if I see as the p400 from ban tags and the s340 elite you should also consider if you want to go just above a hundred bucks the leniently PCO 11 dynamic cases they are very nice both the white and black variants so there's a spiel for you in that general crash category PA asked have you ever tried gaming on Linux correct no I've never tried gaming on Linux I've used Linux one time before and was on a chrome there's a Chromebook that I hacked and put Linux on and then I'd very quickly switched it back to Chrome OS cuz I hated Linux it's just not my cup of tea I'm not very comfortable with Linux because I'm not very comfortable the software not that kind of coding and stuff so let's see you're scrolling down to evan Harman 1070 gr 1080 really depends on the price I can't give you something specific without context I'm grumpy on PC do you think r-tx will be something amazing we talked about that the beginning of the livestream so I invite you to scroll back I'm sure you I think you can do that on a timeline and we talked about it otherwise it would be archived this live stream so you can watch on the channel later but I talk you know quite extensively about Nvidia upfront and we'll close talking more about it what I think and what you guys should look forward to price-wise and stuff based on what I've seen I don't like talking much about rumors and stuff but we're pretty confident now what we're gonna hear over the next week from Nvidia so what will summarize with that again if you were a vegetable what vegetable would you be from agent W interesting I think I would be broccoli or something I say broccoli because I used to have really long hair when I was younger and it always grew out kind of like an afro but uh it was like very it was a very loose afro because it's just you know wavy hair kind of curly and it would do weird things but it would look like broccoli in another way what's gonna sprawl up and just my whole head would look like that and then the very slim stalk for the neck so uh yeah that's probably what would fit I'm not sure just off the cuff let's see 3G that thing won't the same high school together and college mostly and Troy I love the channel thanks 3 G's I went to Troy for a year I ended up switching to a program ahead engineering Department that Troy doesn't have engineering that's like the only reason why I changed I was I was a business major economics I think is what it was financial economics at Troy for a year and then I switched to to the University of Louisiana because because of that now but Roy is beautiful I love Troy I would go back to Troy no heartbeat and then yeah Moseley as well what's your name three.js I probably know you scrolling down Christopher asdf do you think 9900 K will be a lot better than 8700 k stock oh I don't really know I don't think it's gonna be a huge jump in performance put it that way we're talking maybe and the extra cores are gonna benefit from with an IPC standpoint though I would say no more than 10 percent I'm gonna say more or less in the realm of six percent six to eight percent depending on the real-world architectural benefits and how well Windows 10 and other operating systems can utilize the new architecture Taipei Taiwan 10 Greg who is the we you talk about is the channel just you I do have Lisa helped me quite a bit at least it does a lot behind the scenes as it is will will does his own thing will those will things will well as all over the place and he's what he's very good at all the stuff that he does but every now and he helps us here on the channel as well so I don't like doing them a disservice and and you know to me it's an insult when I act like people don't help me when they actually do and so that's why I say we even when I'm the only one making videos I say it anyway just because I think it's the right thing to do truck or bomb what is your favorite current ban favorite band member or favorite band ever favorite band ever has got to be Breaking Benjamin my favorite current bands probably Bring Me The Horizon I like both of those bands for different reasons I think Breaking Benjamin is very consistent I love all of their music because it always sounds the way I envision Breaking Benjamin is sound and then Bring Me The Horizon just has such a dynamic song like their and their new album apparently gonna be really good too hopefully but when you go back as far as that maternal and there is a hell and stuff like that like those albums are just lit but for different reasons than their new albums because like if you listen to Ono or follow you from that's the spirit and then you listen to Shadow Moses or something you know there's like just two totally different bands but they're so dynamic they're so good and confident in what they do that they can they can sound that different so yeah let's see Ali Oh Ali the king can we play csgo for a video maybe on a gaming channel somewhere uh yeah I'm sure I suck at csgo I haven't played I have like two hours in csgo like I'm not very good at it at all so I would be disappointing but sure I mean I guess if I have some time I could do that DJ Rick's what do you think about the i-5 8400 and gtx 1070 for 1080p gaming DJ rex have a video literally talking about this with those resolutions in a video it's a high five eighty four hundred plus a gtx 1080i so that's an even more extreme case but watch that video it'll answer your question let's see nano man says these live streams we've gotten better and better i believe a lot of good questions coming in and Greg's not always saying not always saying I already made a video about it he says that and I literally just told a good watch the video like looks the reason why I say that not because I feel like repeating myself 20 time because people watch the same questions every live stream and there are new people and I don't blame up they don't know what was answered I don't I can't get mad at them for that or whatever but I when I tell people to watch videos it's because the the answers themselves aren't very straightforward and like when it's a benchmark like let's say how was any house an i5 mixed with the 1070 perform I can't really just give you in a nutshell how well it performs I could say that it's gonna be a generally balanced system especially for games that utilize a max of four to six cores for sure that our frequency bound which very few cases they will be but you know I tell them that just because I feel like those videos are out there for a reason there's a lot more information in those videos than what I could tell you in a 30-second response on a live stream so it would do you a solid to watch the video not because I care about the view and I care about the no fractions of pennies that we'll get from your view but because it'll actually benefit you to watch the video so there's my rationale I'm trying to CMA here oh let's see silent j studio show the cat i did show the cat earlier in the livestream he might not have been here but she was here I don't know where she's now she's sleeping I don't want to wake her up she'll step on cables and crap and she was doing that earlier so I'm gonna leave her she's being a good girl right now a good girl Pepsi it's a good girl yeah she's out she didn't even respond attactive in today's competitive climate do you think for a new streamer youtube is better than twitch that's really tough I'm not very familiar with twitch that's why I stream to YouTube because I don't think I mean I don't have a huge fan base on twitch anyway but whenever I screamed at which I get maybe 10 20 concurrent viewers whenever I stream on YouTube right now we got what 275 or so so we can get easily ten times the pull here and that's why I think it's better to do it here for me just because I built my original fan base here on YouTube but in general I mean twitches I think it'll be more competitive depending on what you do though there are plenty of twitch gamers out there right but I think the creative stuff that's not is that's why the requirements used to be I don't know if it's still the case the requirements for creative twitch streamers used to be lower than the requirements for gaming streamers because they were the gaming was more competitive right so yeah I think it's I think it's more competitive at this point to be a gamer on twitch but traction on youtube is it's tough it's debts to catch-22 because YouTube isn't as popular for gaming streaming for game streaming as switches so you gotta weigh the pros and cons ultimately I think twitch is still a better platform for this but I really don't know I mean you just have to feel it out that's tough genki genki 883 one asked do you think the pc building is a dying hobby absolutely not in fact it's been growing quite a bit I mean the number of people getting involved in PC gaming PC building has been exploding and that was partly due to the fact that channels were I mean you can see how fast channel is used to grow how many people are trying to do the whole tech channel thing now it's because it was in response to how many people were getting into it at the time when consoles were getting pretty expensive people were like screw it I'll just built a PC and I get the best of both worlds so yeah let's see Skybolt what is currently your favorite laptop it's the one I reviewed like five videos ago the huawei mate book X Pro best all-around MacBook MacBook the best all-around laptop in my opinion from a portability standpoint as well as a performance standpoint I render 74 respect to your first PC I get asked this like every live stream I 340 350 40 I almost at 40 350 K the I 340 150 and gtx 750ti that was my first purely gaming build that i built myself when I was younger I was building and - oh me my dad would bring home PCs and I would tear them apart and put them back together and stuff and that was his way like teaching me intro electronics and everything I was really young we used to do that I was always interested in electronics but I never really knew how they worked until I got into school so it really comes down to you know at the time I was just wanting to build a PC that I could game on and video edit on and that was what I was what prompted me to build my first legit PC on my own with my own money and that was what it had in an i3 4150 and then gtx 750ti let's see Ian paying not familiar with US laws what did you mean in your tweet about immigration laws so I was talking about how difficult it is for people to immigrate to the US so because Lisa and I are married we yet we can apply for a different visa so we apply for the cr1 visa you could apply for the k3b so it really depends but generally I take about the same amount of time used to be the cr1 was a faster way to immigrate and they kind of trade blows now so 7 to 9 months roughly is what its gonna take before she can come here and stay here now we could have gotten married when we did and she could have just stayed because she didn't originally come here to implant on staying so when we got married it was kind of it was kind of spontaneous like we were already engaged and we knew we were gonna get married soon we didn't want to wait you know a year or whatever but we weren't sure when we were gonna do it and at one point we just kind of decided together we were just gonna do it I mean it was pretty spontaneous and you know we didn't really have a wedding or anything like that we just got married and it was let's see I think that was like in that was March 18th was our wedding day but I think she left like two days later now she could have stayed we could have adjusted stuff because we didn't plan on her staying that was totally just out of the blue like it's technically you can't come here with the intention of staying on a nest Arabs or whatever that's defrauding the government and we didn't know that we didn't know about any of this stuff so she went back home then we started reading up the immigration laws and like what do we need to apply for and then we got shafted because it turns out she can't come back now and stay because she already left she can't adjust anymore that's the rule and the cr1 processing times are like seven to nine months which means that we need to keep going back and forth now paying these $700 thousand dollar plane tickets to see each other and it sucks not only on our bank accounts but it sucks just being a part you know like you don't marry somebody with the intent of being away from that person so that's partly why I was kind of bringing up the immigration part of it okay that's why we're apart right now is because the immigration process in the u.s. is so slow so there's some yeah sorry about the romantic stuff I'm supposed to be tech talk but yeah that's that's it a nutshell that's why it's kind of frustrating okay here Matt asked what keyboard do you use right now I'm using master keys from Coolermaster I do have a G skill oh gosh km5 setna km 570 MK 5 so I don't remember what it's called it's from G skill 750 something I'm just throwing out numbers at this point I have a G skill keyboard I really like as well the type of switch that I like the most i trade blows between browns and blues I like blues better from a tactile feel but I hate to sound like the sound rotates me and I've like OCD oh no what I have but it just it arcs me and when I'm concentrating what I'm typing I love the feel but I hate the sound so I compromise on Browns most of the time so I'll game on Browns and I'll type on Browns as well so yeah anyway let's see yeah all the good all I appreciate you guys you see Harris as I work in immigration here in Canada and I know that doesn't help but it's much worse he did you hear how longer your immigration times like like if I married a Canadian and I wanted to immigrate to Canada how long would how long would the immigration process take before or how long would I have to wait until I could live in Canada with her I'm curious how long did how long it takes let's see Daniel got through hey Greg over clocking my rise in 1600 when I set V quarter 1.35 and the bios hardware monitor shows it's pulling a massive VDD 1.55 volts and your experiences accurate I'm not too sure just remember V Corps and V DD are totally different but I don't know it's probably gonna depend on the board I'll have to check but if all you're doing is tampering with V Corps and you're leaving everything else on auto then I would say in most cases it's safe it might not be optimal but it's likely safe these are preset you know Auto conditions when these motherboard manufacturers are testing these CPUs they kind of calibrate all the stuff up front make sure that the system runs stable otherwise people who don't know how to tinker in the BIOS would always arme their boards because nothing's ever stable so as long as you leave that on auto you should be okay but I would have to do more research in that specific board to know why it's doing that scrolling down to G here says live in Canada 1.5 years easy ooh that's that that hurts that's tough I'm surprised the US is easier than Canada that's really weird just like you would think now with the current political climate and stuff and just I don't really know for sure but I know that it's not it's easier it would have been easier ten years ago to emigrate in the US and that is now not just because of presidents and policies and stuff but just because we have quotas and there are certain conditions in which you know it's it's just gets backed up and when people immigrate in mass it's a lot harder to kind of squeeze your way in there and immigrate quickly because it's all first-come first-serve basically unless you get like special appointments and people rank you up so yeah let's see the sound thing is miss phone yeah it's a condition similar to sensory overload where specific sounds unexplainably annoy you like coughing eating etc I wonder if they have a day and I wonder if they have like like solid like proof for like explanations for why that happens like if there's some like process in the brain that gives somebody that condition or if it's just a generic you know term they use to explain something that scientists can't explain otherwise I wonder let's see Sam can't love from India I love all your videos I appreciate that Sanket thank you for your support and thank you for watching this would be Monday afternoon for you correct so I appreciate that let's see Matthew Beebe how do I open up my motherboards BIOS likely got a spam delete so right when you turn your PC you're gonna get a little splash screen of your motherboard logo and something else at the bottom just keep clicking delete until something different than your desktop shows up that's gonna be your BIOS let's see scrolling down here scrolling down rise official should I get a new CPU or GPU for fps that's a very vague question but in general if you're looking for a higher framerate than what you're operating at let's say you're offering a 60 Hertz right now with your current monitor and you want to bump up to 144 it's monitor very likely you'll be limited by your CPU very extreme cases in which the GP was still the bottleneck obviously if you're running like a g2 10 with an i3 4150 in it then your g2 10 is still gonna be the bottleneck even at the higher refresh rate just because you're not gonna be able to run anything in that resolution period so yeah but in general the CPU is gonna determine is gonna limit your framerate more so than your graphics card will and that's due to multiple reasons parallelism is a reason why the graphics card is able to push so many frames at the same time your CPU has a fixed number of cores very few by comparison to the number of CUDA cores and generic graphics cards and stream processors and AMD graphics cards and that is one of the reasons why the CPU ultimately becomes a bottleneck so there you go in a nutshell I'm already here scrolling down we get to the bottom of things Daniel Guthrie five-dollar Zealand Wow appreciate that much dude thanks Greg appreciate your feedback have a great evening you as well actually evening here in New Zealand so 13 14 hours ahead so it's your afternoon right it's gotta be your afternoon if my pretty sure dude the date line messes me up so bad the International Dateline cutting through the Pacific that throws me off every time we go to copy text it just blows my mind because technically we're going back in time when we fly from Taiwan back to the States because we're crossing the Dateline even though we're going forward in time forward in time forward of time then we pass the Dateline then we're back a full 24 hours and it's just like like so the whole plane trip is like negative two hours it's insane Jeff fly says you are the best I'm going to bed good night thanks Jeff flying thanks for watching well some blood dude your channel is awesome I appreciate that thank you very much you guys are being overly supportive right now it's kind of surprising I feel like something fishy's going on all mix there entertainer you look like Superman I probably look like a super anorexic Superman but I appreciate the compliment I guess scrolling down a lead Akeem what do you think of the i7 4790k at 5 gigahertz that that seems rather than unobtainable but if you think you can hit it I would like to know how you hit it with what cooler if you're not Ellen to cooling that sounds really awesome though hmm okay let's see here what else do we have what else do we have oh yeah so Dana says it's the afternoon it's my birthday - happy Daniel dint have me Pappy Daniel Wow happy birthday Daniel I just butcher that whole thing geez ok mr. Leonardo I do if my 970 doesn't display video that is not a good sign my friend check your PCI connections swap the PCIe slot that your card is plugged into more than likely it's plugged into the top slot just to narrow down the chance that it's your PCI slot itself try moving that card down to a different 16 Lane slot and see if it post then if it does not then you might want to check I mean you don't want to you don't want to just up and decide that the graphics pardon have to armaid or return it or whatever so you want to narrow it on every other possibility I mean literally like check the power supply cables if it's a modular power so make sure those cables aren't unplug you know if the graphics cards not getting power it won't send signal if especially if it says supplemental power connection we're talking about it's that's really about it I don't I can't think of anything else you can narrow down the top of my head but it's likely graphics card issue if you're not getting a post that is in my experience usually the case also check doctor debug plug in a speaker and see how many beeps you're getting and try to diagnose it that way because it might not be a guy you never know you might not get a post for some other reason check RAM slots all that stuff but if you're assuming it's your graphics card or something happened to do with it then do what I said check the slot check the power connection and then narrow it down from there okay let's see every time I scroll down it screws up I scroll down like two times and then it kicks me all the way to the bottom then have to scroll back up again I hate this render 74 what do the specs to your first PC dude I literally answered your question like 10 minutes ago so either you weren't paying attention or you're just asking again just to get my attention again but I did answer that question already sue maybe you afk let's see Charles bail do you have beautiful teeth dude I appreciate that Charles honestly though it's kind of a front because these teeth I earn it they see they're pretty straight I had braces but my bottom tooth my bottom two teeth in the center they kind of overlap each other so they're supposed to be side by side right but one tooth fell behind closer to my tongue and then kind of like slid behind it so they're not totally covering each other but like you can tell that one's leaning on the other and that sucks so yeah they're not I'm not really beautiful once you look at them but braces did definitely help let's see scrolling down festive got to go to bed first day of high school tomorrow I'm a freshman alright festive best of luck in your classes remember school is very important and and like you don't need to be successful in school to be successful in life but it helps okay it really does help there aren't as many barriers in your way so best of luck let's see twisted ninja five dollar Canadian thank you twist it appreciate that here's five CAD bucks but really it's like one point - five four eur/usd people so here's enough money for a pop from the vending machine what is your conversion rate on let's check is it's always changing CAD and USD are always changing see conversion 0.77 so five Canadian dollars is three dollars and eighty three cents that's awesome I appreciate that I'll let's see scrolling down though Wow in 2013 it was almost one to one and then it see it dropped in 2016 Wow at the beginning of 2016 it dropped to its lowest point 0.67 ish that's that's really low that's a big drop very quick I'm not sure the underlying cause of that but that's that's kind of sketchy okay but I appreciate it thank you let's see Matt asked do you think I could overclock the 8700 K to five point two gigahertz with a crack in X 72 a IO I depends on the chip obviously you have bending issues to worry about so if you have a good chip maybe if you have a bad chip absolutely not if you D lid and apply liquid metal which is what this next video I'll be releasing tomorrow is about then you'll have a much better shot at hitting that frequency so maybe you stay tuned for the video you might die might learn something and maybe be encouraged and deal it'd it sucks that we have to do it but you know it's what we have to do is until if it's terrible Tim over there dies Daniel Connor Greg collecting parts for new build last three items are 9900 k motherboard and 2080 TI will it play 1440p at 144 it's for the next six years dude I don't look that far I'm not a fortune teller I have no idea that I can tell you're gonna be set for a long time and yeah I mean you know if I had to guess yeah I think you'd be five to six years is a long time technology changes very quick so I don't know I would say six years there's render render 74 says yeah that's right oof I answered his question assuming it's a guy and he asked a question later on and I guess he didn't hear it okay and that's twisted says yeah I did we were super stoked when our money had almost been about the same as the US but then that changed again pretty quick you guys are like yeah we're right there with the US and then you know what's happening what's going on although our currency to be fair is pretty trashed too so I mean look how strong the English pound is right pound it so the pounds always been higher than USD as far as I can remember so yeah let's see Cody asked check your discord PM's after stream if you could please I don't have personal messages enabled for people in the discord just because that would get tons of personal messages I get tons of personal messages on Facebook you could tweet me Cody or you could just message us in the donor live strand that in the donor Channel I'm very you know it's much more open they're obvious because the donor channel so if you want to do it that way then I'll be able to respond personally to you it's one of the benefits of being a donor patreon supporter or in your case YouTube sponsor join or Joyner or whatever YouTube like change the join button it changed it from member or like subscribe whatever they call it not subscribed was uh what was it she's the subscribe button and Twitter and not Twitter the subscribe button and twitch is like the pay button right but then on YouTube the subscribe button is not the pay button it's the other button I think it's the member button whatever they called it beforehand I can't remember sponsor that's what it was a sponsor button and then they changed the sponsor button to the join button and so now my old video talking about the subject make makes no sense now because that button doesn't exist anymore so GG YouTube anyway yeah rip so but I appreciate it Cody I thank you for sponsoring us or whatever you want to call it on YouTube now and I'll check the discord so be sure to drop a comment or drop a question whatever and I'll check it out let's see dan says the pounds been doing really poor the last five years ever the pounds still better than us is what I mean like you're still doing alright by comparison yeah 1.27 so over the last five years let's see in 2018 you were 1.4 now you're at 1.3 roughly your peak and 2014 was 1.7 you were almost two times and then in 2007 right before the crash which I think this is all inflated anyway so I wouldn't even worry about pre 2008 stuff but you were literally two to 2.0 five times US currency pre 2008 you know pre housing crisis so yeah it's been going down quite a bit but you're still stronger than us that was really the point I wanted to get across there the work Hawks is liquid metal worth the hassle I'm gonna answer that question tomorrow in my video so stay tuned for that let's see Eric Phan stock fain stock Eric Dane stock remember me from last week honestly you know I feel bad but I gotta be honest I really don't but if you ask a question if you did then if you bring the question back up I'll probably remember the question there are so many names on this chat honestly it's really awful really difficult to remember I remember all the sponsors and stuff because they have little icons next to their name and they're not many sponsors so I know all of them I know Cody mr. KF gaming trucker Baum all them because there's only like 20 channel sponsors but you know there are a lot of names to go through otherwise yeah let's see are you going to be watching the live stream Greg it's possible I'll be I'll be asleep probably when it happens but I'll watch the live stream after it's already been archived I'm sure and we'll see what's what okay Vietnamese dawn greater than USD knob no I want to google it right now oh my god point zero zero zero is zero for three US dollars for one Vietnamese doll my dude that is the ultimate roll okay Chris Ark says $1,000 or $1,200 for PC gaming dude I have no you give me no contacts and I question I can't answer it accurately for you Patrick will you ever review the our asus rog HDR monitor the new one I'm not sure which one you're talking I guess there's only one new HDR monitor I'm sure if they send it to me but I'm not gonna go out and buy a monitor to review it those monitors are very expensive let's see do you use a UPS for backup no I don't because I'm too cheap to buy one I'm sure I could benefit from it but honestly I mean if power gets cut off I'll just power the thing back on I'm not like running servers or anything where I need constant power or power backups oh yeah okay let's see Matthew's asking about bio stuff Matthew I do have an overclocking guide it's a very old overclocking guy but he type in you know science to do overclocked guide then you'll you'll see it oh I was like 2 years younger is like a two-year old video but the principle still the same matching vcore trying to find the optimal vcore lowest peak where possible with the highest attainable frequency tweaking a few other things is also possible but you know load line calibration and stuff but in general volt V core and frequency the ones you really want to worry about you could do per core overclocking and stuff to new member we have Dan Stewart is a new member of the channel that means that he's paying five bucks a month to be a channel member he gets a cool battery next to his name that will progressively increase in charge until it reaches the full green battery charge at the end of it I appreciate that Dan and look hopefully you want to stick around and get that beautiful green better it's a way of kind of suckering you in to keep wanting to be a member but we'll see so yeah so now remember Dan forever because Dan's got that icon next to his name that's really cool by the way if you guys don't like the icons or whatever we can always change those to something else some other like incrementally increasing icon this was just something I came up with on top of my head because yeah let's see yeah leapin Castillo please help look back at 8:04 p.m. 804 p.m. it's not even 804 p.m. here you should have ant you should have asked if you asked a question you should have asked it in that donation because I can't see it I can't go back that far and there are no time stamps on any of these comments and I'm looking at so it kind of s so well I'm sorry but just comment I'll look for your name so that you don't feel like you threw money at me for nothing and I will I will try my best to answer if I see it leave in Castillo I will look for your name okay Patrick do you ever did you ever go to school for engineering necessary type of engineering is like yeah I went to school I have a petroleum engineering degree and I'll be graduating in like a month and a half with my Masters in Business Administration so kind of two different things there but yeah I have a video talking about the engineering program my experience with in stuff by the way in a dedicated video if you're interested in that and capacitors chemical a lot of people think I was a chemical engineer and that's really because petroleum engineers are they're few and far between let's not say that were rare but like we our occupations are very specialized you know not most companies could benefit from having a mechanical engineer on hand or an electrical engineer on hand chemical is a little more specialized and then petroleum is very specialized in the sense that you know like we do one thing that's it like electrical engineers can be more like they can work on more than one thing like we have underlying electrical mechanical and chemical principles that we had to you know study when we were in school so we took thermodynamics electrical circuits we took all the generic engineering classes and stuff but then we specialized heavily on drilling geology and the like and as a result you know that's kind of all culminated into this petroleum engineering field but yeah I you know I could go and do that and make 100k a year but I just a part of me I mean I still want to send out resumes and see I was a good student I graduated with a 3.8 GPA in college and that's not it's not easy in an engineering program but it's it was something I was always pretty good in school I I never went out party anything like that I Maran YouTube full-time while I was in college you know building a building a business while in college keeping my grades up that was like now that I was like I was a good boy and it paid off I mean like I don't have to work as an engineer because I could do this but how much longer I can do this before it becomes unsustainable I don't know if YouTube deletes my channel tomorrow there's another scenario so I'm glad I had the degrees to kind of act as a fallback even though I never went into these degrees thinking they were gonna be fall backs but yeah so yeah there's some there are chemical engineering classes we have to take fluid dynamics organic chemistry stuff like that transport phenomena and then there are some mechanical principles as well statics mechanics materials thermodynamics physics one physics two you name it so yeah that's about the that's about a culmination of it mr. ma I think that $5 super chapped my dude I'm good to see you're doing well my dude loved the channel as always I appreciate that chances the next i7i nine will require a new motherboard 77 okay is lacking in course yeah that's something that Brian and I were talking about it's looking a lot like they're gonna it's I I would put money on these CPUs require any motherboards the reason why I say that is because Pat it's all about power delivery so Z 370 has a fixed I mean not a fixed power line but Z 370 motherboards I don't think are going to be able to tolerate the power draws from eight core CPUs I really don't I don't know it's it's gonna be tough especially the higher frequencies I just don't see it happening I think we're gonna need a new platform for them I think some of them maybe some of the you know the lower chips will be compatible with BIOS updates maybe the I 999 hundred K whatever it's called will be compatible too but if I had to put money on it I would say no and looking at Intel's track record there was what one or two there was one time that I can recall recently when we could do that I was skylake to KB Lake and I was effectively the same architecture I mean there was literally no difference there right but with coffee lake now there's a difference and with whatever next also a difference so that's at least what I think it's a good question I've talked about that a lot but I think the answer to that is yes it will require a new motherboard which is unfortunate but you know it's Intel so oh all right so we're gonna do a couple more questions now it's like 10:10 I try to keep this to an hour or so it starts to drag out past an hour but you guys are asking really good questions so I'm gonna keep doing that let's see Tata 1988 says tiger ka year not really it's at least 130 K year 130k a year here in GCC country and excuse me that really depends on the location obviously yes and it also depends on the current market so right now like I knew there was a guy that taught my class who was I mean this was he was the best of the best in our class he had you know every credential you could think of he started working for Chevron they hired him on I think they offered him a 20k signing bonus and a hundred K a year and this is Chevron so and in the u.s. right we drill ton offshore texas-louisiana onshore and South Dakota and North Dakota and places like that so I would say saying 130k year is not a fair estimate for the states right now for the states right now it's about a hundred K year in general the signing bonuses and stuff aside so and that's likely starting which is really good and it's not the highest engineering salaries around but again like knowing that I could possibly make that much money or even more than that is still not enough to get me from to get me to stop doing what I'm doing or even make this a part-time job it really depends I miss the benefits and stuff of a real time job but I don't know I think it's some point I'll have to anyway at least and I start thinking about having kids and stuff it's gonna be really expensive because YouTube has no benefits for its creators you know we have to pay for health insurance and all that stuff out-of-pocket retirement all of that so that's something you you forego when you decide to be a youtuber twitch streamer or whatever just FYI people don't think about that till they're in it mmm no it's a rusty Shackelford great you have plans for the channel when the tariffs against China rear its ugly head not sure what all that's gonna encompass yet I don't want to make predictions people are freaking out saying it's the end of PC gaming all this crap because they think that the trade wars with China are gonna cripple everything anything that is electronic it's gonna be you know surging in price whatever I'm gonna wait and see before I make speculations about that kind of stuff because we don't really know I mean the China in the u.s. right now because the US is suddenly randomly aggressive with China and China's you know responding accordingly China's like hey you push us we're gonna push you back we got to look strong you know every country that thinks they're the best country is gonna do that but every now and then we see compromises and those compromises alleviate some of the concerns in the markets especially with the the US markets right we look at the New York Stock Exchange every day we hear good things about the trade wars you see that the stock prices just jump up all Green Arrow's everything you know investments great outlook is great forecast is great and then all of a sudden we get bad news about the trade deals and then everything goes down we have red arrows everywhere now it's just an up-and-down game of BS frankly and everybody is just on their toes willing to click the Buy button or the sell button depending on whatever they hear on CNN or Fox News the next day it's just it's all garbage in my opinion a market is so unstable and unpredictable because it shouldn't be as high as it is in general I don't think I'll invest for the time being in anything just because I don't think I could predict it accurately enough you could look at any financial record you want any balance sheet financial statement you know it's you just never know the only ones that really benefit are the inside traders and the people that already have tons of dollars spread out in huge portfolios and they're making Bank anyway so yeah there's much spill in the market but that's one of the reasons why I don't really touch it let's see okay syncope does it make sense for a BIOS limit for a BIOS limit if is either 370 can't fully power 9900 K and then fully power with a C 390 chipset does it make sense for a BIOS limit if no that's that's what I'm saying I if there's a power limit then it's not going to be a BIOS update to fix that issue that's what I'm saying if it's a power limit you're gonna need a new platform a new chipset a totally redesigned motherboard from the ground up you know you can't just suddenly want to pull more power through and expect the prm's everything to manage power distribution accurately and you know safely without getting super hot we don't know yet I don't know how efficient these chips are gonna be but off the top of my head I'm just I'm just thinking that they're not gonna be compatible max Matt Barnes good question what is this max safe temps excuse me max safe voltage I'm assuming you're meaning vcore for horizon second gen ah I think Rison has a there's a limit of like 1.5 nobody should ever go that high I wouldn't go above 1.4 personally if you could get to 1.4 keep temps down then fine I doubt you'll be able to do that this is a really really steep threshold there once you get to 1.4 if temperatures really skyrocket but in general I keep minor on 1.3 1.3 5 and I call it a day I don't go any higher than that if I'm recalling correctly I get intel on a MBV course confused but they're usually pretty close together I'll check I don't remember what I have the overclock on this 2700 here but all that alpha see let's see leaving Castillo this is 1700 X on X 470 have better ram compatibility ooh I don't think so and it's not it's not the same as running 2700 X on an X 370 so and my in my testing I found that it was the CPU that it was a CPU itself that was struggling to keep up with memory frequencies and timings so even if you run a 1700 X on X 470 and the X 470 motherboard supports the frequency doesn't mean that the CPU is going to so it's I would not buy an export 70 board with the expectation that the memory that you buy is automatically gonna run at XMP profile at 700 X my 1700 X is a pain in the butt to get X and P profile enabled on no matter what I do any Ram kid I use X and P is literally impossible in every X 370 or be 350 motherboard I use so yeah it's definitely gonna be CPU bound that regard if you were really worried about that I would sell the 1700 X and try to buy something else but that is a limiting factor for sure let's see okay Erik fain stock what do you think of the new Chinese consul with a custom AMD SOC I like breeze past that like I saw that article or whatever you know I saw one of the articles regarding that thing and I I didn't really care I saw consul and I was like you know whatever like it just doesn't hair tape literally the word consul turned me off that's how like an that console I am AC Crouch 2016 hi your videos are helpful I appreciate that thank you for stopping by and checking this out tech Crimson thank you for being the moderator by the way I appreciate that I meant to make one other guy moderator I see tech crimson here all the time that's awesome let's see here woke no time says hi Greg good to catch a stream of yours so what's going on woke I appreciate you stopping by and and us badly thanks guys love this Q&A session really helpful I appreciate that look I'm just trying to fire off as many answers questions as I can my voice is important I throw it sparks right now but we're about to end the stream maybe let's do let's do like two more questions so if you guys throw questions at me I want to see good questions don't spam with the same question over and over but give me one or two good questions that you want to hear answered in the next two or three minutes and I will do my best to to pick the best one I don't know I can't I can't read every question and answer every question obviously but if I didn't answer your question this live stream come back next week we do this every night excuse me every Sunday night or Monday morning it's 9:00 p.m. CST Central Standard Time here in the States on Sunday nights that's whatever translated time it is where you live and yeah okay let's see here Beastmaster 101 PCI a wireless network cards versus USB dongles in my experience the wireless cards and PCI PCI or Wireless cards are way better the USB dongles are gonna be limited not only by the bandwidth but also by in most cases it's just the antenna and then the antennas are terrible so and the USB interface is also kind of an extra bridge so in my experience Wireless cards that plug into PCI slots are much better good question though let's see let's see mr. Bob 20 to you our cards with pre-installed water blocks good generally yeah I mean it's gonna depend on the PCB though so it might be a custom PCB with better power delivery standards higher power tolerances more overclocking Headroom stuff like that you got to find out what the PCB exactly is if it's a Founders edition card it's no different in overclocking terms than a regular you know GTX 1080 by from a video store so you got a look at the PCB and one more one more let's see something good something good let's see here something good let's see I see Nathaniel turkmen GS 65 stealth in opinion I looked at it I don't like the way those look I did I like smaller form factor of laptops my epic exper might drool over because it's just like the perfect size 13 inches thirteen point nine inch screen no bezels basically and it's got a dedicated graphics chip in it so - I would go for that over gaming laptop just because I don't like how how terrible gaming like gaming laptop batteries are there their batteries like they drain so quick and I mean at that point why if you had to keep it plugged in everywhere you go just build the desktop anyway let's see let's see I see you guys 4k high refresh rate at a good price you're not gonna find that 4k 60 Hertz is all you're gonna find at a good price at this point let's see let's see nice Irish Patel do you think the price of the 1060 will drop after new GPU outcome that's a good question and let's go ahead and we'll end there I see mr. KF camiĆ³n that's your question as well cuz your your a channel members I'll get to you in a second - but Sarge I will say this if it's anything like it was last time around right with Maxwell falling behind Pascal when it was released we saw prices of like 960 YZ 959 77 fall about a hundred bucks or so apiece we talked about a little bit the live stream but my anticipation is that when these new cards are launched which will be very very very soon we will see gradual price drops obviously these cars are going to be released instantly not going to get your hands on one instantly I'm sure there will be shortages and stuff like that there were there was last time but if it's anything like last time release Pascal's release I would say that 1060 is going to drop to roughly 200 bucks if it drops any lower than that I'd say it's gonna be a really good deal because anything over 200 bucks for 1060 or comparable 980 performance you know if you want talk about Maskell or Maxwell performance is a really good value but it's not going to drop to 200 bucks instantly it'll take time and if it drops below 200 bucks and then money in my opinion because 10 60s right now are still around 250 $300 it's tough they've always been slightly more expensive than their rx counterparts but they're good cards there's definitely thing wrong with a 1060 and mr. KF gaming hey Greg what's smart which smartphone are you most hyped about for each Oh which smartphone you most hype for each year I see I really like what LG does I've been using the V 30 for quite a while I love the V 30 and I think that I think in general LG does really cool things with their phones I think the g7 looks stupid though I'll say that like they have the knotch and they have a chin I think it was a terrible choice they should've done when iPhone did and just go with no chin but I feel like they were limited by their technology maybe but the V I like the V Series the V 30 is a really good phone the V 35 e30 plus all those different variants of the B 30 I really like those so LG keeps me on my toes I also am looking forward to the pixel 3 and it's really about it I mean obviously what I would Apple does next as well just because I like seeing what weird new innovative thing Apple's gonna do so we'll see by the way yes tech crimson a link to the discord you can check out the discord link down below as well if you want to join our open public discord you can chat with myself you can chat with Brian from tech es city we share the discord together and we can get our tech on I see a lot of questions here I'm sorry guys it's really there's a lot of questions here I try to answer as many as I could within an hour and thirty minutes or so I'm gonna eat dinner cuz I haven't done that yet because I'm a straight baller and I prefer working before I eat because once I eat I get lazy and I sit down on the couch and fall asleep so I got that plan for tonight but thank you guys for watching at this Sunday night or Monday morning Monday afternoon depending on where you live on the planet we do this every Sunday night Central Time 9:00 p.m. CST here so translate that accordingly and these are all asked me anything Q&A so you can ask anything you don't have to be about tech you see we talked about immigration other things today but I think that this is a good kind of culmination of you know weekly synopsis of all the channels or all the different videos that we upload every week we can talk about stuff that we described and discussed and showcased in videos you can ask my opinions on products you can ask me what's worth it this or this and I can give you my opinion on that as well and you guys have been really helpful giving me plenty of content these live streams to talk about so thank you all for that the 200 to 300 of you watching and yeah now we're gonna spam the chat so to end this live stream I invite all of you to spam the chat with your favorite emojis now I want to see them you can see tech crimson right now is spamming the chat I want all of you to do it as well so your favorite emojis I see him rolling in I love that you guys did this and I didn't even have to tell you this is awesome so start give me the best ones I'm gonna give you shout outs if I can see you and we will end the livestream so let's see here I see obviously tech crimson with this first one I see ally the King I see who else we got away from the rolling a little bit oh there they go there they I see him now I got Denny Blanco maybe that full metal bard heals names are so funny brought Percy yeah I see you let's see we got a terror skip Escalade Bob Bob 1 2 3 full render 74 what's going on I see shizune I see Thor Cox I see Dan Stewart I see Eric I see Thor again I see oh my Macca Ville I see you I see Bobby Z I see no key 1 1 1 7 I see Bob Bob again I see oh my gosh nice Irish Patel Robinson Joe with the rock on I see that alright that's my dad right there let's see phantom freaky Corey Mooney I'm seeing all Jesus so many of them in here I'm seeing J Meister I'm seeing another one from Cory Mooney we're getting all the good stuff in here now folks invulnerable guy geez and as Bosley all right Nathan Tordjman reviews bow to Beast all right folks I appreciate the spamming of the chat and we'll try a little better next time George TP I see you 1990 O'Neal Alfredo oppa now they're rolling in maybe we were a little late and I'm seeing them all coming now Bacardi Batman you guys are awesome and I love ending the stream this way I get to give you guys shout outs for watching them commando what's going on Jay's random videos Kevin I see you and paradox 15 you guys are lit all right we're gonna in the live stream thank you guys for watching please stay tuned we will be back here again next Sunday night 9 p.m. CST stay tuned tomorrow by the way or in about 12 hours or so our d lid and liquid metal application of the 8700 k from intel will be going up on the channel it's like a 16 minute video but it's really cool I outline how to do it and talk about temps and all the benefits regarding that so yeah discord check out the discord you guys spamming I appreciate it and again we will see you next week this is science studio thanks for laughs chatting with us
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