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yo what's going on everyone we have a problem with the winter build now this is the film room if you're not familiar with this it's pretty bare right now and everything's kind of cleaned and tucked away because we're not doing anything too extensive right now project wise we're getting ready for Computex I'll be traveling to Switzerland in a few days I'm excited about that I get to see my wife finally after two months of being apart but we have an issue in this video this is the winter build version - I put it together in this card right here I'm about you to check it out if you haven't seen that before watching this video but the coolant in here is just really causing problems now to be more specific do you see the transparent fluid in there right especially on that top port of the CPU block that shouldn't be transparent in fact this entire building was using opaque cool and it was an opaque white additive that I added to distilled and treated water I'll show you guys all that and I'll just show you some b-roll as well so you can see what it was like beforehand and then obviously what it looks like now is totally different the coolant looks like it's completely transparent the opaque particles have basically dissolved out of solution and I guess are sticking to the walls of the ptg tubing maybe there's a ton of it in their radiator I hope not that's gonna be a pain to get out and then you can see also especially the bottom of the reservoir again it's transparent you couldn't see that little primo chill logo I guess it's like a fluid separator keeps things from getting too turbulent in there that is something you couldn't see before you can see it now because again the fluid is transparent so we're gonna take down this this whole build we're gonna tear it apart I'm gonna try to get to the bottom of why this happened and show you guys just you know how big a pain it is to maintain a custom loop with opaque coolant to begin with show you a few more clips especially with the PC turned on you'll see it better in the end the extra light that we have with the LED strips in the case but yeah this is definitely stuck to the tubing and when we turn it on which I'll go ahead and do now you'll see that it remains stuck to the pthe and is not you know super fluid so that's an issue that's to build up and if it's happening in the in the tubing then it's definitely happening elsewhere my biggest concern against probably the radiator just because it's difficult to clean that you can see it's also kind of kicked up in the cpu block this is a nickel nickel plated block excuse me so you know nickel is very unreactive and so we shouldn't be seeing this as a result of any sort of galvanic corrosion I do believe this is just the the particles right the opaque particles in the fluid additive that are falling out of solution and sticking to especially fine channels in the block as well as in the radiator you see here's a side shot of the reservoir and same story the dissolved solids are no longer dissolved they fallen out of solution and are sticking to the inside walls of the reservoir I cannot wait to tear that radiator apart and see just how nasty and gunked-up it is in those channels so this right here is primo chill true it's an opaque coolant concentration mix and you would apply essentially this entire bottle to approximately one gallon of deionized water I didn't use all of it because I don't have a full gallon worth of fluid in my loop in fact I probably added a little less than I needed to given you know the size of this system I didn't want it to be too thick right because then you increase your odds exponentially of this stuff you know this crap here gunking up your system so unless you want to do maintenance every two weeks which I'd that would be a serious pain don't add too much of this stuff you just you don't want to do that you know they recommend I think this is eight ounces is it ad true 8 ounce coolant mix yeah so it's a full 8 ounce bottle here to an entire gallon of deionized water you know use this at your own risk all this stuff really not just from pretty much over any opaque coolant additive is going to dramatically increase the odds of having thing like this and go wrong with your beautiful custom Lube that you've worked so hard on alright so now we're gonna turn this PC off and tear the entire thing down clean the CPU block clean the radiator it's gonna be a depressing and long job for sure but it needs to be done because this shouldn't be operating as is especially with that cpu block looking pretty clogged in they're worried about CPU temps in the long run and I don't even know what it's been doing to the fittings if any of that coolant you know that that additive stuff has been gunking up the fittings and reducing pressure that hold that it has on each of the PE TG tubes you know you just never know with this kind of stuff so it's best just to tear it all down and learn from your mistakes I guess I you know I figured I did this correctly but uh that's what you get for going with opaque stuff you know the guys that are always like you know we go with distilled water that's the best way to do it's the only way to do it I mean they're kind of right right because it's low maintenance water itself is not going to corrode anything unless you put something else in it to accelerate that corrosion as long as using you know metals that are supposed to be used together and in this case we just have a premature rad which is I believe a copper rad and then a nickel-plated CPU block but nickel and copper aren't going to react anywhere near this fast so this is not galvanic corrosion I do believe this is just an issue with the opaque additive okay so what you're seeing here is the CPU block now this is torn down and washed but I haven't actually taken it apart yet and cleaned out inside those fins so all of these deposits in here are basically caked in and these are actually solid deposits that are blocking these channels here and the channels are important because it increases surface area it allows the fluid in the loop to transfer heat away from the CPU block so this is not good this is actually really nasty and this is actually gonna be a pain to clean out as well and if you use a vinegar or something along those lines to get this stuff that's baked in out of it again and there it is in all its glory and that is just gross you can actually see which direction the fluid traveled because you have like particle buildup on one side and then just where the fluid stained those channels on the other and here's the top half of the CPU block this is just an acrylic top and it is pretty gross here as well you can actually see individual channels or where this fluid stained the acrylic it's it's really gross and this is definitely not not good in the long run all right now the second thing to check out is the tubing and I pulled this one this is one of the runs that connects to the CPU block and this thing is just so dirty I'm gonna show you a few shots here of it from different angles I can't find any place on this run in particular that is perfectly clear whatever it is that these little solids that fell out of solution have basically coated the inside walls of the tubing with this one in particular and it is just it's so bad I there's there seriously no place on this tube or it's not just covered with this the white powder well okay I take it back right here this is actually a basically ninety degree Bend and you can see you kind of have fluid flows so there's less resistance on the inside wall to the tubing here because the fluid is a tendency right to travel in a straight line so all of the particles were forced onto the outside which is why the outside is sorry about the camera autofocus the outside is mostly coated but the inside really isn't so it's kind of cool to see you know fluid motion fluid dynamics in action part of what I studied in college but yeah so this is probably the only clear part of this entire bent and it's pretty sad and basically the same story here with the reservoir again pretty foggy a lot of deposits on the inside walls I actually found a way to clean this though I clean one of the tubing runs and I'll show you guys how I did that if you want to recycle these should you run into a problem similar to this one but I will need some feedback though because I'm not sure how exactly this reacts with the PE TG so you see it now it's pretty dirty and we're gonna snap our fingers and here's the tube now you see pretty much spotless and it's because I used a vinegar now I don't have white vinegar I'd recommend that because it's not colored but I only had a red vinegar on hand a red wine vinegar to be specific so it's a little unorthodox but it does clean the inside of the ptg tubing very well I'm just not sure about corrosion if the vinegar actually eats into the ptg it all doesn't look like it's reactive but I'm gonna defer to you guys down below if you're I don't know a chemist or something along those lines if you think that it reacts be sure to let me know because I want to recommend something that would destroy ptg in the long run or acrylic I'll see ya looking pretty clean thus far I'm going to go ahead and a treat the radiator now to the vinegar test as well and that's gonna be perfectly fine there's just copper and that won't react with vinegar and we're gonna see how much sludge we have in that red because I think it's gonna be pretty bad look tubing was bad the rads gonna be pretty disgusting alright and here is the last piece the radiator this is going to be more than likely the worst one to clean and that's why I have red wine vinegar on hand again I recommend white vinegar but any kind of acid solution should work pretty fine with this as long as it doesn't react with the copper inside we really need to clean these channels I'm sure they are just super gunked-up right now and I've drained all the fluid that I possibly can from this so anything excess that comes out is just gunked-up and stuck in there so hopefully the vinegar loosens it up all right so you guys so how disgusting that radiator was and took quite a bit of flushing with that red wine vinegar I don't recommend again using that but it did definitely clean this rat out it smells nice and clean inside and this is something I recommend doing before you ever throw a radiator into a custom loop up front you want to wash it flush it with vinegar even soap and water if that's all you got just make sure you flush it at least once or twice because most of the time these will have some gunk some metal deposits left in there from when the rats were manufactured you want to get that out before you throw it into a customer because it'll cycle through the rest of the components in the loop and could potentially clog things up so what should you take from this video the fact that opaque coolants or opaque mixes are risky they're gonna require a lot of maintenance look just one month in my system and I already had tubing that was stained my radiator was extremely clogged and my CPU block was pretty much the same and and that's something I experienced before with thermal take opaque coolant as well not the white c1000 going in particular this one I haven't actually tested yet but the blue c1 doesn't cool it from the thermal take basically clog to everything in my system so I haven't had any luck yet with opaque coolants and that's kind of what you get when you add something other than just distilled water which is the go-to it's an easy solution and you're not gonna have many issues at all really when it comes to clogs and the stains because again you have no additives in there saves maybe something to prevent algae growth but you certainly don't want in any custom loop of yours so take this video for what it is stay away from opaque colons if you're afraid of routine maintenance and in my personal opinion I don't think that the amount of work that goes into maintaining an opaque fluid justifies how much better it might look in a system so you know having an opaque coolant like white red blue looks great for a short while but I guarantee you're gonna hate tearing everything apart and cleaning it when the time comes especially when you notice your temperatures start to spike which means that your entire loop is clogging likely as a result of the additives in the fluid to make it opaque if you like its video let me know give this one a thumbs up I appreciate it thumbs down for the OP so you click that red subscribe button if you haven't I you could sponsor us as well by clicking the button right next to its ratted perks and livestreams comment sections access to our free discord Channel and everything else links down below in the video description this is science studio thanks for cleaning with us