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my 5,700 XT and na HT reviews are a bit late to the party so I figured I'd give you everything in one lump sum and one advantage I do have in this regard is the ability to test right on latest offerings in terms of drivers and the most recent driver the one that I use for all of these tests was released on July 16th so it's rather modern I plan to test six different cards they're all in front of me you can't see them but it's a lot of them here and prices range from the low to mid to hundreds up to the high 400s depending on where you look so hold on to your pants the be quiet dark rock slim maybe small but it also packs one heck of a punch won't interfere with your system RAM because it's super slim it's also super easy to install and it looks mighty fine and virtually any brick oh and did I mention the cooler runs quiet I know nothing in the products name would have suggested it okay I'll be quiet now grab the dark rock slim via the link in this video's description by this point I'm sure you're already familiar with how both meet 5700 and xt reference cards look love it or hate it the xt variant sports the signature dent next to the right illuminated Radeon logo it also has a backplate whereas the 5700 the cheaper of the two does not both support an 8 + 6 pin supplement of power config and both run fairly hot to say the least I'm gonna get thermals out of the way first because I think it'd be unfair to compare reference cards which traditionally run hot to AI B's with custom air coolers out of the box Navi in its reference form is hot very hot this graph represents idle and low GPU temps for each card the load scenario until a 30 minute 3d mark fire strike ultra loop low temps our max temps in this case clearly our AMD cards are struggling a bit particularly the newest reference models the other cards on this chart come nowhere close to this temperature under load even our reference RT X 2060 this is technically a reference card I'll be it's also Nvidia calls of the founders of sedition cards but these are designed much differently and as a result they run a much quieter and cooler under load I do expect a I B's will perform significantly better in this regard and it's one of the reasons why I suggest you wait a while before buying one of the 57 hundreds by the way I'd take these idle temps here with a grain of salt some of these cards shut off their fans below a certain temperature so they're inclined to stay a bit hotter for longer under idle conditions and as you can expect the hotter cards tend to run a bit louder with the Radeon 5700 and XT models topping the charts at around 44 decibels apiece our mega 56 card that's this beefy card right here AIB from power color actually ran pretty quiet under load but was plagued with coil whine which brought it up to around 40 decibels this would have been around 38 decibels had the coil whine not been present it's that loud I actually just ran the card with fans to about the same rpm as what they were under load and of course the cards technically not under load when you're just you know spooling up the fans so that came out around 30 decibels so yeah bit of coil line there and it's detectable in this mega 56 variant but the other cards really didn't have much of that speaking of which I haven't properly introduced the other cards tested here first we have the gigabyte RTX 2070 super it's the most expensive card in our list but also the most powerful and if you're into realistic reflections and flashy lighting baked-in arty and tensor cores are a nice bonus it all depends on who you are and what you play now in addition to the 2070 super we have the 2070 from gigabyte and this one's in white so it's easy for me at least to distinguish between the two it has a noticeably smaller cooler you can see it's not as beefy as the 2070 Super but it still delivers excellent thermal performance and cooling metrics up next is the RT X 2060 this is the FE model and I've covered it in a dedicated video up here my thoughts really haven't changed much since then last we have the Vega 56 I just showed you from power color in the mix because why not alright Vega cards have come down considerably in price as of late and I'm curious how it stacks up to some of the bigger boys on this list it just might be able to punch above its weight class so with that out of the way the last thing to quickly address is our test bench 8600 K 16 gigs of DDR for a Z 370 motherboard from MSI and to be quiet dark rock slim our operating system is loaded onto a SATA m2 and all games were loaded from a 2 terabyte hard drive and for those wondering our core i5 wasn't a bottleneck in any of these scenarios I bumped up anti-aliasing and other things that are gonna put a heavy load on the graphics card in fact the only scenario in which the CPU was even being somewhat heavily utilized was in 3d mark where our our overall scores would include the CPU results as well graphics scores though are differentiated and I included those in our graphs so I started with remark firestrike and this will give us a general assessment of graphical horsepower in the dx11 api and to my surprise the 5700 xt did an excellent job keeping up with the higher price 2070 super there was a bit of variance in our CPU scores but overall things were virtually neck and neck and to be honest the 5700 wasn't far behind that's the nan XT variant moving on to fire strike extreme which bumps the res up to 1440p the gap is nearly identical I'm seriously shocked here you'd think for the price the 5700 XT would be falling behind as it becomes the bottleneck but nope let's hope this continues into our other games though but quickly our last fire strike testifier strike ultra in 4k and yet the two are trading blows yet again good news for the red team so far at least moving on to grand theft auto 5 you'll find a very similar trend the 2070 super of course comes out on top followed by its non-super counterpart followed by the 5700 xt interesting note here the two latest raid on cards struggled hard down low with the lowest one percent and point one percent of frames especially coming in at under 40 FPS suggesting infrequent and sharp stuttering our Vega 56 card came in last but it's also the cheapest card on this list by far and held its own even among the lowest 1% and 0.1% of frames up next f1 2017 literally flips the script with respect to our lower frame averages I was kind of shocked by this our r-tx card struggled a great deal here literally all of them and I'm not sure why exact same settings in 1440p I really can't even say I've seen this in some of my older tests so I'm not sure this is like the specific driver that's causing these issues or if it's a game update I have no idea when I can say however is that average frame rates fall in line roughly where we'd expect them to further down the list the 50 720 60 nearly taeyeon average and the xt actually outperforms the super across-the-board by the way all of these benches were conducted at least twice for consistency's sake if I thought numbers were a bit too far apart between runs I ran a third test to narrow down the variance just in case you're wondering or doubting these numbers I wanted to test a few games with newer api's as well and that that's where games like ashes of the singularity and shadow of the Tomb Raider come in here I honestly expected the RX 5700 XT to win and it did come awfully close in fact medium and heavy loads were nearly indistinguishable as for the 5700 well yeah it absolutely creamed the Arctic 20 60 and nearly tied our Vega 56 which mind you is a 100 USD cheaper on eBay in dx12 again shadow of a Tomb Raider gave us a win for the 5700 over the r-tx 2060 but a loss for the XT model over the 2070 super this is an Nvidia optimized title after all but it'd be nice to see things scale rather linearly here with respect to price and that is what we're seeing for the most part even 95% averages scale this way in 1440p with the highest preset and a bit of anti-aliasing another non dx11 title that I was sure to test was a doom in the Vulkan API everything performed incredibly well across the board and e-card struggled a bit more download to my surprise but the experience all around was definitely playable nailed to preset and perhaps this says a bit more about the API and less about the cards themselves since virtually every one of them was hitting in the 200 FPS cap at some point I should also point out that this benchmark is entirely dependent on my ability to retrace steps the idea is to be as repetitive as possible to introduce this little variance as possible and it isn't always perfect lastly a tested Witcher 3 is a pretty graphically intensive game and again our RX 5700 fell a bit short among the lowest point 1 percent of frames in fact it was definitely noticeable while benchmarking there were several stutters here and there and that said in terms of overall averages we don't see anything really out of place the 5700 ties of the 2060 and the xt keeps up with the 2070 nvidia cards do tend to perform a bit better here which is why i'm always sure to turn off things like hair works in the ultra preset what I ultimately think this comes down to though is driver optimization we're still in the early stages for these aren't our X cards for the 5,700 NXT and if you look at our Vega 56 actually that's a card that's been allowed to mature for quite a while now manage quite well even down low so we'll revisit games like these at a later date once the drivers have matured so from the games tested here my conclusion is this Nvidia cards by and large are still running a bit more expensive what you're getting though for that trade-off is a lower TDP which translates more effective cooling you get quieter cards in general as a consequence of that you get driver sets that at least in my experience aren't always as bulky out of the gate and yeah look that's I do think the RX said you said 100 and XP variants are great values despite what they give up and we're just talking about reference cards here I do expect a IDs to do better jobs in the cooling Department pretty typical and not an outlandish expectation I also expect drivers to improve with time certain games will fare better than others we saw the XT occasionally trading blows with higher price 20 70s but the fact remains that Nvidia cards at this point are more refined is that AMD's fault kind of but kind of not and to say all that to say this if I was buying a solid 1440p graphics card today I'd honestly pick none of these cards I still think the 27 TS are too expensive in their AI be forms justify the often marginal performance gains over early 57 or XT samples and even RT X 20 60s and in my opinion our Tech's 2060s are almost kind of redundant I think that the 1660 ti comes awfully close in many games and lacks RT and tensor cores to keep the price nice and low it can handle 1440p albeit with a few in-game compromises and stays nice and cool thanks to a low-power draw and thermal output as it stands the RX 5700 and XT are great values but they come with hefty compromises in their current forms which I expect AI DS to change it's only a matter of time and then we can compare true value for money cards speaking of which a bit off-topic here I must shift to this card I think that our Vega 56 from power color surprised me it actually would trade blows with the 1660 ti which I mean that's pretty good at this price point it is gonna consume more power but this one's got a beefy cooler to keep temps in check and sound didn't check worth considering if you're in the market for a used card that packs a punch that's all for this one though thanks for watching remember to subscribe click that bell and consider becoming a member if you're feeling fancy science studio thanks for benchmarks