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remember when Jenson Wang said that new graphics cards weren't coming for a long time when's the next GeForce the next job I'm gonna invite you guys done don't worry I promise you know you guys not only will you be invited you know there probably be lunch question back there oh I won't forget you I promise yeah a little that's a direct quote and we took him at his word I mean he's the CEO of Nvidia after all and this announcement was largely attributed to the inventory influx many reference to report that nearly 300,000 graphics cards were returned by a single AI B meaning gigabyte or a VGA or MSI one of them returned quite a few either because they didn't sell or because customers wanted refunds either way it's bad news but massive contracts like these must be fulfilled regardless of market ups and downs that's why they exist in the first place and that may just open the door for enthusiasts gamers and builders that like ourselves so let me give you some context let's say EVGA enters into a contract with Nvidia whereby they agreed to absorb large inventory levels spread out over a given time period these are usually PCBs even if they manufacture their own third-party PCBs the stuff comes from Nvidia and the GPUs the memory all that's contracted in so in the case of Pascal that contract might last two or three years and most abies don't sell generation old equipment once the new stuff rolls out and that makes sense demand typically shifts right immediately from the old stuff to the new stuff once the next-gen stuff hits the market and like every new release there's always a last-minute splurge of fresh deals on new but almost old hardware so in this case we expect to find some great deals on GTX 10 70s 10 80s and even 10 ATT is the lower end cards are an exception we'll discuss that more shortly but if you're a savvy hunter on sites like Amazon and Newegg I know I am I check most every day you've likely noticed some great 1070 and 1080 deals currently 10 ApS are selling for as low as 450 bucks which is roughly what 10 seventies cost new when they were first released this is great news signifying a sharp rebound from mining crazed prices when 10 80s were going for as much as a thousand bucks and above just a little ridiculous taking a look at PC part picker price trends we see 1070 prices levelling out now at around 400 USD whereas in January of this year things had peaked to near 800 USD and they were selling at that price which is why the market was at equilibrium a similar inflection occurred for higher to your cards just gonna throw that out there but today we can see how things have actually leveled off at or below original MSRP keep in mind that the black line is the overall average but several cards are selling for lower than this price quick glances at new I can Amazon like I said reveal fairly competitive prices RT X announcements aside GTX 10 60s and 1050 t eyes and even 10 50s however have struggled to retain original prices post a bubble 6 kid 10 60s launch for roughly 250 bucks back in 2016 but today you'd be hard-pressed to find anything for less than $300 3d models sure there's plenty of those out there but you'll be limiting yourself in certain titles and as point out I'll recommend buying 3 gig 1060 the reasons for resilient prices and these categories though are limited in scope simply put these cards were less affected by the mining bubble they were neither as popular and nor as a as their 1070 and rx counterparts so they didn't sell in the highs of miners gamers looking for high-end cards were forced down the spectrum to ten sixties and ten 50s which were already extremely popular to begin with it's starting to Thunder outside that's not good that means you guys might hear some weird rumbling I apologize for that but look budget-minded gamers were always interested in ten sixties and ten fifties anyway just take a look at this team survey there is a huge jump when it comes to 1060 use over the past two years since the launch basically and that's because there's some of the best gaming cards for the money so I don't advise purchasing a lower tier graphics card at this time unless you need one right away we just aren't sure what Nvidia will do in the coming months with this category it usually takes them a while longer to roll out the lower tier cards in each generation and the prices just aren't competitive enough to recommend given their levels of performance I mean use 980ti is 9 80s and 9 70s will do just fine in the two to three hundred dollar market if you're looking for something that's a little cheaper than 1060 that will give you comparable performance but anything higher than this and you've got some serious thinking to do and that's why this video exists I've already milked the Nvidia r-tx launch so I won't spend much time talking about it here you can't check out these videos in the cards up top or in the video description if you want more context into the launch but I thought about it what you should expect instead what I want to throw out here are a few ER scenarios right to help you relate because you might be wondering if purchasing now is even an option so scenario a RT X is everything a gamer wanted 50 plus percent performance increases per tier over previous Pascal cards great drivers out of the gate and suboptimal prices I think that's the politically correct term to use in the midst of Nvidia fanboys remember opinions based on historical context are considered clickbait and 2018 folks to be careful out there so with this scenario the obvious reaction is to wait right for the launch and dump money into the new family of GPUs right well no and this is why pre-ordering is stupid even if we assume a comparable performance jump with that of Maxwell - Pascal the price jumps between each tier narrow the playing field because our text across the board is more expensive in RTX 2070 may bring 10 atti performance with a lower TDP but compared to last gens margins it's a lackluster even assuming that roughly 50% performance a jump which I have a strong feeling won't be the case for these cards we're looking at maybe 25 to 40% give or take so these suspicions again are explained in the previous videos that I pointed to the Maxwell - Pascal jump it was so significant because the 90 DTI performance could be had in a 1070 for 400 bucks which saved the consumer nearly 250 dollars on average but this time around the margins for consumers are slim or non-existent and that's again stressing the assumptions here that the 2070 will actually pull out 1080p high performance and that the 2080 TI will be like this huge jump over the 1080 TI which will see it is possible given the coup de coeur disparity but several additional factors are at play and those are again discussed in the previous videos now let's move on to scenario two RTX - what's our tax performance is subpar we're seeing roughly 20 percent performance gains with this assumption over a Pascal tier 4 tier and in this case choosing to wait for the launch is absolutely ridiculous of course you'd have to know the yields of these cards beforehand but let's ignore that for now obviously gains are gains and we should expect Turing gaming cards to outlast their inferiors but this is where the margins truly matter which is why pre-ordering under any sense makes absolutely no sense what if we assume your plan was to preorder in RTX 2017 one of those may run you what around 600 bucks or so an attendee bTW I may cost around the same or less depending on when you buy it but you run the risk of the 2070 pushing fewer frames at higher settings in the 1080 TI this again is where the margins really matter is that a risk you'd be willing to take on account of a pre-order because in that scenario you'd be better off just buying a 1080 TI and maybe saving some money in the long run inside Turing is 18.9 billion transistors this GPU this chip is the second largest chip the world has ever made the GeForce r-tx 20 series computer graphics reinvented the craftsmanship is unbelievable this is the best design we have ever done everything from the voltage to power regulation and the thermal management system it is designed for overclocking crazy amounts of overclocking not to mention it is just so quiet 10 gig arrays 78 trillion RTX ops 11 gigabyte frame buffer starting at $4.99 like it sounds redundant at this point I get it and videos loving all the tech tuber exposure here but all of us at this point have made what two or three videos in the subject and most of us agree that pre-ordering is stupid and that's why I'm stressing it in this video again because I feel as though for the first time and a good while people are either blindly going into this or wholeheartedly resenting the launch and I frankly despise both think it's okay to be skeptical but it's not okay to blindly hate the alternative is also true blind love cuts both ways you'll win some and lose some all I intended my videos to do was to get you thinking about the oddities of this launch I wanted to call it a question a change of pace and voice my skepticism something I believe should go hand in hand with science we once believed the star is revolved around the earth it took a few skeptics to change our perspective and many of them are persecuted for it I'm merely offering an alternative point of view yet some still may believe that my opinion is clickbait garbage and that AMD pays my bills AM D hasn't even been in the game frankly for high-end gaming at this point and if you ask me Vega 56 and 64 for a majority of gamers were absolute flops I mean the RX 480 and 580 and 570 and 470 and whatever those were fine but 56 and 64 were not at the game so yeah I'm skeptical this launch very and to answer the first point in this video why did Jensen mislead all of us Turin gaming cards warrant last-minute I mean maybe he wanted folks to buy up current Pascal supplies maybe tried to scare the public after all they had quite the surplus post mining bubble right and now they're auditioning off the excess supply to a Ivy's so the problem is now there's what do you guys think let me know in the comments below some more of a news video but I do want to bring all this to your attention and tell you kind of what I think about buying a card now versus later especially if you just really got your eye on like a 1080 or 1080i for a good price in my opinion if you want to buy one now you're not gonna be disappointed with 1080 performance or 1080 high performance I don't think that our TX cards are gonna be a huge step up you're not gonna regret your purchase now is what I'm trying to tell you because you're gonna end up paying the same amount of money for the same performance or more depending on how the r-tx launch and it plays out and how benchmarks roll out in time I don't have our TX samples and videos never contacted me for any graphics card launch and he has not Nvidia I'm not bitter about it it's not why I'm upset I mean I was all for the Pascal launch but now things are weird and I wonder what you guys think I know you've already voiced your concerns most of you but if you haven't yet speak up because it means a lot that you guys actually participate in the comments because I read almost all of them especially from the first day of the videos posting I'm gonna shut up now give this video a thumbs up we thought it's cool dislike it feeling a bit opposite click that red subscribe button if you haven't already you can join it so we want to be super special become on science studio member and get badges and icons and all that cool stuff catch you in the next video this is science studio thanks for learning with us