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Ryzen+ 2700X with a Cheap B350 Motherboard?

2018-04-20
alright so in this video as the title suggests we're going to throw a risin plus namely the 2700 X into a be 350 motherboard this will be a really short video I'm going to talk about the process behind how to do that not the CPU installation but how to update your BIOS so that the board will be compatible with Rison plus and then we're gonna see if we can hit the same overclocks on the 2700 X that we were able to hit with a pretty boss X 470 board from MSI if you haven't already seen my 2700 X review video I invite you to watch that first I click in this card right here otherwise we're gonna jump right into it first off by updating that UEFI the mother where we're gonna use by the way is the MSI and be 350 tomahawk Arctic it's a white PCB board I'm using it because I think it looks really good I think it's actually pretty good value for the money and we're going to eventually be comparing this to a different platform that's the video coming up right after this one so stay tuned now but for now again let's go ahead and update that UEFI so what you're looking at now is the MSI B through three board paired with an EVGA 1070 TI for the 1/2 the same card we use to benchmark the 2700 X originally but the CPU in there this time is the 17-yard X this is a summit rich CPU and this is very important because unless you buy them other word brand-new like today and even then you might not get the most up-to-date BIOS you're gonna need that up-to-date BIOS in order to boot initially into the new Rison plus CPUs out of sheer curiosity before filming this part of the video I actually tested the 2700 X and just straight up in here raw doggin up without the UEFI update and all I got was a black screen so everything looks functional it's not gonna give you any error code or anything like that but you're not gonna get an official post until the ufi is updated so just FYI so the first thing I want to do navigate to your motherboard vendors website in my case it will be a mess I just type in the full name of your motherboard and then you can navigate from there to the service tab click here and then BIOS it might not be called service by the way it might be called something else but you'll get the idea to be where all of the software is stored on their website for that given product we of course want the latest BIOS you can see here update a GSA this is good for the new up-and-coming processors so go ahead and download this and then once it saves you're gonna want to open the folder which it saved and act it if you click into the extracted folder you'll find the h20 file this is the official update here and then we have a text file here just kind of showing the same thing that the website already did now this is where a thumb drive will come in handy you're gonna want to plug this into your system and then drag that entire folder onto your thumb drive make sure it's still plugged into your PC by the way when you reboot so again drag the entire folder containing the BIOS into your USB Drive and then you're gonna want to restart your system and then keep spamming delete until you're prompted into your BIOS now depending on your vendor you're gonna see an option similar to in flash or I think in the case of gigabyte it's called cue flash but this will basically reboot your system and enter flash mode for you there might be a dedicated switch to do this without hopping into your BIOS directly but you want to click on this it'll say something flash and then your system will reset and then boot and try to look for that BIOS all right so you're pretty straightforward you can see this is our USB Drive with new BIOS loaded onto it and just according to the date here we know this one and good old 420 here is our BIOS click it again are you sure you want to select this file click yes this is a hc0 file and your system will update its BIOS by the way this process could take a while it's been here for about 3 or 4 minutes now so don't freak out whatever you do though just as the screen suggests do not turn your PC off let it run the entire time otherwise you have a brick to bios and latha get a new chip or just an entirely new motherboard and another thing after it finishes flashing your PC might reboot more than once again just let it power cycle on its own I don't know why it says preparing automatic repair but again just don't touch anything let it and correct itself and you should be alright I think right now it's gonna push me into recovery mode because it just reset itself three or four times yeah so just click continue ok so it's still showing this and I'm pretty sure the reason why it's doing that is because we updated the BIOS right so all of our settings internally or reset I'm just going to spam delete until we're pushed into the BIOS instead of Windows because I think it's trying to boot into the wrong draw but do have a hard drive in here that has nothing but Steam games on it so that could be the reason why you reify hard-disk this is booting into yep okay so this is trying to boot into the into the HDD which is not correct we want the SSD although I don't see I don't see the Windows boot manager option let us try switching DBS priorities should be in this one that's what we want I'll begin and there we go it's now it's going to boot into Windows boot manager SSD there's a difference between that and just booting into the SSD there are different partitions so keep that in mind all right and we're gonna save it there we go no more automatic repair so again you might have to reconfigure some initial BIOS settings if you had things set it the way you wanted even your fan curves and things you might have to update again overclocks all of that and we're back in the system no issues at all alright so now the fun part comes up we're gonna swap CPUs and we're gonna boot directly into the BIOS make sure things being read correctly and then we will try for that four point two beer its overclock turned off the power supply when I did this and alright check that out so we have a fresh boot into well almost our BIOS and we're reading everything correctly AMD Rison 720 700 X 16 gigs of ram our two drives so awesome we're gonna press f1 and boot into our BIOS we're gonna go into advanced first click overclock again this will vary from BIOS to BIOS and then we're gonna go ahead and shoot for 4.2 gigahertz again there we go I think I was able to hit one point three eight volts with the 2700 X but in this case one point four is sufficient for four point two hopefully now regarding RAM I'm gonna go ahead and enable XMP this is something that I was never able to do on a be 350 board with the original risin summit ridge CPUs so I'm gonna go full-on hardcore here with ddr4 3200 megahertz these are Corsair Vengeance RGB Ram modules this is exactly the same ones that we used for the previous video and this has a default on XP profile to set to 3200 megahertz so let's just see I doubt this will work on B 350 but let's go ahead and give it a shot alright so we've booted in the operating system without a hitch and I'm pulling up hardware info now see if our RAM frequency stuck and sure enough folks check it out you can see right here it says ddr4 3200 and course this is double data rates of 1600 megahertz here on one 8 gig dim and we'd swap for for the other one and same thing so it looks like these frequencies are sticking and our CP frequencies as well we're gonna run prime95 here and see how stable it actually is alright let's see here system is getting pretty loud but looks like it's looks like it's stable at 4.2 gigahertz in one point nope no it locked up there okay so yeah system's frozen let's go ahead and power cycle I'm gonna probably bump the voltage up there like 1.4 to 5 which is about as high as I'm comfortable with long term and let's see if it's any more stable alright let's give it one more shot this time again I'm gonna monitor package temps up top hardware monitor does not have support yet for full on per core temperature readings but we'll at least get you know a rough estimate of what our package temps will be like with prime95 something else to stress this is like an absolute worst case torture test so even if it doesn't pass this per se could still be quote unquote stable you know with most workloads and it froze up again so I'm gonna go ahead and call this one a no-go at 4.2 just to be on the safe side we're gonna clock it down to 4 point 1 gigahertz which will allow us to drop voltage significantly and then we'll give this one more go alright so here we go this time at four point one of your Hertz and one point three five volts which is probably higher than I need it but I want to make sure things are stable when we run this test and here we go I'm gonna keep moving the window around just to make sure things aren't locking up and you know if it can pass 30 seconds of prime95 like I'd call that pretty darn stable things are looking great package temps are approaching ADC which is on the upper limit for sure this is a 360 ml IO from deep cool here not the highest TDP or the strongest pump but things are looking pretty stable temperatures aren't too high so I'm gonna go ahead and call this one here it's someone locking up yeah I'm gonna call this one a pass you I doubt any workload most people pursue anyway it would be anywhere near prime95 torture workload capacity so this is uh this is great this is great news so yeah still not locking up here 4.1 gigahertz 1.3 5 volts on a be 350 motherboard with a rise in 720 700 X you see package temps are getting pretty high still despite being at only one point three five volts 84 degrees C according to hardware monitor but the system is not locking up and that's that's really good news so if you have a be 350 board or maybe just want to buy a cheaper board and not want to go all out with the X 470 stuff then you can certainly do that as long as it comes with the most up-to-date bios supporting pinnacle ridge and it should be good to go so there you have it folks a few things you should take away from this video yes you can run Verizon plus on a p30 board I don't think that was news to anybody but what I was more or less concerned about was how stable things would be if I could reach the same overclock as I could on an X 470 Ford the answer to that at least for the CPU is no I had to drop the frequency by a hundred megahertz I probably could've dropped it by 50 and kind of incrementally bored my way to a certain threshold but I'm comfortable at 4.1 like it's only a 100 mega deviation from the high-end stuff right it's gonna cost maybe $100 more and on top of that we still comfortably hit our X and P timings here and frequency for our RAM at 3200 megahertz which is a huge improvement over the original rise and stuff on the be 350 platform now a downside to using B 350 of course this is not going to be the most stable motherboard out there in terms of power delivery so your viren's might get pretty hot on the cpu like this depending on what frequency you get it - although pinnacle ridge in terms of power draw is not too different from summit ridge and that's great news again though you're gonna lose a few other features when you resort to be 350 over X 370 or X or 70 now but this is good stuff right so you can find this motherboard link below along with a CPU and a few other B 50 Ford's that I've tested that I would recommend for this particular thing also remember to keep in mind that you can't just buy one of these motherboards from a site like Amazon or new egg without triple checking that the latest BIOS is on the board because unless you have a rise in one CPU of which to flash a BIOS and less using like a key flash software that doesn't require CPU you're gonna have just the board that won't work CP out of the box so just something else to keep in mind is another hurdle but again you know if you're upgrading or if you get the motherboard with the newest bios already installed then you're gonna be a-ok if you like this video we sure let me know guys want a thumbs up I appreciate it thumbs down for the obstacle subscribe button EB have any stay tuned for more content like this this is science studio thanks for learning with us
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