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The Radeon VII Launch was Weird...

2019-01-17
is anyone else confused with this launch let me get this straight we seen a be hyped for months leading up to CES not that we expected anything we launched at CES regarding that architecture but then all of a sudden we get Vega to SPC games and right so this is the second generation of AMD's Vega graphics architecture hence the v2 for Vega 2 though because it's the first seven enemy to gaming GPU it's also Radeon seven damn this AMD Radeon seven is just layers upon layers of clever but is the launch itself clever especially in light of conflicting reports that the cards will ship in limited production we'll try our best to break down the facts and claims made by many on the web and forecast the enthusiast graphics card market with AMD now hopefully in the picture privacy calm is the easy way to shop securely online by creating virtual debit cards tied securely to your bank account you can even download the browser extension and let it autofill card information with a single click get started for free and on a $5 credit by clicking the link below today so when you think of right on 7 the first thing you probably imagine is the 7 animated fat this is the work of TSMC and this is indeed the world's first 7 nanometre gaming GPU technically speaking but it isn't the world's first 7 nanometre GPU AMD m150 came before more server oriented and some phones like the iPhone 10s are already sporting 7 nanometer CPUs but they do the stuff in-house separate issue but remember a lot of what we hear in terms of lithography at this point is marketing hype 7 nanometers would have had a specific meaning say like in the early 2000s but today the length denotes more or less a generation rather than any physical aspect of the dye itself so just what is 7 nanometer Vega well AMD calls it Vega 2 still technically GC + 5 architecture just on a smaller denser scale slightly fewer chorus slightly higher clocks and double the memory bandwidth and capacity TDP is about on par with Vega 64 as well it's around 300 watts and that explains a dual a pin supplemental power connectors we expect this card to pull around its TDP figure from the wall at stock which I mean let's be honest that's less efficient in its current state than Pascal or touring offerings though not expect it to be a deal-breaker for most remembered Navi so we shouldn't be too surprised by these numbers this is again based on the exact same Vega architecture you can't also take all of AMD's in-house benchmarks by the way with a handful of salt just to get this out there seeing is the other numbers have been known to vastly miss the mark in terms of how accurate they've been anyone remember these B reacts figures so what rate on seven ultimately looks like is at least in my opinion are refreshed that's literally what we're looking at here folks all in all I'm expecting between maybe and twenty and thirty percent performance buff on average that's pretty good for a refresh but remember we have the fab to thank for that AMD was more forthcoming with performance metrics and NVIDIA this time around showing their card outperforming the RDX twenty eighty in a few choice games including battlefield five who is frostbite engine has old ties to AMD so no surprise there really I to be just as critical here as I was with Nvidia in this video that when Vidya gave us significantly less to work with so while I'm still skeptical of in-house numbers I should say extremely skeptical at least it's something by the way one of the biggest advantages of the new fab is space of course whereas Vegas 64 s package comprise nearly 500 square millimeters the new Vega die consumes just 331 square millimetres of space this makes room for an additional two HBM two stacks which is why we're able to fit 16 gigabytes in total here as for the rumors regarding limited supply AMD has swiftly intervened and stated on the record that demand from gamers will be met this would be a wonderful contrast to the original Vega launch I do say so myself AI bees are also expected to be included on launch day that's February 7 though I haven't confirmed this with any IAB yet so I'll let you know if we hear anything from them it all really just comes down to how heavy short-term demand is for these cards and at 699 bucks I honestly don't expect it to be anything crazy people waiting for this card specifically might buy into it now but my guess is that a lot of people are going to wait for na'vi because we expect na'vi will be more budget-conscious a majority of gamers are not spending money on graphics cards over about 300 bucks we see that in steam surveys a lot of people are actually using two three general graphics cards so I just don't see a lot of people going out and paying seven eight hundred bucks for these cards we rented they did for the RT X lineup so who knows speaking of which to the RT X 2080 which this card purported tres blows with is currently going for anywhere between seven and nine hundred USD in my opinion at that price point both cards are a bit expensive and without ray-tracing capabilities the r-tx 2088 700 bucks which gigabyte is currently selling one of their models for appears to be the better buy but we'll have to see how all this plays out when samples reach the media and independent benchmarks are published for now many of us are still waiting for Navi as I said and that's because we expected to replace the current lineup of Oryx graphics cards like the 575 eighty and 590 meaning they should be significantly cheaper than what we're seeing here from the raid on 7 we expect GDD our 6 will be used in place of HBM to reduce overhead we expect double the logic density of the RX 580 similar efficiency levels and up to 40% performance boost per family of course that's our hope but I do strongly believe we'll see something similar to the transition between Maxwell and Pascal with AMD this time around which would be phenomenal I still remember Pasco cards were epic at launch and I was I was so amped for those cards because in large part they were really affordable they were efficient and the performance improvements were staggering for the price so if AMD can pull off something similar we'll have an extremely large void filled with invidious 50 series cards still out of play and the 2060 out pricing its own predecessor by over a hundred bucks and look I expect AMD to be perfectly comfortable with with the budget gaming space we saw this with the RX 4 and 5 Series cards anywhere between 1 and $300 seems to be the sweet spot for a majority of gamers Vega 56 and 64 launches were obscure and disappointing initially and only recently have we been able to fully appreciate the competitiveness of such a platform but my guess is that Navi sticks with the affordable sweet spot and under cuts and videos push for premium products and ray-tracing capabilities that's not to say that na'vi will avoid ray-tracing altogether I just don't think they're gonna put as much of an emphasis on it as Nvidia has this year AMD's Lisa sue stated earlier last year that r8 Racing's relevance and the market is limited to its affordability and degree of adoption what that tells me is that AMD will likely hold off on implementing its own rate racing technology until it becomes more affordable and mainstream which from the looks of things won't be anytime soon like the X R and D LSS while they might look good in game are still widely in development likely thanks to ongoing performance optimizations DX our hitch graphics cards hard even our TX cards and until this and other characteristics of the technology are addressed I'd put money on AMD staying out of this game especially with respect to their lower tier cards which we think much of Navi will fall into so what do you think about rhytm 7 in the future of Navi let me know in the comments below I'm actually curious to see what you guys have to say about this I'm you know I'm gonna be critical either way look AMD doesn't pay me anything Nvidia doesn't pay me anything I just call it like I see it I think in videos launch was significantly more shady that straight up I still think that's the case I do think though that AMD is trying to fill a void rather quickly and that's why they're taking their m1 50s and kind of rebranding them and targeting them toward gamers and maybe they're having issues selling those cards in the server space because well AI space any of that stuff any commercial-grade venture just because our TX cards are doing so well in that market right when you have dedicated arty tensor AI cores there they're going to do their job very well because that's what they're there for but the m150 doesn't really have that technology on board yet and maybe that's one of the reasons why they're kind of just pushing supply into the gaming space we'll see but I'm still a bit confused and I think until navi rolls out we roll we just won't really know the full picture so yeah kind of off the cuff there that's my closing argument what do you guys think thumbs up thumbs down you know what to do click that red subscribe button and I'll catch you in the next video this is sorry in studio thanks for chatting with us
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