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what all can you do with 12 course I mean sure it'll ensure that every game that you play has a sufficient number of threads to work with I mean 24 threads that's a ton but even the 3700 ex checks those boxes with 8 cores and 16 threads and a considerably lower price tag more on that in this video right here but the 3900 X is special because it's technically the world's first 12 core consumer grade CPU and it's priced rather competitively in my opinion at $4.99 it packs 70 megabytes of combined l2 and l3 cache max boost frequency of 4.6 gigahertz which comes in handy for some more gaming benchmarks especially and a reasonable 105 watt TDP so how does the stack up against intel's comparably priced in 9900 K and should you consider if you're looking for crisp audio in a comfortable set of cans from a reputable company checkout Sennheiser's HD 58 x jubilee headset from drop thanks to new 150 ohm drivers you can enjoy clean audio from virtually any source including your smartphone with extended bass and a defined upper mid-range you'll also welcome the julies incredible dynamic range meaning you can crank these babies up for undistorted uninterrupted unconditionally clean sound have I sold you yet you can find the HD 58 x jubilee from drop that's formally mass drop linked below now so briefly run through our testbench again we've got two gigabyte X 570 or master which handles the 12 core giant with ease I didn't note this in our last review but we were running and are running currently for these tests the f5 see a BIOS revision because BIOS is tend to affect results just slightly you'll see stock and manual overclock runs here and depending on the title you'll find the 3900 X does sufficiently well at stock where precision boost and exif r2 are allowed to tailor individual core frequencies to better suit workloads the same 16 gig could've tried NZ ddr4 was used with XMP enabled the graphics card used throughout was an asus strix 2080 our boot drivers of course their MP 600 compatible of pci hn4 and our library was stored on a 2 terabyte TT blue hard drive in front all these parts linked down below the 3900 X is an absolute slayer in Cinebench r20 which utilizes each thread to render parts of an image CPS with more threads are allowed to render smaller parts of the image simultaneously which means CPS with more cores typically do better in this test Geekbench 4 reveals a similar story our single core scores are still a bit shy of the 9900 KS but another thing you're likely to notice here is how the stock run of the r9 chip is outperforming the overclocked run this is something we intermittently saw in our 3700 X review as well long story short these then two chips aren't excellent overclockers a lot of this has to do with how aggressive precision boost is by default and while 12 cores sounds lovely on paper in practice many programs still benefit from the occasional single or dual core boost in frequency we discussed more of that in this video right here I'm pointing to the same videos I did last time I'm just emphasizing it because if you haven't seen these yet it explains why you're seeing what you're so with that said the next few productivity benchmarks you'll see will be depicted at stock that not get 100k sure could still benefit from a small boost in overall frequency with a manual overclock and so what I did instead was enable MCE and it was disabled again for our gaming benchmarks so all that's because we showed overclocked and stock runs in the gaming benchmark so I'll let you know when we make that switch back blender was our next test and here the 3900 X dominated the ring in the BMW render which is a lot like cinnamon in the way behaves more cores and a solid frequency push AMD's r9 shift to render times of only 168 seconds of there abouts compared to our 9900 K at 220 seconds almost 1 minute slower the 3700 X mind you is not far behind that next up this content creation I could have used DaVinci Resolve or Sony Vegas for these tests but a popular platform I've used for years is Adobe Premiere Pro I know how these chips behave typically with the software suite so I know what to expect and it's easy to explain it isn't the most reliable in terms of stability we're talking about the software itself but it's functions are powerful and that's why I use it what you're looking at here are a render times for the same a 5-minute 4k video clip using the YouTube before K 40 mega 40 megabits scuse me per second preset now at first glance you might think something's wrong 999 hundred K results in fact I noticed a few reviewers showing the 1900 K behind the 3900 X in similar premiere tests however in my case I was sure to enable Hardware encoding which requires the install and activation of Intel u HD graphics there are typically drivers involved along with a bios toggle so it's a multi-step process that said it works wonders here and I'm getting less than a minute for minute render time per minute of footage on my timeline with the 1900 K and this is something comparable AMD chips simply cannot take part in for that reason and that reason alone I haven't switched to arisin or Zen 2 for my personal editing rig but will still find plenty of use for a 12 core around the office and to be completely honest said they're gonna hundred X and even the 3700 X aren't terrible in this test so if you--if you wanted to go with this for kind of an awesome all-arounder at a better price in my opinion then this would totally make sense so you could do it a lot alive with 12-course the same general rules apply for the next test warp stabiliser is a built-in video effect that it attempts to basically smooth out rough and bouncy footage and here the core I nine and ninety-nine hundred K comes out on top after six hundred frames but the 3900 X comes awfully close I should note that the IGP isn't being used as heavily during this task here during warp stabilizing it's used a lot heavy it's used to a greater extent I should say in the render scenario so that is why the 99 rotate doesn't have as much of a lead as it did in the prior test I should also note that without the IGP the core I nine would lose handily but I'm not gonna get the Intel chip especially given the fact that I used this hardware acceleration on a near-daily basis I just feel like that would be unfair for the blue team if these had I GPS I'd be using them too I will say however that other editing Suites like DaVinci Resolve a generally favored higher core pounce in general in which case I would expect the 3900 X to render and warp faster so it all really depends on the programs of which you take advantage that's no surprise really speaking of advantage streaming is likely to be a popular use case for the CPU and really any of these CPUs on this chart the 3900 X to my surprise didn't improve much in the way of streamer side fps but no drop frames were observed for any of these tests on the viewer side which is good this was with the x264 encoder by the way I don't typically use in bank with you know gaming streaming it just doesn't make sense to me I would rather use x264 especially about a higher core count CPU so in short your outcomes will largely depend on the games you play GTA v doesn't tend to saturate 16 threads so additional headroom can be levy to by the encoder and virtually no expensive framerate well ok there there's like around a 10 percent dip overall when compared to our raw GTA 5 benchmarks but it isn't something you're likely to complain about when your viewers are seeing a buttery smooth 60fps stream my recommendation if you're gonna be just streaming and gaming and you want to buy a new CPU that 3700 X is the best value of the law in 3dmark times by the 3900 X is 12 cores comes in handily actually edging out a victory over all thanks to a crispy CPU score pushing overall score as well in excess of 11,000 points the 9900 K + 30 our necks are neck and neck and the 2700 X suffers to an extent on account of IPC and boost clocks by the way the 3,700 X 9900 K and 27 X results that you see from here on out will be with the stock run so no MCE enabled as well as the overclocked 5 gigahertz 4.3 and 4.2 respectively and these are the exact same results you saw in our 3700 X review your Eastside GTA 5 in this video but imma show it again along with a side-by-side comparison of a game play between the 3700 X 3900 X and a 9900 K I'm getting so tired of saying these names by the way you're only gonna see the first 16 threads because showing 24 in the case of the 3900 X required me to shrink this font down to a point where it have been pretty difficult to you on certain devices needless to say you can see that several threads that you can see bounce in and out of existence so having twenty four threads instead of you know 16 isn't really going to change much in the way of performance for this game this trend continues by the way to other games as well we saw a small improvement in fortnight but nothing worth freaking out about our 9900 K retain the lead among averages and the lowest 1% of frames and the 3900 X offered only a small improvement over its 8-core counterpart Resident Evil was a similar story in fact for some reason our 3900 X performed worse overall even after three averaged runs which all of these are by the way we averaged three different frame times across the entire frame spectrum so some of these benchmarks and choreo recorded like thousands of frames we averaged all those frame times and they come up with a standardized average that you're seeing here in these graphs but if we have outliers like an occasional it'll be like a random spike out of nowhere and it only shows up in one test and no other CPUs exhibit this then we get rid of that we throw that out we consider it an outlier and so that's the whole thing if it's repeatable if you can see it multiple times in your experimenting then that is something to take into consideration if it's not repeatable if it just shows up one time you consider an outlier there are several variables that could have been at play that we can't control and that's why they won't be included in our data shadow the Tomb Raider however is an exception check out thread utilization in the scene I do expect a few newer Triple A titles will follow suit in the coming months and years but again this isn't the norm and you shouldn't expect it to be for several years despite whatever consoles are doing I've heard a few people say well consoles are standardized because the PC industry is totally different right consoles are standardized everyone has the same unit they're all the same Xbox they're all the same ps5 whatever right we're talking about specific generations here but on PC it's a different ballgame right everyone has a different system for the most part it's a you know someone could have a Pentium another person could have a core i7 someone else could have a core I know and someone else could have a thread Ripper how do you account for all of that most systems running with half as many cores as what comes in this will fare just as well in most titles and that's what devs want they don't want to leave a bulk of their audience the fact that the vast majority of their audience behind because the fact is most people are using lower core count chips still and if you optimize for higher core counts and you're going to penalize those who have lower core count chips that's one viewpoint that I want you to consider going forward because you shouldn't be surprised at the 1,300 X isn't that much better than the 3700 made let's be real who games exclusively with a 12-course see huge doesn't make sense but ok enough rambling sieving ahead a bit we have Witcher 3 performance between the 3900 X and at 9900 K is nearly identical here this is actually good news it was in the small gap the 3700 X left behind but I again wouldn't advise spending a little under 200 bucks more for a few extra frames f1 20-17 behaved in a similar fashion at the 3900 x2 closes the gap but the price isn't justified for a pure gaming scenario it's the same for pub G and universe and box 2 more chorus sounds great on paper but the actual practicality of them for gaming is just not there for me like don't get me wrong and there are 900 acts is an incredible CPU at this price but for nearly $200 less you could cop a 3700 X and enjoy 95% of the frame rates and I have a feeling Oh same thing about the 3600 so stay tuned for that review when we get our hands on a sample that's honestly what this comes down to right most games don't care whether you have 6 or 12 cores so it depends on your use case really if you're streaming quite a bit along with intensive gaming that I'd say the 8 core is the sweet spot to be completely honest with you sure the 6 core could handle it as well but I like having a bit of breathing room for the future I mean future proofing is it overuse term but to be completely honest if games are already saturating to at least a decent extent six cores and twelve threads I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years eight cores becomes the new six core that's for the 12 core though it's just it's a totally different story I mean you're paying a lot more right serious content creators can consider this it's an option but again it's going to depend on the program in my case the 3700 X would be a significantly better buy save the extra money throw it into a better graphics card maybe and you'll be happier I honestly believe this I think you'll benefit from a much beefier graphics card at this point anything at 8 cores or above right so my recommendation is for the 3700 ax at this point a vast majority of you could benefit from a better graphics card past eight cores again if you're compiling or running VMs and consider the 12 core instead it should be that simple but I still have a feeling a few of you are gonna buy the 12 core just say that you have a 12 core because you think it's future proof for because it sounds cool and look I've got news for you the 8 core is already future proof but anyway with that I'll leave you to decide what's best for your money for your wallet and yeah based on what you've seen in this video and others I'm sure you'll make at least a somewhat informed decision do not buy a 12 core just to say you have won thanks for watching subscribe click on the bell become a member stay tuned for more you guys know it the drill this is science studio thanks for watching again and thanks for you