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yep well we did it I made it my mission to build a computer using all used components and that's exactly what you're looking at here so we've got a used CPU used RAM used motherboard B stock power supply and a used SSD not to be more specific these are all eBay parts with the exception of the case and to be honest it's extremely difficult to find used PC cases in my area so searching Craigslist couldn't really find anything suitable for this build and eBay prices are a bit ridiculous when you take into account shipping because cases are very large so you're often paying more than you would for just buying the case outright new so I recycled an old case I had other plans for I think it's a bit hideous if I'm being honest but it's cheap and build friendly so we'll use it here and yeah you could say I cheated in the case of power supply bit but what I'm really after in this video is stability obviously if the parts work we aren't gonna have any problem playing games but how about temperatures versus I don't know a new version of this build how's the dust buildup and especially the graphics card how stable is a V stock power supply well discuss all of that and more in this video promising calm is today's video sponsor and right now they're giving out $5 credit to new accounts and sign up via the link below so when a nutshell privacy allows you to purchase things online using virtual debit cards instead of a real ones provides a necessary layer of security that keeps your real card and bank information hidden from the transaction using the same security standards as your bank you can even download the browser extension and let it autofill the information for any of your cards on sites like Amazon it's easy to use more importantly secure and 100% free thanks to the fact that they make money on the merchant side the same way credit agencies do in case you were wondering how all that works click the link below and get started today now how about a slow-mo build log so this build actually has quite a bit going forward and the first thing that probably stood out to you was the fact that this is as oh tech amp extreme 980ti and a five hundred and twenty eight dollar bill believe it or not this card was purchased on eBay for a little over 200 bucks that's why this total build price is so cheap I discussed that card by the way in this video right here packs the punch similar to a gtx 1070 well consuming just a bit more power hence why we went with a 600 watt power supply instead of a 500 watt unit and in all fairness 500 watts still would have been fine but under an intense gaming workload from pulling almost 300 watts from the wall so are our 514 hundreds actually keeping total consumption on the low side even with an overclock to 4 gigahertz we're currently running all in all though I think is 600 watt power supply is a better bet it's the recommended unit recommended wattage and that's the only one with now I decided to turn the graphics card vertical in an effort to minimize card sag this model 92 ci sags a heck of a lot thanks to its lack of cooler reinforcements toward the rear i/o plate and at this kit from Coolermaster solves the problem I would have used the cable market instead actually prefer that one more but I was a bit worried about clearance upfront if we decided to throw fans near the front of the case as well only one fan is included with this case and it's at the rear as an exhaust so far temps look ok the system runs very quiet even when gaming I came for like 3 hours in GTA 5 and it was doing just fine didn't get very loud at all in temps for under 70 C for the graphics card I didn't manually overclock anything on the graphics card side not that we really need to and of course the CPU running 4 gigahertz is pretty sweet considering we using the stock cooler in an effort to minimize cost by the way if you must know this is the thermal take versa in 24 iMessage thermal take just because I wanted something that was super cheap and frankly ugly we're gonna do kind of a spoof video and I still have plans to do that with my good friend Brian over at bps customs so stay tuned for that but this was one of the only cases I still had in the garage they hadn't built in yet and I think it fit the bill I mean it's not a terrible looking case but it's definitely not pretty and that's one of the reasons why I wasn't I figured we'd have fun with it and again on top of that buying a use case on a site like eBay is not recommended because you're gonna probably end up paying as much to get the case shipped to you as you would just buying a new case from Amazon or new like they have warehouse is dedicated to you know housing big products and they have contracts with UPS and FedEx and USPS and how they're able to send this stuff on the cheap not compared to just your average consumer who has to pay 30 40 50 bucks to ship just just the case and nothing else in it just the case within the continental US so yeah if you want to send it out of the state forget it hundreds of dollars but anyway case in point the case is entirely subjective as long as it fits the components you have on hand and has decent air flow properties in my opinion it doesn't really matter it's all preferential and so we had a bit of fun with this one next up is our used motherboard this is the MSI be 350 PC mate for some reason the previous owner had its bar code removed but other than that this thing was actually pretty great shape it almost looked brand new AMD be series chipsets don't really have the best power management setups and this one's really no exception but the autumn temps they didn't check and I think that's thanks in large part to the fact that we run a 1,400 here not something like a 1700 or an 1,800 X or a 2700 those chips would consume significantly more power tax was VRMs MOSFETs considerably more and that would result in much higher temperatures overall especially on board but here things are very much in check and I was actually pleasantly surprised by how cool the CPU ran even with a 4 gigahertz all core overclock speaking of the CPU I really tried my best to find a great deal in Rison 5 1600 I wanted a 6 core variant that seems to be where games pretty much taper off respect to how many cores physical cores they'll utilize but I really couldn't find them for anywhere less than about 20 bucks below retail and I didn't feel it was right risking you know I see if you like that for a $20 discount so instead I went with a rise in 514 hundred and I purchased it on eBay for about 80 bucks not a stellar deal by any means but I wanted a modern platform and this was the price I paid I'm sure you could probably do better if you're willing to hop back a few generations I'm not trying to compete with you there everyone would probably build a used PC different if they had the money and the time to do so but I wanted something that was relatively modern again I just wanted rise in frankly I think rise is a great value proposition especially used can still game like a boss and at the same time we have a few more cores a few more threads at our disposal for things like content creation you know you can video edit with this thing you could even stream with it if you wanted it's not something you can do with more of the know 3 or 4 generation back Intel CPUs if you want to go like Sandy Bridge Ivy Bridge you'd have to go with an i7 if you really want it to be comfortable video editing on a CPU like that but here we get the same or similar package and horizon 5 CPU 480 bucks I think that's a that's a pretty good deal now on to the disappointment of this build that's the ddr4 look I tried very hard to find a kit that ran it around 3 gigahertz but people were asking unrealistic prices for them that and ddr4 in general still very expensive in most places sooo I settled for a 16 gig kit of micron modules with the absolute ugliest aesthetic you can possibly buy into no heatsinks at all this is bare green PCB here they aren't even that fast 226 66 megahertz meaning our risin 5 1400 will struggle a bit but I mean hey it can be picked up for as little as seventy bucks for 16 gigs that's not bad at all so if you're willing to bid on a few listing you could get lucky and a lot of these bare-bones kits by the way ripped out of like old dell optiplex and gaming desktops so I wouldn't say they're unreliable microphones a reliable brand when it comes to memory modules so no I wouldn't freak out here buying used memory although if you do buy a kit and it doesn't work out of the box you can almost always count on the eBay buyer protection guarantee to allow you to get your money back you can just tell the seller doesn't work as advertised and that you want your money back now the last two components of this build I strongly recommend buying new and we'll discuss why shortly first off the SSD I didn't want a hard drive for a few reasons but the biggest and probably most obvious was the fact that boot times are significantly slower on comparable hard drives ask anyone he went from an OS on a hard drive to an OS on an SSD the difference is night and day so I hunted eBay for anything in the 500 gig range that was fairly priced I searched for old 840 Evo's a data Toshiba drives OC Z's and actually ended up settling on believe it or not an 860 Evo 500s SD which is the newest SKU in the Evo series but here are the three reasons why I would advise purchasing a new drive versus a used one and firstly the drives are selling for almost the same as new ones so like my winning bid was only 10 bucks under a brand new unit now it's pretty stubborn I just wanted to just buy something and get it over with I was taking forever to find a drive so like some of these SSD kits are actually selling cheaper then I ended up paying for my used one I think that's a little ridiculous it really depends on where you look but for the sake of this video I had to buy something used so I went with this one the second reason why you want to avoid buying and use drive is that you have absolutely no idea how many times the drives were erased prior to reselling so these SSDs have rewrite limits just like any other Drive and the more you erase and replace data the more worn they become this applies especially to a holder drys it's not a super common thing for an SSD to fail randomly but it's definitely more prevalent in older previously used units and if those reasons don't end up persuading you enough the third reason is that you have absolutely no idea what was previously all noise drives in fact data could still be on them when you receive them some people don't even know how to wipe a drive so you know it's kind of luck of the draw their minds seem to be cleared up when I installed Windows there was there were no partitions it was just one big empty volume but there's really no telling until you open up delete partitions and start checking things out again it's kind of a risky thing to to do you don't know what's on the drive could be something very malicious could be something illegal so it's just luck of the draw that's probably me with a tinfoil hat but it's possible it's possible now onto the power supply this was actually a beef stock EVGA unit that's why it's not technically used but it can't be listed as new either for a few reasons so they may have been previously purchased and open therefore they're not new or they could have manufacturer defects that required immediate attention they could have been demo units used for in-house testing etc so there's really no guarantee that they weren't used and that's why they're often just slapped with of the stock sticker and discounted pretty substantially in the case of this power supply here I paid about 15 bucks for it shipped and that's not bad at all for a 600 watt unit from EVGA I've used this exact unit before not the exact you made I should say I'm used to the attacked model before and it runs very quiet it's a very reliable cheap power supply and it's actually I think 80 plus efficient so it's not like you know some knockoff brand I mean it comes from EVGA and it comes with a decent warranty so I would be perfectly comfortable buying this and putting it into it seven eight hundred dollar build so the viability of B stock units in my opinion really comes the credibility of the seller this was shipped from EVGA direct via eBay listing so I knew that if the unit didn't work I could just email EVGA a customer support and fairly quick and have it resolved now but in this case I was willing to to risk that right in order to seize a great deal mom-and-pop shops though may not hold themselves to the same standard so you'll want to be careful when buying other things with this label attached in a nutshell however buying used power supplies is well it's pretty risky huh but and that's I don't know yeah this is one of those touchy subjects people tend to think differently about this but I use power supply is used right how long was a run for was it run outside of its efficiency zone was it running extremely hot and how was air flow restricted remember the power supply has the capacity to take out your entire system and rarely happens but it still does so when you choose to buy used you effectively bump your odds a bit since the lifespan of that unit is now shorter like mine buying used in general is kind of a gamble but I put this entire system together in this fashion to prove a few points firstly it can be done and for a lot cheaper than you think but the two exceptions power supplies and SSDs are the two things that I would just be I wouldn't be willing to risk the integrity and stability of my system on those two because for one you could get most of them almost for the same price brand-new and typically you have that the new warranty to go with it and for two you can't really trust what people will prior to you we're doing with those units so yeah how risky do you want to play it by the way put this entire system together for probably a lot cheaper than you think about 500 USD just a little over that thing shipped it was about five twenty or five thirty that's not bad at all for a system with a ninety atti in it and I'm pushing excellent frame rates and pretty much all the games that I tested here in 1440p which is something many systems in this price range can not say about themselves the build runs quiet it runs much cooler than I thought it would everything appears to be to be stable at the moment I'll let you know if any of that changes in the future but with respect to the 92 TI let's say I didn't have any issue with dust right when I first got the card I opened up inspected it really no dust at all I'm kind of surprised I think the previous owner cleaned it before he boxed it up for me and then the temperatures in the car are actually fairly low as well despite this being a beefy 980 TI it still gets pretty hot it's got a decent manual overclock applied to it and it didn't reach 70 degrees Celsius so that tells me that either this card was not used for mining which is probable or that he replaced a thermal compound before he sent it to me maybe even both I don't know I don't know if he would have gone through that much trouble but I'm comfortable where'd I put it this way it wasn't dusty enough to where I felt like I had to take the whole thing apart and clean it and the temperatures Warren Hine up where I felt like I had to take it apart and reapply thermal compound so that's pretty good for especially an older card like this to not have to really worry about much of that at all although I'm sure in the very near future I'll take it all apart anyway just for peace of mind sake reapply the thermal compound and enjoy even lower temperatures so to close I'd like to first say that you could do this a number of ways okay I really don't care how you would have done this I know people were coming I could build the same system but it'd be you know much cheaper here or I could build this system and if you outperform your system for the same price that's not the point I'm not trying to say this is the best $538 build out there I just wanted to buy a fully used system I wanted all the components to be used on purpose just to experiment I mean just to see I mean like okay if I throw this money out there what are the odds that I get something that doesn't work and I would have documented that but I didn't all the stuff worked the the sellers for the most part were reputable I thought that they were reputable enough to be purchased from and yeah I have a system that works and I only paid out of pocket a little over 500 bucks for it I really do you think it's okay to take some risks here and there with respect to PC components I mean it's your money spent how you want but that's how I see I see more value in the use market I really do the two things I wouldn't risk used or the power supply in the storage drive again everything else in my book is fair game and the use market is pretty lit right now don't be afraid to bid here in their worst case you come home with nothing but best case you come on something that's cheaper than it was new and if push comes to shove you've got the eBay buyer protection guarantee it's safer in that sense than Craigslist and provides the degree of peace of mind when shopping for used components online what do you thing about my builder you think about the video let me know if I give this one a thumbs up I appreciate it or a thumbs down if you hate everything about life or if you feel the complete opposite about content and saw let you know in the comment section how you feel and click that red subscribe button if you're feeling this is science studio thanks for building