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what's going on everyone a valid question can you pair an i-5 8400 with the 10 atti and obviously the answer is yes you could if you wanted but the real question is should you because 95 80 400 seeing that it only has 6 cores and right no hyper threading and it's a locked processor because Intel is Intel is that still a good combo for an overkill like quote-unquote overkill graphics card like a gtx 980ti especially for a higher end you know higher resolution gaming like 1440p and even 4k I have strong hopes for this build I think it will do really well and it is a case yes for the i5 8400 so if all you want to do is game then you might want to copy this build we're gonna throw benchmarks in at the end of this video so stay tuned for that but for now I'm gonna have my wife Lisa build this one because it's been a while since she's got her hands on some hardware you guys know what I'm talking about right so quick rundown of the parts Before we jump into this and you guys know you can find all the stuff link below usually tied to our Amazon and Newegg affiliate account so we do get a small kickback if you decide to buy something through the links we appreciate that if you want to kind of pick and choose and build your own based off of what we're throwing out here that's perfectly fine you don't have to abide by this set of products by any means and we're actually not even being paid to use any of these parts this is just something that I've wanted to put together for a long time because I like a white color scheme I like these components these are components I would choose if I was building my own eye 5 based rig purely for gaming so starting first obviously we have the i5 8400 it is a 6 core 6 thread processor from Intel running around 200 USD it's not too bad because it does have that 2 core bump right from the previous i5 generation and even though it's not overclockable it's still a great gaming processor will show that here shortly we have a B 360 gaming Arctic motherboard from MSI this is a pretty beast motherboard because well not only does it cost considerably less than what we've been used to seeing right in the coffee like space Z 370 so this is a cheap motherboard and does have a white PCB so it should look pretty sweet and our fantex 350 X we'll get to that soon as well we have a castle 240 RGB cooler from deep cool that we saw at Computex I want to just kind of use it to see what it looks like in the real world we saw it on display at plenty at the deep cool buthe we have a coolermaster a vertical graphics paramount just because I'm more or less worried about aesthetics in this build again White's gonna look pretty cool in here we have some custom sleeve cables here these are from Tony over ability PC customs his channels link down below check his channel for sure there's a lot of enthusiasts build and talks about a lot of his first-hand accounts and experience in building custom PC so again give him a shout-out for short Tony's a good friend of mine we have a 2 terabyte hard drive good for again this is a gaming PC plenty of games in our Steam library we have a 500 gig I believe Samsung Evo Drive this is good for your beer boot OS and anything that you want to be very snappy write program wise in your operating system we have a gigabyte GTX 10 atti gaming this is a white shroud model it does not have a backplate not worried about it though because again we're turning the graphics card vertically so that that shroud can look great from the front we have 16 gigs of team grouped e-force Nighthawk RGB modules these are the white shroud DRAM modules and I believe they are clocked to 3000 megahertz 16 gigs should be plenty for a gaming system and then further to our right here we have a straight power 11 be quiet 750 watt power supply it's fully modular so that's really awesome even though we have extensions we should have plenty of room in the fan Tech's 350 X we have a lot of other stuff in fan text too that they just want the throw and see if we wanted to use and we are definitely going to out of RGB components we have digital RGB x' up top and then we have four they're kind of like RGB frames if you will and they'll turn non RGB fans into RGB fans you guys will see that you know when we actually build the thing so stay tuned for that looks really good and we have an RGB controller on top of those four kits so we are ready to build I'm gonna give you guys some insights into the building experience of the 350 X soon as well this isn't a new case by any means and it's relatively new but reviews have already hit YouTube so we're just gonna building it and tell you our experience as we go along so with that she's gonna build she didn't expect me to do that now it's awkward it's not awkward there you go that's the toughest part it's toughest part of building PZ it is did you just build a fancy new system like we did right here your next step would be to install an operating system we have Windows 10 Pro running on this machine we activated it using s CD key at a CD key calm you can often find discounted keys and other codes for games and the like so you find a game via Steam for 40 or 50 bucks be sure to check a CD key first because they might have a for a cheaper these are just codes that you enter in Steam you can buy from s CD key and you'll be able to download the game directly through Steam so you're just getting the codes from s CD key and these will often allow you to activate or download games you would otherwise have to purchase in the app itself in our case we bought a Windows 10 Pro key for $14 and that was a clean digital license activation with Windows 10 Pro so you won't have any watermark on your desktop anymore you can set your own background Sun into your own Microsoft account and transfer all of your data accordingly you can find codes for other software on the side as well including those for Microsoft Office so access to Microsoft Word Excel PowerPoint you guys get the gist of it you can find links to all this stuff down below the video description by the way along with 10% off codes for your next s CD key purchase big thanks to them for sponsoring this video well everyone I hope you enjoyed it the build log different perspective usually I'm mounting the camera to a tripod and calling it a day but this one was more POV and Lisa enjoyed building it she did like 95% of this I handled some of the cable management that was about it but I'm really pleased with how this turned out I think it turned out better than I thought it would this is the 350 X from fan text the case is beautiful it comes in and I think around 69 bucks or so and let me tell you the heck of a bargain I used to promote the P 300 as a super you know bargain case that didn't make too many compromises on the aesthetic so you get tempered glass and integrated RGB capabilities and whatnot but let me tell you the 350 X takes it to another level for another 10 bucks or so this case looks really good and you can get it with this white interior which would look great if you have something like a white motherboard we went with the MSI B 360 Arctic and it is just it's beautiful it's one of the best looking B 360 boards out there MSI always kills it with their tongue off Arctic series boards and this one is no exception now essentially everything this built is already be capable and I've purposely left everything like rainbow puke colors because I just want to show you the dynamic looking effects of all of these components so first off the deep cool castle 2 40 here this is a AIO that we found to be pretty cool looking very unique at Computex in taiwan for 2018 and the equal sent us one almost immediately after we got back so I figured I'd throw in this build here it's perfect application might be a bit overkill for a locked until I 580 400 but it's gonna keep things nice and quiet temperatures are just beautiful even under full load and that's due in part to the Lotte teepee of the CEP also because you can't overclock it and and the good thing is because we're able to pair this cpu with a lock skew chipset the B 360 chipset we didn't have to spend more money than we needed to get additional Zi 370 features we wouldn't otherwise need so the beater 60 board is great this one again it looks awesome in this case and I think everything else just kind of blended together very well we have team group T force Nighthawk or white modules in there 16 gigs in total we could have gone for 8 that might have been a little under kill 8 gigs is gonna be pushing it definitely in some newer triple-a titles 16 is still the sweet spot any more than that and it's just overkill so I only put 2 modules in here and it still looks great the way it is another two important features of this puzzle were the gigabyte GTX 10 D the TI gaming card this one has a white shroud with the orange accents it matches our team group modules perfectly so I think this is a good combination of sorts if you want to go for a cup white and orange little count it creamsicle look I see you have you pointed that out the last time we combined these two components so we use a cooler master kit to turn the card vertically under run some tests to see if we're seeing any major performance degradation using that riser cable which sometimes riser cables can really chop into your FPS mission because the connections are not perfect so I'll be running some tests with them without the riser cable and just trying to see you know if we're compromising anything in that sense and also from an airflow perspective the cooler master bracket juxtaposes the card far enough from the left side panel to allow decent airflow to be pulled into the case the problem is though because we had to front mount our a i/o that temperature of the air entering the case it's gonna be a little warmer than ambient so the card will be pulling in some slightly warmer air than it should but I don't think in the long run this is gonna affect you know much of anything the car might run slightly louder but you shouldn't see any performance degradation in the long run with this configuration here now the unsung hero of this build is the MP quiet straight power 11 it's a fully modular power supply this time around and it's an excellent quiet under-the-radar power supply that's exactly how you want a power supply to be you don't want to hear it under load this is 750 watt units kind of overkill for the system but nonetheless it's it's in an affordable price point I think for what you're getting peace of mind the PCB has literally everything built into it so there aren't cables you know stretching from one part of the PCB to the other because it's so beautifully engineered so air flow isn't inhibited a single bit and it's gonna sound extremely quiet as you might have guessed now I've got a couple games downloading in the background this is a full-on new system so I completely wiped the OS off the old drive and reinstalled Windows 10 I've got a hard drive in there you guys saw the Toshiba 2 terabyte drives actually pretty quiet I've always gone with WD but this was a Toshiba Drive that I rip from an old system and it's staying very quite actually quieter than WD blues that I'm used to using so 2 terabytes is plenty for you know a typical steam game library maybe not for some of you out there but if you're just a modest game or someone who even games daily but doesn't have a huge library 2 terabytes there's plenty for that you can always upgrade later there are two drives in the 350 X and fantex so upgrades are gonna be pretty simple in that respect but I've got a couple games downloading now I'm gonna check on them and we're gonna show you some benchmarks see just how well an i-5 8400 paired with a gtx 980ti performs now the first thing I wanted to test here was a grand the thought of 5 as always and what I'm looking for particularly are very high usages of either the CP or the GPU you can see in most scenarios the graphics card that's right a the overkill 1080 TI in this rig is actually more or less a limiting factor here and we do have quite a bit of the in game settings maxed out although we are not enabled anti-aliasing under any circumstance so it could be much worse for the graphics card than it is currently and this tells me that the i5 8400 is plenty for a game like this also the frame rate is pretty high all of these games by the way the OC tested in this video have been benchmarked in the 1440p resolution which is a fair middle ground between maxing out GP utilization and 4k and leveraging the CPU more in 1080p the next game I tested was pub G and this one had me a little concerned at first because this game been known to not utilize resources in the most efficient ways I was pleasantly surprised though to find that the eye-fi was actually enough for the system at least given the current optimization standards we were reaching anywhere between 50 and 70 percent utilization across individual threads there are six of them keep in mind for this CPU and the graphics card was also being utilized around 70 to 80 percent during this run and I would say that this is acceptable it's not the best we'd like to see in a well optimised game you'd expect these to be both concurrently around 80 to 90 percent utilization but this is okay given the circumstances the current state of pubsey it receives updates every week it seems like servers are always down for maintenance so I expect this game will continue improve over time but for now the i5 8400 appeared with a gtx 980ti is a viable option for a game like this rise of the Tomb Raider was an interesting one because we benchmarked it in DirectX 12 and I was curious to see how CPU usage was going to vary running in this API versus the x11 and I was a bit concerned at first because at the begin of each of these benchmark runs there are three of them in this built-in benchmark CPU utilization across all six threads maxed out to a hundred percent and that's that's not good you don't want to see anywhere near 100% utilization for CPU workloads in games that just tells you that your CPU is the massive bottleneck in that scenario you can see though our CPU is running very cool around 44 or 45 degrees Celsius our 240 mill a IO from deep pool is just severe overkill here the system remained extremely quiet apart from the coil one of our 1080 GI which was again being maxed out anywhere between 90 and hundred percent utilization in this game so I would say that both Europe being utilized heavily although this is an Nvidia optimized title I would say that the graphics card is still being utilized more in the long run universe and MUX 2 is always an interesting one to benchmark this is the earth and sphere of moon simulation when we always run and in the 1440p resolution with high presets we are noticing that the CPU does cripple the system under just very specific workloads like when the moons all collide this requires many calculations of the CPU has to handle and it does choke a couple of threads though the entire CPU utilization isn't maxed out anywhere near hundred percent during that specific scenario so the CP is gonna be a limiting factor here obviously the GPUs like being used maybe 30% max so this one's gonna be definitely held back by the i-5 but I should note that the the reality of this doesn't really change if you jump up to an i7 8700 K this more or less comes down to an optimization issue and the last game we tested was f1 2017 I love this game because it's just like GTA 5 in the sense that both CPU and GPU horsepower for the most part gonna be utilized very heavily you can see under certain circumstances our CPU is approaching 100% utilization though this is not you know a lasting thing it's very temporary and we don't notice any frame dips when this occurs so I would say this is probably the most comfortable I would be with CPU being maxed out under again very rare circumstances the GPU is hovering between ninety and a hundred percent almost all the time and I would prefer this even with a 1080i we're pretty much maxed out in settings here although we aren't running any anti-aliasing onboard this is one of those situations in which I would say we're hitting the upper limit of what I'd be comfortable with CPU and GPU utilization wise and the frame rate is kind of responding to that too right so we're about 120 to 130 fps this is great again in 1440p with just a $200 CPU so in a nutshell I've got to say I'm I'm not disappointed with the i5 I just know in the back of my hand that there are a rise in five CPS out there that are comparably priced that do come with multi-threading support and you can actually overclock the CPU as well so with all that take into account it's it's difficult for me still to recommend an i-5 unless you're just purely gaming we can do a little bit of multitasking i'm just running nvidia shadowplay while recording we had a rebus statistics tuner open to monitor system usages and that's not you know lightweight by any means but it's not like streaming it's not like rendering in the background while you're playing a video game or I don't know watching a 4k movie on Netflix you guys know I'm saying so doing multiple things that are pretty intensive at the same time will be difficult even for a six-course EP like this because one it's not overclockable and - it has no hyper threading so the i-5 in my eyes is a strictly gaming CPU and I've said that for a long time but now that I've gotten a tested first hand with an overkill graphics card like the 1080 Ti I see now why it still exists I don't think that it should exist although I still struggle in my mind again to reconcile the fact that you have an r5 CPU that's comparably priced that has much more that's disposal than this and you only maybe you lose five to ten frames in most games at modest resolutions so I still kind of stand by my statement when I say that the rise in five CPUs are gonna be better in ninety ninety-five percent of circumstances but if you just strictly game that's all you care about you can't go wrong with this I mean this is gonna be within five to ten percent of what an i7 8700 K can do and it's the king of gaming so to be able to get something close to that right in a price point that's around 200 bucks for a CPU is pretty darn good and that's what we expect normally from Intel is that superior gave me performance but not necessarily the future proof that you might want in some like a quad core or a hexa core CPU with that I want to know what you guys think would you consider an i5 8400 in your next rig if you're already sporting one tell me what you think about it and if you are considering in the future upgrading and if so what to just so I can get a prospect for what people are looking for next once they have an i5 is this good enough for you do you see it as being good enough for you 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