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okay so it's pretty easy to hate on Intel this point when it's all said and done blue team chips aren't more expensive per watt and often per frame they often run hotter even after we got what we wanted with a soldered solution which arguably didn't change much all I can speak for today is this little guy right here the Intel Core I 999 hundred K it's eight cores and sixteen threads may look formidable on paper and indeed this is the best gaming CPU on the market but only barely and you know what else looks formidable on paper the price so regardless of where Intel sees it son whoops and conveniently this video is sponsored by blue apron if you're looking for farm-fresh ingredients to be delivered directly to your doorstep in exact proportions look no further blue apron boxes are packaged safely and securely to ensure your food arrives fresh you can cook everything to spec in 40 minutes or less thanks to included a recipe guys trust me if I can do this you can too fellas if you're 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roughly 5 gigahertz overclock for our core I 999 hundred K our mother mode of choice is the gigabyte z 390 desig NER a skew targeted at content creators thanks to its large array of ports and features plus it's a sexy board and I like sexy boards at 5 gigahertz to see you reach toasty 100 degrees at the hottest core and 100 degrees at the package this is T Junction they should know that beforehand which means these temps likely would have gone much higher had the CPU not heavily throttled itself and this is with a 360 MLA I oh my you so the best I could do was run a manual overclock across all cores to 4.9 gigahertz with a manual v core of 1.29 still a great solution for gaming but a testament to how hot these chips run and mine is obviously a pretty crappy sample this thing it doesn't seem to benefit much at all from the switch to solder although we do expect the temperatures to jump a little bit because we're packing two more cores at around the same frequency inside a very similar package see yeah the switch to solder really doesn't seem to benefit the CP much at all I mean this could be a poor solder job or it could be poor sort of composition maybe both but we just know the CPU runs hot also at full throttle msconfig in prime95 the 9900 cave pulled a roughly 215 Watts through the 8 pin EPS almost fully saturating that cable so manual overclocks to 5 gigahertz likely push a single 8 pin out of spec which explains why the z3 90 designate boasts an additional 4 pin CPU power connection this endorsed by the way the 8700 k's power draw with the same workload and frequency these extra two cores are very difficult for intel to manage and again such a small package at the same high frequency that intel's used to running these chips at what we'll do for the remainder of this video is look at actual eight core cpu applications like blender content creation and streaming will throw in games as well but this is not something you want to buy just strictly for gaming I don't think at this point because you can get you as you'll see here shortly six core variants that perform almost identically and to reiterate many multi-threaded workloads still won't properly utilize 16 threads let alone eight this all comes back to the point of the core race to begin with so AMD emphasized higher core count since arguably bulldozer but they didn't stop cutting corners until Rison at which point eight cores the true eight cores more than FX architecture here became rather mainstream so despite their lackluster improvements over four and six core counterparts Rison seven series CPUs have been doing quite well in the consumer market and that leads us finally to the eight or Intel equivalent today the remaining CPUs were overclocked to their highest stable frequencies with the same 360 ml a IO so we have 4.90 Gertz for the 8700 K and 8600 K to match our 9900 K conveniently and 4.2 gigahertz for the 2700 X we're going to test in this video as well the same 16 gig kit of 3000 megahertz of ddr4 from Corsair was also used for all three actually all four of these tests so the 9900 K is just barely the best gaming CPU around at this point we expect nothing less but most of the margins here between our top three contenders in particular are extremely slim in fact even our core i5 overclocked before point nine is working wonders with its six cores and 6 threads remember no multi-threading here and this extends often into four core territory as well though marketing hype over core counts would lead you to believe that four core CPUs are inadequate for gaming a 20-18 to be completely honest if I shoved an i5 7400 into the mix which I did for a couple of games the step-down and framerate is typically very gradual now sure there are exceptions it's easy to point out the exceptions right but I can count on one hand the number of games today that appropriately utilize more than four cores and that's saying something so games today still largely leverage frequency and IPC and in the case of GTA v optimization in general is probably a stronger factor I would say than anything else although this does lean slightly in favor of Intel I think we get a better representation overall of what to expect in most games now where we start to see this fall apart is in the streaming department so while hosting a 5 megabit per second stream which is pretty conservative with an x264 encoder which stresses the cpu the staircase widens out just a bit but while the 9900 K does a significantly better job than say the core i5 the 8700 K and 2700 X still hold their own in fact you'd be hard-pressed to tell the difference between any of these CPUs while streaming and gaming simultaneously let alone one or the other especially when over clogged all of these CPUs are up to the task yes even our core i5 at 4.9 it obviously isn't the optimal solution but it'll do so far all we've gotten from our core i9 over its small counterparts is a hotter room and significantly more power drum I said this in a previous video but I need to be extremely impressed with at least one aspect of these tests for the 9900 K in order to recommend it at its current selling price of around 500 bucks assuming it's even in stock for that price so let's try a rendering that Adobe Premiere isn't the best program admittedly to run in the sense that it doesn't properly utilize much past around 6 threads but it's the program that I use on a near daily basis for video editing and rendering the Adobe suite though painfully frustrating at times is great at what it does and that's why it is so popular so starting out I dragged a one-minute 4k 30fps video clip onto the timeline and applied the warp stabiliser distortion effect which attempts to smooth out shaky footage our testing several months ago revealed that this is a largely single threaded workload so we shouldn't expect to see much of a difference here between our core I 9 and Core i5 counterparts and sure enough things are quite similar across the board for the blue team our frequencies match the architecture is practically unchanged and the remainder of our system was literally identical next up scrubbing a heavy timeline at full scale a weaker chips will fail this test pretty hard ultimately this just comes down to subjectivity if I notice that the timeline is scrubbing better you know I have less skips overall for a certain CPU over a competitor it'll rank higher on this chart so in this case the i9 is definitely scrubbing better than the 8700 K which in turn scrubbed significantly better than its arisin counterpart likely due to the presence of an IG P in these Intel chips Premiere Pro software enhancements pretty recent software enhancements along with quick sync software enhancements allow integrated graphics to run in tandem with CUDA acceleration drastically improving scrubbing features and a render times speaking of which our last content creation test revolves around those render times here we expect clock speed to play more of a role than raw core count this is just the nature of the program again so a five-minute 4k video file in this case rendered using the YouTube 4k preset places a 9900 K just ahead of the 8700 K not far about a 30-second spread here the 2700 X there's a fair job as well in this regard despite its a lack of an IG P just something to point out the CPU is significantly cheaper than its eight core blue team rival and this is where well the remainder of the video becomes rather pointless I mean I ran a few 3d mark tests you can see here with these CPUs as well as blender and handbrake scenarios but they're meant to do many things at once and yet no matter how hard I tried I could not get the 9900 K to do anything the 8700 K and 2700 X couldn't I even opened 50 chrome tabs all with YouTube videos playing the background while streaming and gaming in an attempt to stunt the lower tier CPUs but no R 16 gigs of ram which should be pretty obvious became the bottleneck instead so what should you conclude then from these tests right that the core I 9 is overpriced well yeah I mean we said that in the beginning but even if we assume an extremely conservative price of say four hundred and fifty bucks for this thing I still say it's overpriced from precedent alone it should be no more than $400 that's my opinion the 8700 K gave us two extra cores and 7700 K before it but we never paid 500 plus USD here in the states I mean maybe for a very short amount of time but it was never permanent and this all ties back in part to the supply shortage we discussed in this video right here it also ties into the fact that Intel's a company with a large market share they have their shareholders profit margins and customers just like AMD though I'm left questioning why this CPU even exists in the first place so what was Intel thinking well they were thinking about money they were thinking about their shareholders their profit margins what we just said I mean like any other company out there especially a company that's public this is no different than AMD I'm not trying to separate Intel from AMD in this sense they're they're all the same AMD just looks to be a more consumer friendly option right now because they're not in a sense charging more than they probably could or should for a product you can blame the supply shortage all you want but if Intel really wanted to sell these things to the masses they would price it much lower than they currently are and they would find ways to increase the supply so that consumers could actually get their hands on them and test them I'm kind of surprised I even got one of these especially now I mean you can't find them but for a hundred bucks or so from third-party sellers on sites like Newegg so until knew that people were gonna buy the cpu despite its 200 plus watt power draw under overclock low despite its toasty temperatures even with just MCE enabled and despite the fact that a beefier motherboard would likely be needed for any manual overclock they knew all the stuff going into it they knew they would probably still sell these well I think they wish they had more supply to meet the demand there's still a heavy demand for the CPU despite what reviewers like myself might tell you but I this is definitely not my favorite CPU I actually have a video again coming up regarding my favorite Intel CPU already did my favorite AMD CPU right here so that video is coming soon but it is obviously not the 9900 K it is too expensive at this price I think it's too expensive arguably at 450 bucks I think it should be priced at 400 bucks or slightly below that then it would make sense in my eyes 8 cores really does most people no good to be completely honest 6 cores is kind of a sweet spot right now so the eighties 100 K is what I would recommend are the 8086 K whichever one is cheaper if again been fluctuating due in part to the supply shortage but in a nutshell my conclusion is this don't buy the 9900 K buy something that's a little more reasonable for the average user for the typical consumer eight cores again it's I think it ties a lot into the marketing hype we promoted eight cores with Rison but it was cheaper it was significantly cheaper than 550 bucks right now again for a small percentage in frame rate bumps over the 8700 K which was already the gaming keene so that's my conclusion I kinda went off script there but I wanted to give you guys a little bit of a heart-to-heart at the end of this one because you should definitely be smart with your money in this case and it's easy to say I want the best of the best of the 9900 K is what I'm gonna buy but you could be a lot smarter with your purchase and see next to no difference at all by choosing to forgo the 9900 K for the 8700 K let's say or even the 80 600 K or the 2700 X to the 2700 or even the 2600 there are so many options out there and frankly a lot of them are much better purchase choices purchase decisions than the 9900 K okay I'll stop rambling now let me know what you guys think of the comments below give this video a thumbs up you thought it was cool dislike it for the complete opposite feeling or if you hate everything about life you guys can click that red subscribe button down below by the way that's what it's for and I'll catch you in the next one science studio thanks for benchmarking with us