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Z170 vs. X99: Gaming & Rendering Showdown

2017-01-11
if you're dead set on an Intel Core i7 for your next video editing and gaming PC you're probably deciding at this point between the i7 5820k or ATS 6800 k Broadway counterpart or the i7 6700 K or it's KB Lake 7700 K counterpart for the record is 7700 K isn't much of an improvement over its skylake counterpart nor is the 6800 K over its haswell-e counterpart these newer CPUs have almost identical IPC gains over their inferiors and won't alter your frame rates by any substantial amount clock for clock so this video will attempt to tackle both the gaming and editing / or rendering sides of the equation this should be rather black-and-white for those interested in only playing video games but there are a few exceptions worth mentioning and while content creators tend to focus on core counts over clock speeds optimization is key let's start off first with the latter the 5820k seems like an obvious choice here 6 cores 12 threads excellent overclocking Headroom but at the expense of well a greater expense not always but you can usually build on a comparable z170 platform for a few bucks less on a good day a 5820k will set you back around 300 to 340 u.s. dollars the same can be said of the 6700 K although x99 motherboards yep that's where they get you are anywhere from fifty to a hundred bucks more expensive on average and that price can go up to upwards of 400 to 500 dollars that's insane for a motherboard but that's what you get with the x99 chipset but if price isn't a concern it should just come down to which CPU performs better in any particular task in this case rendering and gaming so we're going to look at right now we'd expect based on synthetic workload tests that at 4.6 gigahertz each the 5820k would have a slight edge it's technically 25% faster clock for clock including all of its cores but that won't matter if the programming question isn't properly optimized to handle six physical cores Adobe Premiere is no exception and that's the program that I use it's the one that a lot of professionals use and that's why I use it when I benchmark CDs like this for content creation you're looking at a 6.5 percent difference in rendering times and in case you're wondering tacking on an additional two cores and four threads the $1,000 6900 k yields similar margins yeah I was let down to say the least Puget systems reveals a wide array of tests showing how the law of diminishing returns plays a huge role past for course for this program I have a link to this article in the video description to check it out for more details your results will vary depending on your program of choice for example DaVinci Resolve tends to be more GPU dependent and something like After Effects heavily relies on clock speed in general but as a rule of thumb more cores isn't always better which is why I've stayed away from Zeon's in this video I know not everyone will agree with me but if you want my two cents I say the 6700 K is the winner of the content creation realm it's just the all-around best bang for the buck CPU out there for rendering for editing for content creation in general if you're using something like Adobe Premiere to edit and upload videos sure you could spend over $1000 for marginally better performance no one is arguing that those CPUs are better at their jobs but from a price to performance standpoint you'd be crazy to do so for strictly this purpose multi multi-core CPUs are designed for entirely different workloads and programs that take full advantage of the horsepower taking a step back here's a bare-bones i7 editing rig build list for anyone interested as you can see a cheap motherboard and modest power supply are key when it comes to keeping the price down no need to spend 200 plus US dollars on a z17 yearsí 270 motherboard no need to spend 200 plus dollars on a power supply when a $100 power supply would do the job just fine these parts are linked in the video's description by the way let me know what you think now on to gaming already have a video here explaining the relevance of core i7s in the gaming sphere it's a tricky subject only because people are always looking so far ahead and using the term future-proof but right up front it is difficult to justify one in the context of most modern titles battlefield one among the few exceptions but if you're considering an i7 for the purpose of future proofing your brand-new PC straight up the 6700 K again is the way to go consider GTA 5 first here's a great balance of CPU and GPU horsepower at work and a resolution that severely tugs on neither component with equivalent specifications across the board save the CPU and of course the motherboard the 6700 K fools ahead ever so slightly the most noticeable difference is in the minimums both runs of this benchmark we're smooth and uninterrupted and it's unlikely you'd be able to distinguish between the two but a wins a win and that's all we're going by here City skylines up next leverages three cores heavily verified here and because of this gives the point to the 6700 K the skylake cpu stronger single core performance plays a huge role here and the fact that the game isn't optimized for anything above three cores really doesn't give an edge to the 5820k when games aren't optimized for more cores that are offered by the CPU at hand primary limiting factors will be frequency and core strength instructions per clock is an attempt to measure these variables quite the opposite of GTA v which is kind of weird cities yields identical minimums and a 5 FPS disparity on average again still smooth gameplay you won't be able to tell the difference these are i7s we're talking about but 5 FPS is 5 fps another win for the 6700 K now let's change it up a bit Counter Strike global Offensive csgo this one surprised me looking at FPS disparities in the 20s across the board signaling an interesting shift in game optimization these are very high frame rate so our CPUs are being heavily leveraged perhaps explaining the difference for extra threads and go a long way for a few games speaking of a few I'm sure you're wondering how battlefield one turned out quite like you might expect actually thanks to the six cores in the 5820k in 1440p we see 80 vs. 84-68 474 a definite win for the 5820k it's a hot topic right now forecasting CPU usage for triple-a titles to be released in the future is higher core count gaming the trend of the future do you expect these frame rates to shift nonlinearly as resolution changes by the way and 1080p expect the 50 20 KS lead to increase and in 4k expect it to diminish as GPU usage increases but let's not get carried away I can count probably on one hand a number of games that successfully utilize more than 4 physical cores it's why I 5s are so dang popular in the gaming community streaming and multitasking are another matter I had several videos on the subject but for now this battlefield 1 benchmark does not represent a majority of the scenarios you'll encounter so let's end with Witcher 3 it's a GPU hungry game and limiting ourselves to a single 1070 definitely affects things here let's try our best to dissect this one first up the i7 6700 k1 the minimum category in the 5820k when the average category so what does this mean from the standpoint of the CPU not much the graphics card is what's being abused here I reran this benchmark to show you see now the 5820k wins the minimum category in the 6700 K the average I imagine if I kept running this benchmark over and over which I won't do because it's very time consuming these scores would just continue to flip-flop back and forth when your GPU bound anything goes the tiniest of stalls can result in substantial frame rendering delays substantial and processing terms affecting frame rates and unpredictable ways when it comes to CPUs we can limit background processes and rearrange orders of operation through tools like the task manager but with graphics cards it's completely different software revisions for example can lead to drastic performance impacts when it comes to graphics cards many of which are unpredictable and difficult to isolate nonetheless I'm calling this want to draw thanks to the nature of which are three and it's GPU bound behavior so you've seen how there are several several variables to consider there is no black and white answer not when it comes to these two CPUs right here there's no black and white answer as to which processor is better for gaming nor content creation for that matter because program optimization is difficult to quantify what I can say is that both are fine for both just straight-up price aside it comes down to which you'd rather invest in what your upgrade paths look like five years from now what graphics card or card you're using keep PCIe lanes in the back of your mind as well but if you want my answer my personal just stance on this whole issue I'm making a secret about this having gamed and edited on both for several months the 6700 K but the decent overclock is the surefire way to go or the 7700 K just keep interchanging those whichever is cheaper at that point in time not much change from 67 to 77 so don't upgrade if you were thinking about doing that they're all great CPUs and will last you a long time I don't like using the term future proofing but whatever yes I 7s are more future proof than I 5s it's kind of obvious why but are you willing to put your money your mouth is that is the question hop on over to this video right here for more details if you like this video this one you're watching right now be sure to give this one a thumbs up give it a thumbs down if you feel the complete opposite or if you hate everything about life be sure to click that subscribe button if you haven't already don't be shy folks stay tuned for a plethora of other videos I have planned I have a huge list of topics I might hit on in the next month or so and also several products that I need to review in a timely manner so bear with me on 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