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1950X THREADRIPPER Vs. i9-7900X - Review & Comparison

2017-09-10
after Computex 2017 in taiwan boats AMD and intel announced their high-end desktop architectures named Li the X 299 and X 399 architectures now Intel have already introduced their $1,000 7900 X CPU which I've already reviewed here on the channel and despite all the drawbacks and flaws of that CPU it still did have a place in today's enthusiast market however this brings us today to the 1950 X which is a CPU that comes in at just under $1000 999 u.s. to be exact it features 16 cos 32 threads and I've found that this CPU that I have here was able to be overclocked to 4 gigahertz across all those cause not only that the CPU out of the box comes clocked in at 3 point 4 Giga so it is pretty decent out of the box for 16 cores 32 threads especially for those guys who want to come from a dual Xeon workstation for example and are thinking about upgrading to a platform such as X 399 however I'm going to roll those benchmarks for you and then we're gonna talk about the main differences between these two CPUs looking at the test bench specs used for this comparison we have the X 399 gaming professional from asrock this is a board that worked perfectly out of the box and without this motherboard I wouldn't be able to do this comparison so big thank you to asrock for this model water currently cost around 440 dollars or if you're in astray around about 670 AUD so put the links in the description below for that and then lastly for the cooling solution we're using the H 100 IV 2 from Corsair now we had to actually change the bracket around from the stock bracket to the included bracket for Rison and since this is an ace tech based circular model it was able to fit with ease however keep in mind that other coolers may have problems fitting to the X 399 platform and the H 100 was the only cooler that I could use so the benchmarks as always do all the talking and what we saw with the 1950 ex was a cpu that kicked a lot of ass when it came to productivity and when we go through the list we had 7-zip Cinebench pros onus Adobe Excel pov-ray all these situations showed that the 1950 X was beating the 7900 X both at its stock speeds and it's overclocked speeds and that was really good because there were a thousand dollars if you're spending this amount of money on a CPU then you probably will want it to perform really well and productivity I'd imagine someone who has the money to spend both on the CPU and the more expensive motherboard costs which we'll get on to a bit later in this review I'd imagine if you're spending that amount of money you'd want to be saving time where the absolute performance and that price performance premium over something like arisin 7 1700 and the be 350 motherboard for example is justified because that amount of time you're saving is going to be worth more than the additional cost of the 1950 X however another thing I decided to do with this review was throwing gaming benchmarks and also streaming benchmarks and we can see with a streaming benchmarks that the 7900 X does have a place in today's market if you're a streamer in your life revolves around streaming day in and day out and the 7900 X is probably going to be the best cpu for you however keep in mind you can still stream and game on the 1950 X it's a perfectly playable experience and if you guys watch my 7900 x review you realize that that didn't pull ahead really of they even liked the Verizon 7 1800 X which is under half the cost and similar to the Verizon 7 1700 and also the 7700 K did score a lot of victories when it came to gaming so if your only experiences with gaming and all you want to do is play games then the 7700 K is going to be a better buy for you than both of these CPUs and another thing to mention is the Verizon 7 1700 can be had for under $300 and a be 350 motherboard can be had for under $100 and together that makes just one absolute kick-ass performance PC for streaming and even doing things like Adobe Premiere Pro 4k video editing so really when it comes down to it the 1950 X is one of those CPUs you will want to get when you need to save time and of course that is an absolute must on your priority list it's also before I get on out of here I wanted to talk about the 1950 ex and some of its behavior of traits especially overclocking which I know a lot of you guys will probably want to get this CPU and maybe even put it under water overclock it and see how it goes so for this testing I did use a H 100 i from corsair it was really the only cooler I had around here that fitted with the bracket I believe it's a stock ace tech circular bracket that you can put on and it does need a new mounting system so x3 99s alignment of bolts are different to any other architecture out there so keep in mind though if you are buying this CPU and you want to get a cooler for it just keep in mind that it does come with a bracket but if you are using one of those coolers then you will need to go find a cooler that supports this bracket or you will need to go get a new custom water block for horizon X 399 of course you can use an air cooler as well which will work out of the box but keep in mind the power consumption is considerable even at stock settings so we had a hundred and seventy-three Watts out of the box with Verizon when it was stressed in i-264 so of course that is a lot of heat to keep onto the hood but one thing to remember is of course again 16 cos 32 threads at 4 gigahertz now one thing I will talk about as well with the overclocking behavior of the CPU is the actual extra millivolts needed to get this to 4 gigahertz for instance 3.9 5 gigahertz I was able to boot up and run all my tests at 1.31 volts when I went up to 4 gigahertz I needed an extra 30 milli volts in order to get that overclock stable and running and of course with that was a lot of extra power consumption and a lot of extra Heat so if you guys are buying this CPU I'd recommend tuning it to its sweet spot and finding out where those diminishing returns really kick in and in the case of Rison that's usually between 3.8 and 4 gigahertz the 1950 ex of course being no different as the other smaller variants and another thing that was interesting is the pricing of both these CPUs the 1950 ex is coming in at at suggested retail price which is great these 7900 X's coming in $40 I guess that's due to less demand possibly than the 1950 X that's coming in at 960 us and in Australia this pricing is kind of following through a little bit as well with the 7900 X costing thirteen hundred and forty Australian and these 19 50 X costing fourteen hundred a strain there is the cheaper 1920 X which is twelve calls in twenty four threads which is going for eleven hundred AUD and in the u.s. that's going for around eight hundred u.s. but one thing that interests me the most was the motherboard costs the X 399 chipset variants were actually it more expensive on average than the X 299 variants I'm not sure why this is perhaps that massive socket does add in extra cost to the board manufacture costs because in America the cheapest x3 9 I'm bored I could find was around 360 u.s. the cheapest x2 9 I'm bored I could find was about 260 u.s. and in Australia this was the same deal with 400 a UD vs. 500 AUD respectively also two pretty big factors to consider when buying a 1950 X versus a 7900 X is the fact that the 1950 X has 64 PC a 3.0 lanes available and the 7900 X has 44 lanes available also with the x3 99 chipsets a lot of the times ECC memory will actually work on this platform as with X to 99 it actually won't work I believe you have to get the C for 4 2 0 and chipset and that of course with the ECC memory will only work with xeon cpus so now it's time for that final verdict where i'm going to tell you guys which i think is better in what scenario in the 1950 ex is for that person who needs those cores and needs those threads you can get it up to 4 gigahertz and as you saw in the Cinebench the max theoretical performance out of this thing is absolutely incredible so if you need the cause you need the threads and you need it for those workstation or productivity applications then 1950 X thread Ripper CPU is going to kick a lot of ass the 7900 X however of course it doesn't perform as well because it only has 10 cores and 20 threads though it does have better IP scene it does clock higher and I found that someone like a streamer it still does have a place in the market of course though I will stress this before I go out of here both these CPUs are very expensive investments so you will want to know which one is best for you before you pull the trigger on either these CPUs and also another thing with the 1950 X and it's gaming performance it wasn't bad at all you could still play games perfectly fine with the 1950 X and get a very enjoyable experience and even today's GPU the 1080 Ti is geared up towards higher resolutions I just deliberately tested it at lower resolutions for people of course that want to know everything about these CPUs however if you're into 4k gaming or 1440p gaming and you're getting it with a high end GPU like a 1080 TI then the game of performance is gonna be completely fine so you guys hope you enjoyed today's review of the 1950 X and the comparison against the 7900 X if you did the me sure to hit that like button and let me know in the comments section below if you had a choice between getting a 1950 X and a 70 900 X which would you get and why love reading your comments as always and I'll catch you in another tech video very soon peace out for now bye
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