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2400G Delid FAIL | Single Channel Vs. Dual Channel DDR4 Memory for Ryzen OCed 2200G & 2400G APUs

2018-02-14
there's good news and there's bad news and the good news is kind of bad news anyways so the first things first probably seen the thumbnail and the title and yes I have failed my day lid with the 2400 G so this is the first d lid I've failed in my life and I've been deleting for a few years now and when I first started deleting I was a barbarian as well so the irony is this time around I was really careful and took my time with this D lid and I still failed so the room for error with D letting a risin apu is so small if you guys are going to deal with this thing just be very careful take a lot of time you may even wish to use razor blade and the vise together or there may be some other new method that comes into play that's a new metal I'm not too sure but I use the vise method and I took my time and I still took off a layer of SM DS and as you can see they're just pretty much right on the glue they're right next to the glue and is actually funny because the one that's only a few mil back that was still on the PCB so that's how much room margin of error you've got for dealing with these new ap use and on that note I'm not going to be deleting another Raven Ridge apu and i'm not going to be recommending people deal with them either but I've also ordered in another 2400 G because I wanted to do a giveaway for you guys so stay tuned for that but let's get on with those results welcome back to tech yes City this brand coming to you guys today with those results single a gigabyte stick versus a dual channel kits we'll pull up the results here I tested three different games and after this I could see the general trend and it wasn't good pulling up dota 2 first of all we have thirty two hundred megahertz in dual channel scoring 61 average FPS point one percent low of 44 moving over to single channel it was a at 26 66 megahertz you got 32 average FPS and point one percent lows we're matching in tandem to the 32 hundred megahertz speeds single stick of 32 hundred megahertz speed did do a little bit better so we've got 34 average and 0.1% lows coming in under 30 there so basically with dota 2 going from a 8 gigabyte dual channel to a single 8 gigabyte stick we saw a halving of the frame rates basically in this game that was a huge drop and now moving over to Rainbow six siege we could see that this trend was continuing into this game we had 54 average FPS on 32 hundred megahertz dual channel kit and then stepping that down to a single channel 2666 we had 27 average fps and the minimum there of 22 and then moving it up to 30 200 megahertz on a single 8 gig stick we had 26 average and 20 minimum so wasn't looking good at all in Rainbow six either basically if you're on an APU we're seeing that you will want to go with a dual channel kit whether it be an 8 gigabyte kit or a 16 gigabyte kit but let's look at the last game here overwatch I actually tested this for the main Raven Ridge review however I just forgot to look at the results and put them in there I already had six games tested thoroughly so I thought oh why not put it in this overclocking single stick guide and what we had here was 32 hundred megahertz dual channel kit going with an average of seventy one fps 0.1% low of 59 fps stepping that down to 26 67 we had an average of 34 fps then stepping that down to 32 hundred megahertz on a single stick 36 fps so again we saw a massive drop in performance by going from a dual channel kit to a single channel kit so it was basically the difference between this apu having things being playable and thank supreme really bad experience so you guys if you're out there and you want to get on the Raven Ridge ap use you will want to get on a dual channel kit whether it be an 8 gig kit or whether it be a 16 gig kit but the bottom line is you will have to set aside generally you want to gigabytes of vram buffer set aside for the APU so if you're on an eight-game kit that's gonna drop you down to 6 gigabytes of system memory so that still will be playable for games like 4 night dota 2 csgo there's some games for instance Call of Duty they might need more than 6 cubits of system memory so as I said in the main review the ddr4 Ram prices are definitely overshadowing the AP use potential as really good value for money and that seems to be the case as you can see with these results so in a nutshell I wouldn't recommend deleting the apu i wouldn't recommend going with a single kit of memory unless you want a bad experience but what about overclocking on the AP use here's one thing that i did get out of the 2400 g before I decided to fail that D lid I managed to get it up to thirteen hundred and fifty megahertz on the GFX core three point nine five gigahertz on the CPU core and this was the same with the 2200 year got a little bit less on the GPU core I got that up to thirteen hundred and thirty megahertz stable I did manage to get that up to 1350 however the extra voltage needed to get that extra 20 megahertz was another 25 millivolts so you could see diminishing returns was kicking in after thirteen hundred thirty megahertz on the 2200 G so that's something you want to take note of if you're overclocking this on air especially on budget coolers because that sweet spot will be somewhere between 1300 minutes and 1350 megahertz and yes you'll see people D letting these and also putting them under water and getting much higher overclocks probably somewhere in the 1400s mid 1400s but seriously the diminishing returns is kicking in hard and so your sweet spot is looking like it's between 1300 and 1350 megahertz on the core of the 2200 G now the good news for the 2200 G when I overclocked it it's got basically the same results as the 2400 G out of the box so that was really good news the results were showing here not only in games but also in that 3dmark firestrike score as well and you can see if I pull up the single channel score you can see just how badly those three did my fire strike scores do perform when you step down from dual channel to single channel memory but basically with overclocking and the AP use you will want to overclock them if you can especially give it a bump and find that sweet spot on your own people have requested that I do an APU overclocking tutorial perhaps when I get at my other 2400 gene I can make that happen for you guys just let me know in the comment section below if you want to see that happen but also one more thing before I get on out of here was the 2200 G did exhibit some weird behavior I managed to get the CPU core up to 3.9 5 gigahertz and that was stable and that was giving out a good Cinebench score but the problem is when I started running the fire strike scores especially on a single channel kit of memory we saw the GPU performance get affected by that so basically I had to drop the clocks down on the CPU to get better scores out of the GPU so that's a pretty odd inverse relationship that I noticed coming out of overclocking the 2200 G and also with the 2400 G that had the failed deal it technically it can still work it's just a half do micro sold of those SMDs back on and that is extremely difficult steve from harbor own box has put his hand up to fix this so i'm gonna send my apu down to him and i want to see if he can indeed fix this because man these SMDs are really small so good luck Steve may the force be with you and if you guys enjoyed today's video then be sure to hit that like button and let me know in the comment section below if you want to see some other tests with these ap use and I'll be sure to get that done for you also look forward to giving you that giveaway so stay tuned and I'll catch you in another tech video very soon peace out for now bye just let me know in the comment section below if you want to see that happen but also for a giveaway coming up on the channel but with that let's get on to the kind of seven gigahertz on the CPU core to get better performance out of the GPUs cause
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