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2700X Vs. 8700K | 2700X Vs 1800X | Ryzen 5 2600X & Ryzen 7 2700X Review

2018-04-19
welcome to the launch of risin five and risin 7 mm series six and eight core CPUs today we have a lot of benchmarks to get through but of course answering those most important questions first has the IPC improved and also what about the latency and x4 70's versus x3 70 motherboards first off with the IPC I did notice an improvement testing on Cinebench and also Far Cry primal going with the 4 gigahertz 1,800 X comparing it against the 2700 Expo the 4 gigahertz both with the same memory speeds as well with the same sticks of memory saw an increase from 164 to 168 so those IPC claims are indeed true and also moving over to Far Cry primal there was a little bump in FPS as well so they have improved IPC they have gone from 14 nanometer to 12 nanometer as well change the lithography up and that has enabled the CPUs in my opinion to clock on average about 200 mega it's higher and doing so with a little bit less voltage however in Thailand I also managed to test out a lot of these CPUs and found that they hit brick walls at about four point two five gigahertz after that you had to give them a considerable amount of voltage especially on air and water to get the clocks higher even though I did manage to get one of the CPUs to 4.3 gigahertz in Thailand here at the studio the Mac's overclock was 4.25 gigahertz however I did drop it down to 4.2 because of the diminishing returns anyway with that aside is an X 470 motherboard going to make a difference to performance not in my tests an X 370 and even a be 350 motherboard showed the same memory clocks at least with the XMP profiles and the SOC voltage with the same CPU the 1600 X and the 2700 X across both motherboards so no you don't have to go out and buy a new motherboard you can update your BIOS however do keep in mind with some of the x4 70 motherboards they may have improved vrm designs which may help with overclocks especially at the higher end and now moving on with the improvements on the Zen tuas architecture AMD promised me at the event that there were latency reductions across the board level 1 level 2 level 3 cache and also the ddr4 memory latencies and when I put the CPUs through their paces I did indeed notice a massive reduction in the level 2 latency in particular level 1 didn't change so much three there was an improvement as well and of course the ddr4 memory to the IMC was improved too so that was great to see however another thing that I did notice was that since these chips do in my opinion have a better integrated memory controller at least compared to my 1800 X that was a last year's initial launch sample I noticed that I was able to squeeze an extra two hundred and sixty-six mega Hertz on the memory so I went from thirty-two hundred with my ddr4 g.skill kit to 34 66 so basically AMD made promises and they delivered on them and they were very transparent about them that is a really good thing that's getting a lot of respect from me but the biggest thing of course as I said before those Layton sees this is why I'm gonna be recommending the rise in CPUs here today in my opinion as soon as I jumped on the 2700 X I just noticed it was snappy and that's one thing I've complained about in the past about the 1800 X I thought it wasn't as snappy as the 8700 K but this here is a true improvement and it's one that I can recommend to enthusiasts not just for gaming but also productivity because of those latency reductions I don't know for some reasons I notice it it's one of those things this CPU architecture feels snappy for that aside let's get on with the other pathar of benchmarks that we have to get through for you guys welcome back to take us sitting before we get on with those gaming and productivity benchmarks I will say the overclocks in these CPUs are enthusiast levels what I call the sweet spot levels I believe overclockers and enthusiasts should be having their CPUs at these levels or somewhere around these levels so for the 2700 X 4 point 2 gigahertz for the 2600 X 4 point 2 gigahertz for the 1800 X 4 gigahertz and for the 8700 K 5 gigahertz now the cooler way using H 110 igt from Corsair and we're also using a GTX 1080 GI from gal ax and they're all at the same speeds and the ambient temperatures were all at 25 degrees during testing now I did validate these results on the X 470 Oris and also the Taichi board so validated on both the motherboards just to weed out any variance and lastly of course for the memory we're using 2 8 gigabyte sticks from g.skill this is 16 16 16 39 timings for very tight timings at 3400 megahertz now I did get these speeds up to 34 66 on the 8700 K 2700 X and 2600 X and on the 1800 X I got up to 3.2 gigahertz to do that imc limitations with that aside let's roll those benchmarks and as always the benchmarks paint the biggest picture of all when it came to productivity we saw the 2700 X and the 2600 X we're absolutely flooring it and also in terms of value for money 329 bucks and this thing's posting up some incredible Cinebench scores some great post rendering times in Adobe Premiere Pro and also included the new benchmark v-ray which showed that the 2700 X is indeed winning them out of the pack here and so it is coming into the lower price point than the 8700 K so if productivity and saving time is something that you need then the 2,700 X will provide that especially like where the CPU is coming out in my previous video I was already knew I was going to like this thing because the included Wraith prism cooler looks really nice too it's an RGB cooler managed to get the CPU up to four point zero five gigahertz the 2600 X that's coming in at $229 comes with a raised spire that can get it up to 3.8 gigahertz now the Wraith stealth I did manage to test this because this is the cooler coming in with the horizon 520 609 X and I could only get this up to 3.4 gigahertz so I was a little bit surprised to see that spire disappear on the non x6 core variant that is sort of like a little bit of a loss in chunk of value so the risin 5 2600 those still at $199 you just want to go buy yourself a good cooler and get that thing up to 4 gigahertz + which can easily be done for an extra $30 and of course you can still couple of with the B 350 and notice no detriment to performance so I'm really liking with his new CPUs are coming into the price point and it seems like AMD's close the gap this time around to make the 8 core more appealing in value for money of course moving on with those gaming benchmarks it was great to see an improvement to the AMD CPUs this time around last year they did get criticized for having lackluster gaming performance this year there's an improvement there and of course I got to see firsthand how much really good memory makes a difference for this architecture of course it will give a boost to the Intel CPUs as well that's not to be taken away from but another thing as well as the 8700 K will still be the king for gaming there's no denying that my results here show that in some games as well especially if they're single-threaded IPC dependent games the 8700 K 5 gigahertz are still going to floor it when it comes to gaming and if you're a competitive gamer and you need the best FPS possible that's still going to be the choice for competitive gamers but whether rising comes into a play is that it's soldered from the die to the IHS you get a really good cooler especially the $329 2700 X and the productivity benchmarks beat that of the 8700 K so if you want something that's more balanced that's going to save you time when it comes to working and can still get up and play games really well then the 2700 X is going to be my recommendation 2600 X is still going to be a good buy but since ddr4 Ram prices are still expensive I would be personally going for the 2700 X if I have to choose and of course the 2700 it's clocked lower and it comes with the spire RGB LED cooler which is inferior to the prism and the prism looks really good and even if you're not going to use it on a build you can definitely sell that thing for more than $30 that I'm sure of you guys when it comes down to it I know they'll probably be some people out there who are disappointed this only gets another 200 megahertz over the 1,800 X on average and it only has a 3% IPC improvement but for me I've been harping on about the latency and the snappiness in the last year and that to me is the biggest improvement of the 2700 X I feel like AMD have absolutely nailed it in making this CPU not only a Productivity King and especially for the money but also making it a snappy really low latency fast driven CPU one that I can certainly recommend and one that I'll definitely be putting in my main rig and making yet another switch but before I do that I'll be doing some very deep testing for you guys we'll be testing some things don't worry about that and also before I get on out here as well the expo 70 motherboards do come with a sense in my technology I wasn't provided the driver to install that just yet so I will be testing that when AMD are ready to launch that but you do get the license included with x4 70 motherboards there are no B 450 motherboards yet I'm not sure if AMD plans to release them but I'm pretty sure they will later on down the track but of course you can get a be 350 motherboards we're very cheap update the BIOS and get yourself a really good value for money that's still a good option available and I like that AMD leaving that option open to enthusiasts who want the best bang for your buck and of course in those gaming benchmarks we did see the 2600 X pool ever so slightly ahead of the 2700 X and as I said before it's probably due to it having an allocation of more level 3 cache and also if you enjoyed this video then be sure to hit that like button let me know in the comments section below if you have any questions or what you think of the rise in 2000 series the new 12 nanometers n + chips Lovering your thoughts and opinions as always and look forward to a lot more comparisons hitting the channel but to quickly recap 329 bucks a cause 16 threads with the rays prism cooler it's hitting very hard especially since they've soldered the died of the IHS and also the 2600 X as well that's hitting hard the way do prefer the 2700 X and also the 8700 K that's not going anywhere that's still the king of IPC and single thread performance coupled with this six cores and twelve threads but of course competition is here and it's happy days and I'll catch you in another tech video very soon peace out for now bye we're all improved and now putting this Vinton so MDI welcome back to check es city here we have the Gaines welcome back to take your city and we're going to get into the productivity and gaming benchmarks but we did so as always the benchmarks do a big painting of that picture and what we've got here and as always the benchmarks do all the painting when it comes to finalizing that picture for you guys um anyway there it is AMD delivering so what can I say
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