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a few months ago here on the channel Euler the msi rep came to the Gold Coast and she wanted me to show her around and I did indeed do that I took her on a used parts hunt but during that video she was telling me how good msi laptops were and my response to her was I wouldn't know I haven't tried it yet however at CES earlier this year I did check out all the laptops at the msi booth and i thought this one here the GS 75 stealth was one of the very few systems that I'd actually be interested in since it does have a small footprint it is portable yet it does pack some heavyweight hardware inside with an r/t X 20 80 max q and also an i7 8750 H which is a 6 core 12 threaded processor though it is very expensive coming in a 2800 USD and 4200 Aussie dollars and you're probably thinking like me at this price point this thing better be perfect and that's exactly what I'm going to do I'm gonna put it through all the paces testing out the monitor the hardware inside the gaming benchmarks also tests like onboard audio to see if this thing is worthy of that price tag which is already really high with outside let's get straight into it so we just finished out testing this panel on this laptop and it's coming in from a company called Eno locks and it's a 17.3 inch IPS 144 hertz panel with a 3h hard coat matte coating on the panel itself measuring them with a rating of 300 CCD nits of brightness but when we did the uniformity testers going up to 441 so that's very good with only a 9 percent difference in the worst to best lighting zones so it was very well controlled the backlight bleed wasn't noticeable at all and there was no visible cross hatching with an orange background out of the box this monitor is set to a mode called srgb and running it through the color accuracy test it was actually quite surprisingly on point with the only noticeable thing being pretty much the white balance being a bit too high in that of favor of the blue levels but basal if you needed something that could game and it was pretty accurate for photo and video editing this screen will definitely deliver now looking at the total system input lag and also the response times whilst testing csgo with a 1000 fps camera it can tell us both these figures and for the average input lag we got twenty five point six milliseconds with a best drawer of 22 milliseconds and a worse drawer of 30 milliseconds across ten runs and then moving on to the response times we analyzed this within the same set of results and we see here that the best frame transition is four milliseconds worst frame transition is five milliseconds so the advertised three milliseconds response times aren't too far off however it is important to note that there is no overdrive setting on this monitors so femicide were to work with the panel manufacturer and implement an overdrive feature I believe we could get the response times down to three milliseconds but in the past we've seen desktop machines here come down to as low as nine milliseconds so if I had to guesstimate input lag for this panel it would inherently be between ten to fifteen milliseconds basically what I'm trying to say is the input lag is pretty low and the response times are pretty good but now it's time to get on to the gaming benchmarks since this thing does have an RT X 2080 max-q inside which is essentially designed for power efficiency so you do lose a bit of performance compared to the desktop RT X 2080 but how much performance do you lose let's take it through the paces and also try and over and see what numbers we can get so we're now finished up the gaming benchmarks here I tested three different games at 1080p max settings and I gotta say that I'm not too impressed with the r-tx twenty eighty max Q even though the power consumption is pretty good so this laptop when you've got the adapter plugged in it will juice around 170 watts with the total including the screen if that's set to the lowest brightness setting max brightness settings 200 watts but if we move into the gaming numbers we can see that the max Q 2080 is below that of a desktop variant of the RT X 2070 and darrid said becoming closed around that of an RT X 2060 desktop variant now for the overclocking on this laptop is actually surprisingly decent in that the form factor itself is so small we've got a two point one five kilo package and 820 grams on the adapter so it's less than three kilograms to travel with this thing and the size is 26 centimeters by thirty nine and a half centimeters and then at the front it's 21 mil tall and then 24 milto at the back so the form factor is phenomenal and what they've crammed inside its just with that RT X 28 Emacs q naming scheme it's sort of nowhere near a desktop variant of a 2080 they're like two different worlds apart and I think it's kind of close to a $350 RT X 2060 even though you pay a big premium to get a 28 Emacs Q in these laptops over that of a 20 70 max q the speaking of the noise and cooling solution in this laptop the graphics card maxed out at around about 70 degrees and then the CPU did go up to about 96 degrees however it does have a dynamic throttling depending on those temperatures and also how many cores are in play it will throttle the CPU according to that so all calls in either 64 was averaging out about 2.3 gigahertz Cinebench was getting up to around 3 gigahertz and ER these scores we got 1018 Cinebench on the initial run followed by about 930 points on the subsequent runs so once it does get hot it does throw a little bit but in games the CPU will boost up to higher speeds to that of around 3.8 to 3.9 gigahertz the noise itself doesn't get too loud on Mac's fan speeds are measuring about 30 eight to 40 decibels when we're inside a game and the fans were ramping up the ventilation of this system is quite good though if you are using this for long extended periods of gaming and you are at home for example I would recommend getting a notebook cooler where you can put it on the tray with the fans underneath and allow cooling where the bottom of the laptop was getting the most hottest and that's where it was during the air in and since it is very close to the ground itself with a low def height allowing more air to come in the bottom would help with cooling I believe the last thing I will note is that the keyboard does get a little bit hot when you're gaming so if you have sweaty hands already the heat from this keyboard will come out due to the components underneath that like a GPU and CPU pushing out heat so that will add to the heat factor on the keyboard anyway guys there's the gaming benchmarks done and dusted now what I'm gonna do in this last part of the review is go through everything else USB 3 speeds the Knicks as well as the discs and the audio and test that out and the keyboard and also the onboard touch pad to see if they do pass the tech yes benchmark test and also will test that battery life so let's get on with it and now here we are with the final set of tests and for me personally these are probably the most important things with a laptop it's all those little things that matter now we'll say there is a thin bezel on around the edges of the screen but one thing I will point out straight away is that this top part here is extremely sharp to the point where I've actually cut myself three times during this review and then finally on the third time I noticed oh wow this must be coming from the laptop because I was doing some things in between but I never usually cut myself with components like this so I was quite surprised to see that this edge here is actually very sharp and I would like to see them just file it down so it's a lot smoother because using a laptop you probably gonna be in a hurry that's probably one of the reasons for getting a laptop and if you're quickly opening it and slicing yourself up with like harsh paper cuts in this case razor sharp bezel cuts and I could see that being a big problem especially if you're a diabetic but now moving down to the keyboard they've teamed up with SteelSeries to implement scissor switches and I must say that both the RGB and also the feel and typing experience on this keyboard was phenomenal my first time having a go at it I got over a hundred words per minute so it's very easy to type on I like that they've included a full numpad and then rearrange some of the keys to still give you those delete and insert and page down and page up Keys for example however I will critique the windows key placement I always love having that on the left hand side having it on the right hand side was just so awkward for instance I believe they could have made the control button smaller and then fit in the Windows key on the left hand side of the keyboard then moving down to the touch pad that is a extended sort of extra wide touch pad with the buttons integrated into the actual pad itself I do prefer the left and right click separated from the pad itself but that's just me personally I did have a little bit of a hard time using it we keep in mind I usually just plug in a mouse wherever I go because it gets things done a lot quicker but if you need to use it with just one hand and I guess I can see the appeal with this implementation right here though under the speaker quality and also the onboard audio they've implemented in audio left and right stereo speakers and they do a great job of just in casual audio if you are an audiophile you will be seeking that base and also that detail and that's of course you're not gonna get that on a laptop though the onboard audio these headphone and microphone out were of kind of a concern here where the crosstalk levels were just pretty much the worst I've seen to date and I had to actually plug in a pair of headphones and hear this for myself because I thought the software was bugging out initially and sure enough it's pretty much the left channel is just coming on through the right channel and vice versa so if you're gaming with a pair of headphones on with this thing with its own DAC and also even a DC solution since the microphone port itself is very shaky and when you change the decibel gains there's some heavy noise suppression but not only that you can see the quick change when you do change the DB meter is very harsh so in other words your voice will come through very tinny the frequency response curve with the onboard audio after seeing the crosstalk levels I thought wow this might be true because they're all over the place I plugged in an external microphone reading just to make sure it wasn't the line in or the recording in on this laptop and sure enough the mayflower decamp solution with its own ADC onboard was showing the same thing it was just terrible numbers coming out of this onboard audio solution despite the fact that they're using the realtek 12:20 which is actually a decent DAC it's just the implementation of the amp and also the other components on this onboard audio needs some work or maybe it's just getting too close to other components and it's causing interference anyway touching on some other things with this laptop the USB 3 speeds are good going over that of 350 megabytes per second the nic speeds however with the implementation of the killer nic that were getting consistently half of that of a proper 1000 megabits per second nic solution dropping down to half the speeds averaging out around 55 megabytes per second on a consistent transfer speed and when I cross-reference this with my benchmark rig which has an Intel NIC that was going over a hundred megabytes per second so I'd like to see them remove the killer NIC and install something like just a simple Intel NIC the dissipates however in this case they're using a one terabyte rated Intel solution and the speeds were actually very impressive with the reeds going consistently above 3000 megabytes per second all the way through the file transfer test and then the right speeds even though that dropped off after about 45 gigabytes of transfers after the burst speeds were done which was above that of two and a half thousand megabytes per second they did drop down to around 1200 megabytes per second but the consistency of the write speeds was still there there was no big dips it was a pretty smooth line so the actual disk performance on this unit itself is quite impressive and we're almost at conclusion time but before we do we'll go over the inputs and outputs on the right hand side you get HDMI out USB type C and then USB three type a you get two of those as well as a Thunderbolt three out move over to the left hand side you've also got the NIC the power adapter in and also another USB 3 a and a micro SD slot as well as an audio out and audio in port there's also a security lock feature at the back right-hand side of the laptop itself and with all that aside here we are now with a conclusion on the msi gs70 585 G with its max Q 2080 and also the 8750 h6 core from Intel and I gotta say straight away the price performance is definitely not here I mean if you're a desktop enthusiast like myself you're never really gonna get price performance out of a laptop but I must say what MSI have done with the form factor and also the way they've implemented the fans and the noise is actually quite impressive the included 144 Hertz IPS screen is also really good you get a webcam you get a nice keyboard with RGB bling that's good to type on the touchpad is pretty good however there are some sharp edges that I'd like to see fixed and I think at this price point where you're going to be spending around 2800 USD and in Australia 4,200 for a laptop like this I'd like to see MSI use their economies of scale and include something like a leather carrying pouch I think that would really set this thing aside just add those extra quality add-ons with the laptop when you sell it because all you get in the box is the adapter in the laptop itself like to see some extra goodies included at this price point the implementation of the NIC and also the onboard audio do leave a little bit to be desired to but other than that it's a solid laptop considering they're working with constraints of the max-q itself a 2080 max-q is pretty much similar to that of an RT X 2060 at least from the testing I've done here today and you may be thinking well it's got the laptop CPU that didn't really affect performance that much since the GPU itself was pegged near a hundred percent for all these benchmarks that I conducted here today and I guess that's about it for me today if you enjoyed this video then be sure to hit that like button also let us know in the comments section below how did I go with this laptop review I haven't reviewed a laptop for quite some time but I think I hit all the marks on the head if you're looking to buy one of these things and you're looking for those details I think I gave you the deets but speaking of more of the dates also before I get on out of here the software implementations really good the way that they've got the app running it's very lightweight gives you all the statistics and they read out accurately and also the keyboard software is very good too for controlling RGB and making your own macros so some pretty good things they've done here but there are some things that we could be upgrade as we've said before and with that set I'll catch you in another tech video very soon peace out for now bye you