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welcome back to tech yes City and this is the dark finally coming back to you guys on the AMD platforms with an overclocking tutorial now today I'm going to be going over a four point two gig overclock and a 4.4 gig overclock and this is for all the people on the FX 6300 or the FX 8320 s or 8350 s as well and first of all let's get on with it anyway so I'm going to be going over a lot of things but I'm going to be keeping it as simple as possible as well so the first two programs you're going to need I recommend getting is Ida 64 extreme and prime95 now Ida 64 you get you do get a it's a 30-day trial but that is honestly more than enough for finding a stable overclock and prime95 it's optional you actually don't need it but I always liked it because it it takes the temperatures higher than Ida 64 does however be careful with this some people don't recommend it on AMD platforms and then another optional program here is Heroes of Newerth which I find works great on both Intel and AMD for finding unstable overclocks really quickly and the good thing about this is the game won't crash the game won't crash I mean sorry the game only the game will crash not your whole Windows setup so anyway let's move on now put the download link of these three programs in the description below for you guys so feel free to check them out anyway let's restart the computer and let's go into BIOS now something too important to remember is that this is an MSI motherboard so if you've got in a Zeus motherboard a gigabyte motherboard and asrock motherboard there may be different names for things there may be different settings so as soon as your computer boots up you want to press Delete I also recommend having knowing how to reset your CMOS that's an important feature on this motherboard it does have a clear CMOS button so you can just turn off your computer hit that button and reset all your defaults back to normal if you come into a bad overclock so let's move on now so this is the motherboard I recommend putting it on standard that's just got all the options there and this is if you're on MSI now update to the latest BIOS if you haven't already and basically I want you to go into overclock so this is important and today we're not going to be a test we're not going to be touching CPU FSB frequency or we're not going to be touching RAM speeds because I don't think I think those two settings are for each other I honestly only found a performance difference when I overclocked the FSB speeds and it increased my RAM speeds so Ram speeds are pretty important for AMD and I mean I will quickly show you at the end of the tutorial what my custom Ram speeds are for this rig but it's pretty simple and it's not hard to do but anyway today we're going to be focusing on the adjust CPU ratio and we're going to be focusing on adjust the CPU Northbridge ratio and also the hyper thread link speed so these three settings here are important and they've also got three voltages that are relative to them this is the CPU voltage the CPU Northbridge voltage and the Northbridge voltage I'll also be talking about what settings to disable and what settings you can keep are on and what settings are optimal for gaming also I highly recommend that you have an aftermarket CPU cooler if you go to overclock and you also have a decent motherboard this is a mid-range motherboard it's the 990 FX GD 65 from MSI and actually if you're on another motherboard manufacturer and it's a mid-range or a high-end board you can pretty much copy my settings today and I'm pretty sure your overclock work and that's because I'll get onto that later that but mainly it's because the MS I don't have a V group function on this motherboard and that essentially is when the CPU is under load the voltage drops down and there's no function to accommodate that and up the voltage when that happens this motherboard doesn't feature that which is one negative one actual quite big one big negative with this motherboard anyway let's move on now so today we're going to be gift firstly we're going to be going for a 4.2 gig overclock and now you'll want to use your numpad and you are going to go to 4.2 here and then we're going to adjust now this is important so 4.2 is a nice overclock a lot of pretty sure that anyone on an FX 8320 will be able to obtain this overclock I haven't heard of someone not being able to obtain a 4.2 gig overclock on a decent motherboard with a decent CPU cooler this should be obtainable on anyone's rig let's look at the CPU Northbridge ratio now even though 2200 megahertz is fine when I was doing my testing I found that putting this to two thousand four hundred megahertz made a difference in games so especially Skyrim which was the most one of the most CPU intensive benchmarks I did so putting this 212 made a difference of three percent or two to three percent in frame rates so I recommend putting this 212 if you can if your overclocks unstable you may wish to dial this back down to 2200 megahertz but that's up to you I do recommend putting it to 2400 however CPU core control we can leave that alone that's if you want to disable cause manually you can do that Andy turbo core technology now I want to disable this because pretty much when my CPUs under load I want it going to 4.2 gigs and when it's not on load I want it clocking all the way down to fourteen hundred megahertz so you want to disable this and put in I'll show you the other features that you can put in later to accommodate for this DRAM frequency I put this to 1866 and I'll show you at the end of the video but if you want to overclock your ram I've got a ram overclocking tutorial it honestly Ram overclocking is pretty much identical on the Intel's and AMD s so I'll put my RAM overclocking tutorial in the link below as I've already to spend a lot of time doing Ram overclocking tutorials and it honestly takes a good 40 minutes which I keep away honestly quick and dirty if you've got XMP profiles you can just enable them enable your best profile there your higher speeds and that'll give you should give you a performance bump over the auto settings anyway let's move on now to DRAM timing I like to put that on anyway and I'll be overclocking my memory later at the end of the video just quickly showing you my settings but let's move on now to the hyper thread link speed this I found having this at 2600 was absolutely fine it doesn't go any higher anyway on this motherboard so you want to put this to 2600 putting it down to 2400 I actually didn't make a difference but I'd like to leave it as high as it can go so I will in control we don't have to touch that there settings that I think it's like 8-bit and 16-bit you'd have to bother touching them leaving them on auto is absolutely fine now CPU voltage this is the most important feature because every chip every single chip out there is going to behave differently every single chip is going to need a different optimum voltage to run out I mean some chips can run at lower voltage on the same clocks than other chips for instance you could have a chip that could run a 4.6 gig at only one point three eight volts you could be that lucky guy for me personally I found that my chip at four point two gigs runs at one point four volt however keep in mind with the V group on this CPU it does drop down to about one point three seven volts and I'll show you that later in the stability testing so having this a one point four five one point four volt isn't not much to worry about MSI on their motherboards actually have a limit I actually have a safe limit threshold so if you go over one point four five volt your computer just won't simply boot so keep that in mind I would say one point four five volt is also pretty much the safe limit for 24/7 overclocks you wouldn't really want to go over that anyway so it's not much of a disadvantage of having an MSI board but the Vedra p-- is that is one thing that does annoy me because honestly if your CPU can run at four point four gigs it and it takes one point four four volt under load then you won't be able to get that on this motherboard because it can't go up to one point four eight volt which I would be perfectly happy running with I am I'll talk about it later but I am lucky to have a motherboard that runs at 1.4 4.9 and V groups down to about 1.4 to volt at 4.4 so I'm lucky than my chip does just cut the limit at 4.4 but some people might not be as lucky I mean some people might be even luckier so this is all a silicon lottery and I'm spending a lot of time talking about this because it's important to note that every chip on this CPU voltage setting is going to run is going to need different CPU voltages so am I going to be better some are going to be worse however 4.2 gigs I imagine everyone should be able to just dial in the CPU voltage setting and they should be good to go let's talk about this CPU Northbridge voltage now honestly you can just put this to 1.2 and leave it that's pretty much for any overclock up to 4.2 gigs or up to 4.4 the putting this to 1.2 should be absolutely fine also this one here I like to put this to 1.15 volt as it runs pretty you know everything runs pretty cool my motherboard doesn't get hot at all and I like to give this is pretty much safe settings you don't have to worry about anything burning out or and just but you when you're over going 4.4 at least you'll know if you put these to these limits you'll know that they're not limiting you in any way so having this at one point two and one point one five is absolutely fine that's not a problem at all let's move now down to the extra features because it is important you've also got overclocking profiles here which will save after we've confirmed that our overclocks are stable but let's move down down to down to CPU features okay AMD cool and quiet we do want this enabled essentially when I was benchmarking I did disable it however for general usage you're going to want this enabled so when you basically when you're gaming your CPU ramped up when you're on the desktop maybe just browsing internet your CPU will ramp down in speeds which will save you power it'll save your CPU heat as well I won't be putting out as much heat so it's actually a good feature c1e this is mainly for I like to use this on the Intel's I don't like to use this on the AMD's so keep that in mind the SVM mode I disabled that I think it's a server feature same with the iommu mode core 6 c6 state if you want your computer to be able to hibernate that I recommend leaving this enabled so excuse the voices in the background someone's just yeah that'll probably happen a little bit throughout this tutorial but course c6 state we want this disabled and hpc mode we want this enabled this is AMD's pretty much HPC mode is AMD's version of c1e basically so this is the setting that will ramp down your CPU to 1 volt when it's not in use so it's actually really good and I recommend it cause c6 state you can have this again you have this enabled if you want your computer to hibernate or sleep I generally don't bother I don't if I'm not using my computer for long times I turn it off anyway so it's up to you guys but I disable it ok so now with those settings we are good to go we're ready to boot into Windows and start our stress testing you can save this if you want to but since it's not stable for me yet actually I will say that I will save it because if it crashes after say 5 or 10 minutes I can then come back to this and quickly load it up and then just tweak the CPU voltage a little bit so we'll go here we'll set the name and we'll call it 4.2 tests and then we'll save the overclocking profile to overclock and profile 1 okay so let's reboot this now and go into Windows and start stress testing that's what we're going to start doing now so let's let's get in let's get on with it so as you guys know with all my overclocking tutorials I like to do them uncut just to basically you know show you that these are legit settings and there working everything's working perfectly fine because I know and again I I know there's going to be people out there who are going to get frustrated and they're not going to be able to obtain a certain overclock but just when you take your time and honestly I recommend watching this whole tutorial and if you need help put a comment in the comment section below and I'll get back to you as soon as I can so now that we're in Windows we've seen and booted up absolutely fine if your computer does not boot up then you may need to give it more voltage or you may not have your CPU cooler adequately placed so anyway let's move on now to sensor so we want to go down to sensor here so we open i-264 up we go down a sensor and it will display your CPU this is the one I want you guys to focus on also keep in mind your motherboard as well the CPU call one I believe these are readings are faulty they're not actually right 90 as you see there went down it's going down to 12 degrees I'm telling you now the ambient temperatures in here are pretty much I think they're there somewhere from 15 to 20 degrees I don't have an ambient temperature checker so I can't tell you guys exactly what the ambient temperatures are in here but I definitely tell you that these these readings aren't correct I mean there's no way that's eight degrees and so this is the one you want to focus on 32 degrees and 24 degrees these two seem about accurate and you don't want to take it too much over that so anyway with that being said let's move on now we'll open up a thing called CPU Z so Ida has its own CPU Z and I find it's absolutely fine and then we want to open up the stress test as well the system stability test now you can use prime if you want to but some and as I said before some people say don't recommend it on AMD's I mean I found it fine it's a stability test if it can't run it then your computer's not stable right so anyway let's do this let's start it now and you can see here it's clocking up to 4.2 gigs you want to just leave all these settings ticked as well stress the CPU stress the floating-point units stress the case justice just a memory I mean you want to stress it all at the same time and and see here we're going up to use 37 degrees which I mean it's about what I mean it's if I had to guess what the exact ambient temperatures were in here I'd say I'd be about 18 degrees so at the moment we're running about 19 degrees over Delta which is absolutely fine I mean this overclock will be fine for the summer as well I'd have no problems running this overclock in the summer and also the elapsed time so we'll run this for about two minutes honestly I recommend running it for a good 10 minutes at least and then you can start moving into games preferably heroes in u.s. like I said before I recommend this game it'll quickly find an unstable overclock you may wish to render a video as well that's also another great way a real-world test to see if your CPU is actually 100% stable so with stress tests my main concern is just quickly testing if the overclock is near stable and testing that the temperatures don't go to high so this is my main two concerns when I do my initial stress tests also we can see here as I said to you guys before the Vedra on this motherboard is actually pretty weird and so even though I set in 1.4 volt you can see it's going down to one point three seven one point as in one point three six as well I mean there we go it's going down so the V group on this motherboard is a little bit weird I see why people sort of stay away from this motherboard but honestly it's a it was a good value board it was actually the only motherboard they had in stock I got the Azusa on the board but that unfortunately did not work properly so I had to change and I got this MSI motherboard and it works fine I mean for a 4.4 gig overclock it absolutely worked absolutely fine so here it is here so CPU is running pretty good I mean we're at 2 minutes we'll take it up to 4.4 now that if I was testing this 4.2 for myself I'd be opening up here as a new earth and then playing a few games and then maybe during a video that's what I'd be doing so but this I mean honestly this looks pretty good to go the max temperatures there are 40 degrees so not bad at all we can stop that now so yeah again I'd be trusting this here I'd be trusting this one I don't think this one's accurate maybe someone who's been a longtime guru and AMD CPUs might want to comment on this but I'd be trusting this CPU score over these scores just make sure that this apparently AMD recommends not exceeding around about 60 degrees Celsius so keep that in mind as well don't go over 60 degrees on these FX CPUs Intel's I mean they're all Intel's are pretty much good up to 90 degrees I think you can even take into a hundred degrees they're just different architectures so with the AMD you want to make sure you're not going over 60 degrees now that overclocked is pretty much confirmed we can restart our computer now if your computer crashes again if it doesn't boot or if it crashes then all you have to do is clear the CMOS so you can do that via two methods if you're but if your computer has a clear CMOS button you can hit that or you can use a C clear CMOS jumper on your motherboard it's up to you guys so there actually is two ways to do it there's a third way as well that's the last method you should use and that's just to take the power cord out of your power supply turn your computer on make sure the power is drained and then take the CMOS battery out as well that'll reset your CMOS as well so anyway let's move on now so we've done the 4.2 overclock okay so that I mean theoretically that's stable right I'm trying to save you guys a little bit of time so we can say okay overclocking profile one set nine four point two what's going on here four point two stable there we go so we've got four point two stable we can save that and then we can go and begin our next overclock so if we go here now we want to go for a four point four and I mean if you want to I mean the good thing is right if you're stable if you do this the first time around and you are completely stable you can maybe bump it down maybe to a three 1.38 because you ultimately want to find the lowest CPU voltage where your computer is stable because that's going to save you a bit of power it's going to save you a bit of heat and also it's going to give you if your overclock and give you the highest speeds so you can do what I've done here and you can if it's completely stable the first time around you can maybe bump it down to and if it's not stable bump it back up one and find your sweet spot for your CPU so this is what this guy is all about is finding the best voltage that your CPU can run out now sometimes as well this is the next overclock we're going for and now this is important to note at 4.4 gigs I believe I have heard I mean it's pretty rare but I have heard of some FX 83 20s and some FX 6300 s not being able to run at 4.2 gigs so you might want to go to full point maybe try 4.3 gig overclock but keep in mind that if you're an unlucky person and you lost the silicon lottery you may not be able to get to 4.4 like you can give it as much voltage as you can you go to 1.45 and it just your computer just simply doesn't work like it'll fail a stress test or it'll crash occasionally and that just means that your CPU just can't even though it can boot at those settings it ultimately just can't run 24/7 stable at 4.4 gigs and so that's when you can use the CPU FSB frequency to maybe tune out a 4.3 gig overclock or something like that that's up to you that's a little bit more advanced but today I just want to show you guys the basics on how to get that extra 10% 20% out of your processor especially on the FX 8320 which base clock is only 3.5 gig so as we see if we get up to 4.4 we're getting a significant increase in speeds anyway let's move on now so we're getting four point four gigs 22 ratio again keep these the same keep the Northbridge CPU Northbridge frequency at 2400 keep this at 13 so we're going to use the same settings we did with the 4.2 but all we're changing this time is pretty much the cpu ratio to 4.4 and we're giving it more CPU voltage that's all we are doing if I go to one point five one point four five my computer just won't boot that's MSI's hard limit and so keep that in mind I'm just showing you guys now anyone should be able to attain this four point four gig overclock if you're unlucky you may not be able to obtain this so you can copy feel free to copy my settings again we'll go down to the overclocking profiles and we'll save this as 4.4 tests so 4.4 tests and we'll save that and then we will exit and we will test this overclock out so that's a let's move on down to the stress testing this time around I will do prime95 as I'll show you guys that it does get a few degrees hotter on prime than it does on Ida system stability test so that's something important to keep in mind so yeah I mean I'm again 4.4 is a nice I think it's a sweet spot on the FX 8320 with mid-range boards maybe if you've got a high-end motherboard you may wish to go to 4.6 I hear 4.6 is what a lot of people run their FX 8350 s at so regardless you know you you guys I'm just teaching guys simple the simple ropes and you guys should be able to get at least something extra out of your CPUs on a stock cooler I mean that people ask me what can I get on a stock cooler I don't know I didn't like as soon as I got my FX 8320 I didn't even bother using the stock cooler because I just pretty much got this CPU for testing against the Intel so let's move on now so we're going to get again we're going to load up our CPU and we're going to see the vault we want to check out this CPU temperature here and you're probably wondering are Brian you know in your Intel overclocks use real temp and prime and yes that's because real temp only works on Intel's when I load it up I was surprised to learn that it didn't work on AMD rigs and like okay that's cool but anyway so we load up the stability test here we can load up cpuid and we'll just do two minutes of stress testing here again okay so let's see we see here that our computer is running fine after a little while it should I mean if we close that down it should clock down to one thing about this is it should clock down to fourteen hundred megahertz so the multiplier should go down to seven when the computers not load it up so we'll we'll test that out I just want to show ya there we go so you can see that when you're not winning a pewter is not in use it'll bump down to fourteen hundred megahertz and the multiplier will go down to seven that's when it's not when your computer's not doesn't have any load on it so that's a good feature you see there the voltage drops down to one volt as well which I recommend for if you using this for a long time if this is your main gaming rig anyway we'll go back to senses we will get the stability test rockin and let's start er up so let's go hit start and we shall see one hundred percent load oh yeah so again keep these four ticked you don't have to stress your hard drives or your GPU I'm not doing a max power consumption test here I'm just doing CPU overclocking so look this time around it should go a little bit higher I mean I imagine the CPU should go to around about 30 I'd say 40 degrees it should probably hit 40 degrees maybe 22 degree Delta that's what it hit when I mean it hit about a twenty degree Delta when I was on my strike X open air test bed and that was I think the cooling is a little bit better on that rig than it is on the zelmans III plus I only slight I mean not that much better it's not night and day but it's a little bit better anyway so we got here I'd say we've got it we're going to reach a delta of about 22 degrees if we did this for 10 minutes and may go up to 41 degrees and yeah so just keep that on keep yeah so be mindful of your motherboard and your CPU temps and make sure they don't go to high this being pretty good I mean this APU temp here being pretty good I would honestly just this would probably be good for summer as well this overclock here should be good for summer so anyway that's that guys we're going to wait another 40 seconds quickly and then we'll boot up prime95 and you can see here the video is going down as low as 1 point 4 volts so I think it usually sits around one point for 2 volt in games ok oh sorry it's dry in here yeah okay so we wait for two minutes and we'll stop that oh god okay I've got the plague so we'll stop that that was fine we'll start up Prime now and we'll run small FFTs this is our pretty much RAM not testing much so we don't need to test Ram we just basically want to test the CPU oh sorry terribly sorry about this cough but um we can see here that the Prime actually loads up the CPU even heavier than Ida does and so we can see here this V group is actually pretty damn bad in prime95 so this is me this may be why you want to run prime95 instead of actually instead of idle because it's a real intense CPU benchmark so as we can see here the temperatures what going down to 43 probably will go up to 44 degrees as well so that's something you want to be mindful of I honestly I do like to use prime even though piece so I've read that people don't recommend prime for a MDS I think it's absolutely fine I actually recommend it to find out what that max CPU temp is going to go to so see here 44 degrees it's it's good to go so yeah I mean my CPU is pretty good at this setting so would I maybe I'd try in the settings to tone it down a little bit see what my CPU optimally can run 4.4 gig out but that would be for me to test you guys as well you can find that out and test it but I'll quickly show you guys now also I'll quickly show you guys now my ram overclocks as well so and anything that I may have missed I will talk about it quickly so if you guys have any questions as well again ask me and I'll reply as soon as I can and you know if I if I don't see your comment make sure you send me a PM and I'll help you out as well so sorry about my voices well it's dry in here and I'm still I've got a bit of hay fever as well oh god I missed a hit I miss the del key God will restart that one so anyway let's do this in camera so this is on an SSD at the moment as well the computer's boot boots up really quickly on if you don't have an SSD I do recommend getting one so sorry my computer oh my dears a lot actually overheated before I could before I could actually get in to show you guys the RAM speeds so that being I didn't even notice like I did everything and then later what my camera turned off so as you can see I've already dial it all in but I will show you what it's like on default so here we go default 1333 now that honestly for an AMD with the mid to mid-range GPU I would honestly be put special like a GTX 670 I'd be pushing this to 1866 because in some cpu-bound games I've found that if you tune your ram especially as opposed to auto you can pick up almost like even in Skyrim you can pick up almost a 10% fps increase that's what I found with I found that out in the past when I was actually testing Ram speed stock versus even just XMP profiles so it's important to get your X and P profiles in even if you don't know how to overclock memory but I'll quickly show you guys what my memory speed this is a different memory to what I'm actually using in my main rig and what I did my testing on so this Ram will behave a little bit differently to my main ram ultimately though a minutes it's standard I think the stuffs a little bit worse too so I mean I've got the timings in here to t90 10 to 90 and I like to have the tier ass as I've tested in the past I like to have the TRS relaxed a little bit the sum of all these three plus one or two seems to be the best setting for the tier ass now you guys are welcome to copy my ramp settings like please by all means if you want to have a try at overclocking ramp you can copy my settings here and however I will point out though with DRAM voltage so this is usually 1.5 volt I do recommend not going over one point six five volts so honestly keep it safe don't go over that even one point six volt around about one point six volt I don't recommend going over especially in summer it's just one more component that may fail if your RAM gets I've heard of people frame their RAM at one point seven volts so just be mindful of that honestly one point six volt should be good though should be safe definitely should be a safe level for any ddr3 memory so again that's you guys welcome to try mine ddr3 settings and I mean this stuff that I'm using in this rig is actually not that good it's got no heat sinks at all it's like even the XMP profile here is like sixteen hundred eleven eleven twenty eight which is pretty much the worst Ram you can get so this stuff here I mean the fact that it goes to ddr3 at you know two nine ten nine thirty you guys should be able to copy those settings and the voltages and your RAM should work if it doesn't then maybe give it a little bit more voltage or maybe just put it back to 1600 and give 1600 ago but you definitely don't want it on 1333 that's not that good in my opinion so anyway we'll give this a whirl we'll save this we'll save this in overclocking profiles as our final whatever we can set name for it four point four gigs final sweet sweet sweet OC and we can save that and we can then jump into Windows and we are good to go so yeah I'm going to close out this video by saying if you does have any questions at all about this CPU overclocking tutorial then please leave a comment in the comment section below if I don't get back to you on its urgent then send me a PM as well and I'll get back to you as well so yeah definitely ok this uh yeah I think this Ram isn't even stable at one point six volt ok so we're gonna I'm glad you guys could see this because pretty much you just what I do if something like this happens I just hold my power button down I then what I'll do now is I'll then hit my clear CMOS button at the back turn it back on and the computer should work absolutely fine I mean so yeah there we go make sure we hit that Delete key I'm glad I'm actually glad you guys could see this um it just what happens is is that yeah it doesn't the RAM obviously the RAM here wasn't stable at one point six volt which was surprising so we can put all our CPU will put our CPU ratio back to I mean all we can just this is the good thing about overclocking profiles right you can just load your overclocking profile we had it here oh sorry there's that nasty plague coming back again let me give it a bit more voltage I mean maybe one point six one volt give it a little bit extra voltage and just make sure that I'm going to make sure that XMP was disabled as well ok yep disabled okay so let's try this now I mean it should work ok save configuration we're given the RAM a little bit more voltage and hopefully it runs might have to relax the timings a little bit too but not there it is so the RAM obviously it wanted a little bit more voltage than 1.6 yeah start Windows normally it wanted a little bit more voltage than 1.6 and I gave it that and it was all good to go so there we go that's now that's that's my red guy so that's stable at one point four point four gigs and so yeah if you have any questions please leave a comment in the comment section below and I really look forward to your feedback if you enjoyed this video and if it helped you get some extra speeds out of your am deed and please give it a thumbs up and if you haven't really subscribed attack your city and I'll be coming back to you guys with some more tech video quality isn't the best I'm using my cam made my DSLR mirrorless DSLR and I'm pretty much recording just you know from the desk with the camera facing the TV so I mean if I could get a HDMI capture card with an output input I would get one but you know it's like two hundred dollars and I really I don't do many tutorials like this usually most much tutorials are on the desktop where I can use Camtasia or I can use shadowplay you know so for games so yeah these are sort of like I don't do a lot of these over going tutorials and so I can't justify you know I'm a small tech channel I don't have a lot of money I can't really justify spending $200 on a HDMI capture card just for a little bit of better video quality on some my over crunchy tours but again I apologize for the video quality not being as good as some other tutorials out there but I hope the content was good and that's the main thing I want to keep giving you guys at tech yes City anyway I yea want to hear your feedback and peace out for now bye