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AMD Threadripper X399 Vs X299 i9 Intel Line up | Ethereum Sells out RX 580 and 570 Cards | TTL #029

2017-06-04
welcome back to episode 29 of the tech lounge I'm just back from Taiwan just back yeah joined by Kevin how you doing man and then great Brian how are you bro yeah I mean I've been doing better but I'm coming off a real big week man it's been crazy a lot of you guys in the comments know what has been going on and yeah it's just been work no sleep and free drinks through Computex all the time to say I got wasted was an understatement so I think I think actually put on like a 3 or 4 kilos while I was there just like on just yeah that's why I went to the gym last night I go back first thing was like not going to the gym burning this crap off and then getting back into it so yeah I bet you man listen go on I just been holding down the fort here man and keep an eye on all the company tax coverage and reading everything else about all the fun stuff you and Steve got to check out over there but um looks pretty good man do you have a good time at Computex was it as good as you thought it'd be yeah was it was really crazy like those are my surprise it wasn't much gaming there like it was really a just a technology show and there's actually a lot of networking and stuff so I'm sure Wendell would had a fantastic time there like there was actually a lot of arm there's a lot of alcohol enthusiast consumer products there's also a lot of business products there too like it was it was really insane there was just so much business products yeah I was just like wow there was just too many I didn't even get time to check out everything that I'd want to check out people will like you know where's the X 399 staff and I didn't even get time to cover the other booths which Emma cycle said they were the sponsors so I had to cover them and then of course cover some of the other places that were close to the channel but then other than that I just yet had no time whatsoever I was meant to go to the gigabyte booth and do a video for them and I just didn't get time I was like wow so yeah in the end I just yeah it was it was crazy I learned a lot though from this Computex definitely learned a lot Steve was the same we were just like on you know 24 adrenaline rush just 24/7 adrenaline just like yeah we gotta get these videos I'm gonna do this because I gonna do yeah I know he's telling me you guys to go harder apparently yeah when course you know you got to go hard man go hard to go home so I did both yeah I heard about that as well with you at nighttime yes I did well I didn't get time to check out the X 3 9 9 stuff properly but of course we got the roundup today so we're going to be discussing X 3 9 9 versus X 2 9 9 we can weigh in our thoughts and you have you have you been reading up a lot about it yeah yeah so I've been really saying as I made - like I made one video of Intel a 9 and then I made sort of an updated until I 9 like opinion video and then talked about thread Ripper and and all that as well and yeah it's a big thing everybody's talking about right now especially after Linus put out his video yesterday I believe it came out that that just totally blew the argument wide open and he really um yeah he brought up really good point so pretty much agreed with everything - said in his video I've checked out anyone's videos man I've do it so what's the verdict here what's what's the what's the main train of thought that people are going with with his eye 9 versus thread Ripper thing so it's just Syrian or not yeah it just seems like basically the gist that like the too long didn't watch a blindnesses video said he basically said like he didn't understand what Intel was doing this the KB like X ones which is going to be that little I 5 670 640 X and the I 777 40 X but they make no sense why they exist because there is still only supporting they only support dual channel memory and they're going to be going on the X 299 motherboard idiot they don't fill any gap aside from having slightly higher clock speeds and slightly higher T DPS this is no place to them and I talked to Steve from hardware box the other day before I made my videos like do you know where it's coming in because I thought maybe Steve knew something I didn't he's like I have no idea I do well why any of this okay so of course with that one it is useless like it is useless for the average consumer I was speaking to some extreme overclockers and they said apparently it will DS two will overclock better again it's for the average person I don't even know why these two CPUs exist I'm with on I'm on that same train of thought I thought you would have got more PCIe lanes at the very least especially if you want to jump on next to 99 board No so just get sixteen completely agree there I don't even see the point of these tips to CPUs yeah and the price as well it goes up is that's the other thing and so it's just but the thing is the motherboard what Linus was saying that he talked to some people behind the scenes apparently from different grab companies and they were saying that a lot of the board partners aren't even going to support key be like X so you go by your X $2.99 and probably only one out of five will actually support it because they just don't even want to bother you know having to make the motherboard so that these dual channel CPUs can work with it it's a bizarre thing so you'll probably find a get a glance and you're enough to buy one and they won't be able to get a motherboard for it although have limited choices so what you're trying to tell me is that it's not even interesting yeah man even though I don't know how this even start like it's like tuna to me I didn't even say that much i but yeah it's not interesting this time but that's that's the mean that's the main thing is that I don't know why this is I don't know why there's an i5 CPU going on the X 299 like to me it was always the extreme platform was always all the bells and whistles on the CPUs in the motherboards all the stuff you wanted they just would throw everything at it and you would pay these huge prices because it was all the bells and whistles that's what people wanted a big expensive cpu big expensive motherboard and then now it seems like like what's going on why is there an i-5 on this why are many of the I nines trimmed down as well um compared to they broad well EU counterparts it's like what happened yeah I mean I've had some discussions about this well I don't know what they're really doing especially with the pricing I mean if they want to be competitive against AMD they're the only thing that they have they would have going for them would be the overclocks how well does it overclock and no one knows that yet how well is the six core going to overclock and even then I think it should be 350 bucks or lower that's what means they're like Steve and I we will talk about this and we saw at 390 it's kind of not that compelling I mean you still have to pay I'm assuming you surf by your own cooler you're still going to have to go out and buy the expensive X 299 boards so that's going to add to the prices when you can go get a a call from Andy or a six girlfriendy and put it on a be thrifty you know and save some money yeah argument here for values just not here like I don't stand on one thing that is interesting about it take your term that give is the level two cache it's it's doubled it was a double or quadruple though someone was telling me it was double is it increased quite but that's still set the fact that the l3 cache has almost been haft from Broadway Lee to scale like X so so um it's a significant cut down than the l3 but an increase in the l2 okay so that'll be that'll be a interesting to see how that plays out in real-world benchmarks but I don't know what they're doing with the eight core this is the one that the price was pretty good I was liking the $600 price tag until I saw the PCIe leans someone who's getting an 8 core 16 threaded CPU would want more PCIe lanes especially on X 299 especially for $600 on a CPU if I'm spending 600 bucks on a CPU I want like at least 40 PCIe lanes because then you know I want to put a capture card on there graphics card and dot 2 nvme possibly a tank gigabit ethernet PCIe card so you just you kind of there's going to be a compromise there yeah I mean maybe they were looking at what ricin was because remember you know rosin sevens 24 so maybe they're thinking out 28 that's still for more than like a 1700 for example use on X 370 so they thought maybe that would be okay but the problem is is that if you're an eight-core like I got the 69 hundred K for me I've got 40 on Broadway Li and then to upgrade to the equivalent I nine so to get the next stake or if I just wanted to get the newer a core I would then be dropping from 40 to 28 which is pretty the prices dropped as well but but at the same time that's a pretty considerable drop there so I'm not 100% sure what the idea was with these it seems like they're very the other thing with the KB like ik CPUs is they won't have the integrated graphics on board which most enthusiasts don't care about anyway but there's a particular technology I forgot what it was of those think about earlier that Intel that requires the integrated GPU to run but it won't be the other thing is is that to run raid I think you would need to use Intel SSDs with skylake X I believe that was something I heard along those lines so it seems like Intel's really consolidating and there's just something going on oxidants they're QuickSync yeah I think that might have been it so okay um there's there's just something that's I don't know what it is with Intel right now um at the very top that is because I know people at Intel and they're all very nice but at the very top this seems like there's someone that they're just this is a really bad corporate strategy I don't know why they've done it this way but bringing high fives to this line up the cable akx I don't know why they exist these other ones ever been the 12 core and app are just being thrown in there at the last minute and they're saying now they will not come out until the very end of this year guys so if you're thinking it will be up to you that 818 course sometime soon you're going to be waiting for a while it's only going to be up to the teen core that will be coming out soon and then you'll have to wait for all these other ones to come out and the price tags on them had just exorbitant anyway so though it's those a crazy thing that I saw is that they're now releasing an 18 core apparently that's overclockable so that's two thousand dollars I mean look that's much better than what they had going on with their ten core last year without charging $1700 for it but at least you're getting 18 the Sun but still it's a little bit too late or too little too late now I mean if they're only doing this because AMD has thread Ripper coming out which is going to have a lot of calls a lot of threads for a relatively cheap price and the other thing that I don't like about this lineup I really dislike is that they're using thermal base so gamers Nexus did a video yeah with the borer and man they deleted one of these chips and it's got thermal paste on it's like come on this is meant to be the enthusiasts lineup of chips and your yeah I don't even know what to say with this it's just it's pretty stupid and I mean I don't know what the reasons are like people peddle these excuses about all the this and that no the main reason is money they're doing it to save money that is the real reason that Intel is putting paste on the chips now that would be the main read yes yeah I would agree that they excuse this saying is the solder can crack of the time but I'm I've never been aware from everyone I've ever talked to I've never ever heard about that happening before and with anything so that could be something that happens but it does seem like a big downgrade and once again it is you're paying these high prices you shouldn't have to deal it the i9 range like you're paying so much money for these CPUs it should just have everything on it all the PCI lanes everything all the bells and whistles that's what it should be and that just seems like Intel's missing the point now of their own high-end line but even then doesn't doesn't at the soldiering argument - isn't that really only for extreme overclockers who are going from hot to cold rot lately yeah and that's what I heard it doesn't even affect the average person and the average person could easily use average person could easily use the soul during over the deal eating so really kind of there's a few lot of disappointing things coming out X 299 are the only thing that I'm looking to see is how well it over clocks that's the only thing and that'll be interesting yeah and then we've got that will be dude that'll be very interesting dude like a there we go Casa someone means the whole a self-aware I am now about saying that word someone made this man okay the X 3 9 9 ok so we got the X 3 9 on board so it they were coming out at Computex this year I unfortunately didn't really get a chance to cover them properly but now we can see in what's hitting the shelves essentially this is your X 299 competitor you've got 8 slots DIMM slots you've got quad-channel memory and of course you've got the CPUs hitting hard here which will be shocked it yeah it's a massive socket but to give a mention reticle that's to give Andy credit they are doing they are you allowing 64 PCIe lanes which is huge yeah that is so much expandability for people who can utilize that of course the I've got my eyes on the 12 core apparently the 16 quart 32 threaded CPU is rumored to be coming in it was 850 dollars that's the non axia that'll be the nanak so that'll be 850 and by contrast the eye 9/16 core will be 1700 US dollars so that's a huge saving that is really good I had that is really good for people who can utilize those extra cores and threads you're going to be absolutely in heaven and 850 bucks one thing that I really want to see out of this of course for me like I'm talking about this from you know enthusiast lineup and just what's practical for everyone I think over eight cores 16 threads is kind of overkill for anything really I'd rather get the better IPC and overclock of course there are people out there that will utilize those extra cores and threads one thing that I am really curious to see though is this tank or 20 thread with the quad channel memory support if we say drop that down to 8 cores 16 threads and then we test quad Channel versus dual channel on the Rison platform and then we test it in games I want to see like kind of like the gains what can we had from doing that that's one thing that I'm really curious about yeah now I think it'll be quite good I would imagine the pricing on thread report from what we can tell from that in the room is it would be 850 for that non 816 core I'd imagine it'd probably just straight up thousand for the the top one the ex model 16 Thor and then you'll see yeah you'll see it's sort of going the interesting thing to me is the 12 cores are there's going to be three of them so in all the other ones you'll have the and non x and x models of each core count but the 12 cores is going to have a non X and 2x models one with slightly higher clock speeds so that will be quite cool to see but the the speeds I wouldn't imagine would be any different from risin 7 you'll probably get I mean even in saying that though if you could get 4 gigahertz on all 16 cores that is going to be such a grunty CPU like it's ridiculous especially for 850 dollars that's going to be just fine of course the I 9s will probably have the advantage with single core speeds or two core speeds as until a saying with turbo boost max 3.0 going up to three power four point five gigahertz so that will be good too but um we'll just have to see when it comes speed wise a thread Ripper I think will have a pretty good idea already you'll probably be c4 gigahertz or like three point nine out of them and but the I 9s that will be hopefully they will go quite a bit higher and that's probably the only thing to me anyways that's really keeping my interest with the i9 to that someone who runs broad well II and I've really enjoyed my eight core Intel CPU but these I'm actively thinking now that I'll switch to AMD and with that actively thing all passively is active not passively actively its it's a consistent thing on my mind no but because because to go if I want to upgrade from what I have now I have to go to the ten core but um you know just to get four extra lanes and slightly higher clock speeds and two extra cores and it just seems like I would I would have just hoped for more in an upgrade I'm not actually sure that it would be that tremendous of an upgrade of course we'll know once we start testing them soon but that the thread refers to me just seemed like such a bitter um so much better to run extra lanes the lower price lower actually things low price of course we're going to see how the cloud wallet clocks as well but my pick here would be the 1956 that's just yeah that's rockin man twelve course twenty four threads it assuming you get those extra PCIe lanes that we do in all the thread rippers apparently all that will be 64 not just the sixteen cord from what I've heard it'll be 64 on the whole line which is how it should be on Broadway Lee was the same except for the sixty eight hundred K but you got forty on the whole line and on the other three but this is just Intel's like step up thing is like really guys I'm going with the 1956 here I think that's my choice just by looking at the numbers of course looking at how well the r5 1600 did I've got a back to twelve core 24 thread here to be the best out of the whole lineup I just think it'll utilize the extra cash just like the r5 1600 has the same or similar amount doesn't it does have the same amount of cash as the eight course doesn't it so hopefully they're bringing that to the 1956 as well with the 12 cores and 24 threads and if so that's going to be my pick hopefully I can I mean I might even upgrade my workstation to the 1956 yeah I mean the the other thing is which is a good question for me to ask you is how old is because you're quite a fan of the Zeon's how did the i9 range now when you think of Intel's these two lines of CPUs the I nines and the Zeon's doesn't it seem quite weird now isn't there like quite a overlap or at least a little bit of overlap right what's the is all these AI nines will be as eons oh I'm gonna be straight-up honest with you man I'm only a fan of used as eons I was a fan of I was a fan of new zealand's with the 1231 v3 until they like until they realized what people were doing are they're getting a a threaded CPU on a b85 motherboard let's let's completely kill this market until identified it and they just killed the market so I'm not a fan of new zealand's anymore I mean of course businesses just write that off on tax they just get whatever they need in terms of power requirements of course are you going to have the ECC memory support on X 299 that's a big thing for businesses what what are they going to do with the New Zealand lineup as well I haven't really looked at any figures there of course they're not really making the xeon lineup inferior unless these chips under clock and under vault extremely well so it means to be seen really but that's my favorite latter of course it could kill value for Z on the shore like if if people are businesses are going out and buying whatever twenty-something cores eons for $8,000 or how many of what's there max call range and then they can just get double the clocks on these for $2000 then of course that's a compelling argument they killing their own Z online sure yeah I don't know oh who knows yeah it's a it's an interesting situation I mean it's really good at the end of the day it's really good that this is competition here because obviously prices are coming down and stuff but um yeah I think Intel very much rushed to say because they didn't want to be I don't know like emasculated by the fact that AMD had a higher I had a higher core counts CPU than them so I'm not sure why they all of a sudden this rush out and say they're going to make this 18 core and that's great and all but the fact that it's going to cost $2,000 I mean who's going to be able to justify that oh it's got two extra cores and probably a higher clock speed than my 16 core thread Ripper I better go out and spend like $1,000 thousand US dollars more on it the one thing that people not many people are talking about and this is a very good point though is that the X 299 boards I believe will probably end up being cheaper on average then X 399 because that socket is so huge the X 399 a think will be pretty expensive if we're going to cost a lot of money so it'll be a harder I think not a harder sell but it will be interesting to see at the time because you have to add in the motherboard price as well to when you buy the CPU so if there's there is actually quite a big discrepancy between 299 and 399 and it'll yeah I think that'll be something that plays in a little bit but right now both of them are looking very high-end in terms of the Mulla boards themselves Jamie go through a few motherboards we got the gigabyte X 399 up here and yeah you're right that socket is just absolutely massive that is really big of course 4000 pins like well you know like wool we got here the X 299 motherboards as well watch did you check out any other 2x2 nights MSI didn't have the X 3 9 on boards on there booth as well as kind of like one okay did you check out any of the X 2 9 9 boards what was your favorite there oh yeah look so and I talked to a few people about them I the one that's looking to me that I like is the gigabyte gaming k7 I like that one or gaming 7 I think it's called X 299 that looks quite cool some of the MSI ones look great yeah I think that they're looking very good the motherboards on both sides to 99 and 399 are all looking awesome looks like they're putting on a lot of cool stuff on them I'm interested to see now the fact that a lot of them are putting on like MDOT two coolers and stuff like these are kind of heat sinks and stuff you put on them yeah because in the past when people have tested them usually not usually but sometimes they would actually make the make it worse you know pick them right order so interesting that that's kind of one thing that a lot of them have been going for there seems to be RGB everywhere on all of them as well yeah that's true that is it for the X $2.99 the ITA I really liked what else yeah difference that's funny is like how I did that thing all straight from the get-go as rock released an ITX board this time that is really cool and I really want to get my hands on one of these that was the for me that was a real killer point there from as rock they just released the night I TX version from there showing a 90 X version from the get-go and look at the m dot to support on that as well like yes that's great I believe it can support up to 3 m2 SSD yeah there it is there so that's that's a win for me I mean as Rock nailed it with a 90 X board there so uses so dim of course because if it's size constraints but looks like you still be able to get quad channel memory out of that with yeah yeah that's I mean that would be one to do a build with like that would be really cool to do a build with this thing imagine getting in like a really small probably 1080 and it is one of these with the eight core something you'd have like a mobile powerhouse like absolutely oh yeah many every session yeah yeah take that when you go to check events this stuff and the other random videos like crazy well that's well yeah man that might my swap laptop that held me back so much I was like damn I was ready to chuck it out the window oh man it would have got a real durability test then I was just prostrating to do because I was I'm I was editing videos I just get like red screens and stuff because it was just running out of pay I didn't have enough horsepower at all so yeah Steve had his new MSI laptop he was just loving it yeah and I was just jealous the whole time so damn I could run out run out the hotel and just sees things got your laptop and then start editing some videos pretty good we should we shed a lot of stuff like he brought a lot of good lighting as well because I live stream twice on the channel I don't know what I would have done without his lights and then I'm I brought my condenser mic and my compressor over and like he tried using his shotgun mic and it just echoed it sounded terrible so I was like dude use mine he's like okay and he was blown away by how good this little combo sounds man he didn't realize that for like literally under $100 you can get something that just gives out such good audio so he was really shocked he was like oh I got to get one of those tell us the parts so yes Steve's lights look really good when I was watching your stream with was Steve um my girlfriend saw and she was like wow Brian looks so young like oh hey thanks man is like oh what happened to Brian man you just know that alcohol Muslim Thomas no I just said to her as like oh you know it's just Steve's lights make him look make him look pretty young cuz I mean Brian you know like you you're not so much a young man I mean what do you yield 39 yes I know I'm 10 is 40 pretty soon man some get knocking you know she's a 10:50 bro that's a you and your age jokes man yeah you love them right my eyes I don't know what is with you boys you complain about like neck aches and stuff like that and Steve was complaining that his feet were sore and stuff I'm just like the whole trip I'm just like dude oh you guys are gotta get some magnesium or something into your diet or something to help out the bones and the uh what some fish oil or some just get something there to help out the rhythm you know regulate this stuff cuz I was just on fire man terms of like no back aches and stuff like that you know you did see me probably in one of the videos like leaning over a little bit because like my liver was just that sore what yeah let's do this interview but our besides Allison's doing it right you know ya know they look good man now so Steve's lights are armed I'm really cool I enjoy that this dream you did with him as well that that was really fun to watch but um yeah with these with these motherboards I would really love to check out the asrock ones um there would be quite cool so but both will be expensive but one should be surprised by that obviously at the these are aimed and enthusiasts so they're going to be expensive so don't expect them to be cheap but um yeah I think there's going to be a lot of competition there I think a lot of people are going to really like it the the extreme nine-nine's especially would be very interesting to see the coolers that people end up putting on them water blocks and stuff will be Wow um yeah it's good IMSI offering the EK water blocks with their so that'll be pretty cool yeah is going to be crazy but that lots of ways in the money yeah he was both of them are going to be really hot they're going to have high tea DPS probably and they're going to be run hot these are going to be big CPUs in terms of just size and but and of course the UI nines are going to have a thermal interface material instead of being soldered down from what we know so far all the thread reports will be soldered down just like right all the other rise of the CPU so that's good that Andy's doing that it just seems like right now AMD is listening it's like Lisa is actually listening to what sort of the enthusiasts want and what the consumers want and it seems like Intel I just not really are they they're just kind of putting things out there and just thinking it exactly will they stick okay they have a but they haven't listened for years dude that's the thing that you haven't listened for years and now it's starting to bite them in the ass so it would go figure anyway so the next up here we've got the AMD cryptocurrency so f thorium f3m I don't even know how to pronounce it I think they think do you see CF Tech spelt it wrong - um yeah I mean I didn't hear about this currency until like now the AMD graphics cards the rx even the rx 570s are just completely sold out they're all sold out RX v EDS are sold out everyone's buying up these graphics cards and mining f3m FS theorem a theorem that sounds about right a theorem so they're mining this new currency apparently it's anti assic I haven't really delved into how and why I don't understand this stuff the prices are going up the GPUs are being used to mine death room f3m I give up I'm just going to call Ethel they're using it to mine Ethel and apparently ether ether ether ether my using it something a bit different yeah they're using it to mine ether and the prices are going up it's now I think two hundred and forty dollars for one Ethel that's insane and apparently bitcoins like three thousand dollars a coin now so currencies crypto currencies are just going through the roof in 2017 so I guess a lot of people are saying that they're like I want some of this pie and it's buying all these things out and starting out mining farms again so it's back in fashion and that's great for AMD if they can sell yes really yes I mean they should give vaguer out there ASAP regardless like if people are buying up all these cards for mining and you just need to release Vega even if it is kind of like early enjo material at the moment just get it out there and just get the sales come on ad take care of yourself they put the frontier Edition Vega GPU that that's going to be coming out soon um and so they're loosely got something but yeah it just seems like it's you know we got to wait another two months now and that's not for a bigot to be released although it may be released in two months time but all they've said is that it will be announced in two months time so it could be even longer a lot of people are saying we probably won't see vaguer until the end of the year like q4 or something so yeah I'm yeah they really need to it's just taking too long pretty much NVIDIA will go an entire lifecycle the thousand series will do its whole lifespan pretty much unopposed on the high end yes yeah that's one thing that's really annoying about it like I was really hoping for Computex to be like a huge launch of a vaguer and a lot of other people were - I was really disagree with that like I was like damn man like okay we're delaying it again oh and I thought I was like going to be like me and Steve I thought we were going to be like the only tech channels that missed out on the initial launch because we had we had to attend the msi booth day one but apparently wasn't just asked there's a lot of other tech tubers there at the booth I met Dimitri and evil at the booth oh yeah no I mean they're really cool guys yeah they're really cool and I met them at the msi booth and then i think jay was there and all I didn't see Paul's how about heard he was there and then Wendell was there there's so many people there it's like well everyone else is missing out on the AMD announcement I guess it's not that important and it wasn't so I was kind of a you know so spit I was really disappointed I was at Vega coming into this whole event like my biggest thing that I was looking forward to was vague or mmm because I you know I as much as we talk about thread Ripper in the i9 series again anything for me anything over a cause is really not that relevant especially for gaming at the moment especially in gaming so but yet that here it is aimed a just release Vega I get it out there people are just snapping them up for ether so ether em yeah that's a good point you series as well the fact that these these high core count CPUs if you're just someone that's going to be playing games and you shouldn't even be looking right now anyways maybe in the future games will be able to utilize this amount of cause but for right now um maybe the six core I suppose if you really want that would be okay or you know potentially that a core but beyond that um you don't really need to be looking at these four if you're just going to be doing gaming now for people like myself and Brian and other tech youtubers who need the gaming performance well not so much the gaming performance but the productivity performance for rendering stuff like that then these make a lot more sense but even then there's always going to be that value for money one where you want to go for that gives you that nice amount of performance for the right price and on the i9 so far it looks like it'll be that 10 core and with the thread rippers as Brian was saying earlier it looks like that lowest 12 core thread Ripper once we find out the price for it that'll be the probably the good one to go for on that that'll probably be really good very cool one thing I might yeah my cell on my AMD cards on eBay might be a good time huh yeah get on that I can't do for them yeah get some new camera gear man I'm dying for some camera upgrades especially after copy Tex I saw what other people had and my jaw just dropped am like man I wish I had you know Shaq would record some videos with that's kind of stuff so yeah yeah it says my main goal is to get some camera upgrades for the channel make the content just that next level now so yeah hey guys let us know let us know what you think do you think I do Evan yeah did you have a nice flight back bro was that okay I did man I spoke to and ov I spoke to an overclocker our case model and overclocked so I was really cool we spoke the whole way home so I'm going to be probably dudes to work with some of this like yeah the whole scene was just so cool man like some of the some of the modding scene it was just so cool to get along with those guys man that's so down to earth so yeah Computex was amazing absolutely amazing so I've got like a hangover from not being there so it was just really cool atmosphere everyone was into tech everyone you know the nightlife was great too man Wow Taipei the nightlife was really good too yeah I heard Steve told me about your exploits ah we'll just keep that off the channel bruh yeah yeah I know I know you should have dragged him out with you man he was like dude I tried to man I was like dude we got to come out Steve you got to come Ali it's not just for the partying and the free drinks and the free amazing food and the free everything but it's for arm networking as well man the amount of money I met the project manager at Microsoft I walked at home you know like this is just you know some random YouTube scrub walking home the project manager at Microsoft so I was really cool man just like really cool experiences the whole like trip was just amazing um it was just really cool like they're just so happy man like that was just an awesome trip something I needed to so yeah that's good an asset in the chat if people had any questions for us yes the short shows I forget sir yeah just just thought we'd go through a few ones if people think if you guys have any questions just let us know right now so in a stir at GTX 1063 gigabyte versus rx 570 that's how to say I would say depends on watch monitor around what do we have gtx 1010 63 gig versus RX 570 i'm guessing is meaning out yeah but you won't get it like now of those prices the 570s yeah they don't be sold out yeah like you have to go with a 1060 now I mean if you can pick up if you can pick up like if you can pick up either of them for cheap but get whichever ones cheaper I think that's the verdict that I think Steve and I both discuss this behind the scenes or even discussed it on the patreon live we did a patreon live and actually we went through this for like 20 minutes I think just talking about both our views and the end of the day it was like yeah just get whichever one is cheaper where you live because there's so similar performance of course if you can utilize free sync and that is a massive selling point for you then go with that but a lot of the people I spoke to everyone I spoke to doesn't use it no one uses gee single free sync a lot other guys like it was like all my friends were competitive gamers we'd like to at least game the best we can so we all turn that off all the syncing technologies so just depends on it depends different strokes for different folks but yeah my advice would just grab whatever one's cheaper they're both really good cuz yeah there are people put in brackets warped her home put in brackets networking with a winky face to networking with the winky face bro you got to get in there so yeah yeah look at some of those comments man that would that people knew what was going on people knew what was going on with the yes man again type a yeah I definitely knew what was going on but um yeah son said I have two times 783 gigabytes in play 1440p all the time where you need six goats on well I guess you say will you need six gigabytes on a 1064 1080p gaming generally you probably can't get away with it but depending on the type of game you might need to UM change some of the settings generally you want four for sort of four gigabytes of vram so kinda like a good minimum I like to think even at 1080p gaming once you go beyond you know eyes we see a thing about 1440p which is that going but beyond that yeah you do want a little bit more yeah he was saying 1440 okay I would say six gigs would be plenty skeevy fine yeah that's plenty like it depends on the game even if you even if you run into problems just drop some of the settings I mean some of the settings just kill the vram so just yeah they drop it a notch that's what that's my always been my approach just look at the game set it up to what hardware you have so and always get the best experience I mean for me ultra like I've said this before ultras always been a waste for me it's always I've never really gained any visual benefit out of it except my all my hardware's just been taxed like like it's like going to a country with ridiculous tax rates but that little bit better standard of living just a little bit better do you want to sell it yeah are you willing to sacrifice that that's a question yeah does self so yeah we might get out might get on out of here I've got to test all those use parts that I brought back I'm actually into a video testing all the use parts that I brought back I've also got to build with a overwatch youtuber as well that's coming to the channel there's a popular overwatch youtuber and she needs me she's ours she lives on the Gold Coast and let's go yeah and she wants me to build her a well she's got all the parts sponsored now so she arm I'm gonna go build the computer over to overclocker tuna everything it'll be the next PC house-call episode so and then whatever she wants to do on her channels hurt her biz sir yeah yeah no that's that's cool man dad what was the best thing you bought that I use part what was the thing you're most excited Steve Phenom the six hi here yeah whoo I wanted to do that so legit and a lot of people have been asking me to do a build with that a legit wanted to do a build with that and the motherboard and I was just hustling man those streets I was going hard anyway it was just one shot they just had it out the back they're like what sounds like what's this they're like oh I'm three board six core phenom I'm like yeah let's talk prices and they came in around 1800 Thai dollars which would be like 60 or $70 like now look here's the deal fifteen hundred boys or I walk and then they're like ah yeah yeah yeah yeah fifteen hundred is okay solo yeah yeah cash bang out the door so yeah I got it for about 50 us for the motherboard and the six core Phenom so I was providing pretty happy about that that was really cool so that'll be a build for the ages that'll be a good one to jot down how well does it yeah and the yes man was hustling and you should either be quite a cool thing for you to do with the video like if you ever not liked so much a hidden camera but a camera it's not so much in someone's face maybe partly hidden or something and then you can be like how didn't negotiate how to do the yes man hustle and you can go into places and and do some negotiations and show how you get these good deals and stuff is he only seems it yeah I'd love to do that man like I've got to get a camera man so I mean I need a camera man holding that thing by myself I think I think no I mean if they don't know if they not like that are weird because if maybe if you had a camera men with you they may be like be a bit more reserved or something I'm just thinking for the sake of um yeah like that might be interesting to some people to see how how you go about it because you tend to be able to get these pretty good well if anyone has your like if anyone has a recommendation yeah for something like I I've got no idea what I'd buy what would be something little that would be inconspicuous and would be kind of like people wouldn't notice but I could record I'd be down for that any day of the week or you can always just record record a audio you know just have have a small mic on you or something or be holding your phone in your hands with the recording going and then you can just say like hey okay show show that or something like that but um well do that I ended up at this mall I ended up walking to the top floor dude I just did not care I was going into repair like I think I went into Kingston's repair warranty service place I just walked right up to the back to do to the back walked straight past the front check at the counter and it's like dude I'm looking for some use parts here's the bag here like am i Osho pointing to the bag and I'm like I pulled out some money I'm like I want to buy and he's like dude this this is a repair center man how much like I don't care this man has it made you don't stop used anywhere and no place is off-limits saying they've got a storefront it's open to the public hey it's open for me to come in and just hustle for some use parts is that your philosophy Bryan is better to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission exactly man that's it no asking note I come from the school of no ask II know Getty man so yes something like dude if someone comes up to me and they ask questions man I'm you know I'm happy I love that guys hustlin that's respect you know so yeah it's the same just though it's a world man you just got to stop sitting down and and thinking and just do do stuff that's good bro I'm incorporating the 1990s Nike slogan just yeah that's it just oscillate yeah man so awesome so where we closing off a thanks care for joining us for episode 29 and I'll make it thread on the forums this week so you guys can drop some questions in if you have questions and yeah we just had one last question Bryan here from a a Steve at a hardware unboxed and yeah okay what Brian tell did tell tell them about the cooler master pickup line crew so they could know with what I saw didn't tell me I don't they didn't tell me that this is okay this is the story man this is gonna are I will say this one it's so oh it's it's bad but it's actually funny okay so I'm at the MSI booth day one and now this is my manager of like coolermaster she's that she's the lady that I talked to for samples and stuff like I I didn't realize because she came out and said like she came up to me at the msi booth day one she's like hey Brian was something like hey what's up so you got me coming to the Coolermaster party tonight I'm like that was like my day off I was so wrecked I'd really been drinking for days straight for that time like six and a half and I was like look I kind of need a night off tonight and she said I my name's javi and I'm like I didn't didn't click to me that this was have area that the chick that I was like I was talking with on email and so I'm at the coolermaster booth like a few days later doing the video forum I'm so hey what's up you know you cuz I was feeling better at that time you know and had a day off and I mean I've been partying a little bit bit so you know you go on partying tonight like what's up and she's like nah I'm um I'm I'm wrecked I was like her day off she was like I'm wrecked and I'm like oh damn you know damn and I was like well that's so cool you know we can bring the party to my place she's like I'm good a boyfriend overlay all snapping and later none of it low later Steve was like Steve was like cuz he was there I think Steve was like dude you do realize that's the person sending you samples I'm like oh my then it clicked oh my oh that's that's a maybe like I've said every one man when I'm single I'm single man and until I find a girlfriend that's you know hustling everything it's not just used part to be hustling yeah sir in those in those samples oh yeah I'm having a bit of a try you know seven no just sit sit so I would say it was just displays the funniest story valises I miss Steve was laughing well yeah we did we had no idea Steve made his own mistake and that's up for him to tell the audience too so he did he he he can tell his side of the story as well he had an interesting story to tell what that too wasn't just me so at the end of the day I was the dumb guy so it's just I was like I was oblivious so I didn't know no one told me so yeah because I thought it was pronounced like it Xavier I like X various so I didn't have any idea that have E and Xperia so it did die I know I've been in that situation before we think here you kind of like imagine the name would be pronounced differently and then you sort of get taken back a little bit yeah I didn't click it old man didn't click but yeah it was good times man that was just one of the I think it was like the best there's definitely the best business trip I've ever been on so that was just insanely good I loved it yeah awesome trip anyway you guys jump onto the forums too if you got questions tech CD TV slash forums if you want to ask a question we'll be opening up a new thread and also I bang the microphone that's a sin on live stream also guys head over to patron and if you want to support a dollar a month you can get access to livestream so yeah and the content will be getting a lot better now I'm going to pull my pull my ass back into professional gear it's going to be professional Yolo content coming out now so it's all back it's almost good yep the Mojo's the Mojo's back after that trip to Taipei it's back 100% so right dude yeah you have a good day yeah I'm going to be checking out there I'm going to be doing a be thrifty motherboard review this week so rock on the good old be thrifty bro that in I say tomahawk Aaron's been going on about you can overclock that you're gonna get into it there you go oh yeah did he take a look at it yeah it should be okay way to go expert sauce watch something you can't aim at sorry I missed it I was just busy as it's right now right si si alright guys Lucy's later thanks for tuning in this week and we'll catch you in the next week of the tech lounge peace out for now bye see you
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