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so you've probably just bought some ddr4 memory you've stumbled upon this video and in my opinion you're entitled to get those extra speeds for the money you just spent welcome back to take that city today we're going to be doing a ddr4 memory overclocking tutorial and now in this tutorial it differs a little bit to the ddr3 memory over tutorial in that the timings are a little bit more relaxed the voltages are lower but for what it's worth a lot of the variables are still the same as they were with ddr3 memory we've just got to change those variables especially the first three timings as low as possible and then we've got to change the tier ass to a sweet spot and that's about it I give it maybe give it a bit of a voltage bump so today we'll be going for a 2400 mega it's overclocked on some crucial ddr4 memory I don't have the ddr4 memory box but I've got a crucial MX 100 SSD here that should do the trick but without further ado let's move on now to the tutorial okay so now you're on the desktop I want you guys to grab a program called I 264 it's it's pretty much good at all this program is really good for benchmarking as Welli now you'll put the link in the description below you can download it for free you also get a three free 30-day trial as well which I do recommend just using that you don't have to buy this software you can just use it for free for 30 days to find your overclock and then be done but yeah anyway once we've done there we can go to tools and get a CPU ID and we can also go to system I mean you can do the keishon memory benchmark here which will benchmark your memory fine so go to tools again we'll open up cpuid just to make sure as you can see we've got a four gig overclock that I just did before and when go to keishon memory benchmark and so what we want to do here is before we start doing this overclocking tutorial is we want to make sure that our memory overclocks are stable and we're actually getting the set increases on our memory because if for instance if we're overclocking like today we're going to be going for a 4.2 gig overclock so since we're going for a 4.2 sorry 2.4 gig overclocked or two thousand four hundred megahertz on the memory we're going to want to make sure and want to check what our baseline speeds are before we do this and so this is just to make sure that we're actually getting performance benefits out of overclocking our memory so what we're doing here is we're just running a quick benchmark on the memory just to make sure everything that we do today is actually giving us an increase and then we shall be good to go so use this as a baseline you might want to save a screenshot after you've run this benchmark and then you can start jumping into the boss however we just have to wait until this benchmarks done as also with my overclocking tutorials I don't like to cut any of it out unless I have to think before I was coughing in my previous benchmark so I had to cut it out but so here we see here we're just going to run the benchmark and then we're going to restart the computer and then we're going to start overclocking the memory now one thing to remember just like the CPU is the memory also is pretty much a silicon lottery some people can get really good memory some people can get bad memory in that it doesn't overclock too well so basically these speeds for instance mine's the crucial ddr4 2,000 133 megahertz memory these speeds out of the box is what it's guaranteed to run out so today we're going for two thousand four hundred megahertz with slightly lower timings and that should give us a bit of a performance increase so here would finish the benchmark we see here those numbers 46,000 51,000 49,000 those are the ones to look at especially with that total latency there 69.6 nanoseconds so once we've done that we can save that I will save it to my desktop and we can go save and then we can close these down and restart our computer and start jumping into the BIOS so we're going to start getting straight into the deep end now as I said before my CPU overclock tutorial you may have a different BIOS to me especially this this is in the future where different motherboards are out 109 or whatever numbering scheme but we've got here we hit delete just to jump into BIOS as soon as we start up our computer and yes we just got to wait try and jump into BIOS hopefully our BIOS hopefully the gigabyte BIOS bug doesn't strike again so the gigabyte motherboard the x99 it actually has this problem where it can't mean it you can get in stable overclocks but it just resets the overclocks it's some weird bug going on with this BIOS but anyways we boot up the computer we can just hit delete and jump straight into the bales hopefully I don't know what's going on here it's just taking its time come on gigabyte motherboard it's doing a few cycles where he's setting having a dance okay so I'd like you guys to see everything as well everything that happens behind the scenes because it's important part to overclocking overclocking is not easy it's not just like you're not just punching in a few things and everything's perfect there's actually a lot of hair pulling and it can be stressful at times so I'm glad you guys can see that this BIOS bugs reared its ugly head because anyway we're jumping into the boss here this is the gigabyte blast we can press f2 and get to the classic mode now in a Zeus bias or an msi bias or maybe a ga bias might look a little bit different but again as I said in the CPU overclock jus doral the settings should be pretty similar so now that we've moved into we can go down to advanced so we should have advanced frequency settings we should have our 4 gig overclocked locked in here but now we can go down to advanced memory settings and what we want to do here is we want to up it to 2.4 gig or make sure your num lock button is turned on and you can use the numpad on your keyboard and do once you guys to hit in 24 here and essentially what this will do is will raise the speed of our memory to 2400 megahertz now there's two ways you can do this overclock you can leave it at 2130 three megahertz and drop the timings or you can just up the speed and try and get the best timings possible in my opinion I like to go with a bit of both that's why we're going with the 2400 mega overclock today so I like to give it a bit more speed I also like to drop the timings down and get the best overclock that I can so now memory enhancement settings we don't have to do anything there but memory timing mode we want to hit hit enter and go to manual and essentially this will allow us to edit our timings manually and put in our settings so channel interleaving also we'll want to enable this because this will pretty much enable all the same timings across all the memory all the memory subsets so anyway once we've done that once we've enabled that we can then go to this one rank interleaving as well enabled so again we want all our settings interleaved into intertwined entangled basically one of our settings the same as each other across all four memory sticks so I am using four crucial ddr4 memory sticks for this overclock also if you wish to check out a review for that memory then I'll put the description link below but I'm guessing a lot of you guys will be using crucial ddr4 memories it's actually really good value for money so this will be a greater clock if you're on crucial ddr4 memory anyway once we've done that we can hit that enabled enabled memory timing manual we can then go down to channel a memory sub timings and then we can go down here memory timing modes already set to manual and then we can go to memory and boot mode and I like to set this to normal mainly because of the fact that this gigabyte motherboard still has some BIOS problems and I like my memory booting up at a normal speed you can if you want to save time you can enable fastboot as well but I like to go normal memory boot mode and then we can go to cast latency and now for me I like to hit in 14 so so you can see the defaults 15 but that's a 2133 megahertz as we upped the speed of the memory technically our latency gets faster as well because our memory is running faster in general so if we would compare 15 nanoseconds on the cast latency at 2004 megahertz as opposed to 2133 megahertz it would be something like 14 yay around about thirteen point nine maybe I'm not too sure I have to get a calculator anyway off the top of my head that makes about sense but anyway we're going down to 14 now so essentially at 2133 megahertz I could probably run this at 13 but since we're going for two thousand four hundred megahertz I'm going to drop this down to fourteen and the T RCD I'm going to put this to fifteen generally I found with my ddr3 memory as well this setting the TRC D generally loves to be one nanosecond slower than the cast latency and the TRP now you're probably wondering what exactly these settings are basically they just think of it as just simple variables which you have to change in order to get the best speeds possible don't try to understand exactly what they are I mean if you want to stand understand what they are then I'll put a wiki article in the description below where you can read up about all these timings and what they do but just understand of the way we can change them and what effects what essentially so don't try to understand why why why just understand these are variables you need to get them as low as possible for the set voltage in order to get the best speeds so now we've done you can feel free to copy my settings if my settings don't work then you may wish to drop it back to 15 possibly even 16 like that and just just you know 15 17 16 if your memory is really bad so it depends on you guys but I'm going for 14 15 14 at 2400 megahertz now with these three settings these are the three ones that you want as low as possible now the tier ass this is a setting which generally in the past with ddr3 and ddr4 specially this one was generally the sum of all these three plus one which in this case would be like 44 but I found on ddr4 memory it's a different kettle of fish this at 44 actually makes a computer a little bit weird like icons don't refresh properly I just find in general I have a little bit of problems if this is the same this is the sum of all three plus one or two so generally I've found from my RAM I like to have this a little bit under the sum of all these three say minus four or minus three I find if I have this at 38 again I run into problems so I like to have this at 40 the sum of all these three minus three so you guys can copy mine mine sweet spot for this is 40 your sweet spot might be a little bit different but again you want to set this to whatever a sweet spot is on your RAM and that can only be done through testing and that's the sometimes that's the hard part I can't tell you what your sweet spot will be fuel memory sometimes you just have to test test it out and find out for yourself so feel free to copy my settings and if they don't work you can maybe relax them a little bit like this and go from there but for what it's worth we'll go with fourteen fifteen fourteen forty and then we'll go scape and essentially what that'll do is since they're all interleave it'll enable that on all the channels as well so here we go they're channel ABCD should be all the same and now for voltage so once we've done that we can hit escape and we can hit escape again and we can go down to advanced voltage settings and we can hit enter here and then we can go to D round voltage control and we can hit enter and what we want to do here is maybe give it a little bit of a boost sometimes your memory will run at these speeds at one point two volt in my case I had to give it a little bit more and that was one point two three volt so maybe you might want to start off with say one point two five volt and maybe go from there that's up to you maybe yes since we're just doing a guide today we'll go with one point two to five volt on both the dual channel configurations a and B and a and B now the DDR VPP voltage we don't have to touch that and the DRAM termination voltage we can generally leave those at auto since we're not going for a really big overclock here we're just going for a nice simple easy overclock a little bit of enhancement so 1.2 volt we'll start off with that if you can't boot you might have to give it a bit more or if you're on a gigabyte BIOS you might have the BIOS bug and so you don't even know if it's stable or not so I really wish gigabyte would hurry up and fix their BIOS bug but for what it's worth if you're on a messiah Zeus or an EVGA motherboard sure you can start out trying 1.25 volt and now once we've done that we can hit left and right on the numpad and go over to save and exit and go down to save profile and we can maybe put it for gigs memory testing memory memory tests so just so we know what what overclock we're going with today so we've done that profile saved okay and now we can go to save and exit and hit enter and we should be good to go now so we should be able to boot straight into Windows and hopefully everything is stable so I decided with my overclocking tutorials this time to go with some easy over clocks because last time I did go a little bit aggressive with my over clocks and some people were not able to obtain the over clocks that I was able to obtain and so it caused a little bit of confusion this time I'm going with over clocks that I think most people should be able to obtain a lot of the population should be able to obtain so that hopefully this guides a little bit more simpler than my previous guides as well as the fact that haswell-e is just a power consumption beast I mean it's pretty funny this thing actually uses up quite a bit of power haswell-e the six core the also the ddr4 even though the ddr4 uses up less power than the ddr3 the actual six core itself is a bit of a beast sorry once we booted into Windows here we'll see that that was a successful boot so what that means is that my memory is either stable or it's really close to being stable now there's another setting in there that's pretty important and that's the command rate though we won't go over that today because yeah I mean it's it's one of those settings that can cause a lot of problems as well for starters I do recommend trying 1t so I'd recommend trying to T first actually and if your overclock is stable at those speeds then you can try dropping down to 1t though if it becomes unstable you can put it back to 2t and it shouldn't be much of a problem I find it doesn't affect gaming especially smoothness at all so that's something you might want to test but once we've done that we can go open i-264 and we can open CPU ID and we can open cache in memory benchmark now before when we go start benchmark now before I showed you that screenshot so what we're doing this time around is we're simply making sure that our memory is running either higher or at least the same as it was before and so hopefully you guys should see here a better benchmark than what I got before and now my memory is able as well I'll talk about a few other things this memory I've got is able to go up to two thousand six hundred and sixty-six megahertz now there's more expensive Ram out there that's able to go even higher say two thousand eight hundred megahertz and that's with profiles of I think they're X and P profiles as well so if you have some of that RAM that's great I'd probably just recommend whacking in the XMP profiles and being and calling it a day but if you're on the you know the budget ddr4 memory which is fantastic value for money then you can overclock this stuff and get a bit of extra performance out of it as we can see here the latency is already faster than what it previously was so we've shaved about 6 nanoseconds off the latency which is a good thing especially for games and so I mean you can shave it you can try shave off more time if you want to by dropping some of these timings down even more maybe you can try and get it down to 59 that's I think that's where I got it down to 59 nanoseconds of 2666 I believe but anyway let's have a save we'll save that now desktop I think it was called cache mem 2 so we call that number 2 we'll save that there and now we can open these up side by side and we can check we just do one in the other but we can see here the memory that we look at the speeds here we can see here the read speeds are faster on the overclock the write speeds are a little bit faster which is still a good thing and the copy speeds are significantly faster so the read and copy speeds are faster and the latency is better so the level three cache was a little bit slow two nanoseconds slower but that's not to worry because generally everything else is a bit faster so this in my opinion is a successful overclock on the memory now another thing we can do is if you want to make sure that this memory overclock is fully stable we can close this down we can go to system stability test here and we can just click stress so make sure these are unchecked and just stress system memory and then we can start and this if there's a problem with your memory you should be able to see it here so we can see here this one's just gone up and down a little bit but I mean since the system memory it can do this so don't worry about it too much anyway that's that system memory is fine I mean sorry this is the actual CPU usage so as I was saying before it's fine if this is dropping up and down since it's actually testing the CPU man I'm sorry it's testing the ddr4 memory and not the CPU so anyway you can run this system to stability test this will just stress your system memory if you come into a crash almost immediately that would indicate that you either need more voltage or you'd have to drop your speeds back so just like the CPU some memory just won't be able to run at certain speeds you'll hit the through you'll hit the max cap where your your gear just can't run anymore for instance my CPU just can't go over 4.5 gigs I mean it can boot at 4.5 gigs hell I think it can even boot at 4 by 6 gigs but it can't be stable at 4.5 gigs the most I can get my house while a CPU do is 4.4 gigs fully stable as opposed to my 4 core which can get fully stable at 4.6 gigs sorry I just had to have a break there I just coughed it's so dry in this room but I'm anyway as I was saying last things last and that is yeah your memory just might not be able to get to 2666 megahertz if you're really unlucky you might not even be able to get your memory to 2400 megahertz I imagine there would be someone out there that just can't get their memory to 2400 megahertz and if you're that person then you've just lost the silicon lottery that's all it means however even if you can't get your memory to 2400 megahertz I still recommend dropping down the timings if you can 15 1536 seems a little bit it's not I guess it's not the perfect overclock for memory out of the factory maybe try and get it down to 4 13 14 13 36 and just leave it at that I try to do that first starters at one point two volt but as you've seen here I've got my memory at 1415 1440 at 2400 megahertz and it's running completely fine it's beastin it's feastin and it's winning so if you guys have any questions about overclocking memory then please leave a comment in the comment section below and if you liked this tutorial please give it a thumbs up and if you have any questions or anything yeah you just don't understand or you want to get your head around then I'll help you out as best as I can anyways if you haven't really subscribed to a city where I'll be coming back with more tech videos for you guys and I look forward to catching you guys in another tech video very soon and also one thing I forgot to add was that yeah just I mean memory overclocking memory is a little bit more annoying than overclocking the CPU in my opinion because even though you might think you've got a stable memory overclock it's just more random in general like if you don't have a stable CPU overclock it'll generally tell you pretty much straight away a memory an unstable memory overclock can do some little weird things like for instance icons not showing and so if you've noticed if you just notice something strange as soon after you've done your memory over clocks then in my opinion that's not a stable memory overclock and you might want to give it a little bit more voltage or slow down some of your speeds or relax your timings a little bit anyways that's about it and I look forward to seeing you another tech video peace out for now bye you