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a ch3 70 MB 360 and also a ch3 10 motherboards are now upon us in the wild and are they what you're looking for especially if you're looking to get a non overclockable cpu whack it in even use the stock cooler and extract more value because previously the z3 70 motherboards were released and they were the only motherboards on the shelves for quite a while and people who just wanted to get an eighty seven hundred for example didn't need that Z license and you may be wondering what are the differences between these and of course is e360 motherboards well the biggest difference between this and of course the z series is you can't overclock on these motherboards and in fact on all three motherboards the max memory multiplier you can achieve is 20 666 but here we've got a h3 70 and Wi-Fi from gigabyte B 360 or is gaming 3 and also a h3 70 MITx from asrock and you're probably wondering can these motherboards handle and 8700 K at 4.3 gigahertz which is essentially the same as in 8700 without throttling on the vrm and the answer that question is yes so I've tested all these motherboards with the FLIR one pro camera and we can see that the gigabyte got around 85 degrees the h3 70 and this was after a sizable stress test of over 15 minutes in I 264 on all cores and all threads and I was actually pleasantly surprised to see that this motherboard was doing so well we've got a little bit of headroom there on the vrm they're using a 4 + 2 phase power design with on semiconductors 34 amps on the high side and 52 amps on the low side this is at 80 degrees this is right where it's getting stressed at now the ambient temperatures were about 24 degrees when I was doing the testing and moving along with the B 360 motherboard here it's using the same vrm at least for the CPU except it has a 4 plus three-phase power design and you've got again four phases dedicated towards the CPU so no surprise when I did the vrm temperature test on this it scored basically the same since they both have heat sinks and I was getting around 85 degrees as well on full load moving over to the h3 70 M from asrock they're using a semi child for the MOSFETs there the dual ends so they packed it all into one box there with the MOSFETs and you're getting a MOSFET that's rated at 25 amps now when I tested the 8700 K on this as well the erm temperatures did go just above a hundred degrees so it was a little bit worried about what I'll sing but the actual MOSFETs themselves were okay so all three of these boards I was happy to report that there was no throttling when you're maxing out an 8700 K but of course what about all the other bells and whistles on these three motherboards let's take a look welcome back to check yet City this is Brian coming to you guys today with a look at these three multiples that you see on the table now I did previously take a look at the B 360 M the prime series from Zeus I'll put the link up here that was okay I mean within 8400 the vrm was getting a little bit hard and I unfortunately couldn't even test my 8700 K on that actual motherboard I've got to figure that out I am gonna go get another 8700 K retail sample and go try that out on that motherboard to see if it works but I was happy to say that my engineering sample did work on all these and they were juicing over a hundred watts and the CPU alone so if the vrm can handle it on the 8700 k then it can handle it on any of the other SKUs on the 8th gen coffee like CPUs now the good thing is as well the audio on all three of these motherboards is actually pretty good I was surprised to see that gigabyte have addressed and also as rock as well that crosstalk problem when we look at the asrock here that's pretty much the same as it's always been with the LC 1220 except this time around there's that crosstalk it's not leaking all the way up to a hundred so cross talks really good frequency response curve is really good as well pretty much flat throughout the hallway of course under 20 Hertz you do get a little bit of a drop-off with that bass but great for mid-range cans of course if you're going for higher-end cans you may wish to get a dedicated audio solution the mic input itself was pretty good the noise is pretty much on par with all previous asrock motherboards so you can use it with a decent mic and now moving over to the B 360 mother body of the gaming 3 they've also addressed that crosstalk problem it's no longer existent all the way up to 100 volume however on this motherboard / - in particular there was a 1.5 decibel difference between the left and right channel I couldn't balance that out unless I manually set the right channel at a bit of the less volume so I managed to balance it out manually but out of the box it was a little bit off the left and right channel crosstalk of course was really good however when we're moving in the frequency response curve that was a little bit off as well at the higher frequencies the bass roll-off was very well controlled like 2.5 decibels on to 20 Hertz very nice will work pretty well with mid-range cans and you you have more volume on this as opposed to the Z 370 which I previously took a look at just last month and then moving over now to the H 370 n here's where things get interesting with the onboard audio because the mic input showed absolutely no noise all the way up to a hundred with plus 30 dB so I do believe they're using noise suppression however with the audio it was extremely loud I had to drop the volume down to 25 just to get an accurate reading on this motherboard with the audio and the frequency response curve did show some really solid numbers the base drop-off was a little bit more than these other two boards but that's probably because I lowered the volume that much that it may have affected that base so the volume is extremely loud on this motherboard the mic input is really good too however above a volume level of 95 there was that crosstalk leaking problem that is rearing its head again so if you are using onboard audio with this and you do have mid-range cans you may wish to set the volume level to 95 or below and also the mic import on the B 360 is pretty much the same as the h3 70 from asrock so pretty solid keep the volume at either 50 with plus 20 DB or plus 30 DB and you should be good to go with no noise now the last thing with the audio there is no coax optical out so if you like me and you use a logitech Z 906 none of these motherboards are gonna provide that so it was a little bit disappointed to see that not being present on all three boards but let's look at the feature set on each of these motherboards h3 70 and Wi-Fi of course includes Wi-Fi tested the speeds on the necks as well on all three boards they all checked out all have consistent speeds across Wi-Fi and the signal strengths are really good the asrock includes the antennas these two here include a separate module however the B 360 gaming you need a plug-in device down in the middle of the board so you do get that included with the motherboard itself now with the USB ports we've got five USB ports on the H 370 n also got a Type C as well and you've got USB 3 though when I did test the USB 3 speeds on some of the ports they were only giving around USB 2 speeds so I'm not entirely sure what's going on there B 360 or is gaming was phenomenal and saying with the Azeroth board these both have eight USB ports one of these being a type see the asrock not having a type C port both the Mini ITX boards surprisingly have dual necks on board too now the last thing is with Thunderbolt support none of these support Thunderbolt from the motherboard directly though you can add in a card and connect it up to the on board connectors if you wish to the H 370 and and the B 360 from gigabyte they include RGB headers and so you can sync your RGB with your motherboard via the BIOS or the utility if you wish to be 360 has four slots onboard here for up to 64 gigabytes of unbuffered memory these two mini ITX ports have up to 32 gigabytes support there's also USB 3 headers on each of the three motherboards and also if you're going to be using outputs for onboard video then the both the mini ITX solutions have HDMI to out hdmi 1.4 and DVI out the B 360 only has DVI and HDMI 1.4 out onboard and now the last thing to talk about with the feature set itself is the generous amount of fan headers included on all three models Mini ITX boards here they both have three PWM fan header outs the B 360 gaming has five so that is impressive to see if you want to use this in a full fledge build then you know you're gonna have a lot of fan header outs the B 360 also has to RGB outs and it also has the ability to switch between 5 and 12 volt control and now it's time to talk about the last difference between all these motherboards the B 360 versus the H 370 the chipset license itself the B 360 has the Intel obtain rst driver control on it the H 370 has the rst premium just like the z3 70 and now with the z3 70 and the H 370 you can essentially raid0 nvme drives so even this little H 370 in here from gigabyte you can get to nvm a PCIe drives and then raid 0 since it does actually have 2 m dot 2 slots one on the front and one of the rear of the board fantastic design the h3 70 from asrock only has one so you won't be doing any raid 0 and the B 360 although it has 2 since you've got that license with only the not the premium you can't unfortunately raid0 the drives on this motherboard so now we're gonna move on to conclusion time and of course the biggest thing when you're buying any product is going to be the price the H 370 n on Amazon at the moment is a hundred and thirty US so pretty well priced for a mini ITX board that basically features everything that I'd want out of a mini ITX board it's even got that option to raid0 those nvme drives the onboard audio is fantastic it's also even got RGB control on board though not too sure how you'd get too much RGB bling on a mini ITX build in Australia it's 215 AUD so the Australian pricing is a little bit off I'd like to see that fixed if possible move over to the B 360 gaming 3 120 us or a hundred and 80 Australian so it's actually pretty well priced at least better price than the H 370 N and of course you do get actually the m2 shield as well I forgot to mention this have tested this before does actually make a difference unlike other brands that are putting m dot 2 shields on their boards this does drop the temperatures of your m2 drive does spread that heat out so it is great if you're doing a lot of video editing or doing massive file transfers and you want to make sure that your nvme drives gonna stay a bit cooler so overall pretty solid unit as well as the V RMS on both the gigabyte solutions max was 85 degrees on the worst case scenario as well the bias itself as well was very nice on these two solutions did have all the options that you would want and was very easy to configure out of the box both on easy mode and advanced mode now lastly we're moving on to the h3 7 TM here from Ezra coming in at 115 US dollars or if in Australia 170 AUD so the Australian pricing is better in comparison to the gigabyte boards and also it's coming in $15 cheaper than the gigabyte ITX solution the biggest difference is is this has more USB ports on the back you get eight standard USB ports you don't have type C a native connector on there but the gigabyte you've only got four USB standard connectors and of course that extra type see the vrm did get a little bit hot I did read up to 105 degrees but it still did not throttle at all so will handle an 8700 absolutely fine but you do put it in a mini ITX built and if you don't have air flow on that mini ITX build then it could be a little bit of a problem so just keep that in mind it was a little bit hotter than the gigabyte solutions here but ultimately it is coming in cheaper and also if you want to do what I did with the EM when chopping with that hundred watt power supply 8400 this would be the best bet for you so really when it comes down to it they've all got their feature sets and they all are priced to where they should be and yeah they all check out guys so if you enjoyed this review then be sure to hit that like button and let me know in the comments section below what do you think about the h3 semi and B 360 motherboards also with a h3 10 motherboard I do want to take a look at one of those so I'll see what I can do and maybe pair with an 8100 though if the VRMs are any weaker than these then I probably wouldn't pair them with the 8700 the h3 tens are looking like they'll handle an 8400 fine which is where that budget price to performance match up with the motherboard and the CPUs is definitely going to sit for sweet spot people who want to build those gaming rigs out there anyway guys I'll catch you in another tech video very soon peace out for now bye a little bit on semiconductors with the high side rated at should research that 34 inch and you're getting well cut will cost that out till the end welcome back