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here we are now today at part 2 of the ultimate showdown between the 1680 v2 which is a Zeon made in 2013 against the 9900 k and also the rise in seven 2700 x two of the best CPUs from 2018 both 8 cores 16 threads both overclockable and also I'm just going to repeat myself again before we move into these videos this series is not about value for money in fact the 1680 v2 has now ballooned out in price because I guess there's some pent up demand for it I originally picked up both my xeon chips for three hundred and thirty-nine dollars and three hundred and ninety nine dollars respectively these CPUs are now well over $700 because I guess people just want to relive 2013 but also for the guys out there saying the risin 8 core is only four hundred three hundred dollars yes I you're beating a dead horse I agree rise uns phenomenal value go watch my reviews on it go watch the recent video I published where I think Intel's in trouble this Christmas because they don't have an answer to the risin 5 2600 and in fact my favorite CPU of this year is probably the risin 5 2600 I think it's phenomenal value for money comes with the cooler 6 cores 12 threats that anyway with all that argument aside we're gonna move on now with the old Xeon from 2013 because I think these arguments are coming up now because apparently stuff that is this old should be in the dumpster but ironically enough it's beating out stuff that's coming out in 2018 so I think that's where these irrelevant arguments are coming from that I'm not even raising and I'm actually an advocate of this video is just taking a look at a CPU that is now overpriced on the second-hand market and seeing how good it is in 2018 nothing more nothing less and with that aside we've got the input latency tests here today at a thousand fps this is what I'm using with my Sony camera that allows me to shoot at these levels and the beauty of this at a thousand fps that one-frame equals one millisecond so we can get some very accurate results for testing input latency between these three chips when they're all overclocked to their best water and air levels so let's get on with it welcome back to tech yes City and right here on the desk we have our little hacked up contraption and when we press this little button it's hooked up to an LED light which then lights up to know that mouse-click has actuated at that exact point in time and so with our thousand FPS camera we're now able to see how much input delay there is through the whole system so for the specs with all these tests we're using the asrock taiichi ultimate boards across the x4 70 and z3 90 lines and then for the Xeon we're using the rampage four extreme and for the memory we're using thirty six hundred megahertz CL eighteen on both the Intel and AMD solutions from twenty eighteen and then on the Xeon we're using some mia corsair 1600 megahertz stuff and it's CL eight timings so now for the first test we have csgo this is actually a brilliant game for testing total input latency and after this video I discovered exactly why we have such a high FPS draw coupled with the fact that our CPU is actively at its maximum speeds so there is no delay through and through this whole process and here we saw that the 9900 case scored the best time that I've seen yet seven milliseconds in total input lag which is very impressive it does speak lengths towards the mouse that we're using the Logitech g3 which ironically is very old it's older than the Zeon's and it also speaks lengths for the XG 35 from a Zeus not to mention the total input system latency itself is extremely low the worst frame we saw here was 17 milliseconds and then the average here was eleven point two seven milliseconds moving over to AMD side on the horizon 2700 X we had the best frame coming into eleven milliseconds and the worst coming in at 27 milliseconds this scored with an average of eighteen point two seven milliseconds a all the runs and then coming in with a 1680 v2 we got the best response at 8 milliseconds versus the worst at 15 milliseconds this enabled it to score an average across all runs of eleven point nine milliseconds so somewhere closer to the 9900 K here and I guess this specific example with csgo is the best case scenario for all different CPUs that lives across the four different tests we did here today so we see here that the both the ring bus CPUs are just that little bit better than the Zen architecture when it comes to the total system input delay however on top of that it is important to know that they are both scoring higher fps in this benchmark in particular when we look at the previous videos results and csgo but still it was interesting to see that the ring bus 1680 V 2 was coming very close to the 9900 K in the specific benchmark though to throw a curve ball into the equation we are now on the Windows desktop where we are just simply testing the reaction times on an idling CPU I guess you could call it that and here on the 9900 K we scored the worst time coming in with 89 milliseconds the best time 38 milliseconds to average out at sixty point seven two milliseconds on the AMD rise in 2700 X it's called the best at 41 milliseconds and the worst at 64 milliseconds scoring an average of 50 3.1 milliseconds moving over now to the 1680 v2 this got a best-case scenario of 35 and a worst case scenario of 59 scoring an average of 46 point 5 so when I looked at this second example the first thing that came to my mind was the tales of Roche where he used to talk about the turbo frequencies disabling him completely for the best possible input lag and we can see contrasting these average numbers to the csgo numbers there is quite a sizeable difference and since we are idling in the desktop the processors will naturally go into a halt State and so this actually contributes to the input delays quite severely and so it was quite interesting to see the Xeon come out ahead here where it has the highest idle power consumption but it does get the best input delay in terms of millisecond times leading the results here against both the Rison in the kay and now moving over to Adobe Premiere Pro which is honestly where I spend a lot of my time on a computer nowadays and we got two different tests here the first is just a file flick reaction test kind of similar to the windows tests and we scored here with the 9900 Kay a best-case scenario of 32 milliseconds worst case scenario of 39 milliseconds and that's called an average of 37 milliseconds moving on now to the Rison 720 700 X scored a best-case scenario of 29 worst case scenario of 38 milliseconds and then that averaged out to 33 point seven so it again beat the 9900 Kay and then moving over to the 1680 v2 that's called a best-case scenario of 28 milliseconds worst case scenario of 37 scoring an average of 33 point 3 milliseconds so coming very close to that of the horizon 720 700 X so after analyzing these results I then looked at what was going on with the process at least in an idyll Premiere Pro and we can see at least with the 1680 b2 the processor speed is all over the place so if there's one thing I do remember it's going back to some of these guides that I heard way back in the past where people were warning about the disadvantages of the halt States themselves and I guess looking at this and least comparing these numbers again to the csgo numbers we can see this Holt states do add input delay at least when it comes to Premiere Pro and windows files now to the last test we're gonna pull up here is a premier Pro cut test because when you're flicking through certain footage for instance if I'm flicking through voice work I'll be cutting out blunders and mishaps and so this test is a guess a next-level test to see how it interacts with the file through Premiere Pro itself and the 99 hundred K here scored 41 milliseconds lowest time and the worst time it scored 53 milliseconds with an average of 47 point 3 milliseconds movie over now to the horizon 720 700 X scored a worst time of 70 milliseconds and a best time of 50 milliseconds with an average of 61 point 5 move over and out of the Z on 16 atv2 that's called a best-case scenario of 31 milliseconds with a worst case scenario of 73 milliseconds averaging out 256 milliseconds so what's crazy to see the zealand both the best score and the worst score with an average that fit in between the 9900 K and the 2700 X and so really putting all these results into context I'm definitely going to be looking after this video into fine tuning my rig in that if you guys remember back in the day they used to be these complaints about for instance a asrock z77 motherboard always keeping the cpu for instance with a 3770k at 4.4 gigahertz and it wouldn't down clock it but this may have not been a bad thing in hindsight it may have been a really good thing and that you still got the power advantages of holt States because CPU was constantly at its maximum active frequency ready to be more responsive as opposed to down clocking and essentially wasting your time so in conclusion with today's video I guess going into this we've answered a few questions and that is the higher the FPS draw the better also if your CPU is active at its maximum frequency then it's going to be more responsive but also when it comes to the software itself for instance in a engine like Adobe Premiere Pro what is the max FPS draw in that in that if we increase the FPS draw in these programs like Premiere Pro will that then give us better response times and I do think it indubitably will but now the question going into this video now coming out is how much of a difference will it make and also if we set our processor to be active at its highest frequency that we've overclocked it to all the time how much will we then gain out of that in terms of Rison 720 700 X versus the 99 hundred K though versus the 1680 V 2 there's not a huge difference there's nothing to write home about overall the 1680 v 2 did score a little bit better but it's not a reason to go purchase this CPU over the 9900 K or the 2700 X unless you are the pro of pro gamers playing at the top level and even a few milliseconds could cost you a lot of money in that case you'd probably want to get the 9900 K and clock it to 5 gigahertz even got a little bit of a cushioning this is such a good hat anyway guys hope you enjoyed today's video if you did then be sure to hit that like button let us know in the comments section below what you think of today's comparison also with the price performance argument again I'm going to reiterate it for the end time this is not about price performance of course products are going to be better price performance as they go forward if they weren't then no one would buy them logically anyway coming out of this video I'm a little bit bedazzled guess that's the right word and we're gonna move on to part three soon with the productivity numbers I'll catch on and I'll take video very soon peace out for now bye you