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Is X58 Still Worth it..? Taking the 6 Core X5675 to 4.5GHz on AIR.

2018-04-11
so recently I've got a bit of free time and I was watching a bit of hardware unboxed and I noticed him on the news corner he said something that I thought was a little bit off I'll roll it for you guys hey Liam for example was released in 2008 and West me in 2010 so if we're using a CPU from 8 to 10 years ago it's probably time to update it anyway so I'm pretty sure some people would agree with this statement but if you guys know me you'll know x58 is practically my favorite platform of all the time because it has triple channel memory because I can get those six quarts well threaded Zeon's they're so cheap and you can overclock them sky-high and on that note that's exactly what we're gonna be doing here today we've got the x58 from a Zeus a great motherboard and also want to test it because actually having tried one of these for a very long time and want to see how I can go with an X 56 75 now they have 56 75 apparently it is a better bin than the X 56 70 also got a higher multiplier as well so I'm curious to see how high I can take this thing now for the cooling we're using the Baron case from deep cool I've been meaning to check this out for such a long time just been backlogged quite a bit and this is essentially a case that includes a water cooler fancy tempered glass - and it doesn't break the bank so with that aside let's put this thing together and see what kind of numbers it can push out so first things first with x58 if you haven't used one of these boards in a while you have to take off this heatsink here make sure you replace the thermal paste on the Northbridge heatsink because it can get quite hot and if it doesn't have good cooling then it could be a problem especially when you're overclocking now it is pretty late at night so I don't want to be using brake cleaner as I do want to get into overclocking straight away but I will give a quickie with the data vac and then also change the thermal paste on this Northbridge heatsink here so I know some people would be upset but we have to make do and try and start overclocking this thing so let's get on with it so we've got all the components they're ready to go inside the bearing case and we're going to be giving this x58 some brand new loving we've got a new 1 terabyte drive a new 240 GB SSD and also a 1080 Ti and a brand new 750 watt power supply and this time I do have the i/o shield guys so go crazy in the comments rejoice we have this piece of metal here which is going to boost FPS by at least 50% and the build is now complete and it did take a while to do this build and simply because we have to move the power supply instead of having it in the normal position over the top or underneath we had to put it in the back here and then sort of screw it off to the top and then put all that back together and also the motherboard was actually a really tight fit in this case I actually had a bit of trouble getting in and initially and of course the grabs guard actually still goes into the case that way so overall though I mean now that it's all finished it's actually not a bad look it's actually really tidy and of course we've got a full sized ATX board in something that would be the size of a micro ATX ER size case I guess that's the whole theme behind the bearing case itself but of course how good is the included liquid cooler we're gonna find out right now fire this thing up and get into some overclocking and also deep cool I think these molex connectors they're really good to go and if you don't want to let them go then I'm just gonna keep doing this so it's pretty late now and Windows is updating and I'm just gonna leave this thing updating overnight so we can get all those latest updates and whatnot but the build is running and it's looking really good especially at night when the RGB can shine through on the top you've got the ability to change the colors red green blue yellow white and then like the same colors but with like blinking on and off so that's about it you can just turn it on and off if you wish to as well I think for some reason the red which is the default color I just think that looks the best out of the box you guys can let us know in the comment section what you think is the best color on this thing but surprise it's a tight little unit and tomorrow I'm after I sleep I'm gonna overclock this thing sky-high and see what the temperatures are like with this included cooler and then see how plays games with that 1080 GI so here we are back at it again and I had to update the BIOS before because there was only two sticks of memory being utilized but now after the BIOS update there was three sticks I was also doing my head in because there was this weird problem and I've seen this only once before but I realized it can sort of have an effect on how your device boots up especially on older school motherboards that is Windows for some reason decided to install the system reserve file here to the hard drive and then install the windows itself to the boot drive and so what I had to do is figure out that this drive here the hard drive of the system reserved actually had to be the first boot device and so now I think we're ready to overclock because I couldn't be bothered reinstalling Windows again and then we'll install some games and see how everything goes so this stage I think it's the motherboards I've put in another CPU and it just doesn't want to go like it's just having these food issues and so I'm gonna flip the motherboard to another one and see if it will start working again okay so at this stage we've tried another motherboard now we've tried different memory tried a different side a cable just tried a lot of different things and it's still giving out the same problem where it just kind of refuses to boot it does boot but then it goes after that it just will not do anything and gives out a no signal so what we're gonna do now we're going to just mission abort this gonna leave it all there take the grams card out and just try and just set up a test bed set up so I can overclock some x58 goodness my goodness okay so we are finally now back up and running with x58 and everything seems like it's good to go now got all the memory recognized and we're running on the X 56 75 here at 3.3 4 gigahertz out of the box haven't changed anything temperatures are really good too so this is looking promising now and a lot of people are asking about this cooler here it's the cooler master ma 620 P so I'm gonna be doing a project with cooler master pretty soon this is one of the coolers I had lying around I wanted to use it and just see how it went before of course I do the big video for cooler master on it and it's really good like know if it's one thing about it is it is a bit of a pain to install like its massive as you can see here but the installation kit is welds like that old-school bolt with a tool and it does take a little while to install so if you're doing it for one build its gonna look really good it's got RGB as well on the fans and it's gonna can sync up to your motherboard if you're getting the new latest greatest motherboards but is a pain to install so for a test bench it's not suitable but for everything else in between it is really nice so I don't know I really don't know so far what's with the bearing case and what's causing that issue but everything looks like it's good to go now so now we're finally into action with the x58 motherboard and the X 56 75 and I can confirm that the X 56 75 s at least the one I got here is a pretty good overclocker 4.5 gigahertz on air so we're getting over a thousand points in Cinebench this is for like a $50 CPU guys unbelievable performance got the memory some random blue memory sitting on there 1800 megahertz in triple-channel so if you were to compare that to some brand new dual channel stuff that's like 20 400 megahertz this is at a hardware that's almost 10 years old I'm loving it and you probably like it's got no USB 3 adding a PCIe cut USB 3 front end got it there doesn't have nvme PCIe card doesn't have set PCI PCIe PCIe will solve your life problems anyway so that was a lot of headaches that Express gate setting really held me back a heap of time because I've never come into that problem before and there's a Cinebench score there over a thousand points but we're gonna do a little bit of fine tuning now with this take you guys into a tour into the BIOS with x58 and start overclocking and talking about some of the settings so this is a mid-range board it's actually really nice though because back in the days of x58 mid-range boards were solid overclockers so especially on aaron water now this is a problem I came into and with x58 you can come into these weird problems depending on the motherboard depending on the bias and depending on the settings I have to leave this on with my Corsair SSD if I don't my computer won't boot it's extremely weird first time I've run into this problem now another thing with the gigabyte ud3 are in the past I believe I ran into a problem with you didn't have the uncor frequency at a certain ratio in regards to the CPU ratio you couldn't boot your PC properly like you'd get in you'd start stress testing you think okay the server clocks good then you go to restart your PC and everything just cycles and then you set it to it I forgot what exactly what the she was but setup to a ratio that like three to four I think it is and then it works the azuz board doesn't have that problem at least I haven't run into it yet but we're gonna talk about some of the settings here in this BIOS so I'm call frequency you can set this well below your four or four point four or four point two gigahertz overclock doesn't have to be anywhere near four gigahertz the qpi link rate as well set this to not slow mode because that will literally make your computer so slow set it to the option just above slow mode if you set it to these other two here that's close to 8,000 and above 8,000 that will make your computer unstable and possibly not food as well so there are a few settings here of course that can stop you from booting now another thing is well if it's your first time overclocking x58 drop your memory down to even like just 1,000 megahertz you can deal with that later and you can overclock memory i've got memory overclocking tutorials on the channel a lot of other people have memory over budget auras but i've got that already at 1800 megahertz so that's all good i know it works speedstep technology you can disable this it's not a big deal I like to leave on c1e which is enhanced state so when your computer's not in action it will quickly throttle down to a state just below your overclock and that's how I've always rolled with this platform generally sometimes you can leave it on depending on the motherboard because you may wish to unlock the max multiply as you can see here it went from 23 to 25 instantly so that's the turbo multiply this board enables me to unlock that without having this setting enabled which is great but if you need to have that enabled you may wish to leave it in able to get that extra multiply now moving down here to the DRAM timings there's my custom timings of course if you're overclocking memory you will need that but here we go to voltages okay so this is an important thing since we've dropped the uncor voltage and our memory overclock is not super high as well as our qpi speed we don't have to go berserk on this setting here we can leave it at 1.26 IOH voltage was just input/output hub voltage you can leave that at like 1.18 and drop your own cord to around three gigahertz they should be okay to go now we look here at CPU PLL if you're going for me like a 4.5 gigahertz overclock this is important to set pretty high you may even wish to go higher than 1.9 you may even wish to go to like 2 2.1 if you're on you know l n2 or whatever the 1.9 seems to be about sweet spot for this overclock as well as 1.39 3 voltage now if you're going for four point two four point four even four point four might work at around one point three five four points you might work at one point three two so just keep in mind I'm going for like four point five on-air which is kind of hard to do so I do need to play around with those settings will depend on the CPU have this is the X 56 75 so it does seem to like to go to four point five on-air anyway last setting here of course load line calibration I like to leave that enabled especially on the Zeus motherboards they do get their load line calibration settings pretty much right on the money the spread-spectrum is disabled both of those I think they're for interference or whatever and they can be a detriment to overclock so now we've got all those settings locked in where you can even just give it a bit of a buffer just to make sure because I will be doing stress testing on this platform and I will be comparing it to something of a new generation pretty soon but once we've done with that we can then save our overclock profile and you see all these weird names but anyway just ignore me we'll put 4.5 stable and then we can save that first profile and then we can save exit bang you're good to go guys and that's about it for over clocking the x58 platform of course if you have any questions or comments in relation to that then drop a comment the comment section below remember guys overclocking ten take time I've literally been overclocking or trying to get this thing to work properly for I'd say about five or six hours now including last night this morning so it can take a long time to lock in your over lock every CPU is different of course you can copy my settings but just understand how the settings are correlated to the voltages because that's a big issue or a big thing to get these overclocks working properly with that said let's take a look at that Cinebench school and see the temperatures after a stress test and make sure this thing is okay because we're in and stole some games and see how plays with the 1080 TI so there's the Baron case there I'm not sure what I'm gonna do with it at the moment I'll probably put in a smaller motherboard maybe a H or p55 in this thing and then test it out with like it is elan x 34 70 or something cuz I just think 4 X 58 the board's really big to begin with so it was a bit of a struggle to get the board in and of course I had all these problems and I don't think it was the Baron it's just putting it all back together does take a bit of time and I'm gonna give the x58 board here a bigger home so it does deserve a bigger home especially with the size of this cooler - and the fact that I know this cool works before you 4.5 gigahertz now so what I'm gonna do is yeah find a new home for it and then when we do the comparison versity 8700 k we're gonna give this the best chance it's gone because it deserves it so now I've just finished benchmarking a few games installing the rest of the games as well for the upcoming comparison between the 8700 K but to answer that question of is X 58 still worth it I think the results speak for themselves we're getting a hundred and twenty FPS maxing out Final Fantasy a 15 at 1080p this is what the 1080p is the high settings step it up to 1440p it looks like the graphics card is starting to take the burden the CPU can definitely keep up and this is the latest and greatest title on PC we look at dota 2 a little bit of a sneak preview this thing is getting over 200 FPS and it's still got a lot of headroom to go so 4.5 gigahertz on this CPU is no joke now I've looked at the prices on ebay x58 motherboards are overpriced they'll go on for like 200 us plus really when you get an X 58 board you want to get it on a bargain like about an hour drive from me there's one up on gumtree at the moment for a hundred and ten Australian which would be like a be something US dollars that's coming with a gigabytes of ddr3 memory as well and that's the biggest kicker as the ddr3 memory it's really a lot cheaper than ddr4 memory so if you're in the market to pick up some bargains and get that motherboard get that RAM and even off I'll Express you can get the CPU which is the X 56 75 you can pick that off for sixty US dollars chuck it on this motherboard and you probably will want to get some good cooling because you can use it in the future anyway and you can overclock this thing sky-high and perform really well even with one of the best graphics cards out there today and you guys hope you enjoyed today's video if you did then be sure to hit that like button let us know in the comments section below have you overclocked in x58 motherboard and CPU before do you want to try it definitely can be a lot trickier I mean there is bugs and problems that rear their ugly heads but once you get past that and you get this thing stable it is definitely a blessing in disguise for me I do get frustrated and I do come into these problems with this platform but once I get through it and see the performance like I've got today it does make me feel a lot better I mean the triple channel memory is still so relevant in today's games ddr3 is so much cheaper than ddr4 a lot of people chuck it in with the x58 boards and so it's just really one big bargain to be had if you can pick up the deals I've got a lot of x58 boards around here already like I think three so I don't need anymore but if I did I'd be picking up that deal hey guys I'll catch you in the next video very soon which will be the comparison and then later on I can't really say too much there will be another comparison coming for you guys to stay tuned and I'll catch you in another tech video very soon peace out for now but
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