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Ryzen Problems...!? Post Analysis of the AMD WoW Gaming PC

2018-10-07
today's video is gonna be a little bit different we're gonna talk about some problems that we had that we ran into when making this triple surround setup here as well as they're talking about how to set up an Nvidia surround display actually got quite a few comments on how to do this and what I do recommend if you're gonna use a single graphics card like we did here I get one with three DisplayPort outs and so the 1070 I from Galax that we're using had just that now the models we have have DisplayPort ins and it's pretty important because DisplayPort is just that interface that's so straightforward to use I do prefer it over the others as it I've never had problems in the past using it I couldn't imagine if you're using HDMI or if you're using DVI especially you might run into some different problems especially if you're mixing a DVI HDMI and in DisplayPort I don't know what that would be like before that's worth we use three display ports and we're running it off a single graphics card and you just go into the menu after you've installed that it'll recognize three monitors and then you can go into the Nvidia control panel and it'll just have the option there to enable surround and then you do have to fiddle around a little bit to get the monitors configured so your mouse can then just span over the whole three displays once you've done that you're good to go but besides that there was also some really weird problems that we ran into with this build and that was to do with the motherboard and a weird thing that I've never seen before was we initially built the PC and I went to press power like I was getting the b-roll done and I went to get the power button shot and it just wouldn't turn on and at this stage I was just I was livid because the memory was lighting up the board looked like it was getting power and so usually that means you might have a dead motherboard on your hands and I said to myself no way this can't be possible because if it's a dead motherboard I gotta go then pull like literally everything out of this build and then replace the motherboard and so what I ended up doing was starting to go through the process of diagnosing problems and this is where things got even weirder because on Rison there is like a little bit of weird hack that if you've got the power left on and you insert a CPU then it will turn the computer on and so we tried doing this and the power just sort of drained out for a second and then went back on and I was like at this stage thinking yep I've definitely got a dead multiple because we tried taking the power switch out and sometimes the power switch itself on a case it's very rare I only usually have it happen on cheaper cases the power button can be faulty and it doesn't turn on in that case you can change it to the reset pon or you can use what I use and that's a little gold finger and use that to short out the power pin and try and boot it that way so we tried that first didn't work then we tried inserting the CPU that didn't work and then I just said to myself okay I'm gonna try change the memory and so change the memory around and miraculously it worked and I'm sitting there scratching my head like woah okay I've never had a board not boot and then you change the memory over and a boots like this I mean I have had it happen before it just doesn't boot but this is very weird anyway so we ended up changing the memory back to the Vengeance Pro and then it booted up fine so I was just left scratching my head but after that everything was then smooth and a good to go but one other thing I'll talk about with Rison is there is a problem that's been prevalent in practically every motherboard manufacturer across both the 300 series and the 400 series motherboards and that is when you've got an SSD installed and a hard drive install at the same time and then you try to install Windows on your computer if you install it on the SSD which is where you'd want to install Windows because it'll be faster snappy or etc it'll actually install the system reserve files on the hard drive and this happens so much unlike scratching my head again on why this is happening but if you do have this problem come up what you can do about it is identify it straight away by going into former hard drives and just seeing if C Drive has your system reserves if it doesn't you may wish to reformat your whole computer because the only way you're really getting head this is by reformatting new computer unfortunately I've tried doing a lot of different solutions didn't work now another problem that can come from that is also the hard drive if it's over 2 terabytes and it's got system reserve files on it then you won't be getting any more than 2 terabytes of storage out of that drive so there's another reason why you might want to reformat so when it comes to reforming the machine if you do have this problem on Rison what you can do about it is then just disconnect your hard drive when you're installing Windows install on the SSD once you're in Windows everything's fine turn it off connect the second hard drive up and then boot back into Windows format it and you should be all good to go so now we've got some questions about this build in particular on the video and there were some really good questions the first being why will we use a rise in CPU on World of Warcraft especially since it likes that single core higher core clock IPC and so you've got like a few people recommending the 83 50k which is absolutely fine but I found with this I wanted to try rising 5 on world Warcraft and not only that of course we've got the options there to overclock on a budget and I wanted to see what kind of price performance we could get rise and ran really well for what a Warcraft wants you overclocked it and more particularly 'king at that vengeance pro memory you have to get good ddr4 memory that goes to around 3200 megahertz at least with an XMPP profile you've got that your memories going to run really well Rison is going to be getting more performance and then we've got the CPU clocked at 4.1 gigahertz now taking it above that on a be 350 motherboard like the pro 4 it's a budget choice so I wouldn't expect it to go to 4.2 even though it probably could I wouldn't run it every day at those settings just because the motherboard itself isn't exactly the best but also another good question that came out of that video was what's the difference between the stock rising cooler and also the h-60 and on this particular build since this is six core 12 threaded Rison 12 nanometer cpu so i'm gonna be pushing out actually that much heat but when it does push out the heat when you overclock it it does need something better than the stock cooler to keep it under wraps and so the h-60 is gonna make a big difference over the stock cooler especially once you start going past gigahertz for example so in this case we're able to get that extra performance and use this cooler and the great thing is when you get a cooler like this you can port it from build to build or if you want to upgrade to an eight core 16 threaded Rison then you've got the option to keep that under wraps as well if you overclock it so I can't recommend coolers like that I'm also not just in the sense that you're going to get overclocked out of it right now but you can also keep using it as the future go forward and that about wraps up today's video if you guys enjoyed this one that be sure to hit that like button also we actually do get one more question about this case in particular the specular 5 and the airflow on the build and so if you are getting this case and you are putting higher-end components than what we did today then I would recommend maybe getting a couple of more fans at the front even possibly some fans at the top here and blowing air out of the case because it will get hot with the graphics card inside especially since it's not a reference blower model that's sucking air and blowing it out of the case but we did have the h-60 as we saw in the temperature test and that's actually pushing hot air out of the case as well so it's not only keeping the CPU cool but it's also working to help keep the case airflow better than it otherwise would be so we really didn't see the need in this case to put any extra fans in and when wargaming we didn't have any problems whatsoever - even when we overclocked the graphics card hopefully you guys gained some insight on NVIDIA surround and also some of the problems that go on here behind the scenes it's not always smooth sailing when it comes to doing these builds I got really frustrated setting this thing up initially and it was just a problem that as I said before that I've never seen before but also we did have problems trying to get world of warcraft installed where we copied it from the NASS and it wasn't being recognized and so I just bit the ball I'm like yep just read downloading it again and then we got it working after a few hours so usually it seems like Murphy's Law does hit me pretty hard when something can go wrong it usually does without a side I'll catch you guys in the next Tech video very soon peace out for now wait also the last thing I'm getting asked about after I did the set up video for some reason is this desk right here and I picked this up when I was building the studio a while back and we actually hustled this table so you like everything in the studio is pretty much been like a deal we got this for $150 for the whole desk itself and that was um essentially like when I went to the stores they were looking for at least half a grand for something that's like this thick and also of this quality so when I saw this I just had to pretty much put my hand on it give it a nice caressing and I realized it was really good desk and so of course it was really heavy but then we made a custom stand for it because the guy was only selling just the actual top itself so the stands were like 20 bucks and then I've never looked back since then so literally got an amazing desk for 1/3 at least a third of the price that you would get it for at the stores I don't know what make and model that is specifically I just saw it and I was like yep like this one and I'm getting it
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