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welcome back to tech yes city and this is the dark coming back to you guys today with a question that I get asked a lot lately and that is should i wait for broadwell or should I just pull the trigger now and go get a haswell cpu on a gaming rig and we're gonna do this over some heroes new earth gameplay as I love this game it's a lot of fun and ultimately this is done with shadow play as well but anyway let's get on with the topic the quick and dirty answer in is no but I'm going to elaborate on that and we're going to talk about what essentially is Broadwell broadwell is Intel's newest 14 nanometer die shrink it's essentially the tick in there tick-tock strategy now until themselves has said look we've got a strategy every two years we're going to tick-tock strategy where one year we release a die shrink the next year we release a architectural improvement and for me I'm more keen I'm always keen to see what the talk has because that's when you get the architectural improvement that's when you in my opinion can sometimes get a big performance increase as people saw with Sandy Bridge that was probably their best talk to date as well was not that impressive I thought has women in some instances it was actually slower than Ivy Bridge like for rendering and stuff but definitely when they doubled the case bandwidth that did help and I did find it did make an improvement for gaming so above all else it made an improvement for gaming so i can recommend has well over IV if you're a gamer and so essentially what you've got now is another thing to that when you went from IV to has well you had such really good motherboards i'm in the z87 platform line i mean the motherboard partners really stepped it up and they offered just everything that gamers want it on these on these on these platforms I mean they put all sort of three ports on there they put good anti-seize on board they put really good onboard audio on board and people were just like damn you z87 motherboards especially on a you know mid-range board come feature-packed and the good thing about the Haswell cpus and the IV cpus is that on a mid-range board you on air you didn't need any better than a mid-range board to sort of get that max of a clock out of your CPU so I think there's the 87 board as well and this is another reason why I'm not really going to be recommending the waiting for broadwell is because the z87 board is already really feature packed I don't see them adding much else the rumors are that the z97 platform is going to bring in a PCI Express SSD and hard drive support which will increase the bandwidth up to one gigabyte per second if you guys didn't know the side of three is currently maxed out at six gigabits per second which is essentially different 2 gigabytes if you were to put that in gigabyte terms it be like point 6 gigabytes per second so you can see that you're going to get a bit of an upgrade this would generally be for people who are really enthusiast minded in that they want to raid 2 SSDs together and get an apparent unit get higher transfer speeds out of their raid zeros for instance to samsung pros 8 40 s in this configuration would be beast so if you are that kind of person you'll probably be upgrading anyway but just for the general gamer on say a gtx 780 or a 780ti and a 467 tkr 477 TK and just like a 256gb SSD you generally not going to notice much of a difference in my opinion now another feature they're going to offer is until boot guard or something technology which i really i mean i think that's more of a server sort of feature i don't i'm not going to be using that I generally have no problems with my my data getting compromised there on my computer being compromised in any way so there's the two new features coming out and they're not really that sort of Wow in my opinion so the z97 platformer mean am I going to be upgrading probably because I make a lot of videos and you know I get some advertising cash out of their videos and it pretty much pays for itself so but honestly all's we're going to see this time is the tech and so we're going from 22 nanometer to 14 nanometer and with that you're going to get about i'm gonna guess maybe a seven percent improvement sort of in performance per clock and proven performance per cycle internal what is the IPC improvement so you're going to get about a seven percent increase in my opinion and the reason why it's going to be more than five percent is because we go from 22 to 14 and if you look at that in percentage drops i think it's about thirty-six percent that this is actually going to drop last time it went from 32 to 22 that was about thirty one percent in the actual size so it's actually pretty damn big like so thirty-six percent drop in die size is actually pretty damn big so i think the actual the IPC improvements going to be pretty decent but is it worth waiting out you know when's this chip going to be coming out and i honestly think it's going to be coming out in december rumors i was going to be coming out december and i agree i think until if you guys in 0 rd that lower like the small of these chips go the the more expensive rd gets i mean these things like until have to fork out an absolute load of cash for rd so it's in their best interests to delay these chips as much as they can that's just my opinion on it so this is our mean AMD really not bringing any anything to the table so until aren't really getting pressured to bring these chips of the market as soon as they can so i think you're going to see the tick-tock strategy is going to be more like a 2.9 year cycle now because I mean Ivy Bridge was already delayed under over bridge wasn't delayed sorry it was has walled it was delayed three months past its expected date and I think they're gonna push this one another three months and so expect to see I mean you guys can expect to see something like yeah December that looks pretty solid in my opinion December late December 2014 so I think that's when broadwell is going to come out I mean it could come out a bit earlier but the fact that Intel hasn't confirmed any release dates already is a fact I think in my opinion that we're not going to get it soon that's just something to sort of be mindful of so if you know what is it now it's March so do you want to honestly wait another eight months nine months for a CPU I don't think it's worth it i mean considering already considering that Haswell chips I already can't come down in price from their initial release price I mean they come at they're going out for about two hundred dollars now or two hundred nine dollars if you're in the states I mean I picked mine up for about 240 I believe I actually forgot I'm it might have been cheaper to 20 but definitely the motherboards and the z87 sort of the motherboards and the cpu user definitely at a decent price at the moment so you can pick one up and you and the good thing is that this time around two if you're really desperate to get broad well you can I'm pretty sure you're going to be able to use the z87 platform to use broad well I mean it's going to be the same socket it's going to be the LGA 1150 so that's going to be no problems at all I mean if they did make it z97 only than damn and i really like i would probably write and go to an intel building and go what the hell you would release one motherboard for one cpu only that's just disgraceful but I mean I think yeah I think you're definitely going to be able to use your z87 platform with broad well so I don't think that's going to be a problem just a bios update and you're good to go so definitely yes so I mean if you want to wait if you definitely want to get on broad well then I don't think you can have a problem with the z87 motherboard so that's one thing to remember now another reason why I believe how me sorry Broadwell is going to be delayed is until need time to get haswell-e out I mean if they're releasing broadwell before Haswell ease out then they know that that's costing themselves market share right i mean this is this is a sort of they've sort of i think that's sort of competing with themselves because people will go out and they'll get the 57 70 k and if it's released before haswell-e they've just essentially you know instead of trying to sell an eight-core they've essentially just costs themselves maybe $400 whatever because they can't sell a house Wally chip now because that guy's on the leads Broadwell so I think they're going to let haswell-e come out before broadwell this time I think that's in how to in Intel's best interest as a company so be interesting to see but yeah that's that so anyways I hope you enjoyed this I mean honestly I personally if I was building a gaming pc today I wouldn't wait out you know but at the end of the year I mean if you're on it like say a decent gaming pc at the moment like gtx 580 or say a 69 50 or something like that then maybe i would wait out because maxwell will be coming out around the same time as Broadwell so that that's probably the only person i would recommend waiting out if you were in that position where you're like look I only upgrade every three years or so three or four years and I've already got a pretty decent gaming rig I would probably wait out for Broadwell and Maxwell together because that'll pack a punch so that's just my opinion for you guys and yeah hope you enjoyed it if you have any questions please let me know in the comment section below and I'll be coming back to you guys soon sorry I'm gonna talk about a few other things quickly and that is audio I'm sorry but I've just got a heap of audio gear to test and I'm just gonna get through it all and then I'm gonna slash quit audio because i'm kind of bored I'm over it I'm really not an audio enthusiast and just you know like good audio but you know I don't wake up in the morning going on damn i want to listen to music i wake up in the morning going down on play video games eat some good food and you know that's me or drive drive a car sir now that they're my two passions is cars and video games but you know yet so i'm going to be getting these audio videos done i'm sorry but you just want to get it through it and there's / quit it and we won't come back to audio again and also yeah the titanium HD speaking of audio i'm actually recording on it now so let me know what you guys think if the audio is better if it's richer i'm not too sure but i'm recording on a new ADC essentially through the same preamp in the same Mike so let me know what you guys think and I can't wait to give you guys more videos anyway if you like this video please give me a please give me a thumbs up greatly appreciate it and if you haven't really subscribe to take your city and I'll become about to you guys soon so yeah essentially if you are waiting if you have a decent gaming rig already and you want to wait for a broad well sort of broad well maxwell combo then i probably would wait out but if you are if you have a really bad gaming pc or you don't have a gaming pc at all then it's going to be like a nine-month wait so I probably wouldn't wait personally so that's that guys and I'll peace out for now see you later bait