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TechTalk Episode 6 - 60hz Vs 120hz Monitors (What FPS can humans see?)

2013-02-07
hey YouTube what's up this is baronies you just coming back to you guys today with episode 6 of tech talk and what a big one we have today we've got 120 Hertz vs. 60 Hertz AKA 120 frames per second versus 60 frames per second as an individual can you tell the difference and should you buy a 120 Hertz monitor now guys I'm going to address this in an unbiased way personally i do have 120 hertz monitor i can notice the difference but i'm going to let you guys remember this one point about this whole thing is that everybody is different okay so every to set no two sets of eyes are the same unless of course you're an identical twin then that's kind of different story but the first thing i'm going to address guys let's go to this side okay this is going to be the easiest way to test if you want to get 120 hertz modern you're thinking about it go to this website do this test okay it's called frames per second spot calm and i'll put the link in the description go here guys you can test out 30 frames per second 60 frames per second and obviously if you're on a 60 hertz monitor you're not going to need 120 frames per second so we can chop that off but you can chest here and just look obviously with the 30 frames per second you can see the choppiness and this since this video is going to appear on youtube which is rendered at 30 frames per second anyway the bottom one's going to look choppy as well but for me the 60 frames per second looks a lot better than the 30 frames per second and but i can still notice the choppiness it's still there so if i turn this up to 120 so we want to leave off motion blur because no games use motion blog that's for film I'll get into that later but basically the 120 frets hurts frame the 120 Hertz ball it looks better for me okay I look at this and I'm like yeah I can notice the difference between the 60 Hertz ball and 120 Hertz ball and if you guys can get on 120 Hertz monitor and try this out then do it otherwise just look at the 60 Hertz ball and if you can notice that it's doing little chops on the screen it's doing little chops it's doing little stroke i think they call it strobing and if you notice that the ball is strobing slightly then maybe you are a good candidate to go and buy 120 Hertz monitor I definitely can see it so for me i bought the hunt this is why i bought 121 its monitor so anyway let's move on to the next point and obviously first i'm going to say guys it was such a hard decision okay because the 60 hertz 1440p IPS panel is absolutely gorgeous okay so it was such a tough call for me to make the fluidity of the 1080p 120 Hertz or the the beauty of the 1440p IPS panel so for me it was really hard call I went with 120 Hertz because I like gaming competitively that's something I like to do I want to game the best I can so I get 120 days models for me so anyway let's go on to you guys I let's throwing out recommendations later anyway this is the next time military Navy pilots you've probably heard this you've done some research of your own on the matter you've probably everyone's throwing out military pilots navy pilots and basically what I want to stress here guys is as you get older your acuity declines or the quality of your vision declines a case of these guys and your reaction speeds decline as well so obviously maybe if you're approaching your mid-40s or you're going into your 50s you may wish to just go with the 60 Hertz monitors you might not notice the difference between 120 and 60 Hertz however for me I'm still I'm 27 years old but I know as I get older my acuity will decline it's just natural that's that's just how humans are so you want to maybe look at your age that's an important thing and realistically guys I'm not joking is I'm just realistically looking at the matter how old you are depends and these guys these did they did tests on the Navy pilots and all that and they found that as the Navy pilots were older an age their reaction speeds declined and also their acuity their quality of acuity declined as well in this graph so the majority of people were here but then obviously had it and another thing to take out of this so the average some some people were getting point 15 of the second reaction times that's really that's huge anyway that's really that's pretty fast anyway so if we go down to acuity here one thing to take out of this graph is basically the more bright or the more brighter your monitor is in the higher contrast your monitor has the better it's going to look so keep that in mind as well so that's something that comes out of this test as well so that's a good thing i like that i looked into this test and they'll summer that's good there's a lot of good research here and another point i want to raise up is do you play games when you're tied if you're a tired person and you sleep deprived a bit of a joke but if you and if you're not playing games when you are aware alert than you're missing out because as you can see here they did tests on more pilots and the simple motor simple motor complex mode of visual perception it all gets impaired as you get more tired okay so remember that you want to play games you want to play games the best that you can play games when you're not tired guys okay so the next point I'm going to move on to guys is this one I really take this with a grain of salt because I couldn't actually find the actual solid research to support it and it was someone like they did experiments 1 220 eighth of a second and the pilots were able to consistently see the after image and identify it so that was pretty impressive so basically if you put this into layman terms it's the pilots could basically c 220 frames per second so i mean that's pretty interesting but remember the guys Navy pilots are elite okay they're like the elite of the elite okay they're healthy individuals their eyes are brilliant so that's something to take out that so anyway let's go this is another really cool thing guys I want you to go here and I want you to check it out blind spots did you actually know that behind our nerves like behind our eyes we have the nerve which actually blocks part of our vision and basically since we have two eyes they each help each other out so this effect doesn't occur if you've got both eyes open but if you close one eye for instance if I close my right eye and I'm just using my left eye I want to look at the right so if I got my if I close my eye right eye I'm gonna look at the right dot and as I go in so I'm going to move in with you guys live the actual plus symbol it actually blanks out it's really crazy and the funny thing is my mouse cursor actually disappears as well it's really crazy and I just when I looked at this I was like what the hell so basically the blind spot on our eyes our brain actually makes up that information and puts in just okay this is just going to be green here which is going to pop some green in there no worries yeah you're not gonna be able to tell the difference so I was like huh okay my blant brains playing tricks on me stupid brain so that's something to remember that's something just that's a really cool thing that I found while researching this whole topic anyway let's go on to a guy's lightest actives actually this is one of the funniest things was when I was researching this I was looking for have people tested this effect and now Linus went on and he got his friend to do blind tests on this 120 Hertz monitor and his friend is a pretty young guy could not tell the difference so i'll put the link in the description below you can watch the video and now he couldn't tell the difference however Linus he tested it and he could tell the difference five out of five times he told which one was 60 Hertz which one was 120 which was impressive and for me I could tell the diff I know I could tell the difference as well and it's because of this guy's i want to point you to this brain plasticity ok so i'll put the links to the Linus videos in the description below great research I love how he did an actual test to do that it's really cool and it just goes to show that some people can notice the difference some people can't but I think another thing to remember is is what your brain gets trained to do so if you're always seeing in the night time your brain is naturally going to get better at seeing in the nighttime your visions not going to improve but you're just going to get used to seeing at night time now the same with 120 frames per second this is what I believe ok since i've been using 120 frames per second every time I game I'm used to it ok I'm trained to now be used to 120 frames per second so maybe even if you can't notice a difference and you try out 120 frames say you try it for a week and then you go back to 60 Hertz I'm pretty positive you will notice a difference so if I drop my monitor if I change my settings back to 60 Hertz I've done it once and I just changed it straight away because what I noticed was my mouse cursor actually got really slow lady got choppy I was like oh god I can't do this i got isn't going to change him back and so I did it straight away I changed it back to 120 Hertz and I never looked back at that but I want to share this with you guys so brain plasticity your brain is getting trained at like my brain has already been trained at 120 Hertz and that's what I think exactly what's happened in Linus's video he's used to playing at 120 Hertz therefore he can tell the difference and so I think it's it's not about Ken Linus count 120 frames or can I count 100 20 frames in one second hell no I couldn't do that what it's about is noticing the difference as a gamer can you notice the difference and now I'm going to so that about wraps it up in terms of solid research that I can find I'm going to go a little bit off topic and talk about persistence of vision which is in is in favor of the 60 Hertz it basically says that we basically we get an image and that image is imprinted in our brain for a short amount of time roughly Oh point zero four of a second so what that means is is that yeah we see an image it gets imprinted in our brain and we kind of remember it for a little bit we get the next image and it helps smooth things out so honestly they they have debunked this and they've called it a myth I I honestly don't know as I believe guys we are biological species and so we can't test a biological species with mechanical means and we have no means of testing biological species yet as there's no biomech sort of test bed that we can apply to a human's vision that makes any sense but yeah if anything to get out of this whole argument guys is that no one exactly knows how many frames per second an individual can see because we are biological species and we see in a completely different way as to a mechanical way so anyway let's have a look at the wagon wheel this is pretty cool like it movies a shot at 25 24 frames per second right and so when we turn 120 my heart monitors 120 frames and when I have this thing going at 120 rpm even on a 60 Hertz model would be the same but it shows the floor in 24 frames and the just look the wheel just looks like it's still so it's just stupidly and that's that's the thing with 24 frames per second it's a weakness basically and here it is you guys can see it for yourself go here if you want to put the description and i'll put the link in the description below basically it shows the 24 frames per second just staying completely still I was just like okay hmm but what I want to point out is had this will been going at 120 frames per second it would look completely different and so would a normal wheel on a car in daylight so if you guys go outside and you look at a car wheel you'll see that it's moving you'll never see this effect unless it's low light or its poor light I don't think so anyway but you see it in movies frequently because of this effect so if we move it up a bit it'll be going backwards so that's what you see in the movies the 24 frames is causing this so anyway guys that's a cool thing to check out if you want to now lastly people ask me for some 120 Hertz monitor recommendations now guys honestly make your own mind up about 120 Hertz versus 60 Hertz you have to be the judge okay I can't do this for you okay because that is just wrong and I think it is wrong when people say oh I can only I can't notice the difference therefore you can't notice the difference and I and it's vice versa as well I can notice the difference so you should notice the difference now I'm going to come back to everyone liked my analogy last time so I'm going to come back with a different analogy this time everyone knows the jealous friend okay so be mindful of the jealous friend they look there there guys trust me so when you want to buy that 120 Hertz monitor and you can notice if you go to that website and you can see that 60 frames per second is a little bit choppy and you can notice that and you're like yep I'm going to get 120 miles mana don't listen to that jealous friend you know what he's like he's like he bought his 60 Hertz monitor and he's like secretly he noticed the difference he's like yeah tried 120 Hertz monitor I could see the difference but god damn it I made the wrong purchase decision I can't take my monitor back now and he's like doing that he's like died man don't get 120 Hertz model that you can't notice the difference you can't notice it man you can't do it you kind I didn't notice it it's just stupid humans can't see behind beyond 60 frames per second year at that time you like geez man why is this guy getting over reactive about this whole situation it's just 120 Hertz monitor man it's just two hundred and fifty dollars it's not like the end of the world so you're probably thinking that to yourself and this guy's like and you're like oh just you know okay I'll try them out I'll test him out see which one I like and then you change the topic and then you come back and he's like he's just like I meant 120 Hertz monitor don't buy he's like still going on at that point in time you know that guy is just super jealous he is just like he's just like wheeling so at that point in time guys if you know if that jealous friend is out there and he's trying to influence you to go with the poor choice you say to him man you know what I'm just going to try the 100 it's modern that time he is going to be just like Oh is going to be more jealous than a fat kid watching spiderman he's going to be more jealous than Keanu Reeves watching himself on the matrix guys he is going to be so jealous and you have to rub it in you have to be like 120 Hertz oh yeah oh yeah baby but goes anyway that's the jealous friend okay so don't listen to the jealous friend when you were to buy your monitor by your monitors so with that being said I'm going to pop out some recommendations guys for 120 Hertz monitors for 144 hurts monitor this is the latest one coming out from a Zeus it's actually a 27 inch monitor which is probably a little bit too big but it's 144 hurts so it's just huge it's I think this is designed for pro gamers okay so pro gamers definitely need this you know it's that little competitive you map thinking does just a couple of milliseconds but it can matter okay in a competitive tournament that two milliseconds can make a difference guys so that's the one you might want to think of this is the monitor I personally have it's the samsung s 23 700d which is a gloss panel so even though it looks matt here it's actually a gloss coating and it looks beautiful guys so it's your choice you can get the mat or you can get the gloss I love gloss personally that's just me as a person I made that decision myself and you guys can be the judge of that okay so go try these things this is a great monitor I got this at 120 Hertz it's a true hundred twenty earth it's awesome monitor cost me about $300 and it's worth every penny it is just a beautiful even though it's a tan panel trust me it looks phenomenal for a TN panel now the next recommendation i'll throw out there is the bank uxl 2 420 T this is quite expensive as you guys can see it's 120 Hertz as well let's say I think it's a matte coating on it and it's yeah it's got some good specs on it it's so pretty much the same specs as the Samsung as well so there's three good monitors i can think of there's a lot more out there and obviously guys the most important thing is is that yeah way up do that test okay find that do that test see if you can notice the difference and obviously for me it was a hard choice between because the 1440p IPS panel is beautiful go check it out go down the stores try them both out see which one you like for me the 1080p 120 hertz was better so hey guys i hope you enjoyed this episode of tech talk episode 6 if it's one thing to get out of this is that no one knows how many frames we can actually see it in a mechanical basis because we're biological beings anyway guys I gonna have my gyro I got requests to do a gyro build that is going to be coming soon I'm going to give a 500 and a thousand euro build so stay tuned for those also a 500-pound budget bill will be coming out soon and also a five-hundred-dollar Ozzy builds going to be coming out soon hey i'm going to give you guys that much love so can i get a thumbs up and if you haven't already can i get a sub because it's hard to get a sub nowadays it takes a lot to get us off nowadays i think i'm doing the research i think i'm trying to explain it as best as i can I kind of deserve it sob anything yeah okay hey guys my wife says I should cut my hair soon what do you guys think do I need a haircut is this kind of getting crazy I don't know let me know guys anyway guys for now peace out for now and
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