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we are live right about now welcome to tech wall TV episode 7 I'm joined by the G but we escaped we escaped the R in the e go straight to the G GG I'm joined by GG from science studio how you doing man I am doing all right how's it going over there Sunday what Sunday midday for you yes Sunday midday just been so productive man it's been absolutely crazy this last week I haven't stopped right so I'm preparing for a little bit of a holiday as well and during that holiday I want to keep the viewers entertained that when we're over in Italy we're gonna get Austrian and Japan there's three pots hunts coming too so people are gonna get excited it's gonna be cracking and then when I get back I don't know what's going on after that no plans how about you my man I'm lucky to get out once a week and that's usually just to buy groceries oh so you travel oh wow so you do a one week you do one leg splurge kind of thing just stock the fridge and the freezer up with them - right - you get hot on the dim simps oh the pot is meat pies meat pies no we do like hot pockets chicken nuggets like the quick microwave nails right just the stuff that ten bucks it'll last for two weeks you know they're gonna know it really cheap dude like I live well within my means huh say you are a deal hunter then you just you don't really go much into it okay well people want to see you deal hunt man let's see what Greg's made off so but we'll get we've the other tech news out of the way first and then we can sort of come back and talk a little bit with the audience as well see what's cracking with them see if they've got any questions as well but first up we got here that of course the big news going around 32 cores 64 threads the thread Ripper as well news that it's going to be released on August 13th and this is coming from WCF tech retweeted it from twig town and we're looking at here it will work on X 3 9 9 X we know this from Computex but some companies like horas are releasing the motherboards refreshed motherboards that obviously don't need a BIOS update they have a beefier VRM better vrm I've said that twice and what we're looking at too with the pricing is rumored anywhere from 1,500 to 2,000 USD so what do you think about this do you think the pricing is about right do you think we're going to get this CPU in on August 13th and it's gonna be priced around 1,500 to 2,000 I personally think we're getting closer to 2000 surely AMD couldn't sell their 32 cord that cheap I mean yeah that's one of them I mean like when you think about 32 cores like that's a ton I mean it you can overclock those likely I mean that's there's just too many cores to even fathom like what are you gonna do now if you utilize all 32 for just the average Joe are you gonna do with this course that's a lot of cool right there like videos at the same time you probably good like like not joking man I mean the 18 core I tried that out and that was just way too much as well I was a lot 32 cause if you know of course there's going to be people out there that can utilize those cores and threads yeah it's gonna represent the nominal value for money for those folks out there but um I mean how much is gonna be priced I mean I think I'd like to see AMD charge more like that's honestly I'd like to see em charge more for this it's a premium item its flagship and it's gonna be beating to come the competitors product I mean all the guys are 28 29 that's what I'm thinking about two grand I mean yeah it's still that's still cheap that's what I'm saying I mean that's what you get the 79 80 XE for right I mean that's a what 8 18 yeah yeah I'm using that right now yeah it I mean to fathom the difference that I mean 18 is already a ton yeah right and then to get literally almost twice that amount in a CPU that cost the same and I mean overclocked ability aside like having 32 cores is just overkill for 99.99% of people out there anyway yeah I mean to me that's it's it's gonna be a good value with respect to those people who are gonna know what to do to utilize them you know like people who program who compile all those you know heavy intensive workloads they're gonna be able to utilize whatever you throw at it they're gonna be fine but yeah people are gonna struggle to take advantage of that many cores it's just a showpiece law it something us a lot but of course there will be people that could utilize it I mean what what the good thing is as they say in this article I mean you're looking at some of Intel's really higher-end Zeon's cost like $9,000 and that's on Amazon right now so Amazon and like showing how expensive these CPUs are it's a really disruptive process that AMD of making here though what they're saying is so true when I went to their events they're saying they're just bringing in the competition and they're bringing it in hard and it's so good because the end the end user wins whether you like Intel or AMD you got to pray props to this and yes the comments I do a great judge are so underrated as well you know it doesn't get much attention but so I take care of them and but 33 for 64 threads it's that like I'm so curious to see what pricing they're gonna use with this that's where everything is the the eyes on the pricing here because it's gonna be flagship Intel really won't have something that will come close to it and it's gonna be hopefully you can get it for key cuts on 32 cores that'd be fantastic yeah that's what I'm reading the comments here but people speculating what they think you can get it at xfr or just dismantle overclocking it voltage power delivery looks like this is a 10 plus 3 phase but the good thing and that's why risin is so good right you look at the 18 core I didn't really want to push that past 4 gigahertz but we look at the other variants the tank or you could get that 4.5 gigahertz you can start to see it does even though it's the mess-up mesh architecture still starts to scale off a bit rise ins just got those separate dies tied in with the Infinity fabric and that's what makes a 4 gigahertz are obtainable with even 32 core 64 threads so AMD did plan for the future and that's where they're going with that so and Daniel says do I live in the new studio and yeah I do I also we've got some comments last week sorry when I bumped you off Greg when the donors came in yet people were like having it go at me then I think one you have the pitchfork out as well for me so I just never I'll never hold it again yeah I just said like I just said isn't it like when you stream isn't it common light practice to answer donation straight away like I thought that was like every streamer I what does that so yeah I mean we're all gonna do like what I do is usually like if because they're always delayed right like someone will donate to you and then ask a question that's what I encourage people to do on when I live stream and then you know by the time I notice it right there watching it and I'm already delayed because when they send the note the donation you know they're watching a live stream that has maybe a 10 20 second buffer to it so it's gonna be delayed no matter what but usually what I'll do is just finish my own point and then look back at the chain if there are a couple donations I'll address them but yeah I usually address them right they can write at the time I get them so don't worry about that rock on okay so next article we've got up here is the X 3 9 9 as well it's kind of confirming now so I previously I heard about 24 cores being the max but this slide here pretty much confirms we're getting 6 32 cores 64 threads on X 399 now I did see this motherboard at Computex it was there refresh X 399 motherboard and it was indeed extreme like though gone all out with this thing to 8 pins it was just it's you know ducks nuts it's absolutely crazy even I think they're putting it 10 gigabits per second Ethernet on board which I do want to critique straight away like when you're looking at 10 Gigabit Ethernet when you're whacking it on motherboards I'd watch mother watch mother men my English is terrible today dude I'm gonna stumbled tumble all through this live stream but when you're putting a 10 gigabit snick on board your motherboard you're basically taking the value way of having your own dedicated solution like I did critique this and I started to create this with asrock because you just go out buy your own card for a hundred bucks and then poured it over from motherboard the motherboard and the value you know if you're not using it the value you're wasting the value because I'm sure a lot of people would just want to buy this motherboard the fact that it has the new BIOS in there they can get the 32 cores they've got that beefy vrm but then they're gonna be overpaying for that Tang gigabits per second solution so I mean what do you think there yeah I mean it's the same you're gonna be limited ultimately by what I would think your IP or ISP I see a lot of people down here talking about like why are there three Ethernet ports like why would you want three lamport's on a motherboard and you some of them are you know you can duplex them I heard through put the good stuff but ultimately I mean like what I usually do because I live in an apartment right I don't have every wall connected to a jack that I can running from my modem from a switch so I have most of these that are outside of the main room connected via Wi-Fi so I've already got a pretty you know the performance degradation there's already pretty existent um I've never really been like all you know excited about 10 gigabits I know that was something that was on was it the supercarrier I think it was one of the board's I reviewed from asrock a while back that had the I don't know if it was five gigabits or 10 gigabit so that I was mentioning there you know this is just something that I think is for a very niche market and that's really how this whole platform is set up it's designed that way right you only buy this if you want to be that guy it's the best of the best yeah oh yeah I mean it would look weird it's like having a really like nice you know sports car with like the trashiest set of rims that you've ever seen you know like just having all these extra features just to kind of blend in with the CPU the socket the power delivery vrm all the good stuff just kind of makes it cohesive so you think they just doing it because they can it's the best bond and they've got all the yet you get you're getting leather seats on this thing as well oh yeah whether your bucks for this board yeah they'll charge easily half half a grand for this board you know and and that's and so you don't want to give any buyer a potential buyer a reason to doubt the price right so you don't want to have any weak points you don't want to have any selling points that just seem lackluster and just touting 10 gigabits just sounds way better apparently than touting five kick of its actually man that's well as going into with the deal hunting as well like the more I get into it the more I realize numbers cell species forget about 2 LED fans 4 LED fans that sells like I'm serious man whoa Mike did you imagine you spell it out do you spell out the word for fo you are you're in dude I know you write the number people love numbers so for Ellie yeah and what you do is you put it in there and then this kid you could you picture this kid he's gonna run to his mom as soon as he sees that ad like mom it's got LED fans gonna buy it now bang you get the call is it still available and you know exactly but as soon as you hear that is it still available in that desperate voice you're like damn I'm getting an asking price for this the same thing is somebody else I'm working with you know like if you come across like you desperately want something don't expect to haggle too much with this hi guys I guess a comment as well got some cool comments as well people love in the content especially the use price performance like I said that's hard that's the heart and soul of the channel everything's staying the way it is I also got a hard night drinking know if I look tired guys we would literally like me and my video editor work out like just driving around just doing one hour drives and stuff dropping off PCs really hustling you know even a Friday night who cares people need pcs we're doing it you know so it's really cool like I just love this gig man behind the scenes as well I wish I could just set up a livestream camera for people and just do live streaming like all the stuff that goes on behind the scenes because I just don't have time to edit and video all of it you know what I mean otherwise the studio is you saw in the previous vlog I did that's what will happen it'll just like crap we'll just pile up and pile up and I've got to do a lot of stuff behind the scenes to move that and keep things going but it'd be so much fun to just livestream it and then you wouldn't have to edit and do all this stuff with videos so I don't know anyway yeah when we're over in the States like apparently I'm going I've been have the tickets not booked yet but I'll be over in the States in August next month latent late next month so perhaps we could go on a little deer hunt maybe it's just putting it out there sounds really fun yeah and I'm driving your car as well oh is that so yeah and I'm gonna thrash it and then when I'm done with it the tappets are gonna be ringing so hard you me like damn like but have you ever had there's so many computers man in that car it's so difficult like I'll spin the wheels in second year right like it's it doesn't grip very well considering but the traction control like just the computers monitoring the wheel spin the you know the limited slip diff distributing power to different wheels you know differently torque vectoring whatever you want to call it it just there's so much technology that at this point any newer car that's gonna be rear-wheel drive it's just you got to turn off like 10 different things to get your your back-end to kind of flail out you know like I've really tried and it's even with traction control off you can't like that car just wants to stay straight how 50 it ties to 45 I want to say 255 Alta Jack should whack some 285 zon there and you're not going anyway they're staggered though like the rears are bigger they're noticeably bigger than the front yeah but I mean that's it's just I don't think they're big enough really and they have an all-wheel drive model but terrible tires on the all-wheel drive so okay if you've ever done that in the past if you have it lent someone your car and it came back totally okay well I would never let anyone my god well I did you know back when I was a teenager you first car someone borrows it whatever and then yeah it comes back and you're like damn this gearbox feels a little funny clutch just feels like Oh existing anymore my dad he had somebody I think he paid somebody to cut his lawn or something one time yeah and he we came back from vacation and there was just this big ol hole like on the side of the frame I mean this is metal and this isn't plastic it's like a metal frame that houses the blade you know there's just a hole like a rusted out hole that somehow got there in a week I don't know chemistry that well but like I'm pretty sure rust doesn't take place in a week probably had some special formula like salt water the hairdryer and just like really it's based on the process yeah and they give it anyway this car came back so screwed up like I'm pretty sure from memory we were changing gears without even sticking the clutch in anymore like it was that much yeah like you just there was no difference and we're like damn and there's only a thousand dollar car so it's like the good thing is guys if you're out there and you're young please make sure you spend little to no money on your first car because you're gonna ruin it that's a good advice yeah and then once you make all your mistakes then you cannot step things up to a better car and also get a tank get a beefy car that's not gonna let you down as well it's yeah I'm ever crashing into a pool one time like it was it was pretty funny so it good old straight poles you know I was there pretty strong but it back to back to tech news back to the tech museum next time we we got 7 nanometre Vega 20 is coming with 20 teraflops of computational power with a 70% reduction in die size so apparently going down seven nanometer but they're not bringing this out to the consumer gamer GPUs for quite some time but they're bringing this out next week apparently prices are still unconfirmed and apparently is gonna surf is that the right word that is sir absolutely you know so you know we did sneak in and sort of take the Thunder away from Nvidia with their Tesla V 100 which currently has 15.7 teraflops of computational power like if you have you sort of ready I mean of course a lot of people would love to get their hands on this and tested for gaming just like they did with Nvidia's new GPU there they never released to the public was it tight and tightened v was it tightened v yeah tense recorders yeah and they that was more powerful but it was $3,000 and great I'm sure some people will be doing this just to see the potential of the next generation now but again drivers is a big issue AMD of probably not even gonna bother really programming the sector gaming yeah optimization on the developer side too I mean just you know the gaming side that's what we saw with Vegas 64 being such a flop people saw the tee flop now and they're like whoa you know thirteen point seven or whatever teraflop that was the highest teraflop you know floating-point precision ever in a consumer-grade graphics card that wasn't you know $5,000 but you know while it was a great computer like a great multitasker a very workhorse oriented it wasn't a great gamer I mean not not considering what people expected it to be it was around 1080 territory which the price reflected that so you can't really knock on Vegas 64 for that but I think people overhyped it because all they looked at was a tee flop count and just said well you know this looks like a really powerful graphics card and then woops nope it's just about on par with a 1080 which is a much lower you know teraflop value sighs yeah it's kind of hard to just judge straight up from these figures here how efficient these cards will be in gaming it'll be fun to test but I think this is more or less AMD flexing back right at Nvidia for doing the same thing with Titan v yes we did get a quick dynamic wait until you finished talking say guys I'm learning okay someone praised I learned so I got a donation from Brian bps cosmides Brian as well with an i/o and he said when am I going to the US do some PC he said I can borrow his comment no no I said no I can't oh so I can't drive his car too ok so I'm not the guy I was just joking before I'm not the guy that's gonna take your car and thrash it I Drive it carefully I Drive anyone's car carefully I'm not a thrashing man come on you're either a Thrasher or you're a care taker look at how I treat the use Potts I take care of them same deal with you car if you lend it to me it's gonna get taken care of but yeah we can do some parts honey man I'll see how we go I do want to like I'd love to roadtrip the states ultimately just rent some car roadtrip do like Matty and road trip through the states and just pots on that'd be pretty cool fractal Josh to hook you up with that Hertz rental no yeah I don't really talk to fractal that much like I did a review for them but that was through another retailer and I was like it had to go they are they big in Australia like do you you see lot of practice out of them not really it's more of an acquired taste and I was like it's definitely more towards late you know is it's more Corsair Coolermaster you know and then you've got the budget choices like wrote Amiens from msy which people just don't care because they just want cheapest case possible I said like the marketing like is it is it just you don't see a lot of their cases marketed on Ozzie sites this is a price trainer you know as people just want the best price like best values cause these are always about that value man so you've got like I mean course that did hit pretty hard with their 570 X I think like had all the RGB control RGB fans tempered glass people saw that as a flagship case for a good price and when that came along that's sort of like really and the H 500 P you know that's behind the scenes that's getting a really good rep and thanks Nate as well great I'm doing a great stream yet Nate's in discord as well he's a he's a moderator so we've got um sorry H 500 P that was nice had the to RGB fans it looked nice airflow is pretty good like I saw the temperatures on that thing it wasn't bad it's not all about cranking your fans up to a hundred percent speed and then seeing how ditch how much of a detriment they are a lot of times I'll have my fans just running quiet but getting still good airflow yeah so I don't know I don't know cases that just try it and if you try it and you like it buy it so yeah I think it's mostly aesthetic in their cases out there that are not very well designed clearly yeah from a functional standpoint from an airflow standpoint in price to performance in that respect features but what I usually regard when I look at cases is just the aesthetic factor like is it how is how is this gonna make my parts look better you know what can I do to make this look unique and not so mainstream presentation it means it's a is this case gonna allow me to flip this pace a quick oh that's pretty much the same comes yeah I'm gonna live it but is that presentation is that like you like this is the case just about like showing off the inside making sure it looks pretty for people having that left you know a tempered glass or you know whatever panel you got there and people can see inside of or just like you know it's a much of a muchness man I find just LED fans you don't even have to have RGB you just have to pick a color Reds usually the best I like red it's subtle it's not too in-your-face but it does look very sexy so it all depends man I might have to do a video on which which color sells the best red versus blue versus green I'd be pretty funny we put up the same PC three different ads and then we see which one sells first I reckon red would sell first cuz you know why yeah do you know why though runs maybe fastest hey Pepsi its red is the color of impulse my friend of impulse yeah really yes psychology hmm this marketing man red is that's why I love red red is just like it that's why the backgrounds are red like you see the red background here people want to quickly watch the stream so smart not me not not really I just like red as well amazing couple bit red is the color of impulse so if you're doing cheap items or sort of budget items always use red in your marketing any way you can so blue is the colour of trust so if this was a blue background people would probably trust my news source more it's just subliminal marketing never use and then and then yellows like the colour friendly don't like yellows like you know hahaha so you probably see a lot of streamers using yellow if they're smart just too especially I mean actually not going to say probably triggers some sjw's especially female stream you know get some get some dudes nee like a the friendly get yellow you know welcoming in here no problems so yeah that's that's marketing I love Martin me there's a lot more to it you know people think oh yes man sister dumbass who got a dumpster trash got a PC parts on it there's a lot more to me man than that don't worry I've never learned that mmm where I took two but this is my third marketing class I haven't they don't talk about stuff like that in our classes I mean this is all about like I don't know just how to sell products but like not on like a personal though it's more about like mass selling right look working for a big company not on small scale I imagine that would be something we'd focus on if we did like a micro marketing class that sounds really cool so yeah also back on that so we'll just quickly finish off this news then we can go to the comments section as well so 7 nanometre Vega of course the teraflops performance may be there but it's not always just about this number would you agree it's not that's usually never I mean yeah we've seen this so much in the past where people just flaunt these tea flops numbers and then like yeah Vega came out Vega 64 Vega 56 came out and just got hammered so really won't lose there's a lot of sort of behind the scenes stuff that goes into optimization but 7 nanometre is impressive I love what AMD did with the RX 470 and 480 they're easily 2 of my favorite cards from AMD in the last few years they're really they were really nice and they're still nice to this day they're still awesome and then the 580 and the 570 came out it was like much of a muchness I still even when those cards came out I did prefer the 417 480 that what we got here is the rx 580 lot speaking of the 580 last news source here apples releasing a MacBook Pro external GPU and it'll cost you $6.99 so I mean we just want to have a bit of fun here a bit of fun here straight away the first thing that comes to my mind is okay guys mining craze is done we got a heap of our x5 80s to get rid of how can we sell them oh I know just advertise some fancy Mac external box look at the marketing and get a return on that you they're gonna get a hundred percent return well two hundred percent of you I mean are you looking at this photo here so proud I mean the Lighting's perfect that girls like getting into it now that she's got an Rx 580 box here that costed us $6.99 she's like wired in like she's serious that doesn't look like it's widen it all just sitting there but it's placebo right now she's got it there she can now seriously do it work and this guy he's like he's a dude that looks like you that's like it's funny though that's your last you and the end like you're helping this chick out yeah and you and Apple dude can spirit we're going straight into conspiracy theory this is a Gregg Salazar is a Mac shill this is this crap this is it dude that is Gregg like I'm I'm a hundred percent set and that is you in that photo dude you know you know he's really putting out you've been caught out what are you gonna say you if you look at her screen like I don't know I haven't used violent cut pearl in a in a while yeah but what she's running there on her screen is that Final Cut Pro it's not say man it's too little looks like mean look good leave you could be permeate Pro from my view and all looks like Pro in which case that would be extremely oxymoronic because you don't have like stream processor acceleration in Premiere Pro you have CUDA acceleration so you would benefit no you do know now you do man they didn't introduce they did introduce it yeah I'm pretty sure oh right now let me check I'm pretty sure they'll and that's only everybody unless they took it away I mean I did use an AMD card and I did get open and what's the other one again sorry open see yeah yeah OpenCL yeah I remember being there dude and I did test in the past this is like I don't know they're maybe they took it away if they did that's so bad yeah I'm just getting CUDA and software donations was going a little bit weird at the moment sorry guys about the text Marvin says needs more Zeon's of course man Z Hans is life jion's is life I love my Zeon's to I've ordered a few more like Aliexpress dollars takes sometimes too long to get years eons you're hanging out and you're like I want my Zealand and they don't come for like 30 days sometimes they rock up in a week it's so hit and miss with Ollie's shipping sometimes because you know this little pet man perhaps he's so cute oh she's like just playing with the ball now and so but yeah back to this conspiracy theory guys do you reckon Greg is confirmed let us know in the comments do you reckon is a confirmed macbook pro she'll with this external GPU for $6.99 dude I'm not gonna lie like that looks like me five years it does ice cliff I shaved and then like Grune myself cut my hair a little bit which means a couple pounds yeah it dudes his uh his his wrist there look pretty vascular like he's been lifting so I got a I got a pickup pick up the slack we went too much okay there that's like that is I can confirm us you with the eyebrows have been trimmed a little bit nose looks the same chin looks Pierce's haircuts like yeah a little bit less maybe you filmed this like about a month ago whatever just after yeah yeah you straight off the computation went through the MacBook all right there we go guys that's this week's conspiracy theory we've always got to run it and that's why me and guys saying yeah guys are saying it's shield totally man it's confirmed that's it dude you've been caught on so we're gonna go over to chat now if you guys have questions we're gonna answer them for you both Greg and I and then we'll wind down the show and if you want to do are you doing after hours this week we can go yeah I'll be doing it tomorrow night tomorrow night at night if you need to go home just let me know I actually will do that sleep are you gonna be free what 9:00 tomorrow is same time your time tomorrow right okay good yeah I'll be ready I'm always ready born ready gear so okay so will annex 3470 bottleneck and on iron fury at fourteen forty forty forty Pino won't if you overclock it it'll be absolutely fine 1440p great combination actually at that resolution yeah I get it to four gigahertz you're all good so next question we got here is Brian and studio dude so you're the studio dude that's it just calling this the stud oh he called me studio together you can rubra v8 that take out the i/o and call it the stud dude I'm picking up msi gt80 have a 1080 TI for 430 pounds and he's getting proof of purchase would be nice to see a video about warranties EVGA stopped guests are amazed would that be like transfer of ownership warranties they stop decisions yeah as if you sell it used yeah oh I thought they warranties were transferable it's I mean it's technically just a warranty based on the purchase itself I believe in ours it would be valid that new warranties are transferable I'm pretty sure you know I don't know about the UK of course have you buying that car just make sure it works that's that's the biggest thing you would be taking a gamble if the warranty is non-transferable so if you've got anything to say about that what's it like in the States well I don't know I've never really thought I mean I'm just trying to think about the number of cards I've had died on me mm-hmm or have issues that I've had to RMA or in which I've had to arm it hmm I had to 1080 T eyes die with well the span of yeah and this was something I was I was kind of like on the fence about talking about way back when when it happened but it was about six months ago I was P and Wyatt sent me to 1080 T eyes and they were reference boards right so yeah so Nvidia boards and I had put water blocks on the I put a water block on the first one put it in a custom loop ran fine for about a day and I stopped getting signal so I was like troubleshooting everything came down to the graphics card just it wouldn't work I took it out of that system put it somewhere else no picture on that system either so I was like okay well this boards dead and I don't know what I did to it so I took another board I put the same block on that board you know this is the second card that they had sent me the founders Edition one and same thing dude it was dead like straight up I put it in the system and it died and you know I can't narrow down I can't say that it was something I did maybe I did put water blocks on so many graphics cards like I don't know what I would have done the like I flex the board enough to pull up pins or whatever yeah but you know it could have been the system that shorted something I have no idea but it happened on two of them back to back there's the only time I've ever really had issues with graphics cards so I can't say that it would even did you use this use the same water block on both I think it was a second but I think I left the water block on the first card and it's still sitting actually somewhere and then I used a second block same block though same design but yeah I just I never made a video because I didn't I didn't know really were to start how to troubleshoot it narrow it down to like a specific thing that I could point to so I just kind of left it yeah I've had some issues but it was quickly answered Dez Jones always says family both are we work I like watching and we watching dear and I'm so my English is terrible guys today are we watching the finals the FIFA finals France vs. Croatia actually I probably will that's that's awesome oh yeah that's worth watch I didn't watch I don't watch soccer a whole lot guys the theatrics does it for me and in Oz it's really not that popular because of that and so we also got to Nollan donation as well Greg fellow Florida he's a fellow his he's from Florida as well des Jones donated again so thank you thank you so much for the donations with the with the with the GPUs they're probably I'm coming into something different though mine's more cause and effect and I have to talk to other people who are having similar problems I basically with my problem with the CPU that died in the recent video that could be a bad batch of something and I'm not gonna really talk about it but I gotta actually test it before and after I'm I'm gonna actually run a dedicated test of my own now and I'd like if someone's got a microscope a microscope and can examine things really to a fine point then I'd love them for them to contact me so I can get some more evidence because I've been using liquid parondi lids for years and I've never had one problem whatsoever and then I change and I've actually had three dead CPUs now so something's not right and again I could have had a bad batch but I got to talk about it before I do sort of start blasting or whatever because I don't want that last thing I want is to blast someone for something and it's not I don't have a 100% proof so all's oh yeah I've been talking about this in the discord a bit but yeah I'd say be the waterblock possibly could have had you know I mean the tension and then it just those those dyes are so sensitive men especially a 1080i dye which is a bigger dye you've got more of a this area in other words more things could go wrong so yeah I don't know I just I just know that you know that wasn't my first rodeo I had done that probably ten blocks before that just in that year alone but they've all the different custom loops I was putting together and I had never heard of just a block dying because it was I mean I obviously know if you could if you flexiboard enough it's gonna something snaps I know the silicon was better if you flex it yeah no shadow just ever yeah yeah but I mean I did nothing you know nothing remotely close to that I mean all I was doing was laying the card flat you know and applying the block on one side flipping it over mounting it on the other screwing it down and calling it I mean huh I don't know what I could have done to do that but I I couldn't prove it I couldn't prove anything so I just had to send them back and say you know oh my god that's why that's again why I never made a video because man thank you fair enough so we got some more questions coming in as well I did miss one is it worth it to buy eBay pcs put them in new cases and yeah I mean guys any deal is worth it if the price is right that's what the whole that's what pole purpose of the deal hunting that that comes out of my channel always look at the price if you can pick up something for a good good price just pick it up do whatever you got to do with it even if it means you have to go quickly buy a new case for 40 bucks buy a power supply for 30 and then repurpose that machine by a hard drive even 100 dollars new hard drive past blind case if you can get those three for 100 bucks and then grab a deal hunter GPU put it in with that o a.m. you got yourself a build now what else you do with that is up to you we've got some cool other sort of different videos hitting the channel in relation to deal hunting so stay tuned for those but yeah it's always worth it so we keep the keep the cache questions rolling as well what's going on hey Nicholas not much man just just live streaming and so what's my favorite Z on at the moment yeah it is a hard question Marvin asked what's my favorite Z on this I'm any man I'd go with the x34 40s definitely one of them x 56 75 I've still got to try the six still sitting there just got so much other work to get through and also there is the X the III 1231 v3 on a be 85 that's a great combo as well so there's a few there's there's sort of like my top four picks for gamers and end users they all offer a little bit of something else the six core 12 thread being a good balance obviously the eight core 16 thread I believe that would be a great video editing zeon but have you got any experience with zealand's yeah I've built with two I think one of them was not something I should have built with I just did it because I had it on hand the other one was it was a it was an a1 a 1230 v3 I want to say yeah I don't remember it was has no basis well they Tuesday okay then it then it was then it was v4 because I remember I built with it because it was like 20 or 30 bucks cheaper than this the 6700 um you know the locked PI seven and so I had to buy a Z on board I forget the name of the bead tooth like 232 or something like that there's no C 232 yeah I've only built it too and I only reason I did because it was slightly cheaper than i7 I said look the only thing it doesn't have here is an eye GPU everything else pretty much is the same I don't remember if it's supported ECC memory or not I think that was I think I think it did but you could just use you know the good stuff yeah yeah so I mean definitely not my forte that's for sure yeah it's I mean it's up to you but you got to get into the Zeon's once you get into the Zeon's you'll appreciate the Zeon's and then though you'll learn them yeah I'm just like guys I'm gonna do an X 58 overclocking tutorial but you're in a relationship with Lisa you learn what Lisa's about you know the food she likes the things she does same with the Xeon you gotta treat her right you got to know what she likes gotta know the price that she's purchase yeah oh yeah now I'm gone off and we shouldn't go on this tangent and it does joins another donation thanks a lot man you should should I stick with the as rock x3 99m or wait for a second gen mobo x3 no not depends on the CPU you want to go with if you want to go that 32 core 64 thread dare I'd say you'd may wish to look at getting one with D beefiest v RM and again if this is a two thousand dollar CPU wouldn't you want to get that super at high-end motherboard for five hundred bucks and sort of take care of it like I mean no no it's a lot of money but you're spending a lot of money on the CPU definitely spend a lot of money on the other components as well to make sure things are running right that's all I'm gonna say I'd say next 309 M might have a little bit of trouble with a 32 or 64 thread that's just off the top of my head that would be my advant my advice at the moment what is the best case for water cooling in your opinion Greg you're going to ask the question no best case for water glam assuming custom water coin yep it would uh I mean when it comes to custom water cooling I would say there's a there's a get to balance it out right you can go with a really big case and have so much space to work with right but then you almost feel obligated to fill in all that empty space right with the tubing runs with extra radiators thick rads whatever I always try with custom leaves to keep things as densely packed as possible I hate that I hate empty space in a case so the smaller the better I would say the the most technically difficult you can make it without actually like wanting to throw the case across the room in order to keep it as compact as possible while at the same time maintaining enough rad space to adequately cool the components you're trying to cool is you're like that's your fine line there so you gotta find that point I think the the leniently PCO 11 dynamic is a really great case for water cooling you can pretty much deck it out to rads will do it just fine if you're going for a single rad combo i would say i mean any mid-sized tower that has a 360 you know mount on it that'll let you integrate a pump and reservoir that's usually the toughest thing to get into a case that size you should be fine you know even like an s3 for i built a custom loop in an s3 40 elite you know like even you can do it in case that aren't really water cooling friendly as long as you plan your loop properly upfront and then I've been making and they asked you guys join GN mod mat club I can't say I have I have one I did station did you get us in yeah yeah yeah yeah he produce it he brought his in it because it's I'm you know I'm close to him I got left out yeah okay I'm sad ozzie club I'm not in the club man yeah I'm sorry I'm good man it really is it it's it's uh you know fine pointed on the edges so it just square it off but I have a table that's kind of rounded so I I kind of groom the edges to kind of wrap around and it fits this table I haven't here perfectly so I mean look stays you jaja could be on your game as Nexus mod Matt that's all I'm gonna say you left him out not me I don't care I can take it you left him male announcer what's your opinion on the knock in Hades Canyon oh man it is my favorite Intel product in a very long time I absolutely love the knock it is so damn good that's what I'm gonna say it is just I'm gonna make I mean I'm gonna make probably another video later on but it's pretty much made mini-itx irrelevant that's that's my opinion on the knock it's just it it's a powerhouse it's so little so lightweight its man they've done an amazing job on it that's all I'm gonna say with the knock it's so damn good and it's a it's just what it is man it's for me it's like I look at the in wind choppin which was already a ridiculously small case you couldn't even fit a graphics card in it and then you got the nook which is is smaller it's like half the size of the the in wind choppin and it's like what you can fit this thing in a backpack and it's just a powerhouse 4k video editing mobile solution that will play games at 1080p fine we'll do video rendering with 32 gigs of sodium in it I absolutely love that price is amazing I wish I'd sad though the AMD didn't do this this is what I think AMD intended to do with an APU way back in the day they intended to have something so small that you could whack in that had so much power in it and it's sad that Intel stolen that fund with the knock that's what I'm sad about like what yes I was really that's what I was disappointed at and they didn't do this Intel's done it now so um yeah but that's the knock I it's it's I've got nothing but good things to say about that it's so damn good and the price really isn't that bad - you get the not that not a flagship want just the model a little bit below that you you get a good that's a good deal like that's actually a solid deal for the money so yeah Hades Canyon knock so anyway that's the CEO to Vega graphics it's beautiful yeah so alright any questions any more questions what is NOK small computer yeah it's like a really small computer usually they were used for offices or people who just didn't need any GPU power but now Intel's made one with a graphics solution bit more power and it's pretty much like a desktop but in a small computer I mean what doesn't rival like anything super powerful like you know just six core 12 thread a 700 K and it still got great power at its disposal so we got a psmf found a dual socket 1366 server and the garbage got any cool ideas what you should do with it I try and grab the highest multiplier zero and just single single core xeon run a single xeon in it and then repurpose it as a gaming pc running to is iran's on 1366 is laggy that's just my opinion on it I mean I'm gonna do it with the SR 2 just for you know for aesthetics and for the looking for the video and for these nostalgia but for running an actual serious gaming PC or flippin whatever your intention is I just grabbed a single Z on leave the socket and leave the second sock attempt you just put a cover over it get even bend the pins if you want to have a bit of fun but I haven't gotten x3 99m yet but I was thinking since I was looking at it yeah it's nice with the 12 chord Dez really nice with the tilt 12 core it'd be a great thing so oh the ok boot man wants to send me a GN mod mat dude that's that's amazing I'll take it for sure man just send us an email or join our discord yeah discord is open as well we've got asked about that as well discord is pretty much open for people who want to come in I will say though it's not open to sjw's we do not cept social justice warriors in our discord you get been pretty much straight away sister really chilled this Corp we just hang out we make cool content and then we talk with that you know talk with our viewers it's such a good community should you buy an x 56 75 instead of an X 34 74 about $8 more it all depends men do different platforms it all depends max on if you can get the x58 motherboard if you can definitely X 56 75 is so good because it's 95 watt TDP as opposed to the X 56 80 and 56 90 which 135 watt TDP so technically they're better bin that's the idea behind the 56 75 ok so what's up with hardware on box I do not know what's up with hardware I'm boxed and spoke to him for a while so I and can you leave me in the disco will right after we do this Greg you like my name I don't know I think we're winding down now so are we winding down with a shot we're gonna one down trauma Collington says thank you for burning sjw's yeah I can't stand it yeah I just can't stand it man anymore making a stand she's on a place for like it's just not I just yeah actually I can't stand this you can't have an opinion because my opinions the perfect one or something in a perfect world the world ain't perfect and we just got to you know hustle and do our best and work and work our asses off that's essentially my attitude in life and yeah I find I don't align well with sjw's so that's just my stance on it all and I mean I've never gotten along with them in the past so whatever now we just got an awesome community and we all just chat freely and things are cool yeah anyway Greg so patron stream we might we might gonna do a patron stream if Greg's up for it too maybe if you have to work I might a lot of school work it's 10:00 p.m. by 10:00 p.m. and I gotta wake up early and get back to it okay so yeah Dez is looking at the 12 cool I know Dez you've really said that so many times before came up and left alright anyway thanks a lot guys love you all we're gonna wind down the show now unless there is just one more question weekend yeah everyone's just go on Zeon mad now and the quitter loves the arms again hey did you watch the door TVs about chip blitz and what are your thought I haven't seen that video yet so I will go watch it soon sorry I just been way too busy trying to schedule videos out for the whole upcoming holiday as well but I'll take a look at it and yeah I'll let you guys know so I do I do like gym where you get it we get along behind the scenes he's you know he seems like I'd love to meet him in real life but I mean yeah whatever like yeah the real life thing it's always good yeah we'll get ya put the link in the description below for discord we'll catch you guys soon unless Greg wants to answer this last question from Ben oh wait which one am i answering what is the whole power supply unit degradation over time and how does 80 plus matter and how reliable the HSU is I can sir that quick I have a video dedicated specifically to efficiencies and other scale but in a nutshell typically more efficient power supplies are gonna be higher wattage and the reason why you want to do it that way is because the the margins right of power loss are higher when you're a higher wattage unit so a thousand watt unit that's 80 plus bronze right which is pretty bad for a thousand watt unit is going to lose more power in the form of heat you know just straight up from a numbers standpoint because it's outputting more power proportionately so usually the lower end units like you know 400 500 watt those stay around bronze to gold most of the time just because those usually peak at around 90 percent or so efficiency and at that point like you're maybe saving 5 to 10 watts right so thousand watts totally different like you're saving twice to three times as much power especially when you're talking about like platinum or titanium especially when you're in that efficiency curve peak which is usually around 40 to 70 percent load so there's a video dedicated to it but in a nutshell yeah that's why they scale that way and in terms of you know degradation over time there's not really degradation it's just more or less you know how well it's built is it's again directly linked to its efficiency and they're gonna scale you know that way you expect the titanium power supply to last longer than well something it's nice so what happens with it the components do degrade over time like you know caps inside are gonna get less efficient just ever so slight but what they do with power supplies is usually a good power supply manufacturer will make a 650 watt actually go a little bit higher so it'll run 720 what day-in day-out but they do that so over time even if you do get a bit of degradation it'll still run 650 watt for a very long time that's just the whole thing yes yeah your engine in your car wear out over time anything will wear out over time just degrades wear and tear same with power supplies but it's nothing to really worry about if you buy a good power supply as well as have I found a power supply blow up on me yeah I had a couple mainly this is yeah they've been the cheap ones my first one didn't blow up it like it just started like seeping out this very seedy smell and I actually threw up because I was in the room of it what's going on here I smell this smell so I was watching just some movies on the other PC while I was trying to I think I was just running a stress test on this thing and there's this ages ago and I was getting into overclocking this is going back like over 10 years and yeah I just start smelling and then just yet it suddenly went bang kaboom like I saw something you know that little flash like you sort of flash and then yeah it just dramatically died and you're like oh ok something really messed up but I had to go vomit after that because whatever the smell let off and let off some really bad chemicals so yeah that was um that was my first power supply blow up I mean I've had some others just died I mean yeah it's usually the cheap ones so anyway we're gonna get out of here thank you guys so much tuning in to tech world TV and thanks so much Greg for coming on it links to Greg's channel in the description below as well I'll put that Dischord link for you guys thanks for the donations as well appreciate everything you guys do for the channel as well you guys keep it alive and it's it's awesome we'll catch you guys in another tech video very soon you want to catch some closing statements Greg but by no it's dude it's peace out for no I'll do it in please not now now boy peace out for now by like dude you got to get it right man like peace out for now buddy these out for now dude like by gonna do it so there we go so now boy catches