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Oh walkabout episode 3 of the tech lounge this is brian from tech city joined by kev showdown hey you don't care i know good brian how about you man I'm pretty good did you like that name keV showdown uh yeah Hey look at that when I miss the next time well it just matches everything I don't know let me go let us know in the audience do you like the name keV showdown shirk we call you Brian city yeah Brian city that's it I see well I guess a lot of people want to come to Brian city now sir cuz I gotta judge our mug oh yeah so I hope you guys in the audience are doing really well we've got a show for you guys today with not a lot of topics but we're going to go in depth and then we want to do a lot of community stuff today and just talk to you guys about things that you want to talk about so hopefully the Q&A can be bigger than normal today and with that being said to use there anything that happened in the last week anything special mmm nothing that i can imagine i'm just being channels as being humming along like normal been doing a bit more peripherals review since i've been doing so many GPUs but um yes or when free normal how about you man I saw you a $35 mechanical keyboard video yeah the thing was actually surprisingly good when I first got it in like they didn't tell me the price when I first got it in I was like oh whoa you guys gonna like us seventy or eighty dollars for this like mmm that ain't gonna be right and then I like looked at the prolly Oh $35 that changes everything ok so those she's pretty surprised with it was really cool so for a $35 keyboard it is really damn good other than that you guys put my notice wearing the new shirt oh yeah I'm gonna plug the shirt right now come on man come on there we go if you don't want to ever again want to get the money at the truth hurts shirt hottest shirt out there in the tech community the moment self-proclaimed okay go to shop dot spreadshirt com / tech city go get yourself the truth hurts because it does it does hurt so I get and we'll do that we gotta give away coming too so there's a lot there's lots going on this show so you guys gotta stay tuned but unlocked are you and also last I'm still reeling from the wendell hangover from last week man that show is just awesome like I just got we just got so much positive feedback from the community that sure was really good like we just had to make it the extra mile as well because those are so many things that we wanted to talk about with Wendell you know he just knows everything so I was like just as the knowledge is just unbelievable yes general knowledge when it comes to tech is justice I guess I guess that comes from him being an enthusiast for such a long time as well you could tell he's been enthusiast before you know me and you were whatever you know building our first pc that's I think that's pretty clearly obvious there's just knows a lot about everything so we got the first topic here though the I 373 50k now this is really interesting this is the first time we're gonna see an overclockable I three I besides the old school you know 550 550 or whatnot which you could overclock but sort of like the first k I three that we're seeing and I like the product I like where it stands right it's coming in around I think at one hundred and seventy dollars 150-180 the price isn't confirmed yet but I think it's going to hit the market pretty well in that you know it's going to offer those sort of entry-level GPUs in the mid-range GPUs a good cpu to go hand in hand with you know yeah i'm sort of a little bit dubious because it's a dual-core processor and if you remember back to the pentium k which technically you're still correct that it wasn't an i3 but intel has released and unlocked dual core processor which was the nicknames pentium k and or the what was the proper names that is breathe 438 are the thirty to fifty eight thirty to fifty i love it i love that yeah man that was an awesome cpu because the thing about that cpu was it could overclock on the cheap h81 motherboards now that's something we're going to raise but i'll let you finish you go yeah i just i was going to say that it was really good um and i remember when i tested it originally i really liked it but the bing a dual-core in this day and age is actually going to be quite a big of a drawback because a lot of these games now actually require not all of them and obviously not know old games but a lot of new games now are requiring quad core cpus and that's an issue for some people out there so yeah that is true like a lot of those games are like there are games so not a lot but there are games are coming out there with the prerequisite of four cores but something that I've noticed is a lot of games that are very popular layered we're talking popular multi type player titles like overwatch they would never pull that right because they know a lot of people are using dual cores so any game that's going to be really really popular you can bet your bottom dollar it's going to support a dual core hello could probably even run on a single call you know I think you can still run over watch on a pentium 4 just it runs terribly that's all but you know I think that prerequisite is not going to be there for really really popular titles due to the fact that you've got in a lot of third world Asian countries that have these real cheap computers and they want to capture that market as well you know because they want to sell their two dollar you know costumes on their characters in the game and stuff and people can afford the a/c so they they know how to bring people in really popular multiplayer titles that nowadays a geared in such a way that you won't see four cores being a prerequisite if they want to have a really really popular multiplayer title on their hands so that's all in one point of the thing yeah that is true and when someone wrote um it does have I hyper-threading yet which is true so that will um sort of help although I hope you guys understand that hyper threading is to do with the threads not to do with it doesn't make a dual core into a quad core it just it makes it horrified quad core essential it makes it it's yeah yeah it's sort of like a it's like a virtual sort of um I don't know how to put it really that would be very simple for everyone to understand the non enthusiast I should say but yeah it that is a good point but it still might have run into some issues that's not going to mean that it's full workaround but I'm still impressed with us and I think it will definitely have a market I think until I sort of seeing that could probably make a lot of money here I think that's mainly probably the big factor of why they can release this overclockable I three yeah well I mean hyper-threading does do really good things though it does utilize more of the cause that is proven you know yeah it is true I'm not against it yeah you know and a lot of people put it down to around about a figure roughly that is thirty percent and I tend to agree with that if it's utilized properly fiber threatenings utilized in perfect world it's around about thirty to forty percent depending so you know that's a really good thing so you know an i3 over a dual core is always a better things it's going to have those extra two threads also at the same time I mean I wonder with this the I 373 50k right I'm the biggest thing that gets me worried is of course do you have to go and buy a Z 270 board because yeah that's obviously it's going to be expensive much more expensive than H whatever 210 are they going to do h 2 10 boards because I think with the eye through the entry-level overclocker they should be out they should allow it to overclock on entry-level boards but the thing that does make me a little bit happy is that there but they bring this thing out with a boost frequency of 4.2 gigahertz which means is there going to be any overclocking Headroom anyway that's that's something that I'm worried I'd imagine it would be here I'd imagine you'd probably get I mean that was the big thing with the thirty to fifty eight and one I test I got up to 4.9 and that thing was out of the box was clocked at 3.2 cu yeah you could take that thing to the moon so um yeah I think I think it'll be a right isn't k be late on I don't know where I read it all though they haven't confirmed it have they I thought it was going to stay on the Z 170 others new motherboards is definitely new motherboards being released you're just not sure I'm not I've the socket should be the same so yeah it should work i mean the cabbie lake cpu should work on a-z 170 and whatnot it's just they're bringing in new motherboards I know that already so they're doing yeah well they did that with Broadway Lydia with XP I I mean it would work in an old x99 board but they brought out new ones because you know whatever its new yeah and you cpu they may as well bring out a new boards for it and people buy the new boards but fresh boards i should say so i was thinking that was the case so we're just going to refresh the z1 70s yeah i know that well essentially yeah i mean that's what you're looking here that you're giving it the title of Z 270 so the thing is that hide that high boost frequency of 4.2 gigahertz that does sort of that is pretty cool because yeah yeah it is you will get a bill to buy well that's the thing is it going to be worth it to get that cheap motherboard as opposed to the more expensive motherboard you know aimed at that price it depends on how well it overclocks on average you're not i mean yeah so when you when you throw it when you throw out a 4.9 how indicative is that of the general populace you know how indicative I don't know I'd like 4.9 s man they're rare I mean I had a what was at the haswell's fork or 5th 4670k yeah I got one of those men they went 25 gigahertz I could get that thing to five kickers on air and I was just show how because yeah that was and that was a initial release I got the golden of golden samples with that cpu you know d loaded it what not deleted it did the whole nine yards on it but it was an amazing cpu and I remember people just like Rajon at me my cpu only goes to four point oh how dare you how dare you have a cpu that goes to 4.8 and leg whatnot filing is not my problem i know i mean why is your one planning man they should get on board well II like you know what broadwell a man oh boy there's not much Headroom they are you at 6,900 case I mean like you're you're lucky if you can get I mean I got line to 4.3 yeah that was that okay that that was it and then I put it down to 4.2 because it requires so much an extra voltage data to 4.3 and 4.4 is just impossible see ya I've just said to 4.2 but um now there's not a lot of headroom on broad well II which pollutants surprise a lot of people because the gaming chips are always the ones that will go to the moon and the enthusiasts chips generally don't go as high but yeah unless you get a real good one or something but I yeah I mean what did you get what Broadwell eat chips did you overclock I really get 100 da I got CC on Enrique and uh go two to four point three gigahertz now this one goes to 4.4 so it's kind of like you're not getting a lot over 58 20k I mean there's gonna be people out there like I just got it because I got the new I got the motherboard sent him from MSI you know I mean there then sounds like okay well got to match it with the CPU wise will go out and get at 6,800 k the e I wouldn't have done that had I'd not got that motherboard you know what i mean so I I don't recommend if you got a 58 20k there's no point upgrading to a 6800 k like absolutely no point at all so you know one thing that did surprise me though the the 6800 k out of the box the performance was really damn good like if you're one of those guys who does not like to overclock hates overclocking everything overclocking in general but you still you know building a computer is easy enough then that's when the 6800 k kind of makes a bit of sense because you start to extract a lot of value out of that auto staff like old surprises the sooner bench was like 1150 out of the box or something and then when i overclocked it was like only thirteen hundred and eleven or something so you can see there's not a big increase as opposed to 58 20k there was a massive increase so that's something that i guess i guess yeah the 6800 cake would be good to say video editors who just they know how to build their own computers they just don't know how to go into the bars and overclock and all that so i guess that's the edge it concerned that's where that and I me yeah and I mean you you had it didn't was for people like us Broadway Lee is very appealing because um coming I mean looking at the difference between what I was using before Haswell 4770k at 4.4 gigahertz I'm seeing very little difference in terms of gaming performance it's always very very similar and to what i was getting with the 4770k it's more that once i start doing productivity stuff especially my rendering times when I'm editing videos it makes a lot of sense then because my rendering times have been cut in half or better so for people like us that are again is plus you know creators youtubers we're doing a video editing heavily it makes sense to have that but if you're just purely a gamer unless you're doing something very specific I would say you just want to step to the k-series gaming CPUs the enthusiast ones will just it wouldn't be worth it for you I would imagine to go up to them so that's what I I like about it that they're good for for those people out there and there's a lot of people out there who do both productivity stuff and gaming stuff and they want to CPU that does both extremely well even then even if you were a game on even if you were a game on I would say try and pick up a cheap 5820 k and a cheap x99 board because you know I've seen x99 boards go you know low 100's I've seen the 5820 KS go now for around about 200 or 250 wow you see that well I mean Joker Joker Joker sold me his 58 20k for like 250 shipped like as he when I go out and get the 6800 cows like hell yeah I'll take that off your hands no problems man so like I'd like he was like yeah well he was desperate he just want to get rid of that's on me pick up a deal go get yourself a deal if you can just sit there and know that it's an option I would recommend it to a game any day of the week I mean the 5820 k's of beasts ah you know absolute beast if you cannot pay too much of a premium it's going to give you that future proof you know there's going to be a lot of future proof out there so really good cpu what am I probably my favorite of the last few years from intel would be the 58 20k easy so yeah I would I would tend to agree i def actually have to say that the one I had the most fun with um would be the like I said the G 3258 the pentam k as it was called yep I had a lot of fun with that cpu even though it's probably not the most practical now back when it came out probably what was that like two years ago type thing um that was a lot of fun and but we they were so cheap man it companies are just giving them to everybody all the reviews to go play with see seeing everybody going crazy with them and it was just a lot of fun i really enjoyed that cpu i just want a random midstream moment just wanted to say something random midstream signed up for the gym again boys you nice bro alright yeah so yeah i'm gonna go today after we finish the stream to gonna go to the gym oh yeah get back on and get back on that hell yeah i'm going to be a life derogatory term so I'm gonna be one of those guys you know you meet those guys in real life and they're just so pumped up on life that's what I want to be now you know what I mean like you just like see them and they're just life's flowing out of their body I want to be one of those guys yeah just i remember back in Union I'd meet some of these guys that just step out of the gym you know that b roll around on campus hey man how you going I'm like why is this guy so enthusiastic just I realize he's just yeah it's just full of life so I want to be that just pull it yeah juice me yeah they're so that's what they call it juicing when you get all pumped on that depends arguments and everything maybe if your juice in that way usually you have those real like and I've seen people have you know what they call roid rage or whatever man that's scary yeah yeah yeah hey whoa no way that stuff at all costs but we've gotten video in video with the 1080 TI Tang gigabytes of a ram this is the latest coming out of the rumor mill here with the I guess a screencap of the shipment here so we got here 384 bits on the memory boss and then we got a tanker you bunch of GTR I think yes they don't want to say if it's 5x or five I guess that's out in the air they don't want to sort of put that money right out there at the moment but this is this is kind of like a curve ball a little bit what are they doing you know where first of all we're hearing that it's non 5x you know it's not 5x now we're hearing that it's okay it might be 5x but now they're dropping it down to 320 bits or even they're using 384-bit I mean if they use 384-bit I think they're going to have to drop two of the memory modules down to one gigabyte it from two gigabytes so it's going to be really weird but if I drop it if they drop 64bit memory controller off there then they can still get away with just using five to you by memory controls you know flash banks instead of six so yeah this is interesting what they're going to do I mean there's are so many rumors out there now where I'm just sort of at the stage where I'm like just just let it come out just let it be what it's going to be now because there's so much stuff flow now there now but I mean 10 gigabytes again this would make sense as well looking at this this kind of makes sense as well they don't want something that's going to cut sales of Titan X to drastically you know they don't want that coming out they don't want to just you know completely obliterate their higher echelon card at the same time they still want something that's in between and so that's why i thought the fight that 9x was the perfect solution because it would put it in that segment where people would still buy it but people be like well the 1080 is still a good buy as opposed to tennis yeah yeah exactly i'm see where you're coming from and your approach is extremely logical when looking at Nvidia's lineup of how they're going to market their cards in each segment their cars will fill what I'm curious about is Vegas influence on this and given that how much vram Vega will have um actually how powerful is as well yeah and I think in video will be sitting on their hands waiting till vegas released and then they'll release the 1080 TI about a month later and it will probably help do it and yeah the majority of ways although you know might not out do it in every way um maybe in memory wise i would save a go Andy generally has had higher memory capacities on the graphics cards if you look historically than nvidia that just consistently had basically more than needed at the time of when it was released well then they had it they had then they arguably had an inferior architecture to with the memory compression rhyming video had memory compression so that enabled them to use a smaller memory bus and whatnot so yeah there's something that this is something that's sort of I'm little bit worried about is either you know on a 10 ATT I would they nerf the memory bus that like late the 660 those you know this article points out here especially or like the 660 ti right that thing you know at 1080p it was fine but if you even stepped it up to 1440p it started to have a lot of problems or if you put you know a load on the memory it started having problems now since the 1080p I is a fork a card like we're going to make this I'm going to put a bold statement out that this card is pretty much a 4k gaming graphics card you do not want any hindrance on the memory bus side of things at all so the moment you start doing that you know the movie start doing you're gonna have a lot of problems I don't think nvidia will do that that's why I thought it was logical to have you know the pool 384 bits there I don't think they're going to cut that yeah and I imagine performance wise it won't be higher than the time necks um and yeah I think you're right it'll be definitely for 4k gaming I just started Gears of War for and and with my gtx 1080 and i can tell you from playing it already and playing with the settings i cannot get away with 4k on ultra in Gears of War for with my g1 gaming gtx 1080 i'm getting about an average of i would say it feels like about 40 ish if i drop it down to hi I'm getting about 60 to 70 ish so I think this will be the card that will be like 4k Ultra settings filters max you know good for type thing and anything Vega they get the highest in Vega chip will also be trying to attain okay the same thing a very high-end super high-end and type thing too I imagined that that will be the case there'll be two Vega chips I'm almost assured there'll be a 49 c and like a for 90 x or something like that they'll have something that needs to go against the 1070 and then they'll need something to go against the 1080 slashed in a TTI and i would imagine and he is going to deliver a cut-down vega to go against the 1070 and a full power very good to go against oh yeah well Devon the vagal they should have any way up but I got one question with the 1080 did you try statically shocking it you know just charge yourself up and give it a bit of a shock that might have given you an FPS Bush you know she's like I don't think so man we don't want to whatever Ian 80 well you never know nowadays everyone's doing everything apparently if you've got gaming on the card it gives you extra AFVs you know so i was thinking away baby yeah run your socks on the carpet and give it a bit of a shock and it might give you a bit more FPS you know yeah i mean like this is the this is the most powerful GPU I've behind the most plain one I've ever got for myself so I think I don't think it would be ideal to do something like that but no yeah I think I think that that will be the case but historically that has been what ah NVIDIA has done before so I imagine there will be there will be lots of rumours to do with the 1080 TI they'll probably even ship them out to some places but they'll make them sit on their shelves for a while until AMD of showing the hand and then though release it and adjust their pricing accordingly if it's actually tied with Vega in terms of performance they'll probably just try undercut aim deal they'll do some other sort of funny business well speaking of undercutting they're definitely over caught it over cutting their stocks I mean wow they had this massive surge it was huge so following their earnings which was was it like two billion or something there their stock prices just went over the over the roof so you know I guess this has got to do with as I've said before and in the past i said this ages ago and videos going places why because their CEO loves the company is then the founder of nvidia everything this is his life like when you got someone leading a company like that they're gonna want to grow this company to kingdom come you know he like wakes up each shits and sleeps and breathes and video that's what jen dogs when you see a guy like that leading the helm he's going to go in not just gaming graphics cards look at the deep learning virtual reality everything he's getting his hands in everything cloud services driverless cars I mean a video I still think arguably they have got a long way to go yet especially if they're going to delve into new markets and use their technology to get gains out of that so they're just in there in a position where they're just completely seeing past the eight ball and the end game and they go on a step further and then you're saying look this is what we can use our performance for let's do it and I think that's coming out now and stock analyst is sort of like a we didn't see this coming and you know you know these guys have a lot more potential I thing I think these earnings are starting to untap the potential of what invidious cards can do or even that matter what GPU GPU compute can do you know ah yeah you know so that's they're starting to utilize that it's not as they there's this power out there that exists and it can be utilized a lot more or a lot faster a lot better than CPU power again so yes why not use it you know search it exactly right i mean they're saying that a lot of the growth has come from pascal and that is very true as far as the big jump up goes Pascal has jumped up a lot but I think what a lot of people in the community are missing is in the gaming laptops I mean Pascal powered gaming laptops are really impressive on compared to last generations 970 m and end all that sir I mean they were saying you know with let the 1050 TI gaming laptops I mean they're just taking off they're so powerful they will you know be 297 TN so yeah very impressive and I think a lot of that is down to how good Pascal is not only for their desktop discrete GPUs but also for the gaming laptops because it's made a big wave in the gaming laptop market and a lot of those manufacturers are loving the fact that Pascal is so powerful and game like we are breaking down the numbers of mean gaming revenue increased sixty-three percent holy moly I mean everything just everything increased I mean they're cloud platforms and tripled dribbled yeah you could just see the auto revenue climb 61 percent they're just doing they're going above the bar man they're just really nailing every market they touch I guess and then they've got that new deal with the Nintendo switch you know I was like yep effort how's that going to fare for them so I think just you know the green Goblin's really coming in and he's slaying everything you know I guess it's spider-man losses to the Green Goblin this time I don't know maybe we got to rewrite the spider-man storyline yeah I don't know like but on that note you know md's there as in I just wanted to you know people like what about AMD stocks they've climbed tremendously and yes they have but that's based off I guess more speculation as opposed to this as being a reaction with the good yes from a new do you know people are speculating that zens gonna kick ass it's gonna really hit the mark hard shake things up there on the graphics cards as well Polaris you know we're waiting on Vega but people think that that's going to really shake them out and yes AMD have grown as well but are they going into new markets like a video is are they doing everything and everything like a video is so I mean ready to be seen how Nvidia AMD stock prices will go on xen hits I think that would do well I think they'll do really well but at the same time a little bit cautious because again as I said before it's based off speculation as opposed to reaction with nvidia this time around so we've actually got to see something out of yeah exactly i think that's I really want I mean I've only ever run intel cpus it's not because I'm biased it's just because every time I've gone to upgrade at that time until have had the best CPUs to go for so and I generally like to stick with high-end you know I 7 yeah um but I always want Andy to do well and so should you even if you're the biggest Intel fanboy imaginable I you want Zen to do well because it's going to bring down the price of Intel chips if it's really starting to make Intel stop having like almost a monopoly it's going to be good for you because they'll bring down Intel will cut prices to make their at cpu is more competitive and then you the consumer will benefit we'll be able to go out and buy your new Intel CPU for cheaper so um I think with that night events ready but where does it break down though with that argument where when does a break down Roman this is the thing that I've argued in the past about this you know where does it stop like you know until have the better chips out of the moment and so for me I'm going to be recommending my friends get in tell you know like I can say here and say yeah guys we go to support AMD on this CPUs go out and buy an FX 6300 but I wouldn't do that to my friends you sort of me so now at the same time where does that sort of think okay I don't know you I don't care about you go buy an FX 6300 keep am dear life that's not what I'm about around my channel so that's kind of like no no I'm not saying that it's yeah i know i'm not saying that but what do we get to where do we come to a ground with this Oh guys we got to support the competitor even though they got the inferior product at the moment like I'm this especially on the GPU on the GPU side of things is coming a different kettle of fish I got to admit the artist for 80 in the RX 470 are really good cars and especially with what AMD Nvidia is doing with the software at the moment like their geforce crap experience that things just terrible at the moment you know md's definitely going to see a lot more sales there but one the cpu side of things right I just can't recommend an fx cpu to anyone at the moment you know it's nice and for sure you're 100 missing correct and I I I would never recommend an inferior product my thing is always what's best comes first and then brand doesn't even really come into it so much for me but the thing is it was in its in is going to be good for probably specific users and in that case I wouldn't use blanket statements to go ahead by auntie to support MD but say if zing comes out and it's battling against Broadwell e which their highest ends in looks like it's going to be trying to hit say the 6900 k 6800 k and it's doing it at a significantly lower price and you still get all the benefits of the chipset on the a.m 4 + x would say to a lot of people hey maybe consider this look into that and it's a if the product is better or at least on even ground um then i would tell people maybe to take a look into it but that's the thing right now we're just saying this is what could happen but we really need to see but I I really hope that AMD don't overhype it I really really hope that and i hope the community also doesn't over hoping to say like look like you were so stupid getting a broad well a cpu i'm going to get us in for like a quarter the price and it's going to like blow your 6900 k out of the water and then it comes out and everyone gets disappointed let's keep it realistic let's go off what they're saying let's hope Andy does it the same and let's hope Zen comes out and it is does hit a lot of those markets not just the very high end which I think md really shouldn't be aiming it I think they should try gets the i-5 crowd and go go hit that market coalition they should hit every penny they should had every but if there's one they hit the hardest I would say it's that because they already dominate the very sort of i would say very line but you know the entry the apu market is they've got that very much for themselves so now they need something in the midst here and the high tier two really arm set them off but the thing is like with AMD i gotta say this straight up and i never sugarcoat anything but us to show that showed up again you know let's just get it up there like look the bottom line is if aimed is making the inferior product i'm going to be recommending the better product so if at the time as n comes out as crap at zen comes out in this crap of course i'm gonna be buying i'm going to be testing it but if it comes out as crap i'm just gonna say go by and tell because i just that's what I just call how fine you know and where do you draw that's the thing where you drawn the light if they're really close and this is the only scenario where I would be recommending it over the other if they were really close i'd say hey guys go support the underdog because we need them and they're only a little bit behind that's the only time i would support them but if they're making crap products then you know it's straight up you know if they're going to make crap products that i wouldn't support them you know and yeah at the same time you know you're like you're saying you know go go sup like they've got to hit the mid round with the i5s and stuff but historically it's always been those enthusiasts processes that have really made the company's a lot of box you know back when AMD was profitable they were selling those $1,000 cpus i remember or selling those flagship FXR CPUs they were making a lot of bucks people were buying them over and tells flagship that's where md made their money and they know this so i would say if if they want to be top dog if they want to start being profitable again they've got to start making the better product end of story you know not just you know just not just the one that comes close to competing they can't trail the market anymore they have to lead now so I said if we go back on all this is like a repeating you know broken record that just repeats itself they need to get cash in for rd they need to start up in their game for rd and coming back into the market and hitting hard it's the only path of them or just sell the company to more capable hands you know yeah so the same thing that's why I know for that I yeah yeah it could happen in the future but I mean judging by who designed as n as well it does bode well for them but I'm yet yeah I think it'll be very interesting but yeah it'll be something to talk about more in the future when we have some more details to go off because right now we have very very little to go off yeah that's true that is true and we got here on that note we got a cannon lake like you take a V Lake hasn't even been released yet we're pumping up 300 series motherboards cannon lake CPUs now the thing about Deanna lake is it's going to be the node shrink this time around so you know I think from what we've heard cabbie Lakes gonna give us no I pc gains basically and cannon like with the node shrink is going to give us no gains again so just so like we're looks like we're looking at no gains for like another year and half so yeah of zen-like agains and then has the perfect opportunity to come here and shake things up like really shake things up so you know do we want to go into the details of cannon like I mean I didn't even really want to bother as 10 nanometer sencha Lee the same skews as cabbie like he said is going to have you know tena it's gonna be on 1000 meter so yeah out of that now I'm just not looking forward to it at all I don't hit laptops before it hits desktops of course due to yields um yeah it seems like he runs skipping over coffee lake as well which will be I hang out in bit k be like and I'm like latte chocolate caramel fusion lake yeah good come on until they gotta get more creative I want to see coffee fusion camera latte like it's like it's like AMD with the radio and i should say naming all the GPUs after on volcanic islands and that so um that's been going on so eventually that'll and just keep keep going and going but be you know I'm it should be interesting that they do really need to get I had that they've got to give more reason for people to upgrade professor right now even with kb like it's looking like there's it's gonna be a hard sell for their marketing department well but as a joke from Wendell though the current microarchitecture is done like that's where windle's the news saying last week is really good at that insight on loss last week's episode but do you want to get on some good news sure huh infinite warfare sales are like down like half about a black ops 3 fantastic news like you know to be honest I've been over the cod series like yeah they just keep rehashing the same old crappy Angeles and you know like and just time around I just said I'm not buying it this time you know I love my car I lied I've been a big fan of cod I love just jumping into a game stuff ragging team deathmatch whatever it's just jumping in there as such a good picker and I said this in the past such a good pickup game if you got 20 minutes to spare you can just jump in your straight away in a game uses fragging like it's really good you know what you can do in Carden I like the style you know twit shooter but it's just the same crap they just keep rehashing it with this new broken engine and it's like please give us something entirely new we're all waiting they've got they've got the money to do it they just you know they've got the money to do it they just don't want to it's all that profits and this is a big you know this is I think this should be news to them to say hey we're sick of it you know we're getting rehash the same crap you've got the money if we're gonna pay good money for this game give us something good instead of giving us something that's just rehashed sure the storyline might be amazing and whatnot I don't really care i'll wait till it comes down in price then I'll check the story out you know ya know the pricing is ridiculous that just over price their gains for so long well it's just they have not done anything they just keep reusing the same crappy anjiri using it yeah so I think they're get it I think another reason why is battlefield of one has done probably a lot better than a lot of people expected it to do especially me i was really unsure of having a world war one game and given that world war one is sort of quite a difficult one to do but um will make entertaining anyways because in real life it was just trench warfare the whole time so because they've made it pretty good but and i played battlefield one a decent bit and I do I I like it in some ways I dislike it another and others I would say it has some of the best audio of a shooter game that I've ever played like the explosions the gunshots just everything the the atmosphere creates is extremely good and I think that's one part that people tend to overlook when they check it out but um yeah it's it's a quite a good one so I think that maybe that will make the you know the next Call of Duty there'll be changes because of that bursts they might end up just doing the same thing oh yeah probably the next at least the next year probably the same thing unfortunately because it takes a while to revamp the whole thing that this should be news to them that hey if you want to start bringing releasing these games then start rehashing I mean I haven't got console sales up which I say would be their best selling markets by far I wonder how console sales are doing but at least you know like black or buy black ops 3 launch sales was six hundred and thirty-five thousand time versus time infinite warfare was that for the same time frame 328 thousand yeah so you gotta see how many less and you know the gaming market is a market that's actually growing it's one of the few markets that is growing in pcs and you know technology mmm so you know this would be doing actually worse that 48.4 percent drop because of the you know because more people out there buying games arguably so yeah yeah good on use a cod series yeah stop rehashing crap I guess that's just the message that comes out of this just stop rehash in the crap you know and speaking of this so we got Dishonored 2 and it's running poorly on PC so you know they're using the old id Tech 5 engine apparently that's got some of the reason to do with it but at the same time it's running a lot better on in video gravis cards a lot way better way way better so I'm ready ash so that may be a glue at ten-fifty TI it's almost matching like the RX 47 which it shouldn't be yeah exactly edible what I'm looking at is the 480 versus the 1060 well that's that's actually not too bad like they aren't you know the rs4 6480 is a good card like look at it go man it's actually hammer in those benchmarks I think a oh it's doing alright I'm just being black comparison um I would have liked to see it may be a little bit closer than that but I mean you see the high-end ones that's in sydney in the 1080 just absolutely take off yeah that's it I mean but yeah those cards are kind of like 1080p cards kind of thing like so you want your 470 you know look at 1080p vs 1050 GI it's sort of it's it's a hand actually you know the RX 470 is a nice card and it's a head by a giftable margin but we look at the RS 460 down there poor little guy you she's struggling strong yeah that's not even yeah he's struggling poor little guy thinks gonna be there yeah but but yeah this will probably be something that'll be fixed with drivers in the future on the AMD side i would say particularly there'll be good optimizations yeah but i mean the games like the games poorly optimized in sensor you can't even get h bao anh on AMD cards which in the past you have been able to sort of feature has been enabled but yeah it's kind of like it makes me wonder you know why they're releasing these games and you know the sort of bug you to begin with like that's where you have a beta testing phase you know and if it's not ready for release and just hold it back why release games like mafia 3 for example it just had such negative reviews when it came out as like as this game just run they complete ass I can't recommend you buy it as you just just hold the game back for a few months I mean yeah gaming nowadays it's just so profit driven and that's the problem rather than releasing wanting to release a really polished product which back in the day a lot of game developers did then now the game developers unfortunately are forced to push these games out due to the company the overhead you know saying you have to push this game out after we got profit to go profit deadlines whatnot and it says turning into a big business where you're getting this as a result you're just getting gains at a sloppy yeah exactly do you want to mention the Mafia 3 update yeah so we got a mafia 3 update and you know that's not looking too good it's still not looking good but apparently there's some performance fixes I haven't actually tried these but you know people have got mafia 3 and they're like it just ran like ass I haven't played it then this update may improve that experience so you might want to go back and update the game and see if it still works there's also some big news on the Facebook thing as well I forgot to bring that up the Facebook launching their own games platform now yeah so do we want to go to QA will go to Q&A now we had a Q&A we also tech a cab showdown tax showdown is holding a giveaway as well so i'll put the link in the description once the videos up in the archive and you head over there and you get this whole list of steel series gear to give away siberia 350 headset apex and 500 keyboard rival 300 mouse a quick Dex mousepad as well so and there's also some goals in there pretty cool goals Oh keV do you want to talk about the goals yeah yeah so I just checked it in a check for you guys but so what's going to happen is it's because it involves obviously my channel Brian's and playtech TV what we're doing is once we reach a certain amount of entries you'll be getting different video rewards so once we get over a thousand entries Greg from playtech TV will do a video where he's going to take an older cpu or GPU whatever he can get his hands on and then he's going to try blow that thing up like make it so pretty million catch fire first is going to be trying to do it straight through software when that does work which would probably won't he'll do physical things like taking heat sinks off while going and torture tests and other things so he's going to try blow that up for you guys ah then at five thousand entries once we get 5,000 people and I will do a video where I'm going to shave my beard off and also probably get a like a number to haircut or something so my head actually drying levels that's it patek City cut I see I thought that would be that would be funny because a lot of you guys have been telling me I should do something like that and then at 10,000 entries ah brian is going to be going out and doing a public unboxing so once we get over there Brian will be going out and doing an unboxing at a cafe or a mall or something with whatever product he has so you guys really want to get it right over 10,000 entries because that was yeah then you get to see all three and also we're going to be doing random spot prizes so even if you enter and you know you might not win the big steel series with like full peripheral set but you may win our spot price as we go along which will be quite cool and we're going to begin giving out a few of those so someone said for you to clean up the hipster look my VA the tech city card might be the best way you know sir so yeah we'll go to QA we'll head over to Q&A now and I'll actually pull up this facebook games platform thing but as the last yeah sort of yes so unity and Facebook team up to support game developers now let's get something I mean this is just yeah it's in the early works but apparently this has been in this has been out for a while so it's not it's not really um it's not really new users ver just coming into effect now I think so it's been sort of hot around their tech community at the moment of what do we got here so i'll try and paste this in we get this up so is only Q&A is what would bring in QA as well bringing the questions yes I'm you're watching you watch the questions I'll start talking about this so essentially now with Facebook right with Facebook they want to come in and do what's teams doing the problem is Facebook's renowned for just taking data mining and whatnot and taking it to another level so I think that's I made me as an enthusiast I am really weary about this because you know I don't want to plan a Facebook freaking platform because they'll just be ads popping up everywhere that should be data mining me to crap so you know really not a negative before we even do any research and go into the topic I'd be like no thank you facebook I mean hey steam can take a little bit of information here and there but me and steam have already built up this trust you know based relationship and it works you know it's just to add to one of the questions someone said as they cover a worldwide yes to this so yeah there for you guys yeah you guys want to get on board someone also us what keyboards we are using I am using my old trusty razer blackwidow from this this is the old-style one the which still features cherry MX blues which are my favorites which if you are aware i'm a big fan of cheery makes such as and the blues my favorite how about you Brian what are you rocking yeah i got this side this is my travel keyboard the philco pick it up three dollars that's what I love about it's three bucks pick this thing up for three bucks so that you know the only thing wrong with it I think is the tab key doesn't work yeah the tab key so I was like never use the tab key accepting counter straighten that was funny because I only discovered that when i was playing CS go on and I'm like trying to check the scoreboard and I'm like hey this tab key doesn't work I guess I guess someone else was a CS go play and you can change that you just change the hot key to something else so I just changed it to caps lock absolutely fine so but at the moment my main keyboard i'm using the azio is I can't really pick it up because it's got um I drilled a hole through the desk at school cable managed and stuff but see as your RGB I really love the back plate and the way the keyboard is design it's got blue switches of course you know i'm a big blue fanboy I've said it for a long time massive blue fan it's got blues on it it's amazing keyboard RGB backlit and I was just shocked because this is just like when i first tried it I just fell in love with the keyboard now I do arguably I want to try the top Bray capacitors as well I've tried them before and I love those switches as well that's something I've got my eyes on at the moment is the top r a capacitor so if you tried them the thing is the Coulomb asked the Nova features them hmm I don't think so ah no I don't think I have okay yeah well you got to go and try because they're amazing yeah I've just been i've been a bit behind really with all my sort of peripheral stuff I'm just sort of getting because it's just been a GPU sort of crazy season so yep um I mean getting through all that but uh no I haven't quite yet just reading through so yeah cross-platform facebook at home and I'm not really looking forward to anything out of face now I mean yeah if you play bejeweled it's fine like bejeweled fine that was actually a pretty fun game you can pick up on a web browser but when we come to serious gay if they're talking serious gaming I'm just going to stick with the platform's you know in origin arguably origins gotten really good over the last year especially so you know the origins steam work pretty well for me you know that's what I use at the moment so I guess so also green hand gaming as well we have we've been talking a lot off in off cam and whatnot up in twitter and skype and stuff like that we're going to make something happen around christmas time should be around Christmas so we're going to make a collab it's going to be absolutely off the chain it's gonna be yeah it's gonna be it's gonna be crazy so looking forward to doing that with the viewers and the fans as well so they've been requesting it for so damn long as like you know you got to do a collab with green game you gotta go to collab it like yeah sure you know so I've been speaking to him for a little bit and it's really really cool guy really nice guy that's why I like to do I like to work with nice people and awesome people from here on in like you know especially off at recent things that happen I just want to work with awesome people regardless you know regardless of if their contents not as good as person X or whatnot I don't really give a it's like I just want to work with good people now and a story so yeah and you know I I would say the contents better so yeah man we got a question here for you Brian how much do you bench ah bench press man I'd like I got like I got done with arm benching hard like doing heavy weights because I like now the moment I do you know 30 kg like you know just basically barbell and you know yeah 15k on one arm and stuff like that I just do like pretty much a lot more reps now because yeah like I don't want to tear attendance you know it's the worst thing if you go so hard you're just going to tear tendance and it's a pain in the ass like yeah you put too much strain on your body and said like now I just been getting to the rhythm where I do cardio two times a week or and then I go and do you know weights the other two days a week so no gym four days a week and i'm really loving it you know so that's just my regiment at the moment so yeah now that makes sense man I think that when I was gyming hard out before I was going to try out for the army um all I was doing was just endurance men low lower weight and just heaps of reps so just you know like five kg dumbbells and just do heaps of curls and stuff like that hit that rowing machine heart out and do stuff like that be I would see guys man at the gym this is you'll get a kick out of this guys at the gym that would come in go you know over to the bench and then they just bench some huge amount and then that would be it man just bench about you know a few times get up man and then we just walk straight out you know look like a boss you know yeah you're that doing giving up on that look and then and then yeah and then they would just leave we're always I would stay for a good you know our two and just do heaps of you know high reps no wait i mean i can do is i can do three reps of 1050 oh yeah it's it's our I it's not like the best but again needs to see a like afterwards you know you it takes a toll man yeah you know I want to keep my shoulders in good Nick as well so yes I'm just reading the comments we got some comments um a little be gone when we got so sit here to stay Christian it I just one thing I just want to answer wait you have to try out for the army art was for the reserves you have a they have physical like requirements you have to be able to run a certain amount you have to be able to things like that you know do you have to meet the requirements that someone someone said can you knock me out with your GPUs like you come over here will test the broken 7970 that'll be the first one if that doesn't knock you out we got the strict sium and this thing's got some way behind it or the arctic cooler so we can test either all that's what I guess that's what the back plate was designed for now back leg was designed by knocking out knocking out your viewers who I request you to knock them out on your stream so come over come over and get a nice hefty back plate to the face ah we got a few few others why did what how kind of comments that I say what do I know about the giant phobia radiator 44 x 200 millimeter fans for 60 euro I mean if it works if it works well the results are out there and it shows to make a difference and it's quiet and it's got everything you need then arm yeah go for a day I mean everything in Europe's a little bit more expensive otherwise in other places in the world so 60 euro might be a good deal too so but honestly I mean like a lot of these radiators like I've got a 360 mill radiator as well it's overkill I mean and you know the best thing is to balance if you got a water cooling setup the best thing is to balance it so you know have a good block have a good pump and maybe have a 240 ml rad with two good fans on there so I rank and see us go at the moment I'm the one above silver elite at the moment I just got into that note I think it's no overall what it I don't know they're these I got the one star there so I'm on the level above silver elite now so I'm feeling pretty good at the moment oh yeah so someone that someone said a crunchy or creamy peanut butter crunchy for me what about you right uh creamy yeah I'm a big fan of cream and whenever I go get a coffee from a place i'll be layered chuck cream on top now the peanut butter you know you there's two types at the supermarket you have the crunchy one which is lots of less the rougher and then you have the smooth one which is like your butter or yeah I did the bottom a jury yeah ah but I won by a oh yeah creamy bro creamy creamy all the way here someone else said Kevin have you heard about the social network for gamers and tech enthusiasts called gaming tribe maybe you want to check that up Oh like a I've heard of that but yeah I just haven't yeah i mean i've been asked for a while I just always been on the back of my mind unfortunately I shall take a look into that over the next week we're to talk about that yeah because I'm Oh a few people have asked me for a while and I've kind of like been lazy and you know for that like yeah I'll check it out I'll check it out I was like oh I want to get on to building this computer so yeah that's the truth there so i will check that out gaming tribe yeah I've actually get look really nice people have asked me to join and stuff so yeah now let's go we got another one here is a zoo protoss or Terrance so when I was playing starcraft two heavily I was a diamond league Protoss player and then I switched to zerg and then I got up to the top of platinum but I never got into diamond as zerg but yeah so that's that's how I did dude did you ever play a starcraft 2 a stuck-up one gameplay both thought broodwar man i play that religiously i was like i went to wcg back in two thousand men back before they did the pre they had the first one yeah so you know I got flown over to Sydney and stuff I was a Protoss and taryn it depended on who my opponent was because I Terran you note and it's funny because in the original brood war Teheran ended up being good against protoss i love that matchup TVP um and I liked pvz with psystorm and so I ended up playing those two races and then starcraft 2 came out it was just a different feel man it like it just felt different the game felt different how so much better to me that around small to me I was more of a macro and in starcraft 2 you make one mistake you're gone like is it's on ya starcraft 2 is a lot unforgiving as opposed to starcraft broodwar it's a lot more unforgiving you make one mistake you gone you know and i think like start up the original brood war you make a mistake whatever it is you know you send a couple of vultures in they die you're still in the game that's what that's what I'm prettiest grab a starcraft 2 was just unforgiving and you lose one battle you've got to be on point the whole time and it's way more micro intensive in my opinion like raw food wherever was so it's kind of like yeah like I don't like that aspect of it but same time I still are the same i play terran protoss depends i'm not a big hug player I love playing Protoss a Terran and got it so next tech pick up next tech up be cases I actually picked up a few cases back here I've got to Tessa Raptors I didn't build a heber pcs so there will be a few more pc builds coming got this Panther stuff here through a pace it's actually pretty good stuff you know 3d gear gigahertz memory ddr4 memory so you're stuck there going to review that and other tech like the next technically other really look forward to him won't know i don't know maybe i'll keep that a secret keep that a secret so okay there can be a secret for now someone said is it worth spending extra sixty dollars for the i5 6500 k over the 6400 k what do you think the was to say that again the the is it worth spending the extra sixty dollars for the i5 6500 k over the 6400 k i would probably say are the 21 6400 k what is what cpu were talking about there there little I fives from there's no there's only one k Varian isn't that and I'm not the case I mean I'm sorry I said that wrong just a normal 65 are absurd yeah I've got it now yes sorry sir ah no wouldn't be that's huge if they're both high fives that's a huge difference there i wouldn't spend the extra 60 box on that i just save you money yeah for sure son also said did you guys both go to the University yet I went to unitech the bachelors and engineering so specializing in automotive how about you Brian to do you yeah went to whether my local griffith university is funny because I high school man i bombed out like I just got into University under an IT degree and I thought yeah i started doing programming and i hated programming man it was like as like as I love gaming I was like oh you know I'm naturally going to love programming and no they did two different completely different things like gaming and programming man yeah yeah so like anyway I found out this is the way you do it but I don't know nowadays if you can do it but back when I was at university you could um you could take on a different course and get credits for that and then just switch it over like say for instance souls in an IT degree starting business and then after six months it just boost my ratings up and then I was just legitimately able to transfer my degree and then bring those courses that I'd previously did from the IT degree and get credit for him in my new degree so I was just like it was like hey high school didn't even mattered so I was actually in hindsight I was glad I did all the partying you know rocked up till the exams after all nighters at high school because it didn't matter in hindsight because I still got away with it so and then you know in university I ended up jumping up into the top five percent of students in the last year so I was really stoked about that because you know university is like I want to be here I want to study this you know in high school I'm starting all this crap doesn't even pertain to my you know what I want to do so ignored half of it so yeah it's awesome and so that's how you do you neyo guess just a wing right wing high school and then when you get into University try really hard that's my advice to you guys sir plus you know plus high school incorporates a lot of bias as well even university to a degree right even university if the teacher does like in high school or in high school sorry in high school the teacher doesn't like you you're gonna get a bad score regardless I had proof of this my sister was a journalist like she you know she was working at a newspaper company I was in year 12 and we were like shits and giggles because like from my english essay i didn't try it all and i still got to see and then the next time i tried really hard man like did my yards got like a sea again so my sister my sister I just said to my sister Jay this is a joke you know can you write me up a whole article she wrote it up the whole thing just head to toe man and I got a b-minus and like yeah we just love like I showed it to other people in the classroom and they just laugh they're like dude I can't even barely read this it's like that good like because they know all the words and stuff and all the terms and it was like my mom went into the teacher interviews and pulled her up on it and yeah she just admitted like she barely even read through it she read the first like paragraph then just gave me a b-minus loss lands disgusting him because least she fessed up otherwise believe it's just in a general it's thats how it is high school Hilda you know you need to take it somewhat seriously but goodbye by comparison to uni and that's what you do but but you need just the environments better everyone takes it way more seriously it's more fun the people you meet there you know you're usually a great great people that you do with and see there's that said it was really good so are you will take a few more questions guys and then round out the show just whatever any other questions you guys have left now I got a question for you get Brian what's the what cpu or GPU are you most looking forward to that's coming out well it should be coming out in the next I 12 months from now we go yeah easily easily Vega and then I'm really looking forward to both those Zen probably the most the most thing I'm really looking forward to Zen out of anything yes you need to menu platform new platform completely new architecture from AMD it's going to be exciting right that's something that everyone's looking out for myself that's probably the most hype thing i'm looking now for Vega as well the high-end AMD cards I'm really looking forward to that too you know like really looking forward to it so hopefully that comes out and it's really good so yes they're the two three how about yourself how yourself I would say is in probably I'm more curious to do with Zen but in terms of what I'll actually test it will be vaguer there's probably the one I most look I'll put it this way i'm looking forward to vega the most in terms of making a video review about Vega but i'm looking forward to zen the most just because i have much more curiosity to do is then you know to do with you how powerful it's going to be everything else so I think I'm probably most they're probably even into in terms of what I'm most looking forward to i would say probably what I'm least looking forward to out of all the main sort of hype think's going on right now would be key be lake is just i know i think i'm glad they are really excited for it honestly I'm I mean it's still cool you know and i'll check it out for sure on my channel but I just I mean how you really super psyched for it or am I am I alone in this are you super psyched I'm not super psyched but I'll be excited for any new tech handing you just anything new oh yeah well I mean eating should be honest me just me just getting a new cpu in and overclocking it is exciting because it's a different cpu to the one that i previously overclocked so yeah I mean that's in itself as fun so you know are people in the comments yeah 2500 k in the 2600 k there they're two of the best CPUs out there ever like those two CPUs were just phenomenal you know 2500 k was just the cpu when it came out and still is amazing cpu you know people get number 4.6 4.8 they're just incredible super use the Sandy Bridge overclockers they're still relevant to this day to sodium yeah yeah exactly yeah it was not why did it down start one down the show unless there's any pressing concerns from you guys in the comments one concern was where was t and he's right here so you guys know chill out yeah sir Brian what would make this the last question ah Brian what's the difference between the e 50 for 50 and the X 54 oh okay yeah they're the arm they're the LGA 771 right there the two variants now one has a higher multiply that's the x for 60 but it uses it has a higher power rating so people say that the e 50 for 50 is you know 80 watts I think it's 80 watts versus 120 watts gdp by that i mean real world you'd have to get the power meter out and test both these cpus to see how much real world power consumption of it or how much of a difference there is ah but people say you know because the EV 5450 has that low power draw it's much better for overclocking that's valid but it still has the low multiplier and you still have to you know hammer up the motherboards northbridge more so to get a better overclocked out of the e 50 for 50 so they're both good CPUs I mean if you've got a really powerful motherboard I'd probably go with the year 5450 you know what I mean if you got a really really powerful motherboard there with a really good cooling on the Northbridge and whatnot I'd probably go 350 450 you know you can overclock it to you know kingdom come I mean it'd be you're still going to be bound by that silicon lottery how high can those four cores go the X 5460 just has that higher multiplier so for me personally it's a lot easier to work with with cheaper memory yeah on the ddr2 side of things so it's up to you guys I mean yet they're both good CPUs I could recommend them highly recommend both of them I think you can pick them up both of them for like twenty bucks at the moment so that's the difference one's got a little bit of a low multiplier and adds got better power drawer and then the others got the higher multiplier but it you know draws more power so yeah there you have it so it's up to you which way you want to go you know me spending time with both I would know actually haven't I don't know if I've got a new 50 for 50 year but I'd hazard a guess that you know depends on your motherboard if you got a weak motherboard I'd go at the X 5460 because you know drop drop it up a little bit get the most out you can out of it and you know there's those caps and chokes and MOSFETs they're generally designed to you know put out a lot of power before they blow so just depends yeah but oh yeah maybe maybe the e 50 for 50 is the better pick up hmm I got to try that we're going to get one in and maybe compare them cuz yeah yeah that'd be interesting yeah i think i love you would like that I see you guys that skinny run out the show it seems like I put the link there again in the lecture for you to enter the go away don't miss out guys you could get yourself a full set of peripherals great steelseries peripherals these are all ones that I recommend as well we're not giving you bad stuff this is good stuff that you're going to be getting so you're definitely going to want to intern there because I mean why not man I mean you know why wouldn't you it doesn't cost you 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