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we'll cut it again so what is up guys episode 4 of the tech lounge i'm joined by cab showdown will say it again how you don't give hit show it out um you guys still going crazy i'm joined here by brian city um Kevin now this era name's been real good for um let's show actually jump into oh let's talk about your um yep clothing okay so okay quickly Luke lets got the new shirts true third shirt bang the shops up their tech city so shop spreadshirt com / tech city go yourself true hurt truth hurts shirt you can even get your your girlfriend wanna if you want or you can get whatever so there's shirts up there go grab one but we got this pc are built here as I'll sound before so the audio should sound really good now and we've got this pc 51 50 watt power supply 7970 fork or a gigabytes of ram is going to kick ass i'm going to put call of duty infinite war for infinite warfare on there because the games $32 now how what I'm going to do with infinite warfare right is I'm technically I'm going to fly over to Europe by by the game and activate it and then fly back to Australia what okay that that's for the record okay uh yeah yeah so that's how you say you get it for 30 to distrain dollars which would be like 20-something USD I mean that's dirt cheap for a title that's just been released incredible yeah so you know that yeah have you been doing anything the last week ah yeah just one of them is under NDA so I sorta have to keep it to myself till tomorrow but yeah if you're subscribed to my channel you'll see it drop tomorrow morning but yet so just been doing that and checking out a few other things trying to get through the 1050 and 1050 TI videos so i'll be doing a showdown with them very shortly as well and quite impressed so far they were there pretty good for I Nvidia's really stepped up nicely with their entry-level GPUs this time around I'm actually pretty impressed 10 50 to 70 ti yeah I mean yeah they were going to come in hard when we saw the 1060 at 200 ray you got the 10 6203 gigabyte edition you you knew that they were coming in are the terms within the 1050 GI I mean that went without saying especially you know I saw the RX 460 performance and it wasn't that good you know like we're comparing that to a 70 TI and people out there apparent 29 50s as well it's kind of like this thing should be handily beating both those cards but really it was really strange it was such a drop down because the 470 was so good in terms of value for money of your audience like the 47 he's just superb so yeah that was quite interesting but I should we talk about Zen then so yes it wasn't long but first up we were aimed ease n sub at reg processes now this is the funny thing okay so we've got here when they did the blender test they'll compare it to it I'm pretty sure as a 6900 ka was the eighth call from internal right yeah now we've got here the rumors that are coming in 250 to 300 us now this angle is going to have performance similar to us 6850 k which is a six hundred dollars if you now me personally I by the 28th pcie lens this over 6,800 k here I've got the you know 5820 k their the six cores that matter right there the six cores that are coming in right 400 whatever yeah and they perform just like a 6850 k2 right you're only buying the extra pcie lanes so who in their right mind is going to start comparing it to a higher priced CPU that really not a lot of people are buying you know that's what I don't like straight away from the gate guys like let's compare this to a four-hundred-dollar CPU ok so MDR releasing a three-hundred-dollar cpu with two more cause that's going to perform similar to a six core from the competitor that's a hundred more dolls that's what we're looking at now realistically let's cut the crap out of the news here and you know that's is that realistic sure they can be releasing the CP or three hundred dollars but what I don't like is that it's got a Coors vs 6 on the Intel if it's performing similar doesn't that tell you the IPC is going to be maybe twenty five percent less if it I don't know right so would ya yes it's quite bizarre this because that a picture they have underneath that says in a core 16 thread and then beside of a core 60 three broad well II which is the 6900 k yeah so I don't know why the top of the article is the 6850 k that's a 6-core that's all me immediately I know why they think a lot of viewers are dumb that's why but not not the audience in tech city they're not dumb these guys know their stuff men like it's funny because a lot of the guys in the audience you know sometimes man they pulled me up on things and I'm like eh I got to look knowledgeable here folks but now I mean it's it's yeah you're completely right and if we look back to AA has Willie like what you were saying um yeah it's I mean the 6900 k is effectively a 59 60 X isn't it with you with the course disabled it's pretty much the it's very similar so 60 out 50 x year 69-58 yeah 69 yeah yeah and so so yeah I think it'll be quite interesting but I always worry about this from AMD because a lot of times they're marketing and they're overhyping it's really misleading and they and then when people actually get it to test they will have performance I'm not doubting that Zen will be a high-performing cpu I'm pretty sure it will what I've seen on paper would lead you to believe that but I just worry about them saying you know it's going to waste save 6900 k yeah half the price or something I mean that's a tall order to deliver on so yeah it'll be interesting but I thought what what also as interesting as the little sort of spec sheet you guys can see there is if you look aim d Raven Ridge which will be on the Zen architecture as well if you go down the GPU architecture on it I'm guessing this is going to be a very high-end apu since it only goes up to four course is Vega so that will be very interesting also so yeah quite cool and also that they're saying it might be running hbm memory that'll be what its supports so could be very interesting there on the APU side of things could be hotting up in the future too yeah ap use I've they're getting okay I mean there have been always okay but you know there's still wears that yes isn't there never comparable like to a discrete cpu and GPU yeah that's still kicking its ass you know what I mean so yeah I'm not me I have to see it to believe it on AP use but the Zen especially on the cpu line in the aim for motherboards we have to see something we have to otherwise AMD are done like pretty much yeah exactly exactly and I mean they got a good from a marketing perspective because they can say what they're saying already is around forty percent IPC gains on Zen compared to excavator which is pretty good from a marketing perspective it's because the excavator is so old now but I'm you know still 28-nanometer but for Intel's perspective with kb lake I mean as people are saying it's about a one-percent IPC so I think from a marketing perspective they'll be able to exploit that but we'll have to see in the real world how well it does and a lot of people are very very interested because if this does good framed even it's going to really hammer Intel in a market that they've almost had a monopoly and yeah but when I see performance equivalent to I 768 50k it's kind of like I I get worried because you know yeah sure it's gonna be 30 dolls but this is gonna be their flagship right they don't have any more than eight calls coming out on a in fall like this for enthusiasts it's overclockable so it's like you know they're gonna need a 12-core to compete with Intel's 8 I you know I'm sort of why wasn't there it is extinct or coming out or is that just for I think that was just for lulz vampa service oh you know yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah cuz I thought eight core would be the I mean they've been they've been on about eight cores for a long time now going back to ya bulldozer was a core as well so um yeah if it would seem maybe backwards to a lot of people for them to go down from that so make nothing is is it you know is it possible this will come out of 300 us and I think now that I'm look right if the performance is on our when the 6850 k then yeah I think it will be coming out 300 us if the performance is on par with a 6900 k then you can expect to pay more for this thing so that's all that's yeah that's that's it it's it's a bizarre thing as well because it doesn't they never said how they were at least I can't remember if they did when they were showing the comparison was that single threaded or was that multi it was multi-threaded it's still low compared our 6900 k that's thing you had eight years a state cause like and you hadn't roughly the same clock speed so it was really lean good yes it was really looking good but now we're kind of getting these articles out and I'm kind of I'm worried you know I'm like okay because it was only a blended test ride we didn't see any other tests we didn't see ya you know especially the cinebench which I'm really looking forward to because that's just like raw you know grunts yeah yeah no to be interesting in the single threat of performance as well because that's what will count for a lot of people up there you multi-threaded is fine and you know it's good especially if people were using it for productivity stuff which there will be probably a market for especially if it's coming in at that price point um you know people that are looking for a good workhorse type cpu but they don't really have the budget to jump up to say something like a 6900 k which is a very expensive cpu yeah I think that'll be very very good for those people out there with you it's hard to say right now but i can say personally that i'm very excited and i hope it does well not because i'm being an AMD fanboy but i just think intel really needs the kick in the backside to make them either drop prices or really start to innovate and they need the competition i think about would be very good for all the consumers out there it would be man it would be we need this competition we need it soon otherwise you know it's just like yeah i've been i've always been then cell so lazy yeah I've been a bit I've been cautious about and this is like when I read these like this again I just get more cautious so aim DS n you guys let me know in the comments what do you think do you think it's going to be the best thing ever i'm hoping it will be you know like I'm optimistic about it being the best thing ever but when I see news like this I kind of get down because you know i'm looking forward to something new and i'm sure a lot of other people are but that being said electronic arts rolls out new disclosure rules to extreme is in influences do you want to take this one a week is you're well-versed in this yes so basically they're they're saying now this is something i've talked about a lot in the past with tech reviewers and game reviewers being biased or being bored out and something I've sort of rallied against a lot but es you know doing something really good so basically what's there's going to be two types is going to be supported by EA and advertisement so if it's supported by EA that means it covers all content that EA has supported such as through invitations to events or shows or coverage or travel expenses here will have no direct influence over the creation of the content however so that basically means that EA has taken a game reviewer something brought them to a an event they have tried out a game and then they've put out a video about it yep and so then they would have to say right this supported by EA thing well I don't like that one that one's my favorite I like that one yeah yes that's nice and it lets everybody know so that's for any youtuber streamer active influences as they sang and they will now need to run that watermark at the bottom of their video or whatever so that's really good and then there's the advertisement and that's for pretty much they're just saying actual advertising so content that EA could have editorial influence over or content that EA itself has created so that means people who have been paid directly and have made a video for them they will need to say that it's an advertisement for EA or even if I don't think they're being paid but EA has some creative control over the video that they're doing and directly then they'll also need to say it's an advertisement so I think this is very good I think it going to be good for a like game reviewers have probably had it pretty rough I mean I even saw sort of like headlines about it here about them a lot of people losing faith in them a lot of them being extremely caught out by halves I happen myself ma'am and I read these game reviews it's like these things the best in the world then you go play this lady this is me do command it shouldn't be getting the school is it scary but i like i like the band supported by EA sounds good second ones basically you're getting that review but it's really a showcase you know what i mean like hey let's yeah showcase but let's call it a review i mean so the second one's kind of like yeah you know do you even want to watch it kind of thing so i mean the first one supported by a okay these guys have you know here I've given them a game or whatever and you know they paid for a few things but they're still gonna have their own opinion which is good so I'll be looking at the first one and being like i watch content with the first hashtag the second one of my just like we okay cool I'll see you later yeah I mean again yeah I think it's gonna be good for our people and it will tie in well with what um steam announced that we talked a little bit about last week and that now every game on steam going forward from I can't remember when it will they'll start to enforce it but they will not be able to run like artwork and things like that for their games pictures you know when you're going on the store to look at a game to buy you'll have to use in-game screenshots only so that people as I say it's called the no man's sky effect that people will actually know what the games about because a lot of times it is confusing you don't actually know what type of game it is because all the pictures they have it just art works at once which do look nice but people need to know what type of game it is and have screenshots so they can really understand what they're buying so I think that's really good from valve as well yeah so I got asked in the comments cabbie lake has been a release that's been leaked on NCIX so I haven't heard of that yet so yeah all right you want to know my go and check it out I got rolled by wccftech again all like this thing you can't even close this thing down like again I see you can't even close it down like like what the hell oh my god is it terrible like I put on our block as well just for this one because it is ridiculous I'm trying to do a stream here I've got this freaking add dislike pop and right up in my face that you can't even close down and a trickle down yeah we're just scroll down and ignore yeah but it'll keep running adverts layered which keeps me so we'll close this tab off to wait on the basic coffee late let's talk about it another iteration that's coming out on 40 nanometer like I thought Intel's new strategy was like tic toc toc or whatever it was but like now it seems like they're changing it again because coffee lake is 14 nanometer again but this time around interestingly enough we're going to get a six core 12 threaded cpu on their mainstream motherboards apparently hmmm which needed to happen a long time ago to be honest yeah i think this being stuck on oh no but that that would be in their graph it's coffee like x so wouldn't that be there enthusiast series not the standard line nothing is coming out to the standard line like I say any more Intel mainstream chips without six calls you know so februari 2018 so you know the obviously the you know the other the X line is going to get their their hash of treatment probably 2019 you know who knows when that's coming out because it still get a really sky like X and you know but uh yeah people are saying in the comments i got this military ads because of my haircut was good i like is a high face i love ya it should be really interesting and I'm very surprised that they won't be dropping down to seven nanometer which is what a lot of people would be expecting so hopefully they do because AMD will reportedly be dropping down to seven Anna me too for their CPU release in 2019 yep so be interesting to see it would be funny actually that AMD would be a hit of until even though Intel's been creaming it for so long and they should be the ones leading and AMD chasing so that would be very bizarre situation if that was to come to light but it could yeah is this being one hundred percent confirms because I don't know just rumor mill man Superman yeah I like it's it's it's remember stuff I guess I wish we got we're wccftech ride you know so we'll close that down they can keep their military advertisement star citizen is this now we're gonna go straight into here like star citizen you know no one wants to touch star citizen especially devil advocates you know what I mean no one like lately you talk about oh don't talk about star citizen man is the best thing ever known a man like no one ever touches this topic star citizen right all she ever hear is it's coming it's coming it looks amazing the demos look amazing and you know the demos do look good okay some of the demos do look good but they look like far from finished right far from a finished product I mean very far yeah you know they've ever simply released this demo where you know these guys would team deathmatch in space or something it look like a mix between a battlefield and cod with you know massive amounts of stuttering and I mean this is 100 and like whatever 120 million dollars i mean it's like when does when does someone just start putting their foot down and saying okay this is dragged on long enough like when are you getting a product like not an hour for or whatever you know it's like I remember seeing when starcraft 2 right we look at Starcraft 2 for example that was in alpha I remember seeing that an alpha now that looked like a really polished game even in alpha that was ages away from release this was like ages before release you had people testing the game it looked amazing now yeah this is an alpha it's not it's not even an alpha I wouldn't even call it or they offer it just it looks like it's whatever you know point three of twenty percent of our fillet it like I mean I'm not gonna bash up it's like it's been so long now yeah people have been waiting a long time they just I mean it's a fungi I have tried it it's it is quite good I like the I definitely like the idea of effy there's a lot of Appeal there but how it's actually translating so far into an actual game is sort of being a little bit disappointing but we can hope that they will turn around just it should really be spit up heads this is a very taking a very very long time well you're longer the bottom line is this the bottom line is this trajectory of funds right they went up up up up up like really fast to and then now they're plateaued and now the trajectory of funds is going down down so in other words they better start releasing something soon or they're going to go out of business just by just yes on the trajectory of funds right so you look at business models right and they you know they do this that these guys biz their business models starting to go down now so um you know yeah I mean I saw another demo like this massive demo whether it is going through like just you know keeps going through this world and it's really big and all that but it was a bear world there was nothing in it and then like the ownership and then like they go drive a little bike and then there's this like Star Wars ripoff mission and I was just like old facepalming i was like oh god no yeah i mean i don't know it's times where i mean i'm gonna start putting my foot down because we talked about star citizen i think i talked about with joker like ages ago yeah and you know like he's just when's it coming when's this game common when's you know when are we going to get a finished product that's out there people can play and people can start obviously spending their money on buying skins or if there's a monthly fee or whatnot because you know these guys the trajectory of funds is going down it's going to be Boss tola soon if they don't make a break like the time is coming now for them to make a break so exactly yeah they need they need to get it together okay Jacob do you want to search you want to search NCIX i777 hundred k do you want to go search that quickly well I'm just we talked about in video quickly take away do you want to say anything about star citizen there before we go no that's all a but yeah okay you don't want to touch on with you just wanted a okay we're not going to touch on star citizen and don't touch on that your copy that a massive amounts of hate but yeah we got here in video games Nvidia and also the whole market the pc market share we can talk about that 2016 200 over 200 billion dollars has gone into pc hardware that is huge you know consoles have got 90 billion and arguably consoles have been doing a terrific you know ps4 xbox one whatever so PC hardware has a lot of money in it now actual console to console is armed you know it's doing a lot differently like so you know you've got consoles whatever they're selling for 400 bucks a pop now the average person would be spending a lot more on pcs per person right it'd be like what you know is people spend it like three or four thousand on a pc right that's 10 consoles well that would be at that tiring but yeah yeah most people I think spend around yeah probably 1500 to 2000 Australian dish would be what your tip median would be yeah yeah well saw mean this is really good news but at the same time it's like I'd still say console gamers kind of maybe outnumber pc gamers maybe yeah i would have been like so just because you in especially in terms of by Triple A titles and stuff like that so it would be that the kids as well I mean parents that want to buy a game system for the kids and I'll just buy that and it's much much easier I mean they definitely still have their place as much as pc enthusiasts like to think they don't the reality is they have a place for us it wouldn't be such a huge market for them but I just checked out this NCIX kb league yep cpu leak and all it is basically is this saying that the seven sevens yeah I seven 777 700 okay yeah I'm got leaks and yeah it's coming out with it makes cash four point five gigahertz and they're saying the price was 538 Canadian so 400 us and that's basically it so and this thing is going to be okay night no they didn't say it base clock is 4.2 yeah that's what I thought I mean dear so yeah I guess what the okay so that's all it was specially saying surprise was that pretty much what I think a lot of us were expecting any way I'll get in stock I see someone put up a screenshot of being in stock yeah you've got a hip got it yeah yeah okay that's what I was just looking at but that yeah but okay so it's not in stock anymore no they said i read that they pulled it down because obviously it will still be under NDA happily care so there's no there's no actual like there's no actual like product like no actual benchmarks and stuff here is cinebench coronado okay now okay guys you get if you're gonna like keep spamming and in chat like least make a huge news topic come on unless so we're meeting something else but I can't find anything else that were on kamaka anyway back to GPU shipments forty percent increase a nvidia pretty much up like the thirty-nine percent sorry thirty-nine percent EPMD shipments are increased twenty percent too yeah awesome right so everyone's doing better here Intel's a I guess GPU would you'd say there whatever their integrated I GPUs yeah shipments were obtained person so I mean everyone's doing better it's really good news I lovely i love hearing news like this everyone's grabbing a piece of the pie yeah it's just because there's the new GPUs out now and I expect that it will jump even higher ah with MZ when vaguer comes out when we get the RX for 90 yeah I think it will do another big jump and of course in and video will get a big jump as well maybe a huge amount with the 1080i because it will only be the enthusiast buying it but um it also get a little bit of a jump anyways see ya I imagine because I mean I think of me but a bunch of everything right use GPUs are coming down a lot nuts thanks to those two hundred dollar gb is like GTX 1060 at 200 is really good value same with an RX for 70 that ya can be a little bit cheaper whatever those two cards are really i think doing a lot of or bring in a lot of people into pc gaming because it's like okay time to build a pc because you can get a GPU that performs really well at 1080p like extremely well and you know it's cheap it's it's not going to break the bank so I think those two GPUs in part would you know doing really well so the value is definitely there in pc gaming i'm really impressed with what you know both those companies are brought to the table with the sog bees i think they think they're actually really damn good yeah so that's I guess that's another driving force is that it is a really attractive market too at the same time so yeah exactly i mean it's really good right now for pretty much if you're a person in the market for a GPU to upgrade which let's be honest that's the most important part of any gaming pc because that's where you're going to see if the biggest difference in terms of performance right now is really good for the mid-range because you're pretty much all the mid-range GPUs have come out you've got the 480 and 474 AMD and you've got the 1060 a high sublime the 1050 TI probably doesn't really count as much but you've got the three gig in 6-10 60s yeah and you might be able to get yourself cheap 1070 as well so it's really good for the mid-range we're just now waiting on the high ends because right now you've got the 1080 basically up there I know you could say the Titan XP but let's be honest here the alienating saline high end one and and that's where we that'll be it would be interesting going forward with vega obviously competing i very much hope it blows the 1080 out of the water because it would be very good and then the 1080 TI as i predict will then blowww figure out of the water so that's probably what will be happening going forward and that would be really good and then you have the full range then you'll have the entry-level 1050 1052 m 460 the mid-range 474 80 and the 1060 and then you have a good high high range there 1070 1080 1080 TI and Vega yeah which will be at least two GPUs the people saying this is going to be one are kidding themselves it would definitely do it maybe it'll be two definitely yeah 490 and a 4 90 x that's the main thing you know we've won it will be a slightly trimmed down version that the 490 will probably be to go against the tents M&E and then the for 90 x or whatever that'll be the 1080 killer which will most likely get killed by the 1080 TI because they'll be running the same GPU has the new Titan yes yeah see that'll probably but that'll be significantly expensive so yeah it'll be interesting how this would be really good and some people are saying your fury too ah I mean I that could be true but um yeah and people III don't see Vega blowing the 1080 TI out of the water I that would to go against that Titan GPU would be very um yeah that would they would need they would need me they would need a new architecture to be honest I don't think any we don't yeah we're not gonna get that at a gcn I don't think yeah its carbon I do that yeah yeah exactly and I mean they might do the Georgie hbu what james edes done in the past so yeah sure that's a great prediction i think that there'll be a very real thing that'll be to Vegas together on my pc be that will probably see that do if you could be a fury x 20 or whatever yeah that could be a furious yes 02 yeah something like that so um yeah but very interesting yet it's probably what I'm I'm excited about sin but I'm more excited for Vega just because I think it's going to make the GPU market if it does well really really competitive and let it be great I'm really excited for Vega because I gotta say invidious drivers and especially the GeForce experience and like telemetry all this crap there as their drivers are going to like in video if you guys are watching this please fix your drivers up make shadowplay back to what it was get rid of telemetry and i'll be happy you know happy as larry man this it's stupid what they're doing with these Dre is disgusting right yeah like I I'm trying i get a performance hit just for clicking and just for having shadowplay even ready to go like you know come on well you guys get rid of this account crap for geforce experience just make it back to the old way it was I really didn't like that I really didn't like yeah now i'm recording i'll take a quick snippet for a video I'm doing and no I take a snippet I've got to wait like five or six seconds for this stupid message to come off and on you know recording a do i click the freaking hot key like you know i know i know i recording there's the icon there telling i'm recording as well like it's really shake it sad face palm lights because facepalm they did with the software like okay just when you install in video software just have it noob option person who knows what he's doing option i'll click on that one you know i'll click on the burden knows what he'd do an option and give it to me you know raw baby known as the ulema tree crap none of all these you know noob messages popping up shop some people might like that but is just i got a rant about it because it's just it's pissing me off lately when I've been producing content why not you know yeah and it in AMD like I installed these 7970 the other day and they've got the options that minimalist install and then they've got this software and the minimalist install was so good it just installs the driver which is really cool like you know aim dear I'd say this day it's true like people argue it I'd say yeah and these drivers are starting to get better than in videos which again it blown me away it's like what because once upon a time I remember once upon a time AMD drivers were terrible yeah here so it wonder-percent correct so it'll be it'll be very interesting going forward there and what ties in really nicely with a us talking about drivers is sub 6 which they're saying that the direct x 11 hour versus direct x well performance on nvidia is pretty much identical um what's this admire e yeah yeah we're gonna do that now oh yeah we really had that are coming up we'll do it now though since we're talking about it yet yeah well I just thought were talking about drivers and that's exactly what it is like with that Nvidia you know that it's not really that good on a video but AMD on the other hand you all see big bigger game so we've got another word here sit sid meier's yeah or Sydney is Sid Meier Sydney Sydney is my eyes I think it was I think you're rusty I said I think you're my I just want to take a different perspective most people don't usually say they say 76 you know you just say you wouldn't say the whole thing Sydney aya yeah okay then we look at Sid VI is a civilization 60 x 12 sts well now they only test this on nvidia cards at the moment apparently so got the performance benchmarks yen and dry you want to do a drumroll okay yay all of a difference okay so we got here d x 12 verses dx11 and you know you've got more the thing is you've got more GPU utilization apparently with arm dx12 but you're not seeing you know you're ninety-seven percent versus seventy-three percent and you're not getting any difference in results so yeah like I mean this dx12 update is kind of useless right yeah I mean hopefully this will be addressed in the future it is still early days so this will probably be sorted further down the road but I yes still quite shocking early on and in general if we look sort of back against that have come out AMD has generally done quite a bit better in regards to dressy x 12 then nvidia but a lot of people also say that's the reason that nvidia released such good directx11 drivers that there isn't such a huge discrepancy where AMD maybe their drivers on directx 11 are not as optimized so I mean yeah it'll be interesting hey let's let's be honest lady x12 has been crap so far we we haven't seen anything realistically good out of it yet I mean I'm burying you we've been getting trickled out like that's the bottom line with a x12 everyone's IDs well Windows 10 you got update the windows 10 I was the same I was on that same boat all you gotta update that the XP and Windows 10 to get dx12 looking at it now it's just been a complete flop well yeah I think it'll get better in the future that I honestly I don't know if it will man I mean I'm worried when are we gonna when are we gonna see like a game that's just built from the ground up it's just a total kick ass on d s 12 and you made like ripped x11 so old though I mean we can't see how nice everyone goes to what volkan but it works it's it's working just Elevens watch yeah yeah that's better than the Eckstein it's better than dx9 is got you know less overhead than the x9 and you working better and yeah dear 12 is just don't turn out now dx12 taxon the GPU more and you're getting the same frames whoa so yeah I mean Vulcans definitely are people with Andy graphics cards have seen very good games yeah Vulcan Vulcan is good Vulcan has been good especially with doom that was impressive especially not really i mean the gpus was good to see a GPU side gain that was really cool i really like that had also people with the dual xeons man with all those threads and really we're talking like jeweled GTX 1080s could now really utilize all those threads on Vulcan that was impressive you know I saw one guy with the did you know the jewelry that I had he had 210 80s or something and it's just you saw all those threads just being utilized to kingdom come that was a really cool thing bespeak yeah but we were just jumped off drivers but do we want to jump back on drivers right apparently the video released a 737 5.86 and it was like leaking memory had that was down clocking the memories like severely and then they released another driver recently which apparently fixes it so oh yeah there's been a lot of problems lately nvidia drivers if you guys are running them you will notice the amount of drivers coming out lately it's been I should just go over the edges just go on the title mass like nvidia drivers in turmoil we should just start doing it so yeah it video disarray and then you look look at the real news that GPU shipments about forty percent they're doing better than ever but ya gotta do a new age sin and spin on this a nvidia drivers in turmoil companies about to go bankrupt yeah this is love it it's far from the truth yeah yeah it'll be fine it's just a little hiccup they've had I mean but the having a lot more lately used to be one of the biggest things to do with and video that people liked was how good the drivers were on by comparison to empty but yeah lately they've been dropping the ball they hand on the heaven yeah we got here we got here the Z 270 fatality motherboard has been pictured have you guys argument so it's got it's been pictured it's got Joe and I see which is pretty cool for a consumer motherboard especially for the fatality as well on the consumer grade motherboard and that's really cool like as what I've been doing some pretty solid things like I like what they've been doing with motherboards you know me personally I'm working with them pretty closely as well you know you've seen a few motherboard reviews because like when when the x99 boards first came out I was having a lot of problems on other x99 boards i tried the asrock board freaking bang man hit every point i hit every nail on the head and I was like ever since then I've been loving a lot of asrock boards they haven't they haven't really let me down like I've had the faulty one whatever here are there they know that one that I had in the States but I'd say that was an open box from microcenter wasn't really you know I can't really put pin the blame on asrock for that one but um you know yeah I really you know I've really been liking what I've seen out of asrock and this you know i'm looking forward to their z 2 70 series even though i'm not looking forward to cabby lake yeah i mean it's it's going to be interesting i see the rear I oh really interested me that two Ethernet ports that are we quite good as well you have little happy yes it'll have you have one yeah Jill wireless there because it's got the two rings there so ya know this looks quite interesting I think it'll be all right I mean what you said about x99 was true for me as well I mean yeah and when I read about a lot of people had trouble on the x-plane I was like when it first came out of his brutal man it was brewed yeah and these were like I tried the Ezra pause it was bliss it was like oh this is the way it should be right now I 5820 KS he's just running so well everything works on-board audio is really good too though something about you know has rock when they get hit with x99 the on-board audio was extremely good Mike Mike into so yeah I'm Tibetan yes on to some babies AMD raid on gpus limit HDR color depth to 8-bit over HDMI two so kind of kind of weird i think you know who's sort of liked it i think they're both think you know the people who make the standard hdmi to or like no it's not our problem we've got it in the standard and then and he's like well we can't do use it because and i think Andy have i'm kind of believing AMD on this part because they're ready allowing it to go over displayport 1.2 and not so you got 10 bit color depth over those over displayport 1.2 and above but you can't get it over hdmi to so something going on here and looked exactly what you know entirely sure what's going on here what the problem is and why they kind of get it over the hdmi to point I standard that yeah so this is something it's something software wise um bandwidth wise hdmi 2.0 does as good as displayport 1.2 so this definitely something funny happening here um but yeah i mean in terms of when these came out hdmi to point i was very good and AMD did take a long time to implement this on their GPUs which upset a lot of people that you know things like the fury x didn't feature hdmi to point our which at the time all the high-end nvidia graphics card already did so yeah not not the best but i think this will be something that's addressed relatively quickly through some sort of software fix yeah it will not be a hard for a problem I would very doubt it's a hardware issue yeah I to do with hdmi to point out yeah right on yeah all right call the Judy go pick it up 32 docs been in warfare I had that up there because I was going to buy it I was going to use it in that pc that I just built so this is the yeah whatever sub 200 USD call of duty infinite warfare pc that's going to be hitting the channel i'll be testing battlefield one on it to see how well that Ron's I'll be testing a few other games like csgo we're gonna hear a little Julianna Sarge man he's getting astroturf you know apparently WikiLeaks yeah government control now WikiLeaks is under government control Assange has not even been seen for 30 days I only might even be dead um you know like he I going to say he had a huge influence over those us elections ready like some pretty damning stuff on Hillary like knows you know um that was crazy right so you know II this is a problem if this is true there's truth to this then I feel sorry for the guy I mean what the hell he's just trying to do the right thing by public and society and show us what we're really being exposed to you know mmm yes it's a scary world man that's like an end Dave scary world that we live in if this is you know if this has got this is carrying weight to it which it looks kind of like it does you know it could although I be very moving I don't know how he would die in the embassy well barely Dallas a viral hoax claims wikileak this is another article but again that these guys aren't really providing any proof that this isn't oaks kind of thing like you know this is just mm-hmm it's kind of like you read the to the twig town article it man it's more believable than the other article i'll say that so yeah this is actually pretty soon pretty damn scary so apparently WikiLeaks is not even under control by Julian Assange anymore the rumor is is that CIA and another department came in Boston yeah which will give this up because they were saying that the Democrats are saying that that you know WikiLeaks was leaking stuff stolen by the Russians um it would be straight you know but it's hard to say right now it's all just rumors so I think it'd probably be better if we wait till there's something more concrete to go but this is I mean I was leaking secrets pre-series is scary touching like those see it's a freaking scary dude like you read some of that stuff man some of that dirt it's terrible like I was watching this thing I just I don't know why I popped up on my youtube like she was a hillary was like in court like demand it different like they're like why did you let these people who requested more security detail for like years why did you not give them more security and she's like oh this started like literally just started like deflecting so hard the whole thing and they like look at this you'd basically you're doing it you take their just telling it straight up you're doing a terrible job and yeah she's like oh no no no I'm just put like just it was just so bad like you know if you're in the states you should be glad that Hillary didn't get elected of anyone that like goddamn and I think a lot of feel felt like they didn't really get I mean it's sort of like how a lot of my Australian Prince says well that there's not really really good choices out there yeah um right now with just sort of the downfall of democracy but the thing is that anyone but her like the goddamn and like anyone but her like just yeah okay yeah we'll see we'll keep you guys updated if there's something happens with us but as of right now there's hey this just went up 50 bucks just no way I had this up before this this monitor was at 350 before it was the og 27 inch 4k monitor it was up like I failed as a damn i wanted to say like if you guys wanted to get a 4k monitor that's absolutely kick ass it's got free sync and what night it was like 350 bucks before now it's gone up to 400 so it's done yeah so do we want to I'll talk quickly about just something I wouldn't talk about the community but the if you guys want to leave any questions for us we can't start gathering some of those up just anything to do with like GPU CPUs anything maybe also going to do any questions you have to start shooting through to us guys and we'll yeah I've seen but the but I just wanted to say um to do with the community I've made a whole video about before we get on to that will quickly plug these oh it was a giveaway giveaway is over 10,000 entries Cavs gonna be shaving his head in his beard is going to go for the tech city look you know he might even get some military ads popping up on his browser soon and and then we gotta i'll be doing a public unboxing no ETA on that just yet but there'll be a public unboxing coming soon a lot of people requested a strip club but if I did if I did that I'd have to ring up and say look can I do this event and I have to make the video over 80 litre it afternoon bring cameras yeah actually yeah true you can't bring cameras and they go well of course I wouldn't know but on that they get the a you know you wouldn't be able to yeah yeah just eye when you get in more trouble just do something like a busy cafe or something in a downtown tiberio something that would probably be pretty good or or Westfield or something okay yeah okay so we got a boy everybody loved it in last article d last article promised you guys then we go to Q&A everybody loves overwatch is somber do you want to talk about sombra oh yeah forgot yeah I'm see a summer is out if you guys play overwatch you might have tried her she's very complicated to play she runs a SMG that's like an Uzi and so it's very high rate of fire it's quite good she's a bit of fun she takes a while to get used to I don't know right now she's overpowered or under palette honestly I think she feels actually pretty balanced out of the box which is quite impressive but um yeah it's just a bit of it's a fun new hero to try out so if you play overwatch and you haven't tried her idea here we go she is quite cool there's she's like a hacker and you can stop people from using abilities and stuff like that so yes pretty some bro ok I haven't played it yet i've just been busy making all this content I'd love to let's see if I do one see much of the mighty and what I was going to say about the community was some one of the saddest things I see a lot of times then this will Brian will be definitely in here is it if you do anything that people see as not like everyone has this sort of idea of how a builds supposed to be you're supposed to users cpu you're supposed to use this type of thing and honestly it seems like if you go anywhere outside of that do anything you were creative the community will just pounce on you and say you know why would you run that cpu why wouldn't you run the i5 or something as the main one everyone says you know anything like that so I feel it's quite sad now that a lot of tech youtubers feel like they can't do very original or super interesting builds for the fact that the community oftentimes will so just jumping what are we talking about here like we're talking about old FX CPUs because I haven't done a bill I well the thing is I haven't done an FX build because me personally I wouldn't do an FX bill because even the older phenom runway better you know like you know for I remember testing a fork or lower clocks and it was beating an AMD for call this is like really recent and it's like you know people like oh but that were true for callers versus you know new you know for cup it doesn't matter right it's like damn AMD really with that FX lineup it hasn't come fired all right and so I guess it's his AMD builds maybe because you know and that's I mean people have I guess maybe people have a valid point in that regard like I'm for me I would always go the old-school Zeon's they just kick ass like I'm yeah because in man some people might go on feel about it but not the odds Eli haven't copped a lot of hail a if I call paid for using old Zeon's then my the boys in the comments will just go at that person's like this is hands down the best value in the common out yeah yeah you just can't argue with an old xeon especially like a 5670 or what not like those on zealand to just kick ass you know you got yet like someone in the comments the 1100 t eats the 6300 dots it smokes a man this is such an old cpu and the FX 6300 like there that still technically there later cpu out on the market for a six cool so yeah i mean if you're referring to just AMD builds it with on the CP oh no I general it is in general it seems like I think they end with jumping on people a few results are different in a benchmark to someone else's or anything that I'll say this person got this you're wrong blah blah blah you know type thing so yeah I just think in general it needs to be less a sort of hive minded you know you think for yourself and make your own judgments about things so stop just repeating what you've seen someone else say really think for yourself when it comes to tech and stuff like that do your own research yeah so yeah we know the website is coming as well we got a new website at a whole new website tech city TV it's coming we're getting a revamp forums everything a really good friend of mine he's just said look Brian your websites and dire straits brother you need it you need a makeover I just said I couldn't agree more Bravo my previous website was terrible so he's done he's getting the forums up as well he's going to get forums integrated into this it's going to be the whole nine yards you know it's going to be awesome so yeah the new website will be up I don't know the ETA maybe give it a week two weeks but it will be coming so a new website is coming so I got us out other questions and we've also got the there is something really cool coming to in the channel as well I was speaking to this Russian guy really cool guy he was given with DLO on some pretty cool stuff so there is going to be a very very interesting build coming to the channel I don't know how long it'll take but it's going to be freaking cool yeah so you it should blow it should open some eyes should really open some eyes up this thing is gonna be awesome I can't wait down this build so I someone bought a 12 31 p 3 yeah if two hundred nine dollars goodbye that's that's you know 12 31 33 is an awesome see be human so yes I now saying that 4770 is still a great ship yeah it was that's what I ran a 4770k for the longest time although yet by comparison to the 47 90 k and there was kenyan they temperature difference when actually did the showdown comparing the two of them together we did that 47 90k were an a hell of a lot cooler yeah then the 4770k which was a very hot running yes cpu Hall voided that did that heat up horn also said is it worth waiting for the GTX 980 TI or the RX for 90 I would see if you're if you're in the market for a really high-end GPU right now I would say just wait because you haven't got that long to wait before either of those drop and then you'll be able to make an informed decision from then so if you're an enthusiast you're going to spend a lot of money on your next GPU you went want really high anything yet wait around well with the with the waiting thing it's always the question of can you wait right for me if I'm on I've got a decent grab Scott at the moment yeah I could wait for another year right but if you're on like say you know HD graphics for an instance and you want to play those games maybe you're going at a 10-7 II you know yes stop stop hurting yourself you know what i mean so it depends if you're hurting yourself at the moment and what you're on so that that's what it all depends on so I honestly I'd Wade out if you can wait out of course it's always good to wait out until the latest and greatest drops because not only does that drop with its you know whatever it's going to offer to the table but it also brings down the price of other cards more importantly so that's exactly sort of be good for everybody out there right now I think I think it'll be worth it someone else to said will Andy have a tone XP yes as I said earlier I believe they will probably bring out a jewel GPU based on Vega and that will probably be what they use to go against the Titans and get us to 1070 the one tied next period honestly just get one 1070 and then just hold out for the 1080i and then get that and then yeah so you take a minute yeah and then you can tell you tell you 10 17 you'll just you know probably lose like 50 bucks on it so that was the biggest mistake so many people made last time they bought the time next and then the 980 TI came out and the ninth et I got almost identical performance at about the half the price yeah so i would definitely wait I would say that that will be a similar affair with the 1080i you'll see very similar performance to the time XP however you will it'll be at a significantly lower price point see if that'll be interesting to you last in the comments do Australians have pens yeah got a pen got a screwdriver to okay ah yeah not much else so if you guys have any last questions for us you want to just shoot them straw yeah sure there you go sorry about the audio issues at the start of the stream I'll cut that out of the stream when it goes like to archive but yeah won't happen again though I don't know why I did that automatically is like it automatically changed it back to this realtek thing it was like damn you know yeah what about sin fall hat I will get that made up I forgot about it this weekend look I've been I've been on my game up and where I'm wearing my t-shirts you know we're wearing the t-shirts I've been giving the judge our mug on cam every week the tinfoil hat just has to come now i agree i did a tinfoil hat for the whole stream that's gonna be coming soon late okay son year late ladyboy someone kids he's asking the whole episode about ladyboys I had a pretty cool experience I wouldn't call cool i wouldn't call it cool this was not not last time i went to that guy the first time there the first time I went to Bangkok I arm this was the first time it ever it ever occurred to me right I was oblivious and now I went into the men's toilet right I went to the men's toilet just you know do my thing and as I was taking a piss there was like i looked like i looked to my right and there's like a chick like you and then I didn't realize was like yeah I freaked out like am I in the ladies toilet like well what the hell like is there someone in front of the mirror just doing her hair I were doing his hair I don't even know what you you know to do that and I walked outside i double-checked I'm like yeah this is the male's toilet you know like yeah and you know known as it went back in you know finish off and um I was slightly yeah that's a ladyboy I know that's a legit right people and it looked like a woman like literally it looked like a woman like everything I was just like holy shiza you not I mean so yes that's the thing I don't know so yeah that's it ha out of all the questions you guys asked yes I mean he kept going on the stream yeah that's the second time I went in Bangkok I never really had any um never really had any hiccups or anything any interactions there so yeah yeah this is this one is quite good this week Google will made this our last question because it's quite a good run by a techno Steve he says hey guys what is the best GPU for streaming at 60fps while playing on the same pc so streaming and gaming in the same PC he's running a I 546 90k that's a very good deals Kenyan GPU I cpu and he's running okay aftermarket cooler on asrock z97 so if you're doing that personally right now um I'm guessing you're playing at 1080p also and streaming at 1080p I would say yeah probably the 1070 would do you very well um that should give you enough I do you agree round two and 74 a 46 money k streaming gaming 1080p dear yeah yeah that should be a good model of 1070 should be more than enough especially if you're overclocking or 90 so let me know ti if you pick them up yeah you could do that a lot cheaper as well so it depends on what you got when your budget is but yeah 1079 TI there's they are just ridiculously powerful cards you know I mean they really are like you can eat the turn 80 stupidly fast and then of course if you get the 1080i coming out that's gonna be even more stupidly fast so you know and then you get the iron ore that are known for 90 come out of whatever Amy's going to do our X 4 90 that's going to be a really nice card so you know they're gonna be nice cards so yeah you'll do well so it's a maybe if you can't wait just a little while longer to avega comes out which i'm telling a lot of people looking at by high end GPUs because i would say it will bring prices down definitely nvidia will probably do a little bit of a drop in anticipation for so yeah that'll be enough sir alright guys uh that's about it we're gonna wrap this bad boy up i'm going to head to the gym overclock myself and juice and then finish up yeah willing to finish up this pc as well so that's just got installed the games on it too so pretty awesome pretty damn awesome so thanks for tuning in guys we'll catch you next week in the stream awesome stream sorry about the audio the start what not guess so we'll catch you next week peace out for now and I great see you guys yet actually got a close to stream down