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so there we go boo welcome back to episode 10 of the tech lounge i'm joined by a cab from tech show down how you doing keV doing great Brian how about you man you feeling a bit better a bit better yeah I woke up this morning like my the left eyes finally get I'm in my right eye is finally getting better than the left eye like this morning is a little bit puffed up I'm like oh no please just let it end you know when I get back I want to get back to making content so hopefully that's not as bad as it sort of as I'm worried that it might get too but besides that yeah everything's been going well it's been really hot for some odd reason like extremely hot so how about you / in / the ditch Chevy um yeah it's it's actually been not too bad really but New Zealand doesn't really get particularly hot summer you know if it's a hot day maybe goes to mid thirties type thing but it's nothing really excessive wear you know Ozzy start getting all the way through the 40s i speeding up it sort of you know unbearable um I just notice that the chat seems to be disabled smell yet to I will fix it LOL to those so them hey just there wouldn't be so it just wouldn't be a show without something wrong with it yeah it's so good just that I knew if people could complain they would all right go at a guy's the chat is enabled so with any tech pickups for the last week as well did you get anything good um no like oh I started back doing videos so I did it the g one gaming GTX 1060 unboxings get into it now made a video just discussing my thoughts on Vega and pointing people to come join us in the tech lounge we've talked about it more extensively so a year but today will be good i'll go to play tic after the show stun today and i'll pick up the z 2 70 kb lake system which is waiting for me and then i'll be able to start my kb like testing with retail ships 7700 day i'll see how many I can get out I'll definitely get both you know the high five and the i7 um but maybe i'll get be able to get more than one so we can see how much of it discrepancy is there and overclocking but we'll just have to see how that goes but what about you man you picked up anything you know this am picked up a bit not another xeon i mean i've been actually been a little bit what I was sick as well I've been testing this this is the qh 8g now it won't work on a-z 270 definitely no but I'm I actually there's an ebay sale so I ordered some old z1 70s that apparently this ship works with so this is the chip that I've been holding out but problem is it's at the end of the day I'm probably not going to be recommending it that like because it's actually a hardship to work with so this one you pick it up in around about 100 us and yes a fork white thread skylake essentially it's like a 6700 k so you can overclock it's an engineering sample so you can overclock it's a hundred bucks but the problem is is actually getting it to work on a proper modern ward so I ordered some motherboards they're on sale off ebay so I ordered them for twenty percent off so the cheaper than the retail is here so looking forward to getting that done hopefully I can get it all working with you know custom modded bios and armed with the microcode injected and stuff but I will say one thing the Russians are really cool like those these Russian overclocking forums and I couldn't find anything about these chips like there was just nothing on these chips on any of the sort of English overclocking sites so the good man i went to the russian sites man there on that game these guys man they got like full-on look at all the microcode bin files ready to go there like this is how you do it this is these are the confirmed by haces working on these particular motherboards so they're really on their game and arm yeah that was really good to see their kind of their overclocking community thriving so yes no it's really bigger they're a lot more in tickets my most views by country Russia is like fifth for me on my analytics so the really high viewership I get from here more Russian viewers and Australians and gyllenhaal so pretty big from there but i also get more Germans than Germany's like my fourth most watch by country so yeah it's kind of crazy but a u.s. good old USA that's my number one to be this for you a USA's number you have cool yeah us is king like that's you massive it's about a third of my viewership comes from the US boldieu doc I said in another video it's like not just it's not just the thirty percent factors like like literally eighty percent of my revenue comes from the US yeah you know that's why you have to tell you cater what did I just do then you have to do you tailor your content aliens yes yeah yeah like it just has to be so there are no other two ways about it so yeah that's the CPU as well we're going to talk about the g 45-60 as well Intel's latest dual core as well we get into that topic as well but we'll jump into the first topic here this is the windows 10 so they're bringing out another update so you know like I I'm getting sick of these like you know every time you update essentially it resets the settings that have changes services around you know so I might have to even make another optimization guide I'm not too sure but this is it is the first optimization gotta did for Windows 10 was pretty good yeah you know that's still you know it's still relevant today but from is they change little things around it this time around they're promising to introduce this game mode and exactly what it does is still up in the air but what do you think it'll do Windows 10 game mode so basically I assume this will be very similar to what an anti-virus program would do a security suite or something would do in the in the sense that it's probably just going to turn off things you don't need while you're gaming stop things from updating namely I don't know probably windows update but windows updates been pretty good I think for most people anyways with not doing that so I think it's just going to be something like that but what they're saying is that you may not see what a lot of people are assuming is that you may not see any difference unless you're playing games through the windows store which is not what most people do I don't know anyone who plays games through the windows store I think the vast majority steam or when the other ones like that let you play or something else so yeah I don't know but for right now it's a cool idea for just windows tend to be a bit more streamlines I think no one would complain about that it's just the complaint will be if it's only for Windows the Windows Store or if it's for all of the you know if you play games through steam it'll still you'll still be able to put it into game mode and you'll reap the benefits from it well that's all they're hoping for we're hoping to put this game mode and enable it when we're playing not just on the Windows Store which is I think a lot of people are hoping for that and that's yeah that comes in then I mean that would be great right we can have our steam games okay let's go this dedicated mode drops all the services in the background I we're not going to get any crappy stuttering while we're Gary that's the biggest complaint i have with the understand and so I think windows 8.1 is a little bit better like I've noticed when I played games like dota 2 whatever you the latest 7.0 update don't get me started on that but I'm you know when I played a few games it feels like there is this occasional stuttering that shouldn't be there you know I'm not used to it it's actually a windows 8.1 when I had that Thun completely tuned to the max I'm just one you know is this going to be game mode is going to be properly is it going to be done well or is it going to be medium rare you know what I mean even though medium yeah exactly so where might just be rare right you know to me no one really exist yeah rare I know we're going to get one guy in the comments like a mistake rare but we essentially we want this to be a yeah a medium rare steak you know what I mean instead of just a realistic sir yeah that's a that's what we want so hope they can deliver I mean yeah it's still up in the air exactly what's going to go on with this update is it going to just be for Windows Store which I've got an inkling that it will be for some reason I don't know what's how bad Microsoft's been lately with a list commercialization and stuff like that and with a kb like as well being ah the fact that you require do you know if there's a way around that with the kb lake requirement that you use Windows 10 I'm not too sure I mean apparently doesn't I mean apparently just disables some services on windows 8 and windows seven like O'Hara Lee's like a lock it's just if you want to fully utilize your system yeah I don't know if you guys can hear that so I'm a parents arguing in the background I'll just yet midstream can you guys keep the noise down on live streaming Thanks ok there we go cool anyway like I don't know I tell them I'm live stream so yeah they're gonna start arguing but they that's all it's just Australia you know here the neighbors arguing dead meat the TV deliver ma'am haha but yeah so so it wasn't a complete disabled you can still run Windows 8.1 with kb lake it's just going to disable some let the encoding or well I mean imagine they have to allow it still that that would be like anti-competitive if they did that right i mean oh right if you can't install your Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 that you paid good money for I think what they're doing is they're they're just disabling a few little things I'm not exactly sure what's going on there but I noticed one thing that I will tell you one thing I did have a 0 70 and I installed a custom bios on it just to test if this chip would work and you know the funny thing is this is scary to the bios it was working completely fine everything was perfectly fine and went and backed itself up it's like no this bias is yeah I'm gonna we're gonna flashback the back up by us and I'm like who ordered this you know everything's working perfectly fine so there's definitely some funny bug is going on there with you know like a co detection and whatnot so yeah yeah now yeah they're funny but I think it's that's it to the comments just exploded after that out haha I don't know look guys I don't know what was a verdict they're gay this is just like they just decide like literally are right outside where I'm streaming like just to start having an argument I'm like oh SI Australian way you're gonna make sure everybody hears if they could just say Luke Bryan streaming at the moment we can go an argument out back you know what I mean yeah what we're going to talk about that a risin the four core which I hadn't well first off we're gonna go with cabbie lay this is really damn I've got to admit this is I've ordered one of these as soon as I saw the price it's like 78 australian dollars right we got the g 45-60 coming up oh the Pentiums yes yeah OMG 45 see I mean this is actually pretty huge news I mean a lot of a lot of enthusiasts okay they're rocking their i-5 still or they're rocking their overclocked I sevens what not there six course they're not in it care but this is actually really damn big news for that budget segment I mean you can technically if you've got a friend as well you can go and get a really cheap h110 and then flash the mouse and then you'll still be able to support the chief 45-60 it's essentially in the states i think it's like a sixty-dollar cpu you know something like 58 or something but here it's $78 at least I bought one from you might so hopefully i'll be able to pick it up today or tomorrow such big news this cpu to cause for threads clocked it I believe it's clocked at the 3.5 bigots yeah they said a hundred megahertz bump up over sky lake so I would know that sir I think the IDI 371 hundreds like 3.9 decodes but this one's three points oh ok hurts caaa essentially it doesn't have an instruction enabled versus the versus the i3 except the difference is though for gaming that instruction sets never use I think it might be a VX I'm not too sure hmm so it doesn't use a turtle instruction set for gamers it doesn't matter so they're not really cool product to keep so $64 us sorry I don't know why it's so cheap in Austin have seventy eight bucks that's what I'm picking mine up for so we can check out the 7100 which is going to be sort of like the go-to budget CB you yeah this is just so good for consumers from the perspective of like your once risings up as well consumers you guys are going to have so much choice when it comes to cpus you're not going to know where to look you're gonna have so many got all the pentium line obviously the core line up and then all rise and celina it's going to be fantastic so yeah pulled up the i7 7100 so that's going to 3.9 gigahertz so that's got a 400 megahertz clock boost which you know for double the price it really isn't worth that but will check the 6100 quickly and yes that's 3.7 so you can see the value here is insane like for this little penny and now one has to wonder you know same same level cache as well three megabytes so one has to wonder is this a pre-emptive move towards our oh absolutely sin absolutely yeah you think that your sources we are absolutely without a doubt yeah so you know why else would they you know do this if they had no competition okay I mean they would just run the core line up some more I mean what would have they really the Pentiums in the past for one they haven't had hyper-threading since the Pentium 4 and they've just been relegated to obscurity basically in terms of the gaming market on the G 3258 obviously changed that but yeah mmm still you know that it's not being the most popular with this looks like they're actually taking a serious this time and you know what's the reason for that is you know not just a coincidence at this time around suddenly they'll will bring hyper-threading back on Pentiums all of a sudden it's because of raisin absolutely Intel's just trying to over saturate the market um with so many cpu choices and intel making up probably about 75% of them depending on how many rows and chips come out but what I'm worried about this is the thing that worries me with the G 45-60 is you know it's it's sort of like it nvidia did this today md already right AMD's got there you have his card on the launch the nvidia just pumps it out a few months earlier cheaper price and that you know that's what nobody's got something big on the horizon now this is what's happening something big is on the horizon or pond and 10 yeah and you know i think aunt Elsie's that okay bang ji 45-60 and the thing is a sixty four dollars or in australia like seventy eight dollars that's gonna be freaking that's gonna be real hard to beat yeah that's straight off the get-go how the hell do you beat that like you're not i mean even if even if Zen is really good on the budget end how do you beat $64 with a free i'm pretty sure i have a freakin cooler included how you know how do you beat that that's insane value for money no it's just it's crazy but I mean the thing is you got to think how much profit is Intel making of those higher end chips oh yeah they can sell these ones for so cheap yeah I mean there is there is ways in that right I I'm all for companies you know jack and the prices up if we're getting a really big improvements because I earned if you pay for the R&J so yeah exactly so because you know upgrades aren't cheap but the problem is like cabbie lake really listens but let's be honest yes it's not an upgrade i mean the IPC is virtually the same but this you know this here the g 45-60 is looking like a gem and i was surprised when i started reading up about this i was like okay everything looks good on paper and I'm hearing early reports that everything is performing really well on paper too so you know it's it's damn here we go guys the winners already been released and it's kind of sad because I'm really looking forward to amd's launch but this is kind of really gonna blow the low-end out of the water like I don't you know I don't see it getting much better than this that's the problem yeah I mean we'll have to see at the time I'm with a lot right Springs you should say that's the problem too it's a she a really good thing for consumers oh yeah yeah it's good it's that's what it's saying before I mean you're gonna have so much choice there's going to be so much competition at all areas so i would say that there's going to be massive amounts of you know they'll be dropping prices both sides will to try you know capitalize on that um and yeah it's going to be fantastic for people i think you're the consumers are going to be able to get a very powerful cpu you know relative to the price that we've ever seen yeah your money is going to go so far yeah so I'm looking for the fork or option as well I mean it'd be interesting if Intel did launch a three core six threaded CPU that would be really interesting but one can only hope that would be a really cool sweet spot that arm there's also you know what are they going to do with amd's obviously got the fork or on the you'll talk about this now so we've changed topics to the four cores right am DS rising for course will take on the i3 and the i-5 and I think this is really true a lot of people out there going to want a fork or and if they can hit the market around 150 bucks then damn it's game on there so yeah yeah this is this is really good to see I think what people took a kind of the wrong way in that the sand when I said these dual cores with hyper-threading and very good yeah in the sense that you can play your games because the games only look for the threads they don't look for the foot the inner for the cause yeah we know what I meant by that is that you'll be able to play your games but I'm not saying that you would rather a dual core with hyper-threading than a quad core with no hyper-threading you're always going to want the physical cause yeah um it's kind of difficult to explain in it in a simple way but hyper threading is with the with the virtual cause it is not the same um you'll be able to get away with it in terms of your games you still be able to play the defense are you always yeah it depends on they always want the physical for yeah of course you want the physical cores are you want the floating-point yeah it's over there having two floating point units but I mean the thing is mmm yeah you still got four threads there it can still act like a fork or even though it's not a fork or yeah yeah the bottom line is there's not going to be as powerful yeah specially for gaming of all things yeah yeah I mean it's up in the air what you'd want to get but I mean when you get a jeweler you know did the 45 60 is a big deal because it's what 60 bucks I mean there you go so yeah you get a forty-dollar motherboard yeah hundred dollars you've got almost your bare bones chuck in some ram you got some bare bones they're ready to go so yeah damn but I mean look rison they've got their for call for threat interestingly enough this is what I saw on this article here for calls for threads so they're going to be doing what intel's doing sort of they're going to be sort of releasing skus with hyper-threading without hyper-threading whatnot if interesting to see their full cpu lineup and what it entails but yeah this is there apparently they're going to be launching it around March that's looking like the release date and I'd say that's about right on the money I'd say March is where you're going to be looking so much third it's going to be available on stores I'd say that's a pretty damn accurate to when you can see rise and being released and it's going to be a huge launch everyone's gonna be like oh my god how does this thing reform oh my god oh my god oh my god but I will say one thing I mean look we just looked at that g40 files get back on you Ryan stop talking about the g 45-60 i know but it's going to be hard to beat that that's all I'm going to say so if you love me if you're looking to go out now like you like look I cannot wait to build a budget PC and you've got a friend who can flash that by us on the h1 10 for you I think actually msy down the road here they were charging ten bucks to flash the mouse for you so you might have want to think about that if a store can pre flash the boss for you I think five bucks is pretty fair I mean they just quickly got the cpu there bang flash bang flash but um you know if you're looking to get a new pc new budget PC then you're not going to be going wrong with the G 45-60 that's all I want to say like no you simply want it's not going to get much better so yeah I think the Rosen will be interesting and also once we actually start testing some of these motherboards are as well I think will be really cool i mean some of these new x 370 motherboards for the enthusiasts look absolutely superb so i think what i mean most people if you're going with the fork or you go with that be 350 instead and i can't wait for that be 350 that's gonna be like yeah that'll be really cool as well so i think this will be very very interesting for a lot of people out there but hey I mean we can only say now once once all these are out then we'll be able to test them but I think yeah Intel's definitely prepare ring I mean it mean it I think it shows that they're obviously worried about Rosen because of you may be something there furred that we don't know about or something like that so that the fact that they're releasing all of these they're trying to over saturate the market right before raisin comes out as I mean I was you sir but there is another thing too I mean how is it going to really compete with the x99 platform as we pointed out last week there's only four slots of memory they're sort of like you know some people want it's not so mean there's also apparently only you know 24 pcie lanes so versus 40 right on x99 chips so yeah kind of a little bit you know what's their answer sort of if they do have an answer for x99 i don't think they may be no dare i say they don't have an answer for some of the x99 real high-end stuff which is where a lot of profits would come from four until I'm sure of that but it's okay yeah i think they make probably more of the the core range then of the extremes like the broadway probe made more skylight than they did a fraud well II or for stuff like that because of the x 99 s I would say the profit margins are much larger I mean not many people run it out of all the people I know yeah um you're actually the only person I know other than myself running broad Willie so there we go it's not that now it but I mean would you agree out of all the people me maybe if you're no more enthusiast than me but and all my friends are just do gaming they will just run i5s nice Evans did you ask him if they lived good come on valid question oh how are you going down this nah I would we're just gonna move on to the next time you so this is sad right game show me this article we're talking about we're talking about last week Oh LED monitors comin to ya too busy and lo and behold L goes and cancels therefore klo LED monitor project they're shutting it down there lighten up color issues you know you can this monitor would cost five thousand dollars if it hit the market and basically it had color shifting when you looked at it from angles and i'm sure people who are paying this money don't want this product and so it's one wise wise choice i mean they're in the business they're not in you know they're not running a charity surface here so I completely agreed like for them if they you know if they saw the outlook is being really negative and they cancelled it and that's okay I mean usually if you look at it I think there's that innovators curve right whoever puts in the initial rd always ends up losing it's always like the early innovators that end up picking on ya so maybe they'll just sell their project to someone else saw else will be like okay because you got to do this this this is this and then we'll have a pc gaming led model i think there's a huge market for it honestly like I think oh yeah I think there is a pretty big market for people who had just fed up with crappy white LEDs and if she could paying good money for it like me I'm hole now like I'm not buying any new monitors until we get some OLEDs in the back light yeah yeah not exactly right i mean this side change what we talked about last week which was a was it sharp i believe with their huge investment there 20 LED technology so with Foxconn I think so yeah I think I think that'll be good and so was that that will obviously still you know help things and a lot of other companies are researching and developing it more so this is just one sort of thing but but this is always going to happen you always use with one technology yeah there's always hiccups and speed bumps and they got her you know they run into problems or it's way too expensive mean 4k monitors when they first came out that no one could buy them but then you look at our cheap they are now so OLEDs will be the same the launch hi very few people be able to afford them and then after a few years later through efficiencies and other things the price will drop dramatically well while syncing with this right with this is got the oleds right I think what might happen even this is a possible scenario people will just start using your LED TVs they'll be like who cares about pc monitors when I can get such a gorgeous experience out of HDR led back with TV bang who cares if it's 50 inches and just seeing this adoption where people will start running these TVs and then you know the gaming monitor market be like what's going on while we sell in pc monitors you just hey you know we want the latest tech and the latest tech is 0 LED get it on the freaking panels yeah and you charge us reasonable price yeah I think we'll see it on phones first that'll be the first place because apparently that's what the technologies or four is the next iphone right now any worse yeah i got this out in caps questions of tech city ok will answer that in the Q&A it's coming up don't worry well answer that when Q&A don't worry it's coming up guys it's not too far off we don't have many topics this week because we did the show like a few days ago yeah yeah yeah we're like a bigger Q&A section this time so you know start thinking about the questions get revved up guys for Q&A but we don't hear the next article the zotac gtx 1080 mini so zotac i've done it but it's it's not as many as many of the people and that like the mini ITX ducky yeah it's still quite bulky from what we've seen in the past i remember some of their very tiny i mean even some of the tiny am 1060 who can get a much smaller I don't think this is a particularly good looking card either but does look very Toit though oh man it does look the week yeah I mean for those people that does I mean yeah that they're definitely going to be able to get this in there mini-itx built and you know getting a 1080 in there wow that's going to be that is powerful that's a winner that's the winner right there yeah for a little mini ITX i don't know how many people um do those mini ITX builds these days I don't know if it's increasing or decreasing personally I'll probably talk to play tic today is increasing sales guys I think think yell Isis sales guys if they're selling more than mini-itx stuff um yep but i'm not particularly sure I knew back a few years ago it didn't have a particularly big following and they obviously were people that were into it it is quite cool I do understand why people do get into it it is really cold the idea of having a very small compact pc you can pick up and trust me if you're a person moves around a lot that's really good you know chuck it in a bag or so when i was coming when i was doing all that traveling dude that mini ITX pc it was amazing dude so you know mini-itx species are incredible yeah they're really good you can pack all that desktop power into a small package and you can cool it properly you can drop a water cooler on there you can keep the noise down still there's so much you can do with a mini ITX pc that you can't really do with a laptop you know you're going to get those heating issues or you can't overclock or something and yeah yeah yeahs yata probably as mini ITX gives you that freedom and you built it yourself right you just kind of feel like you know you your prides not going to take a dent right you walk around with the laughs yeah people who know that you kind of yeah you're paying a premium for a laptop so I don't know yeah that's it and I do understand it so this is going to be I really cool for them those fans are actually a hundred millimeter which is actually a pretty decent size you see how big their regards to the heat sink underneath so that's that's plenty big for a little you know compact cut so I think actually cooling wise this thing would probably be all right judges know what it is and I think with zotac as well they've really stepped up their game I mean in 2012 right I don't think anyone even knew zotac were but now there are actually a really big name in the game which is really cool to see I like it I like seeing a manufacturer just come in and say hey I'm getting in this deal I want part of the road yeah I want part of the raw steak and then we're gonna cook it medium-rare that's what that's what they're doing well in such a cool so used to do very good specials when I bought my 780ti back in the day that was the zotac and just the reference model and that was only because I was looking at the time to buy a gtx 780 and then zotac had this special on for the 780 ti to be the same price as a 780 so I thought we would just buy that instead of the ego and off we went yes sir that was quite good as well so I have owned as otech card before and that thing was fantastic you're talking about steak I guess I want a steak you need to go to a steak house today yeah might have to organize cording to the GPU boost speeds we've got seventeen hundred and fifty-three megahertz on the boost up from 733 so it is it actually performs better than the reference card out of the box slightly with GPU boost three-point Oh it'll go up a bit more of us if it starts running in it temperature issues that will obviously be brought down yeah error I think that it would go just find the effortless those people so solid mini man that's a solid mini might be a well hopefully expect it to be a lower price than a reference or a founders edition but you know sometimes they make things more expensive you know this more yeah okay so next we're going to talk about vaguer again and apparently we have a release date which is looking like May so dirty for me this is what they recognize third eve of me which looks about right i mean looking at these release dates they kind of start to make sense i mean AMD at CES they didn't have really a production line ready you could see that right they had their sort of product that's still in the works they were using tyne XPS so looks like me what do you think about me yeah i think that makes sense computex that would be a pretty good place for it to go ahead i think yeah this is this was what we were kind of expecting around at that time as far as someone else earlier did i watch the girl gamer video about doing the mathematics for a yes I did what do they think of it well I think he raised some good points although it doesn't technically work the way he described basically what the video was is saying that Vega 10 will have 4096 stream processors that is the same as what the fury X head with the fiji xt GPU in it yeah here is basically he's making the case in the video that if polaris had 4096 stream processors pretty much if I put into Eric's yeah if you put to our to our exes to that combines the GPUs and it would be the same power as a 1080 so if there's any I see gains at all with vega over polaris you would expect it to be more powerful than the 1080 that is true to a certain degree but again when i did my rx 480 crossfire against a single 1080 it only one in one of the benchmarks Iran I'm all the rest of them had actually lost in so i think when AMD showed off that our expertise and cross way would be to 1080 they only showed it in one benchmark occur in which one it was and yeah in the real world i found that actually the 1080 in a winning now there was a while ago so maybe would driver changes now it might usually be um you know a bit better so yeah yes it'll be interesting to see a noble thing is meant like are you going to want to run to graphics cards over one I mean me personally I'd always pick the one graphics card right oh you will yeah yeah he said we got the driver issue we're not going to go into that but I mean look I'm hoping this will be one big card one big card it hits hard and it competes with the GTX 1080 now we've talked about this last week where we had the they're bringing in those technologies that sort of you know cancel out the pixels that you don't see doesn't render them picked a sort of geometry that you can't see on the final image it'll sort of cancel that out that's improving the efficiency of the GPU then we've got the higher clock speeds so hopefully this is touted to be one really heavy hitting card that's what I'm hoping yeah absolutely yeah this will definitely be powerful I think the I think it's pretty fair to say my prediction right now which is the video i put up just yesterday yet my prediction was that it's gonna beat the gtx 1080 by about ten fifteen percent performance wise um and i think that would be quite fair maybe a little bit more than a pro pro be at launch maybe if this driver changes and stuff like that there'll be improvements there but people saying that it's going to beat the tide and XP which is what the 10 ATT i will be will the net so not very then okay then anybody themselves are comparing it against the tightening hmm yeah and another thing that's very overlooked by everyone is that amd's through some of the features that says this is aimed at the professional space as well the same way the projo was to a certain degree for VR developers so I think this is a gaming GPU but it's also going to be aims Pat's the more professional site as well not just entirely there so which is kind of what reisen is trying to do as well but as we said earlier I mean like is it really going to hold much over x 99 for those people who take productivity stuff really seriously yeah maybe for the people that aren't super serious about and just want just do a bit of photo editing and stuff on the side maybe it'll be great for those people but yeah it's it's it's there's a lot up in the air right now but um it was an interesting video to see but there's definitely there's no question that Vega 10 will be extremely powerful 4096 stream processors that's not like being around each beam to you know this is going to be seriously powerful well that's the thing the opencl performance is going to be huge on this thing like wow because obviously a lot of people wondering i'm looking at the dates as well like they put a good point here it's almost a year after the 1080 is launched I mean there's a lot a lot of time everything that's probably why invidi has been still doing what they're doing with the GeForce experience three they're looking at making money in any other way but the GPU itself so yeah yeah I'm Kyle's I was hoping for a January release like I was really I heard rumors that it was gonna release this month I was really hoping that would have been the case I think you know starting off the new year with a graphics card that just competes with the 1080 and then it's something new it's got the reliv update but holding it off until May that's you know it's it's a long time like it's another four months away still you know people want their graphics cards and they want them now especially with verizon launching people are going to be looking to build new computers they're going to be looking to build your computers and if that hits in March then I I guarantee you people aren't going to hold out two months to buy a graphics card so what's going to happen then he named dr inadvertently going to be sending people towards gtx 10-7 and even 10 80s and if the 1080 TI hits at March hell you could have them selling 1080 TI's to that's from their computer your competitor shouldn't be doing that for a competitor's product that's all I'm just saying so i'd love to see vega and it has to come out as soon as possible but i think that i don't set me anytime soon exactly i don't see it anytime soon unfortunately for you guys in the audience i see it coming and this release date does look pretty accurate and even then it could be delayed even more so it could be delay could be june thirtieth you know if it said the first half of 2017 so yeah a little bit worried i mean there's my busy of course we've raised all the good points but there's the doubt right there's there's a time oh yeah I'm got a lot of doubts to do with a go so the same way it was quite skeptical going into the RX 484 good reason it was way too overhyped and yeah I mean people thought i was going to be 10 70s and stuff like that and it just didn't come close well the RX fer is 470 i like the iris 470 it's 150 bucks and it performs great value for money yo you for money waste and how did you get a really good still doing the builds but yeah should be this week should have some really good content coming finally better yeah we're gonna hear the razor prototype it got stolen / leaders they had these triple screen laptops and they were stolen and then one of them's popped up on taobao which is a chinese auction site kind of like ebay it's the chinese ebay yeah as its rocked up for like what 20 1700 USD and like someone's almost so much money well yeah i saw a picture of linus uh taken off with 12 bethie I hope have been a joke but i made like this is pretty damn serious love soup people actually racked this and then yet and now they're selling it that's crazy hey no dummy did are they watch though they have a guy i mean i guarantee you the guy on the floor he would have been fired one of them someone someone would have been fired for this and they someone was super sneaky with it but I think meant you have a gun you should have a guy or always on the stock you know the shopfront sort of late looking over things hey I don't know I do you reckon the guys who stole that they had the distraction check yeah they would have been doing that they might have been professional people I medias actually when it first happened I thought this would have been like an espionage type thing I thought that maybe another company had someone take it and then you know take it to their factory or wherever and then they were going to copy it or you know reverse engineer it or something if they were gonna go crazy like that but this might just be as simple as someone just taking it I mean all the conspiracy theories about Linus taking it are quite happy but a man loves would rely to you get jy what the Linus why would Linus who's just sad yeah yeah yeah but there's some people actually seemed like it was serious but I mean I don't think Linus would bother mean Linus isn't hurting for money so this you know why would he why would he risk so much as all his reputation of stuff just stealing a triple screen prototype but only I want to talk about the distraction chick these guys would have had a game plan set up they would have sent the destroyer and the guy at the shop front he's like yeah that's right I'll work for reason yeah go check out this laptop oh yeah where is the laptop and the chick just bails but yeah these guys would I did a plan hitman this would have been friggin I gotta be as sad as it set as sad as it sounds this would have been epic to see go down like if you're watching from the you know eating the popcorn like it would have been sweet to see how they did it but yeah what I mean yeah they would have been camera so they should sort of figured out what what the reason was but know this it's a bizarre thing but yeah so whatever that if people are actually that's so keen on a three-screen I mean you can get you can get a modification right now for laptops if you want something like this I can't remember the name of it as an accessory that I'm you basically stick to the back of your laptop screen and then you can just pull two more screens out the side it obviously won't be a curve that I think but it's something you can't do so if you already want something like this you can get it i forgot the name of the accessory okay this is something gonna redo okay so get those q and A's ready we've got arm we've got here the switch will greatly talking about the switch it's coming out very soon I think when's the release data March third so much though yes something soon yeah yeah and yeah what's the things that you like about the switch um well I sort of only half-heartedly kept up with it but I think it's quite cool in that size wise um I think it takes what a lot of people liked about the wii u and which there weren't really that many things since it didn't sell very much but the the fact that you can sort of play it on the screen when you dock it but also then take it with you and play it sort of like a a gameboy type thing as am is also quite cool see i think it's going to I mean the reception so far has been lukewarm maybe it was outside self in mixed add next yeah I mean that Brad resolutions not really good but I don't know that ad was out of it man like hey let's get dressed to play the Nintendo switch slay huh where's the gun is underwear who's just going to like chill on the couch you know we've got here the biggest thing that I like from the switch is that arm the biggest thing I like about this is the legend of zelda yeah the games are finally but that's not finally then finally they've learned something from yeah from their audience to people they're selling the freaking consoles to finally they've listened and they're learning something and they're saying hey people want a zelda title so they're going to be launching breath of the wild and that launches with the nintendo switch which is looking pretty good but it's set to run at 900p dot and 720p portable i mean damn that 900p like a come up like 1080p at least we've got to do 1080p at least you would thinking this with the fact that their rivals was Sony and Microsoft releasing 4k capable consoles that sort of an Nintendo's not even got into 1080p it but I mean nvidia saying that uh it's going to perform very well because obviously there that's running a nvidia shipping at this time so yeah oh I don't know we'll have to see i mean nandina has never been about the graphics or any of that it's always has been yourself the way you play and therefore definitely was about the graphics the fact that uses cartridges again seems like a bizarre sort of i step yeah give a problem good to me man cartridges zelda this is reminiscent of the 64 so but the problem is the graphics aren't there this time you know like 64 did have kind of cutting-edge graphics on it i will admit one of the time yeah it was alright yeah that 90 900p in 2017 like you know like dude 1080p monitors like a hundred bucks you know like a lot of people to buy in 1080p monitors you'd want something that at least runs natively on a freakin 1080p monitor so kind of got to pull off some serious points therefore 900p but yeah but at least they're getting something right Zelda's launching with the switch i want to clap my hands but we'll go to Q&A so that's about if unless there's anything you wanted to really talk about with no the one thing i was saying is the fact that nintendo is trying to Nintendo's of late has been struggling with the image that it's the kids console and they're saying this one is they're trying to aim at more adults than kids the armed with some of the games and that but i think obviously that part of the market will still they'll still have huge amounts of game cells and regards to you know parents buying it for the kids we don't know so let's go so we got Q&A let's roll in those questions rolling those questions we're going to be answering for whatever yeah so let's do it for so a question for me either of you going to check out the asrock desk mini irish gtx thing looks amazing well okay use MXM GPUs and has three and built to drive slots in a Wi-Fi slot hmm i'll have to check it out man i actually haven't looked into it yet I mean I've got the desk mini I've got the one and that was really good i love that that was a little cool little pc i have to check out their new RX that's thanks for the suggestion haven't seen it but i will check it out definitely thanks Larry so we got no price on the cpu of the GPUs from AMD no official pricing yet I don't think on Vega or rising CPUs so yeah I think that's up in the air I mean we're looking around for vegas six hundred dollars for the GPU i think that's a pretty decent estimate and then for the cpus what do you think for the cpu is kev or GP is 24 Vega and rising um duh I'm not too sure at this stage hmm does anyone's guess that's pretty much anyone's guess so on yeah so Isis breathing so someone was asking about that question they had earlier which was have you lived with a bad pc for a week right o bad pc for a whit yes um yes technically yes um was it it was as well as well when it initially launched so i got my 46 74th for 670 que ya got that right i got it in and it was actually wasn't it wasn't so much the hard way wasn't working the bias was bad so they were just releasing these infancy biases and they had problems with the compatibility with the memory so for like a week I was just like scratching my head you know constantly crashing I was like what the hell is going on updated the bios and then all my problems went away but yeah pc problems are frustrating man trust me they're frustrating especially if it's your main rig so that's kind of like why i like to have my main editing right now and then like you have you you know if you can afford it get yourself a benchmarking rig or whatever just hardware that's proven and you know works and then you can tweet you and then you can sort of play around with your other hardware so and you know in whatever way you want to play with it so yeah yeah so we got asked if we will ever meet up in real life I think we will yeah definitely may eventually yeah it's only if we both at computex us yet then definitely I definitely yeah can't wait to meet up with kev too yeah we'll probably do a tech lounge when that when we're there if we end up being there together you know considering it runs for about what four days I think yep we'll probably end up doing something like that another question which I thought was quite good for Brian just to keep it keep it going yeah pentium g g 4650 best budget cpu ? a G 45-60 so best trip for a budget build a 360 190 more 4g 45 60 s going to be okay yes so that'll definitely be which c270 mobo from asia is great for gaming for 150 bucks I mean n easy to 70 s going to be great for gaming I think the gaming the the name the title is way over done now I mean not a motherboard essentially gaming should really just be you get a decent vrm solid Intel ni see on there and also a decent onboard audio if you're using the onboard audio I mean I would personally just probably invest into you know maybe a fee or something for your DAC camp and that way you can carry it on to all your future builds and then get those entry-level z2 70s with the Intel an X on them that'll be doing you pretty well you'll be in the mirror you know saving money we have an awesome audio from any build that you poured on to in the future you won't have to rely on the upgraded audio damn many keyboards loud oh sorry I just got this is the new ducky that's why they're there it is laughs you're in the monkey oh listen time delay don't just lose another thing it's over it's over bearing isn't it so um so also what's happening with security problem with six gen intel cpus not too sure I have to check that out and research it Kev's just showing I i saw i checked that out earlier yeah i need to read about it a bit more i thought it was a bit um it is something interesting but i would rather wait for more information to come out regarding it because it seems just a bit crazy right now but yeah I it is something yet that will be quite interesting going forward if there is a big problem with kb like in terms of security yeah so will we be doing any videos on rising hopefully i mean a devil is i mean like like launch launch date oh I'll launch day otherwise post-launch maybe one week or something so yeah do I work out yeah I did like I lately up in six so I haven't been working out much but I'm going going to try and go to the gym today I shall will go to the gym that I try and do a proper full workout my only get like you know sixty percent Donald whatever the yeah yeah just been so sick man like barely my dad like he got the results in like like the worst strain of influenza going around straya so Thank You Sydney for giving me that crap Thank You Sydney I gotta pick up the tone a little bit though I just know probably dead so I said sure it is a question someone said i 777 hundred K and a Zeus as e270 prime a good combo yeah that that would work there yeah that letter that would be just fine um if you're just looking for something solid um I can't see why not I don't particularly like the looks of the primate but well you always were q and A's are coming in so fast now sorry with that recommendation of the Z 270 boards as well I mean if the extreme for is around about 150 bucks I'd recommend that yeah oh yeah the killer SLI I mean this is a heap of good boards out there for the money yeah it should be able to good good overclocking with the primate penny mg 4650 I mean there is that another iteration of the g40 45-60 I mean you getting all these numbers in my head so if it's a little bit if it's clocked a little bit higher and it's cheap sure go for it interesting what laptop specs do you guys run with currently laptops actually don't have a laptop at the moment like my brother's got one I've got this actually I bought one in the junk session in Japan got it right here dropping a nest in its a AMD apu so i'll be doing a video on that hopefully can run league of legends and then i can make like a oh my god $100 league of legends laptop oh my god video would you guys want to see that so i only some is a you go to the states anytime soon me I've got no plans as of reason I'd lied I love going to Vegas if we go to States or love going to LA and Vegas and then yeah that's a I've Nessus been oh really damn me know someday I definitely want to go it's just one of those things to him guys we have to go make a GoFundMe get kev to the United States GoFundMe I mean that is I looked at GoFundMe nowadays all's it is just like people like health problems say man my legs broke GoFundMe fix up my leg something I mean okay what happened to the actual projects though like I don't see any projects on there anymore like hey help me fund this you know Oh LED light bulb development or something yeah I don't want to do it anymore it's all health things I mean that's I mean feel sorry for people who need help but mainly under the original goof on me like yeah yeah it seems like it's got a bit off track to be honest but yeah there's another question this one is actually really good any reason to upgrade to an I 373 50k from an i5 2500 k co for the people that are still on sandy bridge yeah um ah it depends how good of an overclocker is your eye yeah you're 2500 k um if it's not then potentially they could be a good reason to yeah the kb lake isn't a good ha that's sort of too harsh the one good thing that people like him at kb like is the overclock ability yeah um so that's would be one good reason but i mean if you're getting like four point eight out of your 2500 k which quite a few be worried a yappy something within well known that I wouldn't say there's any point to be perfectly honest you would still weighed out one more generation we're still hope I'm rich yeah we're still holding out for that generation that gives us a noticeable bump I think that's all yeah people are holding out for so then yeah I can't wait for the day that we get that so we've got asked also pink or brown what are you with give didn't are you are you aware of what this is referring to now I'm just Jonah are you detecting no cuz there's that pink season that album that came out to from arm from filthy I've never heard a better album in my life man oh my god a little things I thought we would talk about it do you think there will be any eatx Zen boards I'm not too sure ah hopefully there will be I'll of any sort of different sort of motherboard that's you know in the picture so hopefully there will be I'm not to as for me happy knowledge of it no how about you keV now I don't know knowledge of that yep um I think yeah Oh time will tell maybe David Williams thanked me and said not a question be just a shout out mega Phoenix thanks for watching men appreciate it love it love this is a this channels for you guys is with QA shoot thanks man so Leo's got a question he's currently running his computer off CPUs integrated graphics and he's looking to buy a new GPU should i buy 1070 or wait for Vega I mean that's four months so that's all made four months the question is can you play games is that for months this is the biggest question you gotta ask yourself is that few months worth the wait for me I couldn't hold out for four months on integrated graphics no I would I would buy I'll go look on wherever you believe there'll be a second you know place where you can buy second-hand graphics cards go on there and buy yourself just a something to get you by for the meantime um and just use that to get you by may be fine find yourself a gtx 980 or something like that something maybe a generation old and um and just to get you by until Vega comes out and then when beggars out then you know but I wouldn't wait if I was on integrated graphics oh boy I could I would just go out and and yeah yes Eileen get something cheap to get me by I used to do that when i first started my youtube channel because i was running sort of low on money i couldn't afford to be buying all these gross Scouts do showdowns for before I have play tic back in me I just went out and got myself a really cheap reference our 9290 is my just personal card to run in my rig when I had nothing else and it was really cheap because the guy was using it for Bitcoin mining so I had been thrashed you know like months and I and I just picked that one up for cheap ran that it was perfectly fine nothing wrong with it yeah um yeah ran perfectly and that was just a good thing to get me by in the meantime I didn't particularly worried me if it blew up or anything I had massive problems because I knew I was only going to be running it till I've gotten something else yeah I mean and that was fine so yeah just do something like that you'll be able to find I mean things are known to 90s um you could pick one up very cheaply now so you could always just do that it's still pretty good performing grabs guard it gets about the same performances of 1060 so yes yeah actually NASA now sexy I raised a pretty good question why are we going crazy over these new jewel cause when you can get secondhand for calls you know with a threads for way less and way better performance very good comment I mean very valid yes and yeah extremely valid I mean me personally I'll always love the use parts it offers way better price performance even to the new you know 60 some dollar G 45-60 even a 30-dollar x 34 50s going to trumpet in performance but the thing is obviously the used market snot forever i mean i love the used market and a lot of you guys love these market but it's not for everyone they right now not even for the majority of people people just wanted that you cpu new motherboard warranty it works ok awesome we're good to go no problems I mean us us enthusiasts with the use pcs right wheel of tweaking we love getting things to work we know how to diagnose any mishaps any problems and so yeah definitely they use my I love as much as I love these market it's not everyone's know it is a lot of people forget that the vast from it will maybe not the bus but there is a certain ly a big amount of people who and we'll just go into their local pc gaming store like play take care and they'll just walk in and just say hey I'm what I want to build my first gaming pc I'm going to follow the guide on youtube or something recommend me the the what cpu GPU all that and they will not even be aware that there's any use market or anything like that they'll just go in and buy what it gets recommended to them so with the hype is because it's going to give this people so many options that those people who yeah don't know much about or only do a bit of research beforehand will realize well I've got you know that their skin the market would be extremely saturated by comparison to last it's going to be a great thing to so we got us one hundred and eighty dollar so you already answered that very I'm just going through the questions now making sure we didn't miss anyone so paladin's yeah it's gone really well youtube says I got him into the game thanks you too that's his name YouTube thanks youtube I didn't I gotcha playing paladin's man so yeah I'd yeah 2500 k over the I 373 50k so because I mean the motherboards hopefully going to be a lot cheaper to if you can get a Z 67 yeah Eugene he's said some dirty and Japanese I'm not gonna repeat that so yeah guys I will start wrapping up the question so I'm just drunk yeah I've gone through so um it's about it really can you see anything else sir no I mean the only other one I saw really was people asking if you're going back to Japan anytime soon I'll me Japan know like not planned anyway so you know knowing my ex you might make up something and be like oh you know Chi really I'm not gonna go into it but yeah she really gave me a real fright you know she knows how to do it you know like look if there's anyone who knows how to get a rise out of me it's my ex she's the master of it that's always the case man there was no much but funny but it's it's just like you know basically when I said not you know I'm ironclad I'm not gonna let her get to me she knows how to do it she goes and does it like she just figures out how could she can get a rise out of me and she does so she can she'll probably get a rise out of me to the point why have to fly over there and you know it'll be about my little boy of course so yeah I don't I don't get it man like where are these women like Jonah before we close the stream where are these women that people talk about the ones that you know appreciate it a decent guy I'm sure i'm trying to find them chico person reddits are nice all right I'm not like I'm not going on tinder I don't do tender or I don't really don't adore it I don't want to do online dating apps if I so yeah anyway that's about it for this guy's an episode 10 guys hope you guys enjoyed it if you did be sure to hit the like button and let me know if you've got sort of questions that you want answered as well and you can't make it for the show then be sure to just follow us on twitter I'll go over the forums as well taxi DTV / forums and if you know post a question there as well and if you want to answer it on the show then at this Q&A segment and let us know always here for you guys and we'll catch you in another tech video very soon and give you anything before you close out I just thanks guys it's been great still you know really enjoying doing the tech lounge that's really fun and I I like all the questions we're getting and being able to do all the news and stuff like that it's it's really enjoyable doing the show this week alright guys we'll catch you for episode 11 and thanks for TF it's coming on I'll put the link in the description for his channel below too so we'll catch you next week peace out for now and gotta close the stream down by there