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what is up tech fans this is brian from a tech yes city and this is kev from text showdown joining you guys for episode 11 of the tech lounge how you don't give I'm doing pretty good bro I'm just man it's been a hectic week last week but it's all over now so I'll be able to focus on doing lots of tech videos this week how about yourself yeah same here man it sold last week was just off the chain i was busy busy busy i actually did another build as well so you've got to build in the background somewhere so there's a thermaltake view 27 i did a build with that and sort of i decided to change things up a little bit do a high FPS game a kind of thing because a lot of the times like its legit though a lot of the times a lot of people tell me they like to game on low or even medium settings and get really high FPS in certain games like csgo or two or whatever the game is so they're not too focused on the graphical settings as opposed to getting those high FPS is for the frames and even then they make a good point is that when you drop the graphic settings you don't get the distractions like all the fancy you know things flying around and whatnot so it helps them focus on keeping you fragging better or whatnot so i was really impressed with that like that was actually um a good build to do because it was legit like I started playing CS go and I started getting like better frags like I got some footage of me killing four dudes in one round no not like come on yeah so I actually showed that I'll just like Pat myself on the back of the yay I've pretty good so I got that done yeah and just other than that just a lot of hardware is coming through because like I want to get started on the juicy stuff like you know these engineering samples and stuff like that but I've got a heap a backlog because went on holidays and then I'll sick and that that sickness took me out for ages so there was a huge backlog of parts to get through and so hopefully this week by the end of this week I should be on to all that juicy stuff that people really want to see as well so you know like can you overclock the cabbie lake and stuff like that I'll do my best to see if we can so I did that in the engineering sample and stuff like that and there's some other cool stuff coming but yeah I want to keep it a little bit of a secret some of it so how about yourself them and I'm done done talking haha so good yeah we know be started I started on the key be like stuff last week and yeah it's pretty fun got the 7700 k it could have it could do 4.9 but it didn't seem entirely happy ah but it was very happy at 4.8 there's 76 that this is a retail one by the way there 7600 k however that went 25 gigahertz and it was pretty stable not one hundred percent but about 80% stable but if I brought it back a little bit it was fine what speeds oh duh I mean to Sado what speeds doh what would I what do you mean what speeds did you have this at ah well they got up to five gigahertz I and I said it at the voltage ways it was 1.43 I think it was one 1.44 i think i cant what were you getting out of my opinions well i got see it was redic it still is ridiculously hot I mean I'm getting like you know I was getting five gigahertz at one point three nine five or something and then the 7700 k it just wouldn't go to five gigahertz even if i gave at one point four or five yeah that's stage I was like now I'm not going to take it too much higher than that but that got interesting enough I got one a 4.9 at 1.32 so it was really good like it was actually a really good chip it's just obviously just capped out a 4.9 so arm I couldn't you know get any higher yeah so interestingly enough I just thought well here it is that's that's all it can do so I wonder how many other people out there are getting five gigahertz 5.1 I've heard of people getting even 5.2 so I I don't think it's as many as a lot of people initially thought yeah um after asking around you're definitely going to get 4.84 point not well definitely is a bit strong but but you should be getting at least four point eight yeah which is good because a lot of the sky like CPUs it could quite a few of them could get up that high but many of them seem to like just set at about 4.6 yeah I be Shilo minimums are the sky legs the sky lakes were like 4.5 even sometimes they yeah 4.5 4.6 so it's still a big bit of a jump up there but uh yeah I think a lot of people buying you know going into a thing I oh I'll get five gigahertz guaranteed it's like not not exactly no it depends I think honestly I think you have to deal it if you want to get five yards stiff all day every day like because i was getting 90-something degrees like I tell you that's okay for a cinebench run but if you're loading up a game for half an hour that is not gonna hold not at 90 you have to delayed that thing you have to get those temps down if you want to run it yeah so I actually did the 144 hurts pc and I clock the 7600 Kate of four point eight gig oats now this was only like 30-something degree temperatures but it was running the game's fine I mean the temperatures were going up to whatever 80 degrees or something in games which is okay but you have to deal it to get those temp down I definitely like if you want to get those high overclocks like five even 5.1 24-7 you're going to have to deal it or at least live in antarctica so it's your choice yeah yeah but here's this is interesting to as well look at that we've got there that's the sky lakes I don't know if you can see it on the webcam but we got the sky like engineering sample and then we've got the cabbie lake cpu you probably see that the the PCB is a three-layer I believe versus a two layer so that was interesting to find that out I was like wow okay so they send the engineering as samples out with thicker PCB or at least stronger PCB then the retail samples so I don't know what's going on but I'd like to see a thicker PCB because I actually want to deal it one of these chips I really do and I want to see the temperature difference and I want to see if in gaming if you leave a game on for two hours is one overclock going to be better than the other and I think of course it will be because you know temperatures do affect overclock so dear letting is one of those things you'd want to do to get those extra couple hundred megahertz stable out of your CPU so yeah that's that that's it was interesting to me anyways that I the motherboard is the that I was testing Kubelik on was the Auris which is gigabyte gaming x5 I believe and the when I was reading their guide because just wanted to see what they reckon they hadn't part of the guy debelle t letting but I thought was pretty crazy from you know actual company I always thought it was sort of this some you know more shadowy think not got shadowy but but you know like an actual big company wouldn't talk about it type thing yeah um but know that had it right in the guide it was like oh if you you know experiencing bad temperatures you can always pretty much deal it it and this was like posting their results which were pretty good from what i remember it was about a 10 degree difference yeah i'm so you drop about 10 degrees which was pretty impressive so yeah there's it's interesting to see now but i mean this just it shouldn't need to come to this i feel we got over this with devil's canyon but i'll know until we got to go back here again well that's the name that's another factor that might propel zen right to yeah yeah i mean if zens not cutting any corners like this i think a lot of people rally behind it so all's it's got to do is have good performance that's all yeah and good and of course bring that value the money to the table but i think a lot of people going to rally behind that another thing too is in some of my videos especially the one upcoming as well some of the footage I did figure out the problem people like I'll you know your cabbie Lake video there was a bit of stuttering that was actually the capture card on the storage you know it was going over USB 3 and the storage I fixed it up anyway so yeah some of the footage had a bit of sliding it wasn't the CPU i will say that it wasn't the cpu except and i will talk about this though I you know I have to maybe if you guys in the audience want me to go on a witch hunt I might but those minimums in crysis 3 were jit like they were legit those that difference you know cuz steve from hardware and box he pulled me over on the Delos like dude like your results men like you know that looks a bit weird man I'm like what which one and he's like Oh your arm your crisis three benchmark you know twenty percent lower minimums on the cab you leik g 45-60 the pen Ian first is the i3 6109 I just said to him dude that's legit like I tested apples to apples exact same patch of turf there you know what I mean and that's what the results were and so now crysis 3 is a game that's really cool i love crysis 3 especially even for benchmarking till this day why because even as much as it stresses the GPU like to the max it stresses your CPU to the max given the right settings and yet it's it chooses it more than some pre-made benchmarks and now what this means is if you have a program that's bench that's it's juicing a lot of cpu power what that means is it's utilizing the cash more than other benchmarks more than other games because we all know that you know a shot at cpu if it's being used it's burning up a lot of power hence why the x 99 cpus burn up a lot more power than their fork or variance or that brothers the forecourse because they have way more level 3 cash now that case you guys up a lot of power and so the difference between the 45 60 and the i3 6100 is that one's got smart cash now i don't know if that will contribute towards the differences in minimums but i would guess that's the biggest factor because the 200 megahertz difference is not going to make up for twenty percent difference in lower minimums yes so pretty interesting what are they doing with that small case it might be legit yeah now it's a very good point you've raced yeah that's really interesting yeah so I found that out I was like well I could go and test it and go on a witch hunt but at the end of the day I guess a lot of game has already know the more you have the more horsepower you have the better it's going to be I just I guess that if you know if you were to put it apples to apples Smart Case would be better than on smart cache on the Intel side of things and what exactly is smart case i don't really know I guess it's just the way it's been programmed the way that you know and whatever yeah this is I I read about it while you but I can't remember off the top of my head I remember reading because I wanted to know but I've forgotten now but yeah there is better um what should be in life is better guys it's better for the people in the states it's pronounced cash I know don't have to hit me in the comments i already know guys I already know yeah so bizarre New Zealand in New Zealand it's like everyone in the industry says it both ways you be like Oh talking about the cash and then some will say cash and then they say cash it's like people just use both all the time let have some people use one way a half of you use the other they don't just say one okay most of most of them say cash I've actually I remember asking one goes like wait occasion he's like because when I say cash all the customers get confused and I was like oh really a nice yeah so he's a case instead it's exactly how you pronounce in your country it's how you pronounce a cache of weapons or whatever you know I mean now the military or drop in America they pronounce your hash so that's fair enough that's how they pronounce this so however you pronounce that word because that's what it is it's a storage close to the CPU that's a it's a cash or cash it is so however you however your country pronounces that said would that sounds going to be pronounced for the CPU side of things too so anyway English English 101 on on a taquito you yeah okay so we're gonna move on to the first topic year people like actually it's funny because no one's actually told us to move on to topics yet that's how cool is that it's been like the first maybe maybe the personal chat is pretty interesting this week cool sorry so first up you keep we've got microsoft acquires simply gone so it plans to accelerate 3d for everyone yeah so apparently they've yeah they've taken over this company microsoft's just got all that money in the bank and it's got here the microsoft symbol plus the simplygon sequel equals love now what exactly this is love going to entail I'm pretty confused because in the past we've known that Microsoft can get things like dx12 and I'd say in a way yet make a mess of them yeah I think this is interesting so they said it was used by car manufacturers to be visualized products in VR at full scale and so they made themselves they said that made a name within the CAD based work ad means computer-aided design yeah I visualization platform so that's great cool and this will be what they say they also integrated it into applications such as unreal engine 4 yeah see this is an interesting move by Microsoft um yeah I think uh well you'd hope only good things come from it but yeah it's quite quite an interesting thing for them to do you better hope guys you better put your hands together alright it'll tie end with the creator's update as well so maybe but it's death on me get on your knees and pray that they don't sort of a monopolize this in any sort of way shape or form but knowing that I'd say what's the real well okay and there's my phone and what we got here so essentially this is that they're just threw me off you know like I was just those folks I forgot what I was going to say now the fastest the windows 10 creators update this should be available for everybody on it hopefully something like this some sort of 3d design thing for people to use which would be quite cool but we'll have to see closer to the time if that's going to be the cap of the case or not this way I'm powering this off their hair you like that person interrupt me in the CEO no more interruptions midstream okay so yeah they're integrating this into apparently like in Unreal Engine 4 and so they want to integrate it into their newest reiteration of windows and they've got to focus on 3ds well I mean v ours I'd say arguably it's going to be the future i mean i'd say it's going to take a lot longer to adopt than people think I've refuted the issues surrounding it but I think that's where they envision this acquisition going is we're simply gone okay Microsoft we can integrate it into Windows Windows Store VR experience I think that's where they envision this going so I I think you're exactly I think what will happen in the future from my point of view once the VR technology and the headsets themselves are sophisticated enough as people will not run a monitor anymore their desk will be they'll sit down they already run this as a lot of your applications you can get for this and you put on your VR hits it and then you go into what's called the virtual desktop yeah and people can do that because you'll think well what if I all the stuff right in my face know what it is you're in the VR you're sitting at a desk with whatever monitor you want and the application and all that stuff so that will be maybe it sounds kind of bizarre to wear a headset just to look at a screen in the BR yeah but um I can see that starting to take off right now it seems a bit crazy but in the future that may be the case I may be completely off but I think something like that might start getting more people's attention I I think see there they're going to have a hard time contending with people with jewel 27 more inch monitors like myself or people with the wide 34 inch monitors I mean let's be honest it doesn't get much better than this guys come on yeah you got your mouse your keyboard mechanical switches awesome mouse then you've got your amazing monitors and your amazing hardware it's like it doesn't get much better than this except one person did make a good point VR porn I mean that could be a huge industry so yeah that like I see there's a billion reason I legitimately think that could be a real thing sigh oh well it already is it sorry keV I got to put myself on d and be like so I guess someone's on the stream they're like okay like I don't know why people won't have the need to be smart asses midstream okay anyway back to the articles okay by myself on dnd now so maybe people can have perhaps yeah stop trying to interrupt the stream now okay next article so we're done with that one a microsoft acquired simply gone now we're moving over to i-77 thousand skylake x + kv lake acts so we actually we talked about this a couple of months ago and the bottom line was cabby lake ex was being launched besides skylake x and they had a fork or a thread variant now the problem with this is that cabbie league's been released and it's virtually the same thing as sky like a ska lake yeah so yeah i would i would argue that they're not even going to release sky like x they're just going to call the whole thing kobe like x because that's an easy way for them to catch up play catch up on x 99 they've got their new generation of four cause it makes perfect sense for Intel from a business standpoint finally cable a gas can catch up to cabby lake it might do what they're saying right now is it's going to be a combination of both they're both going to be coming out at similar times but you'll have three skews which will be the sky like x you'll get the usual tink or eight core and six core and then kb lake will be coming out with a fork or a thread which I'll be interested to see what they do with that now I don't think many people are going to be that hyped for these new CPUs considering that when we went from has really too broad well II it was that was a bit more exciting because we went from the 59 60 X being the top dog which was a core 16 thread to a 69 50 x which is tink or 23 we're not seeing that same sort of difference this time I would imagine it's going to be you know the 7950 X will probably be very similar except with higher clock speeds and if maybe change around with the cash and a few other things all the pci lanes and that will be no more a net so looks like you get four more pci you later every leg active aliensix morbid um it's got a new socket so you're moving from LGA 2011 three of version 3 to LGA 2066 now the biggest problem i have here is that you know i don't think they're going to sell that well on this time around because people already have 58 20 keys some people went out and bought the 6800 k knowing like myself knowing that it's a pretty much inferior in that it doesn't clock as high as the 5820 a so it's virtually the same thing and then people want to get numbers on cab you like X is that going to clock higher I think that's the only way they're going to sell LGA 2066 if those six call variants because that's I'd say that's arguably the most popular CPU on the x 99 platform is the 5820 candy 6800 k but if they can't get the clock speeds right I just see a lot of people forgetting about it because you've got to go out and buy a whole new motherboard this time around as well so who wants to go do that I me in particular not really I in hindsight I regret upgrading to the 6800 k it was a waste of time and effort the 58 20k was perfectly fine so you know a lot of people out there on the 58 20k it's been it's actually a really damn good cpu especially when next 99 platform was first released it had everything it could clock pretty high for a 6-core it had the price tag associated with it and the next night I wasn't too expensive if you got those cookie cutter motherboards so exactly yeah I don't see this selling particularly well there'll be certain people out there that I don't think it'll sell well from the perspective of people like us going from broad well II to say sky like X or key belleek x I'm however things end up I think it would just be the usual people which are those who are going from say the core series and then jumping up like I did before when i went from my 4770k and then now I run the 6900 k which is very similar to the 59 60 x yes so um that would be uh what I think some of the sales are becoming from but all of this just boats even bitter for rising because just it just so many people even people I know that are big fans of Intel um do feel let down the shower ja ja Rule Chester that he's let down he's been let down as well he knows how it feels man he's back in team AMD guys don't worry and this right now just adds to it because nothing I've seen from this I mean there's some little cool things with X 2 99 you know the saying ddr4 2067 a native support which okay you know a few other things you know as you said with the pci lanes but really there's nothing that jumps out to me as really that big I mean it's like cool the people going on about the native support of USB 3.1 with kb lake you know how many people actually kid going from ski like you know true I don't know yep it's not so uh yeah this is going to put really well but again yeah we'll just have to see if it's true that the IPC are rising is similar to broad well then and their pricing is as aggressive as we're hoping it's going to be yet from AMD then I think Intel's going to need to change their pricing around a lot and it will be going after these top ones as well that a core 16 thread rise and cpu that's going to start to cause trouble I think in this high end the gaming productivity end well I was looking through the so-called arm so-called layout for zen and the one that interests me the most surprisingly is the six core six thread that really interests yeah yeah yeahs me form the date on my eyes on by okay coming around two hundred and twenty dollars or something like that that looks like the CPU to get because you know the eight core 16 threads going to be apparently six hundred dollars or whatnot so for gamers I mean damn six core six threads is where it's at that's a tough CPU you know that is like it going to the gym every day and working out but not having to go to the gym and spend the time you know will ya I think it's going to kill the i5 if it's if it lives up to that well they're going to have to change the pricing around mass because you know but I think it'll be very interesting when we both get them and start testing Rosen yep in the future is they'll have the fork or a thread reisenthel so after six core six thread yeah and that's something that's actually quite interesting too yeah will that will the six physical cores and be good or will people you know having six straight or there be a full grey thread yeah well that that'll be a year down yeah hmm that'll be a good show down for a particular channel called tech showdown yeah well I'll definitely do that stuff but yeah I think I'm what you're seeing with the eight core 16 thread that high price tag obviously that isn't so much aimed at the gaming market that thing is going to be aimed at the productivity market I'm going straight after these enthusiast series so I still see a lot of people just buying it anyway because they want the best that andy has to offer so and as well you know that's six score six threat it's going to empower keyboard worries all across the internet you're gonna see some flame wars going on i can't wait i'm gonna get my popcorn ready it's going to be pretty awesome so yeah have you had by the way have you heard anything that you can make public about racing in terms of release dates anything if you have this under I by I'm not even under NDA so I can't even okay Ivan I haven't heard anything I asked around it I if it's dame diez keeping this really tight yeah it is I'm e sure it'll be before march though that's all I've sort of the only leeway I've sort of had it's really sure to be just after march from what i hear so okay yeah yeah and depends this time around is you know like Australia got the g 45-60 before the states that was really weird is going to be sort of like a different countries it gets rolled out at different times that song yeah you know that's something that I'm waiting for I mean newzealand looks like you guys get it a month later anyway by default so we get about two weeks after you you get them and I'll see who a week and a half after you guys get them because all the Aussie distributors keep everything for themselves yeah so well move on to the next topic anyway so yeah some gaming news here Gabe Newell he got a name a and on reddit i think it was and he said the number theory must not be said because people are asking people like want to know about half life 3 when's it coming out now he did admit that the customer support needs a bit of work on steam and whatnot but hey and i think any company's customer sport could always use some work but considering how many customers steam actually has that's pretty a generic thing to say but half life 3 is kind of disappointed with the response you know it's just like a joke it's like haha shits and giggles again uh shits and giggles and it's like okay it's 2017 body like is it coming out or not just lay it to rest you know don't do a Prometheus honest and leave us like asking so many questions at the end of this thing that it does I head in are we getting off like three or not are we getting a sort of different run-of-the-mill game that's going to be related to half life 3 that will possibly tie into the story like prometheus or you know so yeah he's done a whole Prometheus on us you know so that's how I was a bit I did like Prometheus the movie that I've got to admit I thought it was pretty awesome but it can't wait for the next installment but yeah it's kind of like it's 2017 so what's going on with half-life 3 that's the thing that I want to know what is going on with this game when's it coming out is it not coming out just this year too much right now yeah there's like it's just so much hype that it could never live up to it now so yes maybe he just they're just not going to do it but um the fact that they also he also said that their wool that valve is working on a single player game right now that's quite cool and the fact that hopefully there'll be a left 4 dead 3 sometime in the future yeah that would be cool as well so yeah in the half-life and portal movie collaborations um very interesting to see with er with a whole new half-life 3 you get a whole new counter strike as well which would be so awesome so they'd be movable but I mean Sears go I don't see that going anywhere it'd be subtle upgrades you know you'd have an updated engine maybe in a few years time once everyone hardware's upgraded because I think the whole appeal of cs go especially is that it runs on potatoes so yeah yeah that's that I mean I was just yeah I was hoping Gabe would have delivered a yes or no half-life 3 is not coming he's never gonna do that epica can't get teased in it so yeah we got here you want to talk about this actually the Zeus debuts the zenbook you x 4 30 and you x 5 30 slimline laptops now you actually own Anna Zeus and book don't you yeah it's but that's the old ones back there somewhere but uh yeah I've justed these a lot and all the videos are did on them got quite good views but I I do like the zim books quite a bit um try to have that their fair share of problems with the hinges I've heard over the years although the 1i have is it's still final load as being a little bit funny and but yeah these ones are just new ones look summer there have been quite good with keeping a lot of the ports in but the graphics cards and these look pretty ancient although they're coming with kb like CPU so that's good rabbit GTI oh it's just the advertising on this website it's insane it's like it's like a Christmas tree popping off late now's good I'm just looking at it like I'm not even reading the article i'm just watching msi zeus flashing all on the screen what the hell yeah yes that's okay this is advertising taken too far guys where you can't even read the article because it's so distracting and then there's people with adblock it's like that have we got to support each other at blow you guys you put on everyone puts on add blog we'd be out of business I wouldn't be Davenant I wouldn't have a channel I couldn't do near exactly that but yeah so they're putting on the the USB type-c port as well which will be interesting and also some new colors and stuff but these are aces have been doing this for a while the zenbook range has been very reliable for them in terms of sales and i think they're very scared to do anything too drastic to it so each time i just a new one it's just a very incremental upgrade over the previous one and been a great great little laptops in terms of battery life but um visibility at least at the start literally works for 30 does interest me it looks very thin it looks like it's got some good specs I mean that's a great food truck did not need for a gaming per se you can game on them but that's not the market they're aimed at so people that complain about the graphics cards on them it's not what it's entirely aimed at and but they can do it quite well but yeah you'll be playing more basic games like what you were saying before yeah csgo and things that will run on a potato and will run on that but there was actually runs it to say sir yeah yeah it does all right hey definitely you probably wouldn't have to run on the very minimum but being born I'm gonna be going too crazy yeah well so that's that topic done and dusted zenbook go get yourself one if you want one with a our data grabbers guard and good good specs cavy like cpu and they're pretty good specs regardless pc gummy a garmin okay pc gaming hardware market now worth over 30 billion for the first time huge news yeah and this is what we talked about earlier didn't we are a few a few months ago the fact that there's been such a big um up taking people just buying pc hardware in general especially on the GPU front they were posting very good sales so what's the end of 2016 so that's that's really good but what's interesting and that graph is the fact that it's looking like it's more dominated by the hind but i don't so much I mean do you agree with this I mean this is what they've done from their research but I would have believed it would have been the mid-range or well there's right how are they doing okay if you've got the sails out I don't know what exactly low sorry I don't know what's happened to my English in the last two minutes anyway I don't know exactly what factors they're basing off you know they're obviously cutting the line somewhere but what does pertain to mid-range what sort of yeah factors presented new entry level and high range I'd love for them to put those you know at whatever trying to think of the words I'm just brain fighting live here but so the mid-range market is the biggest as long as the as well as the low range market if we look at the / hardware per person I would say the mid-range and the low range would be beating the high-end right because the high and you can have someone spending ten thousand dollars now for ten thousand dollars we could easily build 20 computers for the low end right so there's so many people for one person so the high range is of course going to be over inflated to per person because it's just high range it's got no cap essentially on it so it doesn't surprise me that the high range is selling the most in terms of total volume of sales in money in dollar terms yeah you know but what factors denote that I'd love to find out it's it's a funny thing that you when you talk to people about this like well I'll ask you the questions will ask a lot of people so if you were looking at in videos current lineup of GPU so the thousand serious crux cards yet where would you define their like entry level so obviously you would definitely put anything in d 50 n 10 but would to 1050 TI come in there that's starting to hit mid range with the 10 c then 1062 1060 most people would say yeah well it's mid range yet but then where is the 1070 also mid-range or is that going to mean that would be a new class late it's weird that it be a new class I'd call it up amid adage now what makes it difficult because you could say well entry-level 1050 1050 TI but then that would mean that and if you classified the 1070 as high-end then the 1060 would be the lone graphics card in that granted there is two different models of 3 and the 6 gig but you it would be a loan card in the middle and that's what makes it kind of whoa I think I need to see this is the problem like the 970 when it was first released in my opinion was a high-end card it was so close to the 980 which was the flagship when it was first released now the n70 is arguably it's behind its behind the 1080 by quite a bit even if you overclock them you can't get them to 1080 speeds and so that's why it that new class is sort of bread now with the 10 the upper mid class I think that's you know so yeah it's it's a lot harder to define like you finish line is kind of kind of like your Porsche Boxster right not exactly a high-end car but it's got a Porsche name on it and you know you get all the pretenders who will go out and buy a Porsche Boxster so yeah I think I think AMD's lineup is actually easier to define from it I mean most people you'd say 474 idea definitely in the mid range and then when Vega comes out I mean we definitely know those are going to be hind since AMD have already got the mid-tier mid-range and entry-level covered we know that the two new Vega GPUs which will be coming out will be squarely in the high-end mark yeah but I think people in your comments nail I think the people in the comments nail it's kinda like RX 417 1070 are the cards to get at the moment I think they're the to cut their the two hottest cards right for 70s your entry-level sort of real good price performance mid-range and then you've got your arm GTX 1070 which is for those people who want that value oriented higher-end card so I think those are the two hottest cards at the moment they're the two cards ID pic even though the GTX 1063 gigabyte of the right price is still a good really good that's a hell of a deal yeah that's a hell of a deal when you get them on specialist yeah so yeah I would agree with that 470 I would say if you're someone looking in the market for the best value for money graphics card then you have to go with either 474 80 depending on what models and deals you can get at anything's on special or the 1060 either three or six gig again depending on models and pricing and specials and still hadn't yet but if you're you're looking for the value if you're looking in that area you'll find yourself a hell of a deal and that'll be a lot of graphics card for your money all the 1050 to the 1050 is actually coming in a pretty decent price too especially if you're plugging it into those oh yes I'll do like where the 1050 is out as well so they all though yeah yeah I would agree that I'd say and honestly i'd say this generation we haven't had a better to be honest it's the price performance have used a tick yeah yeah it's very good it's very good I would agree with that for sure because a lot of people like the 1060 and the RX 470 especially has done very well in terms of armed cells via the but there we go like 2016 hit that 30 billion dollar mark which was expected to hit in 2018 so we're kind of two years ahead of where we should be which is really good for PC gaming I think a lot of people are starting to see what's going on with consoles they're starting to see okay we can actually use our controllers on pcs so pcs you know they've got so much more to bring to the table and if you're into the used hardware segment you can still get a really good price performance rig out of you know pc gaming it doesn't cost a whole lot to enter the pc gaming market i'm going to have some pretty cool videos coming that'll sort of cover a bit of both how you know people because I'm the biggest complaint i get with used hardware as brian i can't get the deals that you get and yet a lot of the time they're one-off deals it actually like ninety-nine percent of the time they're one off deals you're not gonna be able to replicate that because there's only one person selling their used stuff so yeah I'd love to do a few more videos on that there will be a few more videos but what we're seeing is PC gaming is taking off it's coming a lot more popular than we thought men like people like you and me I'm sure we just never even think about jumping on a console and the sad thing is why my brother forced me to buy a ps4 he actually bought half the console for me he wanted me yet into the console that bad i played this thing for like it I gave it a good go I tried playing destiny for an hour I was just like I want my mouse and keyboard I want you know my specs i want my better frame rates it's just it's so hard now to go back to console unless you know it's just the the the gaming experience pc brings now is so much better then console yes this is this is what we would expect anyways I mean I have a PlayStation 4 and the only reason I have it is to play exclusives and but the this is what happened every time when these consoles are starting to reach the end of their life I know they've been refreshed but it's that's not the same really and this is what always happens when they start getting quite old which a lot of them are are then a pc hardware sales to tick up and up and up in a few when the new consoles come out maybe not so much with a switch but I mean a new Xbox or Playstation then you see the pc hardware sales slowed down a little bit and then eventually then a few years later it will start to check back up again and but this is what I've seen before with the plate ps4 when it first came out and xbox one when it came out okay we'll move on to this topic year us report suggests Tesla autopilot reduces crashes by forty percent now it's an independent study and apparently someone died in one of these things a few months ago and there's a lot of a parents here but what I mean like you want to talk about this one but I I think it's fascinating I think it's fascinating that we got autopilot coming into cars me personally I would never give up control of my vehicle I think that's why I'm I'm scared of flying like I every time I jump into an airplane I'm scared because of the fact that I don't have control I think that's where a lot of people schedule it's just a natural human thing I think it may be at is the natural human reaction when i drive a car I'm in control of it or I trust someone in the driver's seat who i knows in control so there's that factor there that which is why i'd probably never turn to an autopilot unless i got to know my machine he had like a I and he became my friend you know I think it was something that you would use a bit and it would make a lot of people nervous I mean everybody fears what they don't understand and when they first use it they're probably quite scared and everything but the idea that people think as of right now anyways that you turn things like autopilot on and then you can just do it if you want they have a nap read a book that's not how it works you still need to be aware watching the road and everything but the autopilot should do a good job now the reason why their sale are the crashes are reducing is for quite a few reasons there I have a bachelors an automotive engineering so there we go guys care to make it yeah to make it basic i did in a whole assignment on this technology to basically break it down the REE why it doesn't have emotion like a lot of people crash because they're raging or they're impatient or they're frustrated or they're in a rush Tristan they can also see a lot that you can't see we rely on our line of sight whereas a lot of these autopilot technologies and autonomous driving technologies use what's called lidar so light detecting radar and so it can see things that you wouldn't be able to see in your line of sight so say a kid was hiding behind a parked car or something and he ran out on the road to chase something you wouldn't be able to see him until he came into your line of sight whereas the autopilot could see him for you know quite quite a decent time and be already anticipating that he might do something like that there's a lot of things like that which are quite interesting the main sort of downsides to this right now is that it has a lot of difficulty I think with intersections a lot of time you'll see people who have made reviews and stuff and videos about it it'll pull in behind parks cars thinking those cars are lined up at intersection cars that are parked very close to a intersection and things like that also there's a bit of trouble or not trouble but it's for it to read signs and lights they usually have to run cameras on the back of the mirror at the central mirror and order for it to see there because radar obviously cannot see the traffic lights or the signs in there and it's more a kind of broad thing to pick up objects so that's another interesting thing but no this is good going forward and there could be a time definitely there will be a time in our lifetime where everybody is using cars on autopilot and you'll see the amount of deaths from car crashes reduced dramatically to the point where it would be a instead of a common occurrence it would be actually quite rare or an occasional thing that you will ever actually hear about probably by the time we're in our 50s or 60s I would imagine so the lie detecting stuff basically you're saying if someone was to invent some Superman glass as we could get around that so there's sort of that advantage negated yeah it's it's that um yeah it's kind of it's hard to explain there's it's not for all of them as well like you cannot talk about this in a very broad sense because lots of different companies are using lots of different technology but the general idea is that is where the benefit will come from as that things like some of these different radar systems can see things and that's we cannot see because I driving is mainly based off line of sight and a bit of hearing as well as someone honks their horn or something at us or we hear something you basically said oh no more burnouts as well ah oh I mean I don't think electric as a live a replace petrol cars like it's like when people when the car was invented it didn't replace the horse it's entirely like it's you still see people go riding horses and stuff like that but they do it for leisure now how many people actually use horses for work and I think petrol cars will be the same thing there will be people will be like I'll just use my electric car to drive smokin because that's bitter but the pitcher kara be a fun castell no more speed bomb jumping oh man I think I'm and like I'm not sold on this autopilot thing so there's no Michael I no more speed bomb jumping well we're what work this is no fun taking the fun out of cups I think you'll have to two cars no more drag racing to let me know in the comments are you guys sold on Autobots old there's no me no more drag racing it's going to be no more burnouts going to be no more speed bump jumping so let me know in the comments what you guys think I'm not sold on autopilot I'm yeah I rage quit I'm not getting it yeah eggs eggs old this is a new MMO that promises to be sort of like a fast-paced a game where you can level up it's very PvP orientated it's sort of targeted towards more mature audiences and the good thing about it is this is what I like about this game they're giving everyone a seven day free trial I mean that's what I like about this they just said look you play our product if you like it then you can sign up I mean that's that's a really good model that's what i would want from a lot of different companies instead of buying their game realizing it's trash and then wanting to return it which on a lot of places you can but i like the seven day free trial i really like it and is looking pretty cool i'm definitely going to check this out on febri 23rd looks like it'll run on a potato too so they've got that down pat I think if you want to have this successful game nowadays it's got to be a free or at least free-to-play from the start and then be run on the potato I think that's the formula so yeah and then we got titanfall to the developer said the game can't be ported to switch because it's so underpowered now this has made me sort of turn away from the switch like it'sit's so many years after the ps4 and the xbox one or released you would think that they would have a console that is more powerful than its two competitors are they just for three or four years later you'd think that they would do that right well Nintendo has never been about making the most powerful console Nintendo's whole thing has always been about the successful what's that though the 64 originally was that sort of it was the Ducks nuts it was the best thing out there the 64 another yeah I think that yeah but in this recent age at least with the last three since the we came out on they haven't been powerful by comparison so and I know if I will yes I know people say it's gonna have its older it's gonna have Zelda Zelda is gonna be great but I yeah it's got to have more than just Zelda I mean shits and giggles aside here I if I buy one of these things and I love Nintendo I always loved their different sort of games and platform they bring to the table I thought the way you was actually a lot of fun to play with casual friends that weren't gamers yeah way I guess all US enthusiasts we've got those friends that when you talk to him about pc hardware they kind of just scratch their head and be like okay can we change the topic they're the kinds of people that play the wii u like and you can have fun with them gaming so I hope Nintendo brings that experience at the table but at the same time if you buy a switch I kind of want to play some of those titles that ps4 without because I don't want to go out and buy an xbox one I don't want to go and buy a ps4 and you know my brother went and sold my ps4 actually like a month ago so I'm console us now so if I was thinking about buying a switch I'd want it to run I wanted to kind of do everything in general and it looks like it can't so the develop said you know Connie and then Borderlands three it won't be able to play on the switch as well so you know Zelda can only carry this thing so far people are going to say okay well I want to get my switch i want to play zelda but i also wouldn't mind playing this title that title oh it's not on the nintendo switch and it's never coming on the nintendo switch what the and yeah just it's that the the look of Zelda though it is great kind of cartoonish type look that's not going to be very intense in terms of load but okay I think this this Nintendo switch launch in general has yeah like just everything to do with it it hasn't gone tremendously well I saw someone in chat before said though Nintendo be charging you for playing online too I did hear about that and but yet that I just don't think this is going tremendously well but we'll have to see Nintendo it's always been about the games rather than the console itself the games and how you play being quite sort of interactive that's why the wee one when it you know came out and that generation of consoles because it was just the most fun families could play it it was more revolutionary than the others at the time and it just seems like Nintendo since then I've kind of forgotten that you can get away with having an underpowered I'm console as long as you make it that sort of you know fun thing like what you were describing yeah i know i know but i don't know i think game is 11 at all nowadays I think that's the new thing they don't they're not realizing that I mean yeah back with the wii u it was okay internet wasn't as because it is today nowadays everyone's inform everyone wants everything for nothing and you just you got to go with that you've got to provide a console that can do it all and if financial it looks like a car yes I do we will move on to the next topic call of duty infinite warfare guy's tops that it tops the charts for december 2016 most sold pc game xbox one whatever most all title and general in gaming and atop the chart for 2016 now i copped a lot that's gonna love this yeah well i mean i copped a lot of i copped a lot of crap for doing that he and finit warfare pc people were like dude you're an idiot you know your ears why you doing it Finn at warfare in hindsight it was one of the probably is the best pc i could have done i think it got the most views of any recent pc video that i've done so next year you guys are going to get another Cod pc if the game was so cheap I was like wow it's actually like 30 australian dollars or something for a triple a title that's not too bad i mean yeah you you see some of the titles here you see some of the titles here man they're like eighty dollars or hundred dollars for a triple a title on Australia I mean I thought $30 kind of like a no-brainer and yeah top-selling title 2016 there you go cod okay guys it's a time to get good yeah you know people love the stuttering I guess people like stuttering they like um a engine that has is so old it's not funny but hey thirty dollars it's not too bad not too bad 30 strain dollars I'll give him that that's not too bad if they're going to keep releasing the titles that cheap I'll keep buying them as I really tube so and you know helps me get some views on a video damn look at that also surprised the infinite warfare pc video did so well so there ya take that chat anyway so i'm actually pretty surprised that it did actually do number one because i thought battlefield one was better game I thought yeah I oh yeah I think that one should really be first but you know whatever it is what it is um yeah battlefield one was cool I really yeah like I'm actually really enjoying the multiplayer this time around it's not as frustrating as battlefield 4 battlefield 3 was nice for me I'm actually really enjoying the multiplayer in battlefield one um you know it's good to see I mean I'm surprised overwatch didn't get higher than it did that's really surprising yeah yeah so many people play over what like so many people on the surprise world of warcraft didn't even get on that child either that's really for me that the two titles that i thought would have been on there would have been world of warcraft and overwatch higher in the ladder at least i was really surprised that some of these titles knocked it off but again but we're counting in ps4 and xbox one as well so the fact that over watch which is a PC predominant title made it into the top 10 just being a pretty much pc only kind of thing what I don't even know is it only pc I don't even know I think it's on ps4 and xbox one to year so I know what Warcraft is so that's why that probably didn't make the list but yeah interesting very cool yeah I mean someone sit and chat as well rocket League keeps getting more and more players have you ever played rocket leak it's actually if I ok I've seen it I liked I mean I've seen it that much on gameplay commentaries I kind of just prefer watching it so interest yeah it's one of those games I just liked to watch call me weird but you know I get that yeah it's got already it it's good for a casual game it's good for something to just play a few matches in and then sort of you know go do something else yeah after but yeah it is quite enjoyable a lot of people are getting into it now yeah so there we go cotton Finn of warfare is your it's your Savior it's your king guys yeah we're just going to move out a Q&A now so get your comments and questions already and Kevin I will answer them for you so a we got near video tech I asked can the console people play against PC players I don't know which game for pacifically but most the time yes that hat yes I still don't I still don't think a lot of games support cross-platform play I believe I was waiting for cod to introduce that I think that would be a huge sale whatever factor whatever yeah ma'am I today just excuse me guys my English is just that bad I don't know what happened but um we got yeah I was waiting for cod2 introduced cross-platform play I think that would be a really good thing for the for the whole series and i also got asked from the hobbit what's your stance on downloading your tech lounge videos yeah i mean you guys can download I'm just you know just keep in mind that we're doing this content and just support me and Kev any way you can I mean there's free ways to support the channel you know obviously don't turn on that block and whatnot so you do those things event ourselves out you do what you like you know so tell a lot of people you know that's a good way to help them out if you just want to help out more it's usually yeah if there's a website or something you want them on you can just embed the video yeah um and that's usually you know a good way to do it also yeah so what's the best I think this one's for you dude what's the best new zealand game f sheep oh man the she I was that what's the best Australian game going to prison so I set out Kevin do not do GTX 1060 versus our X 480 because fanboy flame is too much yeah so I'm going to be doing a rematch I'm just trying to get my hands on the right are X 480 to do it but good but I'm last time that's the only time I've ever actually unlisted a video was not on my actual show down but on a follow up video i did i'm talking about it and just that the people man the community was just ridiculous because i had to say at the time the 1060 in new zealand anyways was the better card it got more frames and it was the price ya bein so the thing is no way I could get around saying that the RX for a tea was bitter now that is why I'm doing the rematch because so much has changed in terms of drivers and pricing that it's only fair i redo it but i'll go into it with the same mindset i look at the price look at the features look at the performance temps noise all the stuff i cover every single base and then i add it all together and just see which one comes out until I don't go in with a bias and that is who's going to win but whoever I say when's the other side complains I don't advise you have some way and seeing is that's why you I mean you've got a tailor to your most viewed to I always do now videos for Australia not just Australia also the states the state's always comes first so if you're not telling your content to the US first and then New Zealand second then people are going to complain because immediately RX 470 I'd say is the best buy in the states at the moment for a graphics card in Australia is looking a little bit different surprisingly looks like the GTX 1060 and get it for around 279 aud or 269 australian dollars now that's sort of looking like the best buy at the moment in australia but i'd have to say if i did a video on the 2 i'd say look the RS 470 is the better buy in the States and then the GTX 1060 is the better by Australia something like that so if you're not doing that maybe you should do it you have to kind of give different opinions for people in different countries otherwise people will get pissed off they'll be like what's going on it's completely different where I am on the UK I mean what is it with the UK man I feel sorry for you guys pricing is all over the map over there and you know the UK is my second I think it's my second most viewed country and I just look at the rising and I scratch i scratch my head I'm like I feel sorry for you guys you know what is going on with pricing over in the UK it's so glad you know they're getting pretty much like pound for dollar like one to one equivalent of price even sometimes the prices are cheaper in the States if you were to actually have that in a pound 141 equivalent and it's late Dan so we got asked to have I checked out any checked out cex for any get 16 what does that stand for consumer exchange for any use parts not that there's one closer to home arm I check out gumtree like a lot but I haven't checked it out lately because yeah I've just got such a big backlog to get through you spots I was thinking about doing like a monthly series where I go just parts hunting try and pick up bargains people love the vlogs I want to bring that back to the channel in a more sort of scheduled format so people can look forward to it I definitely want to take care of all the people who love the used price performance that's something that's not going to go away from the channel don't worry yeah and so yeah breaks it okay that's what they're talking about the Briggs it's affecting the pricing but even before the break that the prices were all up in the air do if anything that they if they sign a free trade agreement with the US or something that British and then that will bring then it should be cheaper there anyway josh says do you follow random gaming and hds videos no i don't I've got my reasons but again I don't say anything negative so I'm not going to talk about it so that's just me so yeah I just you know I'm not going to say anything so I don't follow these videos now and there's my reasons but I'm not going to say in publicly so yeah I mean what about you keV ah nah just yes alright yeah ok so fanboys are not sebat being frugal with my hard-earned money and get what will work not what I can brag about not needing okay nothing going we Nick what mechanical keyboard would you suggest with RGB wrist rest and around 100 USD oh it's probably something from Coursera I guess if it's gonna be that maybe yes I'm saying k65 lux ah I don't know because I know us pricing but I suppose if you're wanting the wrist rest as well I mean my immediate thought goes to a key 70 but that would be out of that price range i would imagine anyways um depends on you behind a yet it all depends on the yeah and there's some like I was doing the recent tech deals video that was a really cheap oil or keyboard I think that's how you pronounce that a law I mean that's blue switches it's like thirty dollars it's so cheap so you can get into the mechanical gaming keyboard market really cheap RGB though personally the one that I liked was the azo RGB came with a decent wrist rest of course I just recommend a few guys getting a keyboard this is why I didn't critique the arm the real force about not having a wrist rest because I would have used my own wrist rest anyway this thing is so good it costs like ten dollars it's like a latex memory foam wrist rest and i recommend like i've used this with any keyboard that I've got since I've been reviewing keyboards there's so damn good for your wrists you'll just go buy one they're like 10 bucks um I'll try and leave a link in the description below but you get them off ebay or amazon or whatever and they're just so good like I've even left the plastic on because I move it around that much so really cool item I use it with the real force I've used it with all my keyboards beforehand and since I got it and yeah I don't need a rest rest anymore so yeah that's what I that's what I'd recommend forever I wouldn't buy the keyboard based off the wrist rest but for terms of an RGB keyboard f of value for money wise i pick the azo mechanical it's with the blue switches it's so damn good like for a tee box or whatever i love that keyboard it looked good it felt good to type on actually got it over there for my fuller mom's computer so yeah there's a lot now there's a lot of cheaper RGB keyboards if you did sit on having RGB then yeah go with that if it's not if you don't really mind of having RGB or you just want by color leds and stuff like that then check out a ducky keyboard because that's what I've been preaching for years and they're just very very very good value for money great build quality so something like a and all the shine series or even just a shine for or shine 5 what I think would be very well Robin mukesh asked a good question will we get low lag 4k tvs i play my pc on a TV I think you will with the entry option of the ps4 pro being that it's the whole 4k even though it's not true 4k a lot of the times then there will be a TV manufacturer that will switch on and say well people are going to use this for competitive plays on their ps4 pro we need to get low input lag on these things so yeah we'll come I don't know of any real TV that's targeted with like a direct game mode like the bank you has on that very popular monitor that they have the 1080p one I think it's the 27 hmm or something that's yeah that's for that so keV respect if you look into the camera when you speak hey guys hey come on I guess that's stab at me I'm not managing the stream I got to manage the stream and read the questions and I'm sorry man I'm sorry can be a break come on may kill Isis I something I've always learned to do when you're doing this sort of thing to the yes I've got a managed to strength give me a break bro maybe but I'm sorry i'll try and look into the camera more that's a that's what he wanted to is is an indirect way of saying Brian look into the camera when you speak okay okay mr. Bob okay so anyway I might have to move my webcam from there to there because I'm looking into this stream thing for the Q&A a lot so yeah no I get what that means alright guys well if you have any more any last questions for us will do them and then where you got planned for this week Brian anything you don't want it you you got a few things that are sick or anything you want to let let a little bit of okays out okay we'll get the benchmark rig that's finally gonna get set up that's going to get set up this week sometime we got the high FPS gaming rig so there's like like literally there's going to be so many pc builds coming out in the next two weeks it's going to be like Brian why is there so many builds is just gonna see builds builds and more builds junik Ron's getting resurrected I know you guys going to be excited for that they're just so many bills is just insane unities like what the hell is this channel to build yes city you know like that's what is going to be is this pc builds coming it's going to be really cool the next few weeks i'm excited really excited just got over this sick it's properly like I finally feel in the last few days a bit better as well so really getting back into it no aircon as well I'm just yeah I will get there's a new place i'll be moving into the next few weeks I mean I'm not next few weeks next few months and that will have aircon but the problem is while by the time I move in there the weather would have cooled down anyway so yeah yeah yeahs want they want me to say hdmi H oh yeah hdmi hey a pH get over HDMI eh he said like how the British people say ah come on man i love my i love my fellow brits i'm from britain originally yes my ancestry bruh i sir am i coming before i'll just try Triple H hdmi get cells hdmi cable so yeah anyway guys thanks for tuning in to the stream this week it was really cool sorry I was late yeah keV had to he was busy in the morning so we just delayed it a couple of hours because I just want to keep this going for you guys every week it's really cool that you tuned in I love doing this show with kev is really cool yeah I hope you guys enjoyed the topics if you have any topics that you want to talk about desperately even if it's sort of off-topic that you want to talk about jump on Twitter send us a message and we can try and fit it into the show definitely towards the end of the show and take care of you guys so be sure to also hit up gives channel he's got up with the link in description below and that's about it guys thanks for tuning in so much and we will catch you in the next week kept you have any closing out statements has been really good in here guys um who sent us the articles that you'd like us to cover EU would like our opinions on over on Twitter or another site like that it would be really good for us because we try to make this so very interactive and that makes it a lot more fun if there's specific things you would like us to talk about then over the weekend you can send them to us and we'll check them out when we do the show so that's a good thing going forward yep all right guys we'll catch you next week thanks for tuning in and peace out for now bye