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Teague welcome back to episode 12 of the tech lounge and I'm joined here by kev from tech show down how you don't care I'm doing great Brian how about you really good man really good we've got the used parts i spent the whole weekend doing Jews parts think the people loved it people will like the lovin that like I want more of this but I was going to finish this thing yesterday but ran some hydro technical difficulties so yeah well armed I'll fix that up later but I've got all the benchmarking done on that rig so I'm just going to make the video actually got to cut a double the benchmarking stuff we have the g 3258 and a gtx 770 Brian just one sec ah my webcam is not showing up on the stream Oh some recent yeah it's up in mind yeah okay that is really odd the windows missing you might need to add it in to exploit or it's not being yeah you're up yeah it's so good my bad that was that was my bad oops so there that's all good it was a ghost now he's alive no I bet yes sir yeah anyway how you doing man yeah no I'm good bro um yeah just being cranking out all the key be like videos this week and and doing a lot so that's been really fun and done my first nvidia series video where i did a the gtx 1060 1070 1080 and gears of war 4 and went through the specific settings you should set the game at for the best gaming experience at 1080p 1440p and 4k yep so that was quite fun it's a pretty beast of a game though like even at 4k trying to get 60 frames with a 1080i you have to turn down some of the settings it's quite a beast even with the tenor yeah yeah yeah if you sit at ultra 1080 get about 48 frames average I could have to turn every drop off the filters and other things to help it a little bit I thought the Beast will south or 1080 was the be all and end all I thought it could just you had to you can max all the sliders and just forget about life there's another okay miss maybe when we get in a TTI that'll be the case but now it seems like whenever you get these newer GPUs that are so powerful the newer games that come out are just so much more difficult to run that it's sort of like a constant evolving thing but yeah and I checked out your samsung monitor video and I thought that was pretty awesome so what made it so good man is that those it is those LEDs like no okay well think about the ultra wide right you've got the ultra wide day you've got the hundred Hertz panel you've got all that you know fast it's a fast VA panel like it's a responsive the amplified pretty damn low but the thing that made it is those cutie LEDs like that thing you know you notice it straight away like being me having testing a ccfl monitor you know when I had that when I was doing all those benchmark builds in in Japan I had that ccfl 1080p monitor now you know the funny thing is this is when I really just started i get i started getting fed up like i've got a fire got a 4k monitor I've got a 1440 be monitor and they're white LED backlit then I've got the ccfl that little 1080p from 2008 a subpanel I started playing games on this thing and I was just like you know wow this is really good you know you just it for some reason it seems sharper the details there yeah you're green your Reds they're popping more than they would on a 4k TN panel with white LED backlighting so when I got the QT LED and I knew exactly what to look for you know with your own two eyes instead of instead of having someone go out there and tell you oh my god I've got this machine that is nowhere near what a human eye is but you can't compare a machine to a human eye and the Machine spinning out numbers yeah okay yeah well what is that you know biological eyes are made up a lot differently to these machines so mmm yeah you know you got to look at just use your own two eyes and say is this a good product and the CF 791 man phenomenal you know I bought it myself so people can't call me the sellout and all this I went on ebay and border myself for a thousand bucks because I wanted and back lane white LEDs are a scourge on our eyes they're terrible you know they should yeah we got we got shafted the whole tech industry has been shafted but no one goes on about it but me I'm the only guy seems to go on about it but I don't know maybe I just appreciate my vision I don't really know what it is so you know I even imagined a I couldn't imagine life without my vision so you know take care of your eyes guys take care of your eyes go watch the video I sort of not just I don't just praise the QT LED backlit monitor I also talked about why it's good why you should be getting out why you should be getting anything but white LEDs even go out and buy a second-hand ccfl backlit monitor test it yourselves yeah there's actually not that bad price-wise I mean like it's what do you say it's about a thousand USD which is it us I mean it is expensive some people don't it is expensive for a monitor but in when you compare it to all the other ultra lights that's about middle of the road eh that's not even like Heinz in terms of the ultra wide market I'm seeing plenty that go up higher than that yep and that's that's exactly right it's got ya and then it's got 100 Hertz and AMD freesync but let me know I'm not really buying for that I you know I'm on this thing so many hours of the day and its productivity yet that I'm concerned with and yeah my eyes are already getting treated you probably notice my eyes are like why don't why don't like yeah I can see like that Josh I was happy to mannys you know he can look at QT LEDs as well so everyone's happy around everyone is over the moon then I watched the test last night and Elvis Federer oh my god what a match what a match tennis I don't know tennis is really popular and I was I don't know why so I guess it's a little small yeah I just huge man nadal vs federer is like a dream final and you know Federer okay good on it so yeah those yeah so kewt LEDs guys it's legit it's hopefully it's rolled out in more our budget monitors like 1080p 1440p you hopefully it's rolled out some of those more budget options even 60 Hertz because yet which we have to start getting better technology in a Mon then white LEDs yeah exactly terrible you know they're terrible yeah I mean I noticed straight away with my eyes I can see you know detail way way better so okay I know now so what that noise is it's like you know every time I know it's on my and man is the real I like em like every time this is this is true story every time I go to film every time I could do something there's always that sets yeah you make sure you pick first man I see as you start it's I did quiet and then you sit down you're like a standing start filming and as soon as you do it's like someone starts a lawn mower or something your heart yeah yeah this is it like no budget and my brother he is where he's witness to it sometimes as well well it'll be it'll be pitch quiet for two hours I go to start filming Donald everything 20 cars drive by but guys doing burnouts it's stupid like now yeah so we'll go move on to the first topic and then I'll go figure out what this noises it's ridiculous because it's probably yeah that's a guy can I cottage they're actually just stopped in thank God so we're gonna hear the first topic we're going to move on here and video volts are allegedly launching in 2017 12 Nana me just been fed technology this is pretty huge what do you think about this I mean it looks it would eat me by surprise say like I I could understand I mean if it went by the body's saying 2017 I expect it to be at the very end would you not expect it around like october november type time that's when I would expect it anyways but um yeah I it just kind of takes me a little bit by surprise it does a were damn well what do what W CCF is saying this is why I pulled up the article it's not like your typical oh my god this is going to be the best thing ever it's going to change your life what they're kind of saying is that they're going to release it on the business end the 12 nanometer on the business end and then they're going to refresh maxwell for the gaming lineup and that kind of makes sense i mean because amy haven't even got there gtx any competitor out yet so you know in video of like wall that's are indeed cash we can just refresh a whole nother year with better clock speeds maybe a few more cuda cores on the don 27t so they've got some options there and i think that's what they're going to do they're going to roll this year with the maxwell refresh but that's that's what they're basically saying in this article so uggh yeah yeah yeah that's what it sort of seems like they're saying yeah I would yeah I would imagine that would be kind of the case but I think as I said so many times nvidia the these types articles are cool to read but Nvidia going to be playing this extremely reactionary they're going to be watching see what AMD does with Vega and depending on how that goes that will basically determine what they release and when they release it so I would imagine they're going to wait till Vega comes out and then the 1080 TI will come out which will be very similar to the tyne XP and then that will those will fight it out for a little while but right now if you think about it from invidious perspective I mean they're making they've got the entire high-end GPU market to themselves so why would they release anything people are still buying sin 80s people are still buying 10 70s and 10 60s Intel all over again 2006 Intel all over again I just taken the laser take it they've taken the lead and then all they're doing with it is they've taken the lead and all they're doing with it is basically rolling and saying hey we've got the lead we're going to make profit off it now so made from and you get like I mean you can't blame them though that's the thing you can't blame them for running a business so I just wish you know aimed you get their cards out they compete they bring the competition and they bring it hard that's all I want so but as far as yeah yeah exactly the good thing is we may even see a 26 TTI as well that's pretty cool yet there there might be something like that and by the way guys in chat Brian meant Pascal not Maxwell so are you freaking out these are pretty you guys you guys it's it's funny a like we do so many tech reviews that a lot of times things blur together but that's not to say it's just that all the different names for things because we have to cover so much you can it can blur together sometimes so yeah I can make mistakes like that well took me to eat so technically Pascal is just Maxwell on roids that's all with higher clock smack so there's not much of a difference there anyways but yeah sorry mum yeah but they're saying they're saying in the article though that most likely and this is what a lot of people saying they're most likely will be like a Pascal refresh yeah before you see Volta and I think that's pretty yeah pretty consistent so you'll see something like that I believe with more upgraded memory and other things like that to higher clock speeds what do you guys think of the chat you think we're going to get this I think we're gonna get served in 2017 a refresh that's what I think we're yet so I just don't see why they would ever unless Vega is just like absolutely smashes and video in terms of their cards and in terms of price of performance then I think they might get desperate and really something they bring out otherwise otherwise I think they'll just sit on their hands but yeah if it smashes them then maybe they'll you know maybe skip the Pascal refresh and jump straight to vault or something like that just take a do catch back up but I highly doubt that would be the case like there's like a five percent chance that's the case alrighty will otherwise smashing out these Pascal refreshes so there's actually i'll do cruising through wccftech news and they've got a good article here about invidious interests and the founders edition cards it's growing yeah it's going to continue to grow the atom board partners are kind of getting pissed off because that's out there really I'm happy with that yeah and so Nvidia's like well because it's so you know it's actually a big market like they're getting millions and millions in profit hundreds of millions it's a profitable market nvidia like well we can just start doing that too so basically the articles a little bit it doesn't really post any figures but it is something to think about like the board partners and that's why I think in this case sort of MSI AMD gigabyte and stuff who play both swing both ways they're kind of in a good position where they can sort of just pick up and make more AMD cards but I feel sorry for like EVGA and you know obviously like zotac the guys who are you know nvidia or only and you know that young and they can't do anything about it what's what's your opinion they're like you know that I feel sorry for these guys is their whole line of business and invidi is just coming in saying okay we're gonna do what we want and we're gonna take away your business which you know yeah loyal service we don't care yeah no no I get that um I mean the founders edition themselves shouldn't I don't know a single person actually owns one because a they're more expensive they usually come in a higher than well at least they did for the 1070 1080 it was only just because nvidia has a monopoly early on that was about the only one you could get be yeah i could understand whether Adam partners Adam board partners and stuff are upset because it is nvidia selling something directly instead of going through the different companies um but i think it only does well for them at the start because they release the graphics card and just a sec then right what's up you're right it's like right when you start streaming some dude gets out like I even know what it is it's like a whistle like he's got this whistle and it's just late without the front of like out front of my door okay so I'm just like troll this close slam the door of course i will start sweating a little bit but you know sure you don't mind huh oh you can take your shirt off in the views to get through the roof yeah but ya know as I was saying I think honestly I'm when it comes down the founders edition i think the board partners might get a bit grumpy but i honestly don't think it probably impacts them that much it's just when it first is released the real people that are super hyped will buy the card which will most likely be a founders because there's nothing else to buy and then over I mean like I was watching playtex a section on graphics cards we can buy them and it was only for about the first few months that you could get a pair founders edition and then they disappeared off the website give although already though holding a monopoly man like does the thing they're if they're setting back the custom designs a couple of months and they're just releasing their founders edition exclusive for a couple of weeks or a month or whatever so it's kind of it's annoying that I doing that just to drive sales to their own brand but especially when something else has been in place sort of like an agreements been in place for years and years beforehand but yeah yeah it's just sad to see the industry go this way AMD well it is to a certain perspective but I mean AMD sort of I don't know i mean like yeah Andy has sapphire so in a lot of ways they're kind of doing it already to a certain degree with the fact that they own one of the companies yeah that distribute their GPU so they sort of do it but in an indirect kind of way yes true so all right well this is the next article got up here as Zeus is announcing the designer curve MX 34 VQ now it's kind of making news but that's the thing right I looked straight away it doesn't have QT LEDs in the back and that's what I asked myself they sort of alluding to live alluding to what you know backlighting it actually has but just looks like it's got white LEDs in the back so as I mainly I'm going to be making a big focus now on high-end monitors if they're coming out if I am monitors are going to start being released and they need high-end backlighting that's my or at least something better than the lowest of the low back lighting so I mean the specs look really good you got 34 inch got 1,800 I curvature apparently home theater quality audio but is this panel is it going to hit the market and have you know that awesome backlighting is going to have something different to white LEDs yeah and I I'd say no because they've got a zoo psych air here and you know essentially just does what flux does can drop the blue line give you a warm you know orange sort of tinted picture but that's really only for nighttime use when you want to get to bed so yeah no other than that goes that's the zoo says anyone waiting for the design Oh curve oh yeah beautifully interestingness you guys do you like um officiated burner the Dino good t know yeah debian yeah okay yeah that won't be right ah the i was wondering if you guys in chat like do you guys enjoy altra wide Steve would be something you would buy or would you just prefer a more standard screen you know like a normal 4k 28 inch monitor would you like to go for one of these like this one a 34 inch 3440 x 1440 I think I think that's the thing with ultra wats to write DD have you seen the 29 inches like they are you know I would rather get a cheap Korean 27 inch monitor then the 21 29 inch was you know like I put my hand like my hands 20 centimeters i'm a 34 inch here it probably takes almost two hands on a 29 inch for some reason my hand can almost fit the whole like a height of the 29 inch monitor like it they're ridiculously i think the tool a shallow they're not tall enough and that's that's my great with the 29 inches I think you're better off just because they're about whatever they might be two hundred bucks sometimes I'd say you better off getting that Korean 1440p 27-inch but now 1440p ones the big 34 inch 35 inches they're the ones that are really damn good they really give you a good extinct you they open up your eyes do you like wow this thing is actually pretty freaking awesome on your desk yeah exactly that's what's my opinion with it um I think you'll start seeing a lot more I agree especially if you're buying if you go and spend a couple of thousand bucks on a rig think about you monitor as well so yeah it's so overlooked and I think the main thing is say I think you would agree with this you pretty much in my point of view I wouldn't go to an ultra-wide if it was one of the 1080p ones on that you're seeing like the 2560 x 1080 I think you pretty much have to go to that 3440 by 1440p yeah that's really really nice do you get the nice resolution and a nice sort of screen real estate with you with that one then you get the refresh rate throwing in there as a bonus like 100 Hertz for me it's just perfect oh oh yeah that's great yeah and then of course hey guys the Zeus they're announcing the Dino the Dino curve Dean yeah I don't know it's coming out apparently 750 pounds 20th of march so if you're looking for the Dino just have to get your razor out and scrub out the sick and the and that's it yeah you get the don't way that would make it the dinner alright so we got a seagate blends to release a 16 terabyte hard drive next year like 16 terabytes are you freaking kidding me on a mechanical drive five hundred and forty bucks to the price wait that's not the price of it the last year's 10 terre by model but you can spected to be around a similar price but things right thing is would you in all honesty would you have one mechanical drive with 16 terabytes on there well I'm not sure how well is this really aimed at the consumer market or is this aimed at the industry I aimed at people who want 16 terabytes on a mechanical drive like yeah I suppose here i mean the there was talk of even bigger coming sometime soon 20 terabyte but I yeah that's I don't know i i'd rather get this uh I i I'd know I I don't think I'd want to risk everything on one drive like that all my mass storage um it's better to maybe spread out I mean you could fit you know if you're running a Nass then yeah this will probably have a place in there yeah people running their home networks yeah that would I mean that's probably what it's been made for actually so then it would probably be all right if you had a few of them in there yeah ah but yeah for average user I'm not so sure was the thing I think three or four terabytes is kind of like where you're going to top off for me personally like I wouldn't want any more space on my hard drives that thing fails man it's like okay there's there's like a couple of days just wasted because you have to back up and get a new 16 terabyte hard drive you have to fill it up with all the data problems we're getting that six because you know you're gonna have to return and get that thing warranted because freaking 16 terabytes going to see you back a lot of money so yeah three of them yeah I got the moment I've got a busted 3 terabyte western digital drive oh my god first this is my first experience where I had a dead Western to a 3 terabyte hard drive that's why I was telling people about the heat this thing died in the summer this thing down the dead heat of summer man I was like a 34 degree day and I'm like copping like my other hard drive all the contents from that drive over to this Drive and the thing like it just got too hot man it's just too hot in the drive just shout itself so now it's bastard but he will kill hard drives like especially mechanical drives guys if you got mechanical drives in especially in summer give them a fan they deserve a fan they need a family and that fanboy is a fan so give him a fan and they should be okay I didn't but it's still under warranty so I'm going to get it replaced that yeah just the heat kill these things man yeah and I mean I tested the windows to make you like testing yep the Playtex rogue system and that had no drives in it like no dry baits and no obstacle drives or anything and it just had the single m2 or 512 good one yep and that that's pretty sexy a I really like how clean it looks man like inside the system so i think maybe that'll be the way for it if they start releasing you know m dot tues for cheaper with larger sizes i think that'll be the way the future people would just want run any sort of mechanical or sada base drive that's true yeah I agree yeah so next up we got gives a war for multiplayer supports cross-play now this is something that i really like because gives well for is a pretty popular game so the multiplayer is going to support cross-play now they sort of they don't talk about the future of this like what games are going to support cross-play but i'm really hoping cod start supporting cross place so I can just get on my P do that really make a paddler on the pc yeah if you get on cod and start ponent some console boys boys yeah just get on that just get on their stuff yeah you know really start getting on that like start getting the playerbase all together now one thing I'm worried about is you know you didn't see ps4 here so is that what is that sort of where Microsoft's going to go with cross player they're just going to be like all right xbox one and pc only I think that's something you're going to see even if the game is on PlayStation 4 I think that's something you're going to see is sort of Microsoft's all right well forget about playstation 4 we're going to make sure this game works with our PC users at I xbox one user base yeah because they are focusing on where she should have pulled that article but apparently the project scorpia is going to be a really powerful console there you go they're putting their heads to work they're gonna make a really awful console yeah like apparel is going to be insanely fast that'll be good news because people will be like okay well get on project Scorpio and there's cross play with PC I can play with my mates you know even though I've got my might cut my true colors are console I'm a console fanboy blah blah blah my friends are PC fanboys and there's no problem yeah we're going to be able to cross play on our favorite games so I think that's something that Microsoft really is focusing on and as long as good for the community especially pc users because then we've got more players to play against exactly yeah kind of suck if they're going to sort of go exclusivity with this and Sean PlayStation users well I'm really care being on PCs because you know more of anything sped off so yeah yeah but yeah I feel sorry for people on PlayStation if this is the route they're going to take what do you think about the cross Blake if I do it'll yeah it's going to happen more and more we're already seeing it happen more and more so um yeah I know I'd see it as a good thing obviously more people playing better you know why would I have a problem with it you're gonna have I mean there's this sort of people say about like sort of balance issues regarding it but ya know hard in our heads you know that's a men in social console peeps are telling me that control is way better than that keyboard mouse my brother tells me this I'm like really you for real dope I don't I don't agree with that you for real body fat but I'm yeah I think it's yeah that I independently game i think in first-person shooters it's pretty you know fair for the most part but maybe in other types of games um that wouldn't really work i I think it'll work in anything to be honest especially racing car games I'd be really cool a racing game yeah that would work yeah because that's a they probably if they advantage of it that's well that's where I use a controller is the racing games on their awesome for racing games racing sims so yeah that's it gives a well gives it gives a will you artificial intelligence can splice skincare now this is important i pulled this up because Ozzie's get a lot of legal I think we'd like one of the highest nations in the world gets skin cancer but I'll surprise people in the States every year there's 5.1 million new cases of skin cancer in the United States that's pretty freaking huge I mean I know their populations not big but there's still a lot of cases of skin cancer every year so apparently they've developed this AI algorithm and it's got Leah deep learning so it'll just scan through a hundred and thirty thousand images of skin cancer and now apparently it's really accurate like after they did that they then did test subjects and ninety-six percent of the time this thing was on the money and spotting out malignant samples and ninety percent of the time just said okay that's harmless so it's pretty accurate and now they ragged what they think with this article it's really good is they think you can actually put this on a smartphone in the future in a way you know you just scan yourself like have a look and tell me what you think ai and the AI be like well you got to get that checked out that's pretty cool yeah like that means that's good thing for Australians here I'll pull away this picture pretty drop you know the viewers would be like get that off the screen I could completely agree yeah what about New Zealand you have any problems with skin cancer uh yeah we do yeah well ins got big problems of it as well because of the UV race we get so much yeah here through that killers man you outside and just do skip burnt instantly I'll see it's bad but it's not as bad as here oh really damn so there we go you could use a I algorithms you could use this instead of going to it instead of going to a doctor you know look I'm guilty over to it you ever guilty of just going on google and being like I pathing up what could it be and then it says like go see a doctor immediately okay I'll guess I'll go see a doctor immediately but i kinda want some so at reassurance that this is an eye cancer a zombie autonomy so yeah symptoms of i can sir you know I'm hypochondriac I think they call it that yeah hypochondriac people who worry about hyper country is a person that yang says sick all the time you know you're only an actual hyper contract if you're like constantly going to the doctor oh yeah thinking you've got something bad random but yeah have you ever met a hypochondriac ah yeah you how used to know yeah true story again so we gotta have windows moving on to the next topic we've got windows 10 creators previews out so I think I their game mode they got streaming they've also got a cool feature here built in flux essentially that's really cool because now you know now I cannot install flux and have one less app in the program but it's kind of sucks because flux has always been awesome but you can actually change a color temperature night and you can have it so it automatically does it all for you but it's going to be sad to see flocks go flux has been part of my life you know for the last couple years it's been a really good program if you guys aren't using flux and you're on a white LED backlit monitor go download it seriously go download flocks now install it and you'll be sleeping better at night well unless you've got blue laser glasses so go do it right Gunners yeah exactly yeah yeah and that's that's nothing so they got that built in the game modes still still ambiguous man I mean apparently like one guy in the comments like he lost a ton of frames his gears of war went down from 100 from 140 down to 70 things are broken so apparently he isn't working properly i don't know what is game mode is it just apparently this gives exclusivity to the game or whatever and i don't know it will just stop everything going on on the background that doesn't really need to be going on yeah well um yeah then they got useless streaming feature i mean if you're streaming you're going to be still using your whatever xsplit or you're going to be using OBS it's going to be using the programs and you're using because you trust them and you know how they work yeah yeah yeah I'm actually sort of i was a little bit hyped for this but after seeing and i'm not too hyped except for the I inbuilt flux that's that's pretty hype I mean it's still a while off yet though isn't all eyes they win so rolling it out like they're rolling a review yeah yeah preview yeah but they could make study they'll probably still make a few changes here and there before actually goes low for the rest of us that role in an hour brother that's what they're doing right now you getting excited man you're getting excited for Windows 10 creators building it next article we got it Angele Angele announces their full wrap their full revenues so the ops 70s sent from 2015 results like are you kidding me they're up it's amazing either they can still keep going up I mean I be other areas well I'm really surprised that they went up like that's that's something that's kind of shocked me because we've sort of had nothing but hashtag rehash you know 2016 and stuff like that but of course there's their server the server industry is really strong I you can see there's like you know their revenues up Simpson so 17.2 do a billion from 16 billion a year ago so so that's the data group center you see yeah that's what spawn them on yet their business sectors doing really well yeah so it's all this all the stuff that we really don't hear about is up which is good because then you know it consumer products and server products kind of go hand in hand right you know you can shoot to a certain picture yeah yeah because you know you always going to get the speedy consumer price generally generally once upon a time there just spin-offs of the business the business stuff was the cream of the crop then the consumers got all the all the drakes kind of thing yeah I mean it's kinda like it's gonna let your friend giving you that lost ten percent of his gatorade or whatever you like home here Thursday man physio I want to treat that maze like it might have back well yeah it's doesn't matter talk about it back watching it you know you're still getting a you're still getting the Gatorade but you just you might have a bit of back washing in whatever this is exactly what's going on here consumers we get in the back wash so but it's good backwash you know 58 20k that was good backwash g45 y ax t there's some good backwash coming out at the moment so this is a good stuff coming out what do you think that what do you think well it's interesting because it says their desktop platform volume was down nine percent there you go so no more volumes remain flat so that it is just this business section with their servers and stuff like that it's cam and other stuff and all the data stuff here that'll be doing pulling them up which is what a lot of us expected what they say yeah yes there's a client computing group as well that's up two percent so it's everything to do with non US mainstream gamers and whatever and and yeah it's everything but enthusiasts is up and so that's sort of carrying the whole thing up its carrying the whole statistic up yeah like I said nine percent downs like damn that's a bad statistic so desktop platform volume was down nine cents like damn that's that's pretty big news so yeah everyone's waiting on business everyone's waiting for Zen but I guess intelligence doesn't care that's pretty much in a nutshell yeah because they don't have to care because it's like yeah the down nine percent I just really don't care because it's not affecting their business their main chunk of their businesses the server market you know died um yeah exactly so this is where is that so yeah if they'll still be sitting pretty I mean there are with ricin there are going to be CPUs made for survey use which we've discussed previously yeah so it's not like AMD is going to completely leave until to that area they are going to attempt to halt some of that money away from them I haven't pulled up the manifesto you I'm going to pull up the manifesto right now so this is anas the manifest NFS start yeah that's it we're gonna pull up that hey come on man we're going with an oath theme today we got the Azuki you get these Zeus Dino we got the manifesto yeah so what we go here is this is actually really cool eh I'm kind of surprised because it's sayin that AMD summit ridge we can have the eight core 16 thread scoring around about 1300 in sinaa benched if i'm reading this right i think i think it means above 1300 by the arrow ok this special zensah sr7 will be above 1300 then the non special one I wish I guess will be some different one will be about 1300 which puts it in line with a 6850 k but i mean i'm looking at the one here for 350 bucks because I mean hundred fifty dollar surcharge for a sort of like a cherry pick sample still gonna be a which is what I we expect it a lot of people's there's like the 8320 versus the 8350i would have picked the 8320 like it offered a better value need you take that you think Zach you get your money you go to the casino why do you go to the center you get a sinner to gamble yeah it's like yeah okay so it's like dropping forty dollars on a hand of blackjack and you can only win twenty dollars but you got now a seventy-five percent chance of winning or seventy-three percent chance what are you going to do I'm going to play the twenty dollars so i can double up you know what I mean oh yeah I don't check then you play the gamble prior go you go to silicon lottery save 100 actually that's not too bad i mean depends on how much extra these clocks at these chips these chips are clocking on average so it depends on how much better the cherry pick sample is over the non cherry-pick sample but i'm loving the price of that ecor 16 throughout a 350 bucks if that's a reality yeah i mean that we have no idea if this is legit or not but what I find also interesting is n sr5 that six core yep they're saying actually has 12 threads yes we r we we we spoke last time about how from the information we had then that it was looking to be a 6-core 6 threat but they're saying well from this it looks like it's going to be a 636 core 12 straight what's interesting that they're saying it's going to get a cinebench score of about a thousand and it's going to come in at about two hundred fifty dollars yeah if you look down below it the Intel lineup from Sky lake and rumor that the difference between Scylla and kb lake isn't very big at all IPC alone is identical you'd see that that would be beating a stock 6700 k it would be yeah or over 250 bucks yeah and that's looking really dollars less let's not make any dollars less and I was telling you I was hyped for the six cool a lot of people going to be hard for that fork or eight threads that's gonna be cool but the six core 12 threats I think that's what it's going to be at fig I think that's gonna be a beast I really a lot of people in a tech community telling you that's the one they keep your eye on yeah the be mentioned coupling out with a be 350 k cuz u DX yeah the ex 370 board you're probably going to want to get that with an eight-core 16 thread just because you're going to have the extra phasers down the vrml we'll talk about a little bit later but six score 12 thread be 350 that looks like it's going to be your sweet spot even for the guys who want to go get out a gtx 1070 and gtx 1080 or even a vega GPU if they want to hold out this looks like is going to be the cpu to get on a budget if indeed that 1000 cinebench points is true for it out of the box mmm you know if that's not true that's like Max overclocks and geez we're done yeah yesterday for the 600 of a fork or can get like 1080 when it's overclocked I still got to delete that thing into a video but yeah well I mean yeah I just did it the other day so a 6600 k at 4.4 gigahertz will score about 727 yeah in cinebench so and a 7600 cable score the same thing so if you think if it's at a thousand unless you're 6600 k or 7600 k probably overclocks up to like 4.9 gigahertz even then I don't think it would beat it it wouldn't get over a thousand or you'd be you might get up to 900 but that's a that's a tall order to beat so if judging by that if it does get a thousand straight out of the box then Intel's going to be in trouble because there's no way even a 7700 k is going to have trouble catching up to that guy if thats its stock speed and it overclocks like crazy then the 7700 k will it's done it's just I've just throw yeah just go get a return return easy to 70 motherboard in life so what they did it they said it here this is it this is exactly right i just noticed it so that shows my my numbers are correct they put beside at 720 @ 4.5 for the 6600 k & 1030 at 4.7 for the 6700 k so you know you'd maybe get a bit higher maybe get up to 1100 if you can get your 7700 k up to 5 gigahertz but look at how good virus at sr5 can it go you know how powerful is that going to be and that's what what would it be interesting but this is unverified so we don't know how mmm XTC the e could stand for estimated to and I mean there's gonna be people like why why are we even looking at Cinebench r15 cinebench is single-handedly i love this benchmark I mean look II it stresses all the threads of ale it stresses the whole CPU can go do it yourself pull up the whatever media you want to watch you you hit the start button on cinebench you'll CPUs loaded up to one hundred percent full loaded yep it gives you just a realistic score of how this thing is going to perform it's just like the physics cool i like the physics core and fire strike but i think that's a little bit tilted towards hyper-threading same with this of course I cinebench our focus is enough interest yeah they're both tilted towards hyper-threading but they give you a max theoretical score that you for multi-threaded performance but there's more for I mean it's starting to become more common in gaming but especially for Poitras yeah yeah especially on the lower end especially on the lower end core counts that's where it's really the max call like the you know the 10 core 23 even the eight core 16 thread it's sort of a little bit irrelevant especially with Adobe you know not giving us proper freaking multi-threaded support like yes started curve off freaking what the hell the yeah yeah yeahs give us the 6 quart well thread like make it happen guys I really want to see this 250 bucks yeah was it listen man that's a lot of power for two hundred fifty dollars of that if this stays consistent it is men so guys get hyped in the comments just in caps AMD's back guys but with instead of spelling a GU YS spell at GA is you know like go for it in the comments yeah I've heard have you heard anything more about Rosen's release date no not yet and even if I did okay like if I was under India couldn't say anything either so now it's not under well I've heard something from the industry which i'm pretty sure i can tell people but it may not be correct though so there's just things i hear from different people got um i'm pretty sure it will be out sometime in March apparently yeah that's when a lot of there's a lot of chat about March with you in terms of different dates and stuff like I don't know if it's at the very start or at the very end but that's the month that I keep hearing from people that things are expected due to a table yes promises by different people for different things I'll put it that way but that's what I keep hearing March and so that's what I think right now it will be coming out then so much is going to be the month where we've got different folks for different strokes yeah hopefully hopefully that's what that's what it's looking at and then our Vega is looking like it's going to be pushed back to sort of June July type time yeah alright so we got here next hour biostar am for their related going to release their x3 70s there be 350 model boards looks I mean looks pretty good they gone with the camo I like the camera camera is really cool but I wait no racing flag okay I'm looking at this class a checkered flag yeah okay so there will the guys I mean you get the racing chair now you need your racing motherboard this is don't tell me this is going to be the 2017 by 2016 was easily the year of RGB is 2017 to be the year of racing like everything your sound bars gonna have checkered flags on it your monitors gonna have bezels like checkered flags and you you're gonna get a condenser microphone with like a chair racing car spoiler like yes I mean I'm a little bit concerned here I mean a racing motherboard like what does it do lady doesn't do anything wait you know motherboards mother believes as long as it's got a good vrm that's really yeah like oh it's just for this is the thing that they do I can understand why the danica speed they put this GT I mean there's the gt3 racing which is the Porsche racing so maybe that's what they were going for with their GT GT five if she if they 7 i would pay I'd pay for that I'd legitimately pay for this if they could put a speaker on there and have its own separate chip so when you press the power button again they do that they do that already want it must have i've been texting their predator when you turn it on it makes this big growling noise um well no it needs to be like or even start playing that shoot when you go to turn your pc off it is that you know that Schumacher song Schumacher update my dad and aunt Denton don't dance and aunt bee doo doo doo doo doo doo doo I said if I will get it seriously a350 b3 50s where I've been looking I've been my eyes have been on the be 350 since they announced it I think it's going to be the cookie cutter it's going to be that bored you're going to get because this time around they're not going to make that mistake of giving it like the 970 boards they were releasing some of those things with terrible VRMs this time around I think you're going to make a power like this one looks like it's got a 7th phase design we don't know what sort of MSI and the others are doing exactly on their VRMs yet but rest assured you're going to see some really solid B 350s come out and you know the best thing about the be 350 is they've got two PCI legacy slots on there that is so freaking cool because I honestly I'm a big fan of having a pci sound card over a PCIe now got a they're cheaper be they don't have as many problems so i think that's cool they bring you back pci really freaking yeah as only on the be 350 you look at the X 379 they hang up pci so be 350 greater than symbol X 370 but I suppose you could put it that way better the the X 370 definitely makes up with it with that 14 face power yeah well that's I mean that'll be the one further serious the enthusiasts will gravitate towards the x3 so what biostar though for biased i mean you know i was looking to buy 0 stars financials to this is another thing scary fat guys these guys were predicted to go bankrupt already so apparently their finest was looking pretty bad pretty bad like the patio is something there parently got so much debt it's not funny so yeah it's interesting as well that we have on the x 370 the if you skipped through the pictures on the top one they've got the GT seven then x 370 gt5 which is it goes down to a seven face power as well yeah which means just looking from the specs they've provided there's very little difference between that lower model x 370 and the be 350 said the fact that it's digital power is that like is that how they ripping a Zeus off there with digipen because I mean like I've got a HOA 81 m that's got dizzy power on it so I mean we're going to see a Zeus release some real you know a hard-hitting be 350 s like you're going to see a lot of companies hit hard with the b3 50s it's going to be a no brainer but what I'm concerned is biostar is that they can have a tough time making a name for themselves because motherboards are actually a pretty competitive market Leigh yeah you've got four different companies really gone for the desktop market you know asrock msi gigabyte horas now is a taurus and a zoo so why that's there yeah yeah yeah so you've got four companies really going hard at it I kind of find out I see biased I having a real tough time picking up their brand name yeah I don't see that going particularly well sir and plot will plus plus if someone buys this and they have a problem you're going to hear about it a lot more than the other four right because it's a new company someone's going to be nervous about buying it so if they buy the gigabyte they got a prom I'll just return it it happens if they buy the biostar and they have a problem oh my god this new company I've never bought anything from had a problem vent you know so yeah yeah I think I think it's going to be hard for him down to the market that's all what do you guys think in the comments let us know in the chat so there's a lot of you know gigabytes for life and stuff like happen hopefully i will be though i'm going to be focusing on the be 350 when i first get it looks like it's going to be awesome but yet that's about it for you guys um we got questions ah we have one question on the form a question for deck lounge do you think it's going to be a common practice with so we're going to move on to Q&A guys start asking those questions go at it in the chat I've got it's like because my i'm using the stream of the ultra wide right here i've got there so my head's going to be turned to here to read the comments a little bit sorry about that fills just bear with me so kev will be breeding questions too but first question we got here on the forum so we're going to take priority to the forums so if you wanted to sign up to the forums tech city TV / forum sign up awesome place we've got awesome people there do you think is going to be a common practice for new or high-end in enthusiasts intel cpus to have to deal it'd them apply new thermal compound before you overclock them now i think with um x99 they're not going to do that because x 99 s that you pay you you pay for you pay good money for x 9 you pay it on the motherboard and you pay it on the cpu now if you're going to cut down on the enthusiast lineup if you're going to cut down on that real sort of like you can have people in business because people in business you know I know a lot of people who are our necks 99 for business yeah because that's yeah like you know that's it's great for a single solution in your home for whatever you're doing if you're a photo editor photographer whatever you a lot of people use next 99 now if you're cutting down your skimping on that that's going to be because you can have that one cpu that thermal places isn't applied properly and that person is going to be you know throwing rocks he's going to be livid so I don't think will happen on s9 I'm of course it's happened on the four cores and it's going to keep happening on the four course until saving money are you know all those real enthusiasts they just deleting the things anyway and to be honest I think if you do a deal it I'm going to probably just go out on a whim here and say that I honestly think that if you delete a chip it's actually better than a solder make the flux the solder because you've got that you've got that lick especially with koolaburra tories liquid / that stuff is amazing you spread that on nice even layer drop that thing back on temps are incredible now so I mean I'm not defending yeah like I hate the fact that their cost cutting and it's affecting the majority of people on for course but at the same time if UD lid it's pretty cool if you got the koolaburra towards liquid / on there so I don't know I just think fish feels like we're going backwards I mean I thought we dealt with this in Devil's Canyon now back at it again you know yeah the problem is their problem is that has will refresh they fix the thermal paste on the house will refresh they fixed it like it was too bad it wasn't too bad cabbie lake it's terrible again it's actually I think it's the worst it's ever been yeah it's it's a great one hundred really bad I can't wait to get my little D lid tool because I don't recommend doing the Vice method on Sky lake or can be like I think the PCBs are too thin the risk of damaging your CPU is a lot higher than it is on house well a lot higher and over and over bridge so get a get a proper tool if you're going to deal it get a proper tool because the PCBs are just too thin we're going over some questions here movers some questions oh yeah well a lot of questions coming in keV you got to keep up on this bra yeah yeah how is this someone asked what is bitter upgrade rising or free sync I'm not really sure doing the is kind of two separate things if you're wondering what 10 it's very difficult in terms of which ones can i upgrade your experience the most I mean it depends on what you're running right now precinct is pretty cool I do like it but then again a lot of people don't even notice problems with that with screen tearing and stuff you know like a lot of people who don't actually care that much or they'll just turn vsync on and they won't worry about ghosting type issues and that's it depends on the person but yeah I think rising for a lot of people will be a very good upgrade hopefully oh yeah it as long as these numbers of ring and truth those cinebench numbers are ringing true reisen is going to kick ass what do we think about the new g 45-60 i absolutely love it i've done a couple of videos on it already phenomenal cpu for the money it's going to be hard to beat it's really going to be hard to beat on the extreme budget and especially since it could be coupled with those cheap motherboards the G 45-60 is easily a win of course I want to see what AMD have verizon but it's not going to get much better even if it did get better that's all I can say so yeah bio stars yeah apparently a lot of people like okay they've been using their boards for 15 years dang ok I just I've never seen them on retail shelves in odds so I don't know how long they've been helpful but I check their financials and apparently they're pretty bad I shouldn't maybe I should keep that off a strangler yeah don't don't don't like if you're using biostar and you're happy keep using them guys again don't let my then let my stupid opinions affect you how much how much is a used I 2,600 in your country here I I sevens are expensive men you know if I was going for an i7 2600 because the you just get it on board and just get the 1231 IV just the foot the first I think it's the first what a v2 maybe you get the Sandy Bridge ZL variant and it's going to be a little bit cooler so yeah but they go pretty expensive i'd say that easily still be around 150 us for 2600 k at least that was the biggest the biggest crime i think oversaw from Intel was the 2600 cane the 2700 k the fact that they charged so much more for the 2700 k and the only difference between it was that it had a hundred megahertz higher clock speed that was the only difference yeah well you can be anything it is 2700 and the 2600 k they were both overclockable and so many people fell into that trap um which is quite sad you know um that they did that to people so I didn't like that and tilted that looking back now I think that was very cheeky it was chicken move so gotta see I have you guys tried the micro board ultra white Korean monitor no but I parents got million panels the samsung when I saw the samsung how the QT LEDs I just you know I saw that I've been watching the micro board for a few months I almost bought it I mean there was a few videos up i think texts in right now sorry what is it crit critical strike so critical strike did a video on the micro board and it was pretty good i was like damn that i want to buy one of these things but i was like nah white leds before i buy a high-end monitor i'm going to wait for proper backlighting i started remember we were doing like we're talking about OLEDs with the last couple of weeks you know we're talking about OLEDs so I just started doing research I was like okay what the Hisense released this cutie LED TV I was like I started researching and then this monitor popped up I was like are you serious it's out already it's not out on the Strand I didn't know if it's out on a strand retail shelf but it was on freakin ebay from dream cellar now dreams he's pretty cool i like i love buying from this guy i bought a few korean monitors from him already every time they've been on point i was just like dude can you mark this thing down customs a little bit yeah just a little bit just a little bit getting under the limit ease i if sure bro do you do um it did me do it best monitor i've ever used in my life yeah my its cutie leds they're legit so the micro board i'd say you know spend the extra money that's just my opinion because i know i've got a white LED korean monitor right here like this is it here here it is here guys you know he i get to market on the stream but here it is here it's you know white leds you can just see the difference like side by side that both got VA panels i believe this this is a korean monitor with the VA panel and I've got them side by side and you can see the difference you know there's just yeah it does make a difference I'd recommend just paying the extra money your eyes will thank you even if you don't consciously notice it subconsciously your eyes will be saying thank you for this glorious cutie LED technology yeah my know how much in Australia for a Snickers are they sometimes they go on special it calls for a dollar glad you asked yeah it's nice because it's amazing this question was quite good if you do a lot of multitasking how noticeable was a difference between a fork or 2 06 / a core with hyper-threading in your experience so I actually went from a 4770k which is a quad core with hyper-threading to a 6900 k which is an a core with hyper-threading it's not so much the notice ability in multitasking i would say unless you're just doing extreme multitasking with you know heaps and heaps and heaps heaps of stuff it's more the productivity you really notice it like render times when I'm doing my videos oh it's just haft if not more yeah that's that side of things has just been fantastic so that's really where I've noticed the major difference in gaming performance between the two there's not that much difference to be honest i don't think i would notice any difference between the two to be completely fair the single thread of performance isn't anything to write home about it's just that pure grunts of the multi-threaded performance when you're doing productivity stuff is absolutely fantastic and that's where I really notice it and if you're doing photo editing and other things like that you'll really notice it as well I going up to a six core a core yeah i'll play my i play my two cents here i think the six core is the balance king personally i think if you overclock that thing you've got because the most multitasking I'll ever do is have a game open I'll be rendering be listening to music and i'll be on skype whatever you know you're doing four different things at the same time that's it will notice a difference going from a four-course escort doing that even more so an eight-core would be a little bit a bit suks scores really the balance there if you're a power user and you're doing a lot of stuff at the same time any more than that yeah the more you do the more cause you'd want obviously but as well the memory speeds I find make it this is where the memory speeds make the difference in my opinion if you overclock your memory too ridiculously high levels they do help with multitasking that's just what I've found like just when you're snapping between programs yeah I noticed a little bit yeah I'm pretty anal retentive though so some people going to be like air but I'm pretty anal retentive about these little things like this but that's where memory speeds do make a bit of a difference also good asked v-moda m100 s i'm wearing v motors but they're the crossfade LP s now these things are ridiculously good for a neutral sound like I don't know which model they are i just bought them for use for 50 bucks but when i started editing with them they were extremely good for editing never had someone complain about my audio ever since i got these so I love them armed consumer listening like end collared headphones I've got the l ones but they're there again they're colored so they're pretty warm headphones crossfade LP i absolutely love them as an all-rounder and they're good for music they're good for editing really good headphones v-moda make some incredible products too so how to check them out x 99 is already dead yes it is X nu X 2 99's already had been announced that that is yeah yeah okay so next upgrade new 144 hurts or I lost the question the guy was asking about so many questions coming in guys awesome i love it because sometimes you get no questions i'd rather there be a lot of questions I lost the question and a what mom memory were you running by the what at what memories are you running what speech since we're just talking about three gigahertz at the moment just reading the Panther I actually know I'm running him at 2,600 I think I've got the timings down I've actually got a check which one up yeah ok here we go we got here next upgrade he wants a new hundred and forty-four hurts 1080p monitor away no he didn't ask a question on my god he just city's getting that what is a better off crowd rising or free sync are weird to talked about that yet okay yeah um right there I'd say anyway I'd say yeah I said it rise it's difficult to answer yet in some ways I already sarbat Rosen's a big upgrade it's going to be great why isn't the G 45-60 in the US yet that's interesting hey I've got no idea why am I guess they're tested you know this is the thing though this is the thing you know you've seen it with ebay you've seen it with a few companies before you see like Australia for instance is like a testing ground I think they want to see how well the G 45-60 does in Australia and the UK and then maybe they can sort of like figure out the pricing a little bit i'll share the cpu cell into well it's going to be cutting on the i3 completely maybe we should up the price 20 bucks I think that's why because the u.s. is a huge market right that's you know the G 45-60 hits the US I can imagine so many people buying this thing so I think that's why it hasn't hit the US yet if there was a legit reason for it that would probably be it I think they're testing the waters with it in other countries to see how well it sells and then you're going to see ya hit the US but i think it's just such good value for money Australia's 78 australian dollars friggin bargain 58 USD or whatever converted that's insane for a cpu new cpu like that ok young business objectives would it be worth buying a 144 hurts IPS 1440p monitor now or later and just buy a 60 Hertz 1440p monitor now i have a uh 9 fury nitro nice choice waiting and it will be peering with a risin cpu so i actually really really really love 1440p high refresh rate it's probably my favorite types of monitors are those ones it's just so good for gaming oh it's just specially if it's g-sync or free sync as well because you have you tried the Sentinel transforms it yeah I haven't tried the samsung any given I will there you go hopefully in the future that is really really damn nice I think I mean as Brian said earlier um you know you do spend all your time looking at the monitor so getting a really good monitor does a transforming experience so yeah if you can get that really good one then I would say it's worth it yeah just remember though you need to power the system power to run it there's no point getting a higher fresh rate monitor if your system is not powerful enough to pump the frames out yeah if it's just going to be sitting it around 60 anyway I mean what's the point so well the thing is absolutely well the thing I was going to say is I'd go with the 60 Hertz 1440p now and wait for something with better backlighting and whatnot on that sort of end I mean personally i'd recommend these 34 inches to anyone incredible to see if 79 ones absolutely love a lot of fanboying it but it's worth a fanboy you know your eyes deserve better than white leds but if you know with the Nitro I just say go 60 Hertz 1440p now save your box wait till because you know look you're going to see the CF 791 it's going to get it's going to sell man it's going to sell really well and what that means is people are going to be saying look I want more for my money I want better backlighting they're going to be supporting Samsung other companies going to see this LG will start releasing a no LED ultra wide you know you're going to see LG do that now they're going to make the pushing it is like Samsung's again all the sales we're going to do something about it so this is what drives innovation and I'm going to support the company there's driving innovation at the moment Samsung's doing that you know Dell scrap their LED 4k monitor barely it had contrast shift issues or whatever so I researched apparently just had issues that were non they couldn't be fixed so yeah none the wiser just go with the cheap monitor there's the 200 bucks 200 us I on ebay at the moment for a 1440p 60 Hertz monitors go get one of them hold out the apocalypse the white LED apocalypse just wait it out I think it's a 50s it must be it'll still be pretty good though in terms of the quality i mean i can get where you're meaning about saving your eyes but in terms of the color quality and stuff like that i mean those IPS 1440p high refresh rate monitors so usually pretty good animals I've never run into a bad one I know I mean that they're good is like the predator on that big very good they're good but it's just after using this it's like it's a blast to the past for me I can remember the ccfl glory days like that's for me it just reminds me of using a ccfl monitor text is so sharp a colors of way better but you know of course you're going to have the guy with thee there's going to be the guy linking me to all these links you know TFT central now it's a central do a fantastic job but again machines and human eyes it's got to be a part where you say okay subjectively i love this monitor now my eyes are going to be different to your eyes but there's going to be a part where you're going to say look the machines can do all the talking they want they can give you all the factual results you want but at the end of the day yeah you the user have to make the decision if you have these two monitors side by side which would you like better and I just after using this thing I freaking love it you know it's a blast of the past I'd even like to see them bring back ccfl backlight on budget monitors I think that sell really well so yeah one might be so many we see in the future soon also i sent a similar thing 144 1440p yet 144 hurts gtx 1070 is it in oh yeah that should be fine you might depending on the type of game you're playing easier to play games such as yeah overwatch or something like that you'll be just yeah that'll be fine I higher-end Triple A titles and stuff you may need if you want to be taking advantage of that high refresh rate you may need to drop off the filters and a few things like that that will help it get up a bit higher hold you at that probably you'd want it to be at least averaging around 100 I got after you know a bit motherboards yes I've got an abit motherboard here i bought it in the junk bin um funny that hey I've got a shell got what I don't know what they're doing nowadays but yeah actually do know they did oh yeah I've got one in the in the bin Lakers I think it's old school like socket something 49 or something man i forgot my old school so yeah 939 that's the one yeah anyone tried days of war if you tried des wall no there you go now I haven't alright see ya we're topics arm I have an off-topic not hot question what do you think about as Roxxxy 97 extreme for motherboard not bad d string for is always going to be that sort of mediocre vrm decent for the money see 97 should be no different I actually forgot what exactly like what exactly what exactly MOSFETs they're putting exact exact MOSFETs are putting on that chokes and yep caps etc but yes usually where there's a the extreme for Fitz it's a pretty good balance I like it for the money yeah ok so we're winding up the questions guys if you've got any sort of last question for Brian are you on the overclocking Australia's forums ah I mean I've joined I've joined the overclock au forums I just I don't check it much I've just been so busy place is a goldmine for such cheap secondhand parts yeah true awesome um I mean I've got to check that out maybe four cpus I'd go check out the overclocking forums because you know post is just really cheap but like when it comes to getting bigger parts like especially like motherboards or graphics cards and stuff like that you really want to pick them up locally so gumtree yet easily be the best for that I mean you saw that if you didn't see that vlog video I did yet man I picked over 770 a 7950 and a 280x for like 280 Australian total for the three greatest cards so what's that like not even 200 us or something ridiculous man 3 really damn good graphics cards even till this date for like Ethel you know I mean incredible yes and they're all good condition I've got the 770 it's running right now and it's funny this 770 right here it's the reference model from EVGA but it's actually surprisingly really quiet like I thought it was only remember they had their founders their metal shroud even on the 780 and the 780 ti they had their whatever fancy model and then they had the dumb down models this yeah this is supposedly the Dom down model but it's actually really good like it's actually really damn quiet I was shocked how quiet that thing was on the 770 I was like why was expecting it to be a freaking aircraft but it's actually had it like it's actually really good so yeah yeah awesome so I'm a one question that was interesting this would be good for you Brian as well any bad selling experience with selling older parts any advice when selling well from my point of view I haven't done a lot of it so Brian will probably have better advice at me but yeah I was just always very truthful when I was selling old pc parts you know take very clear pictures tell the people yeah there was an old cpu i would tell them that it had been overclocked or anything i just try to be very truthful about it and i never had any problems with any of it at any point okay yeah um don't dare don't sell rubbish like you know if you sell rubbish should just bring it down the whole community really like yeah you know I've every time I do a build it's funny because like for me I don't know like I don't take pride in the cosmetics of a build but I do take pride in how the final product runs you know and I get a lot of questions on those years build like a lot of people will be messaging me gone dude you know you like your computer's your pcs running better than my I 749 447 90k and a GTX 980 and it's like yeah that's that's what I do like I tweaked the windows everything I make sure the overclocks are stable everything's running just you know perfecto and then I sell it that's that's how I do it so I make sure the things running really well and then I sell it make sure everything's smooth because the guy getting this I tell them to you know when I sell this I say look it's overclocked you might be fair using it in an even when i sell the computer i say look are you using this in an aircon environment are you using it in an on air con environments you know especially now in summer if he's if he's saying no I'm using it just no aircon I'll actually go in down clock the stuff for them like I'll go down clock it to safer levels because that's yeah so yeah you got to take pride in what yourself if you always take Brian what yourself people are going to recommend you to friend yeah okay so uh I bought from him and bass he's awesome I'm gonna buy from him again so yeah do yourself a favor and just take prime we sell if you can smell be truthful be honest if you guys so trash it's going to come back and bite you in the ass calmer yeah Holly Thomas come as a bitch count as a real thing it exists yeah and it exists for a reason it's just the act of being dodgy so don't be dodgy yeah take pride in what you sell my used bills they just like seriously they when I put them off a cell they sell in a few days like I do you know I'm surprised at how fast some of them sell and I'm like I'm making a decent profit sometimes so yeah that's just the used parts i love it i love doing the use parts except just can't do it all the time as i said in that vlog it's like you know I it's because I film the whole thing I have to edit the video and you know it takes ages to do those videos because I got a bench market install window like all the all the stuff you see on camera that takes so it takes a long time to do a video if I was just going on so much stuff goes on behind sings a like people don't understand how long it takes us to make videos is like about ten probably five percent of your time spent making a video is like filming then probably about twenty percent or thirty percent is editing and all the rest is just prep and testing really getting the right angle on the camera for me it's like probably about thirty percent of like I could if I if I was just not camera no camera no editing no filming I probably do everything three times faster basically I could have a building I could ever build ready to go in half a day likes ready to go get ready to build and sell but since i'm filming it making a video for you guys it's two days for up for a whole 68 just yeah talking on the camera filming it editing it posting it yes i move the camera stop filming and do something else move the camera yeah it takes it takes a lot of work guys so hope you appreciated though i hope you guys appreciate and you do I mean there's a so many people who appreciate it I think you guys so much for that but of course you get the one guys like I want more it's like man I'm only human brother I want I want more I want it now goddammit yeah no just you Sony's here didn't well I guess we're gonna get we're going to get out of here guys thanks for tuning in episode 12 of the tech lounge action we got a lot of live viewers thanks we got like a lot almost 300 really cool thanks for tuning in life guys think kevs audios fixed too and it's going to be fixed from now on because I know kids yeah we yeah it'sit's we knew was set up beforehand um because we had it checked so we knew everything was sweet so if it's going a bit funny on the stream then it must be something else going on because definitely I mind it was were standing is sounding a lot yeah was 100% set so if they're still having problems and it might just be something with the stream or the internet connection or yeah or something cause ending in the title in the title i'm going to put in caps Kev's audio fixed T so save save some characters as well so yeah okay right sure it's it's dad Pascal refresh not Maxwell refreshed I got a sidepiece hits don't explode are gonna be careful guys I'm sorry make these mistakes just like the H vs H where I well you know it's funny because they say in eastern South East Queensland especially it's all everyone says h HD alright guys we're gonna catch you next week live thanks for tuning in you guys are awesome check out the tech city forums check out tech city TV go check out kevs channel as well i'll put a link in the description and yeah guys thanks for all the support so far and i'm going to peace out Kev's going to peace out any closing statements gif no I just still love and doing the show thank you guys for watching it really good turn up to so is um that was really fun and look forward to seeing guys next week yep all right guys love y'all pcl catch you next week