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I've been you welcome back to the tech lounge episode 13 and I am joined by kev from tech showdown how you doing man don't good Brian I'm glad we got all this audio sorted hopefully now after all the trouble we've been having lately seems like we've got it all sorted though so that's good yeah so buddies of all having were having a lot of issues over the last I guess yeah last decade with gives audiosurf so we are he went and got he returned the blue Yeti and went and got a razor is it a razor siren / yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so yeah so good now so yeah and we've just been sending it up because we were having problems so I was aware of it and obviously you know I wasn't too happy about it yeah other words Brian so hopefully it's all sort of now yeah well I mean if people are tuning in free if people are going to tune in for an hour to watch a live show that they deserve a good audio especially even compared to a video you know it's like I'd rather have better audio than video even if you were on a potato camera I wouldn't care so much so yeah so yeah and I like what's been going on man the last week in a bit I'm not too much it I just been busy with a few other things but just getting through the videos who did the predator 17 laptop review and yeah that was quite interesting the gtx 1070 in it is just such a huge step up over the 970 m it gets about double the FPS even though they were running the same cpu this 6700 HQ so it's just crazy a like it's so good now with these new Pascal powered laptops they're just so powerful yeah now the gaming laptops are really coming into their own well they're making that a trend I think they want people to buy more laptops yeah yeah also the people in the chat no we're not competing with awesome hardware sorry I didn't actually um yeah we didn't mean to do any of that basically we just will go into a live stream on Monday but my internet was out in the area so there's a company called Telstra in Australia that they're renowned for being pretty bad and so the main then it was out on Sunday it was out on monday and kev had to disappear for a couple of days so this is the earliest time we got to do the show so unfortunately it does overlap but there's going to be an archive of course so yeah when won't hate you for going off and watching their show yeah let's go I've just I see you guys saying that I'm a bit quiet so I've just put up the volume by another Jenna seems well it's actually I mean that sound a bit better yeah well I mean I'd rather him sound quiet than clip so yes we've been having the clipping issue in the last few months but we did try we did check before the show to make sure that everything was going correctly so that we didn't start the show and me having problems but yeah so you leave that sounding a bit better now yeah you got to turn you up a little bit that's what people are saying too so yeah yeah so that's good so we turned you up we'll get you all sorted and that's what we're gonna get cracking so yeah in the last week as well we got the benchmark pc done just got the video out on the channel hope you guys enjoyed that me and my dad he's uh he's wanting to have jokes a lot more and that's the way that's the way his uh his life is about you know he was raised as he's a builder he's all about having a laugh all the time so you guys are when you know when he comes on the channel it's just you're going to be about shenanigans and laughing and that's definitely rubbed off on me that's worthy I guess that's where the yes part of the channel comes from the old man so that's a you can see I expect more of that coming on because he actually is like I want to come on videos Brian I want to come on your videos I alright let's do something so yeah we did the yes man's overclocking Chamber of Secrets that was that was real then we got the benchmark pc so benchmark pieces here I had this yeah the the 280x man it's like people like chuck it in the oven I probably will try that I've tried it on two different rigs already so it's just you has the same exhibit improb llam on another pc as it is on that one so it can't be the motherboard or anything like that or the palace by or anything like that so yeah that card I got host see that's what people since what I'm saying about use price it's not for everyone you know imagine if that was like you're on a budget this is then imagine if you're on a budget and that was your only like you know I mean 110 dollars out of a watt 300 all the budget and you got hosed you know so that's why you can understand people buying new parts so exactly yeah so we're going to make it Snoop Dogg edition that's here that's are the same yeah I'm like that we're gonna smoke it up yeah so yeah any new hardware coming it now obviously the new Mike but anything else for me yeah i just picked up two things from play tic so give you guys a sneak peek so going to be testing out this guy since this is the G 533 from Logitech so compare headphones and one a lot of people be excited for is the ducky shine 6 so this I'll be doing our very soon also and this will be there I've done every single ducky shine now yeah well since i started the channel so pretty crazy great keyboards absolutely love them let's see if the shine sixes but they would watch airy what Jerry switches do they have ah I believe I've got it with blues which are my favorite but yeah I think you can get them with browns and reds I believe potentially blacks but I'm not one hundred percent yeah well that I need to I think you're gonna I think you they see a lot more people wanting to source top race switches on their keyboards now because they're unbelievable I mean they're coming into effect their real you know their real real force they're just such a good switch so i hope to see something like that hitting the channel very soon on maybe a different company other than a top r a keyboard so home for one of those keyboards and yeah other than that we still got to get through that backlog it's just been ridiculously hot like even now it's 30 degrees you know that's how bad it is in here 30 degrees I've got these blinds just like the wind's coming in so it is a little bit cool but the blinds are just like yeah like this is going to be the worst year for terms of weather and stuff other than that the next place I move into it's going to have aircon going to make sure it's all good and people can get the best content so it's just coming back from Japan you know a bit of a bad situation that I was in getting set up through the summer is obviously the hardest time so especially for tech actually mad men are all like managing your carrel sus now so that's good and I saw your addy LED video given that was that got a lot of views man people really liked watching that video is very interesting well thing about that is is that it's very hot right so it's extremely hot where I'm at the moment so when I get the results that I get it's pretty much guaranteed for anyone else in the world you know you're going to get results by deer letting a chip and thing is you're going to get them when you reach the max end of the chip like for me it was you i went from 4.9 to 5.1 stable that's 200 megahertz game that's pretty damn freaking good now in winter i'm sure i could have maybe got five gigahertz without a deal it because it would have cooled down 15 degrees or whatever but this in the summer you know that's when you're going to test the you know the extreme levels and so i'm getting what max 80 degrees in summer now on 5.1 gigahertz at 1.39 51.4 volt it's really damn good it's stable as well doesn't doesn't cut out doesn't drop out I just benchmarked all those games at five point one gig arts in that benchmark video that took me out as well figuring out what was wrong with this graphics card I mean is just problems after problems but that's one thing that is a that you can solve I just recommend getting a proper kit get a deal it kid make sure you do it properly because that PCB is so freaking thin on there like I would I would dare say it see I don't even know could it even get any thinner than skylake have they even used a bit of a cheaper material on the PCB I don't know but I wouldn't I don't believe so yeah but yeah but when I when I deleted that thing you know the Haswell I remember dear letting the house wall chips and they got a bit of weight to them like the PCB has a little bit of weight this time around the cabbie late you did those things you like wow it's freaking like a feather like that's how much it weighs a feather so that's how cheap the PCBs got and then the thermal pace was bad too so I do because they got it apparently they got it right apparently they got a ride in the house will refresh a bit then they went back to using cheap thermal paste again night st. computing with me yeah something's not right here so yeah d letting that thing I highly recommend it for anyone who's even remotely serious about getting the most out of their CPU whether it be air cooling or water cooling if you're running 24 70 stable over clocks on cabby lake then you want to deal with that thing because you want to get more speeds you want to get more stable temperatures out of the CPU the only way you're going to do this to delete it of course there are risks associated with it but the tool is really going to take out the risk now another thing about there was someone sent me a forum about some guy using the same 3d printed tool that I used and like he put the thing on the wrong way and busted the back of the caps off the cpu I'm just so I think the resistance like I saw that when i was when i was with the tool initially i saw that with the tool i'm like no you don't you're not going to bang that because it's going to bust the freaking resistors off like I was like I mean the guy must have been tired or something i'll give him the benefit of the doubt but i mean a fee like look dear you must have just missed that'll solve it if you looked at that and you're like okay this is going to work then you resist this come flying off then and then he sold it back on it was like he said it works like I really doubt that that would still be working I could you have you seen the threat i should have pleaded of it it was just love it was it was it was bad like i mean if he got that thing to work again and legit like he deserves a medal because yeah I just it's just sad that we're back here like after Devil's Canyon mmm everyone was like oh thank god you know cuz Haswell rain so hot and i recommend do Devil's Canyon came out there like all that fixed it and then now it's just like Intel why you fix this problem before and now going back to it again yeah just it's just so self-defeating it seems well it's I mean do they care about the desktop market that's it the other day do they care they've got to know that we're all social elite is closed I know an advice you sure does care yeah but I mean like everyone's so wired in nowadays got all these forums you got communities you got YouTube you've got Twitter yeah facebook I mean if there's a problem people are going to know like pretty much within a day or two days so yeah what what do they thinking they going to get away with it I don't know so yeah that was here that was so that's really the big news is the deal it'd so we got that done huh we got some topics up here do we want to move into the first topic here so aren't speaking of Intel they are reading apparently a i777 40k and an i 576 40k now to tackle rise and shit I don't understand this article because apparently it's going to tackle rise and chips yet it's on the x 2 99 platform which I mean arguably a motherboard on that platform is going to cost a heap of money so yeah so it's you know this is what's strange yeah the fact that it's going to be LGA 2066 yep okay and basically the only main difference it's the same architecture there's no change there it's just they're going to have the high TTP in higher clock speeds and the clock speeds aren't going to be dramatically higher from what it looks like it's just going to be a bump up um but you know obviously it's they don't know yet what how far the bump up will be but yes so they're supposed to debut alongside this guy like X processes which a lot of people actually have been looking forward to on the X 2 99 platform yeah but this just I don't know what Intel syncing with this maybe they're thinking I don't know maybe it's X 2 99 is that big of a jump up maybe people will go up to it even if they're running one of these I'll say lower and CPUs they'll jump up just for the platform upgrade but we've already had Wendell on the show he's basically said like for a gamer dual channel memory is all you need like what channel memory is useless for anyone gaming at evens hour they even remote you know people with work stations and stuff you said what's the point of quad channel memory i mean the ex jeff sure there's extra pcie lanes that from the chipset you're gonna gather those but i'm trying to see the v appeal here oh hey we saw we sold it on we sold it a lot but yeah on that note on that note of soul during the chip to the die I would dare say one thing to come out of deleting is that even verse soul during if you apply that liquid / or whatever the metal paste you're using if you apply that evenly and properly I would dare say that it actually beats a soldering job too so actually asked around about people d letting sold it on yep ah some people doing isn't yeah and apparently it is not widely done but it is done what they do is they will just overheat the CPU basically they'll let it run it like 90 degrees for a just 95 degrees 99 degrees for a while take it straight out of the rig and then delete it well it's screw you hot like that and you can I'm not endorsing this by any means but it seems that it is doable but yeah for the vast majority you guys I would not oh yeah all the risks the risks are far far greater so yeah at the same time you do get a stronger PCB you do get a stronger PCB there so at least when you go full-on Berserker mode hammering the thing off and whatever you know can get these new CPUs it's just Intel right now seems like they're trying to flood the market because rumor this is what we spoke about a few weeks ago with the Pentiums overlapping now with the i3 and it being kind of confusing for a lot of people out there that you have some of these Pentiums and I threes being very similar to each other in some ways yeah um and it seems like Intel's also going to be overlapping on the top end as well with these guys with these kb like x ones so it just seems like they're trying to flood the market we will speak later in this episode about risings full lineup and risin does have a big lineup so gets huge there for you guys out there if you're in the market for a cpu or you're going to be in the market in the next few months receive you definitely going to have the biggest abundance of choice that I've ever seen and all the time I've been I don't think at any point we've ever had this many I'll put new CPUs coming out consumer consumer grade yet consumer grade CPUs yeah consumer web yeah it's crazy there's going to be so much choice at the mid-tier the lower tier and all the way up top as well it's just going to be crazy so yeah for you guys out there I mean that's a very good thing for you guys because that's gonna they're going to be fighting with each other oh I'm so freaking amazing man there's gonna be so much fist pumping going on this gonna be so much comparison she's gonna sit it's gonna be real good what's this just may go for the consumer it's gonna be good for us guys making content this shouldn't be so many more question in him he could be a hell of a time don't mean thanks heaps to do Seth had characters who kept just got his new mic to give you those comparisons with a lot better audio now yeah snap yeah I said we got the other next articles oh I'm pretty much done with that I mean I'm I'm not going to be and I think I could see myself recommending it either of these cpus if they come down so yeah late late last month AMD so empty filed a lawsuit against three different companies here so LG MediaTek's signal wait for companies sigma designs and visio so they filed a for different companies apparently on patent infringement for their GPU technology so this is actually a very detailed article but the gist of it is is that AMD samsung's currently paying them the licensing fee these guys aren't and that's not fair man i mean yeah you got a bit that's what this is the world we live in right they've got the IP they've paid for the peyton they had the idea of they've made the architecture in ways it's fair like if they are infringing on their patent and you can't do it you know like and you get into any sort of idea someone's made that idea you have to license it you have to pay for it you can't just yeah copy it yeah you're exactly right some people are calling this aim debate being a payment role but i don't really see it in this regard people tend to throw on that term and you know when it doesn't actually apply and I don't think this is a case where it really applies it's a pretty cut-and-dry thing it's sophisticated are potentially you know the average person I have no idea when it gets down to the core of an architecture how to design one of those things I mean this is severe you know extremely sophisticated tech and knowledge and yeah you put an IP on that instead of someone just taking years and years of work I mean it's different when we look at the shape of a phone for example I think that's a completely different thing someone in preschool can design a shape of a phone i don't think that you know for instance i thought that was a stupid IP the shape of the phone there's something that apparently samsung was copying apple for the sheep or something z I think Peyton's like that I understand that's stupid and I see an apple as being a shocker for the pain and trolling they are yeah they do troll sometimes with that stuff and that's it doesn't yeah that's where a legit patent troll comes into question this side it's on the other hand it looks like it's got legit grounds so be interesting to see how this turns out and yeah if Samsung I indeed paying the piper then other company should be paying the piper too because you know that comes that floats through into the final products price right so yeah I mean this is always going to happen i think eli mustard at best is like filing a patent is like getting a lottery ticket to a lawsuit yeah you know this is just the amount of times over the years and the news that you've read about different tech companies going at each other dover patent infringement for some legitimate and others not in many cases that was Apple Bing you know trolling with it but it's did this stuff will never end this and it's only going to get worse in the future um you can count on that there's going to be more and more or less oh yeah you can count on the guys you can count on it gets worse and worse apparently there's more and more fart pains being filed every year too so yeah it is going to get worse so let's move on to a risin risin CPUs apparently we have a bigger manifesto here with more of the model numbers the skus the details the deets everyone wants the D low on the deets and straight away there's two that interest me here is true that interests me here the rise in our five 1500 and the risin are five pro 1500 so the both six cores 12 threads are just going to highlight it that there's the there are the ones that interests me is apparently these CPUs are overclockable they're all overclockable lambda has said they're not going to lock the CPU side of things but they will lock possibly the model bullet side of things with the a320 chipset but with the was at the be 350 that's going to be my pick for the motherboard and coupled with the six core 12 threat I really see this hitting hard if this six core 12 thread you know the entry level 6 core 12th is overclockable and the price is pretty good so apparently it's going to compete with an i5 7500 so you could expect it around two hundred and something dollars which is fantastic I can't wait to get my hands on something like this there's a fork or four threads as well which i think is a lot of people are interested in as well to rise in our 3 1200 x or even the r3 pro 1100 the entry level with the be 350 mother what I think there's a two CPUs that people are really getting excited about of course the fourth read four cores eight threads it's still up in the air on how AMD's hyper-threading solution their competitor will perform in the real world I think a lot of people want to see that yeah the artist a right ya know for sure and it that the fact that before the show we were doing about that there's no jus course jaan quad-core minimum you know there's the four core four threads yeah which i think is a fair minimum honestly now nowadays that should be the minimum by now that should be the minimum and hopefully that's coming in at a very competitive price they're little are three pro 1,100 so yeah that's very good obviously the fork or eight threads will be better or insert and use case scenarios but I think and brains right here the most interesting one for a lot of people is the six core 12 thread being that those ones are looking to really take on the i5s and that that part of the market is usually I I would think is quite strong probably the strongest and the i5s so could because of their price point they're coming at and everything else I may not be correct there but I do know that's a big one for a lot of people if this is a lot of people don't need the ice events and a lot of people want something a bit more grunty than an i3 so they settle on the 05 and if that's what they're going after and it turns out it is very good at going after it the year these six cores are going to sell it crazy yeah well that's me if his six scores 12 threads and the RPC is good then this thing could potentially be to 7700 key to so yeah it's coming in the hundred dollars something cheaper and you've got more performance and what's there not to like about that may keep in mind though a 7700 k for example the 1i on the benchmark rig I mean nothing's scoring over 1100 cinebench that is a pretty damn tough score for a fork or a threaded CPU so you know that when people want that single core perform performance I mean I don't see that getting challenged too much when people want the absolute best single core single thread performance still remains to be seen of course but still I think the majority of gamers are going to take this up especially the guys buying out our x 47 is buying rs4 80s GTX 10 70s even that real core group of value orientated gamers is really going to take up the six quarts well thread and a be 350 and yay and can even go like even if you guys are definitely jumping on rising if you like look I'm sold go pick up a cheap piece you know you sound cards are going to support pcie I brain I'd much rather run a PCIe not pcie sorry pci sound card over pcie so they're more stable they better go get a DG not the dgx go buy them up cheap now before the be 350 hits the shelves so if you just if you're sold on rise and already get yourself a sound card for it start with the DG xonar DG exactly exactly right I think the first video I will be making just so you guys know now this is dependent on what I can get my hands on and I have already made inquiries to be able to get my hands on them will be the flagship the r7 1800 x and i'll be doing a showdown against my 6900 case that'll be the 28 course rison a core broadwell e8 who are going up against each other and obviously we will be doing productivity and scheming mostly productivity because they're kind of meant for that more so than gaming I would say and I think that would be very interesting but it'll just depend what I can get my hands on but that I flew my first video what do you think Brian which rise in CPU do you think you just outfit for me it it honestly it doesn't matter i'm looking at the the ibc that's what I'm and how well the hyper threading your forms so as long as i get a hyper threaded cpu I don't really care because it's going to scale like yeah when you're talking about the max theoretical performance of CPU you get a fork or a thread if it's performing such and such then at a program that supports all those threads the eight-core 16 is going to perform pretty much double so it's yet it's up to really I don't care what I get my hands on as long as I get my hands on that with the hype 3 i'd like to test the hyper threading out to see how well it performs I mean what they call them they're hyper-threading technology anyway uh well hyper threading is Intel's name but I said most people will understand what you mean yeah am threat we just call it a 80 advanced threat well it's just yeah it's just well you know hei yeah yeah advanced threading intuitive yeah it is yeah you're exactly right with scaling obviously seeing IPC will be interesting for sure but the sheer power of having more cause and more threads is always going to be good not so much for a gaming home there are specific games obviously that utilize the CPU multithreading heavily but mainly for productivity stuff and that's why I'm very interested in the higher end one yeah because yeah if it's going up against the 6900 k that like what I run which is a nearly 2,000 new zealand dollar cpu i think they're they dropped a little bit but they're still about eighteen hundred dollars here and if it's doing that for say a thousand dollars new zealand's that's going to undercut it big time even if it is just a little bit slower I mean is it really gonna yeah they're going to justify spinning all that extra money on the 6900 k when you can get these ones and depending on the overclocking which we've heard that that flagship will get over 4 gigahertz which should bring it quite competitive because a sexy 900 k will you can get them to 4.3 but boy after that they're just impossible to get any higher mine will yes it's to it yet me too 3 be early but you know they do not good overclockers broadwell e no one who's bought broad well II was like buying it for the overclocking potential because they know they're bad man 50 a 20k was better to and then you virtually the same because you get the the IPC pretty much you gain you lose in the overclocks on average so it's pretty sad to see that yeah broadly wasn't good at all yeah i like i love the 58 20k that was like bc it still is the CBU to keep it's an awesome cpu but yet you know risin coming out people want to see the IPC they want to see the thread counts i want to see how the hyper 30 performs that's going to be hitting the channel for sure I can't wait to get that and then from there we can base you know how been for there you can logically say how well the price is going to perform for the money was going to be so can't wait to do that you know but i'm looking at i'm really lying out this six score 12 threat it's looking like it's going to be the be-all and end-all of 2017 so then we've got to leech benchmark here from wccftech and it's kind of one of those things that I really I don't understand like while this someone leaked a benchmark and it's like crazy 4k and you're looking at the CPU framerate 74k crazy again why are we testing 4k settings it's completely it's just yeah like it's it's more than a tease that's just dumb you know I've got here a 47 90 k which is for co a thread and old as that scoring 63 and a half so what do they wanted Evers AMD fanboys posted up the wrong benchmark because if anything this just if we were to base it just off this bench market the 40 a core 1216 threat would be terrible you know just based off this benchmark here so now all those settings one hundred percent the same though and I mean they're not i'm in there sure that wouldn't be but still is it's just the dumb benchmark to be throwing our numbers with y SI porque creation this is 00 yeah Hey look listen one I mean yeah it's like basically saying hey look what that tight next can do okay you know probably do that when we know the timings yeah it's going to be the 10 ATT I will be the same power yeah yeah that'll that's what can do i think i just think this is just I don't know don't I have anything to make of this what do I mean you made might be able to take away their saying that it's going to be going up to full gigahertz on all-cause 0 again that's good if that's the max then a 69 head okay we'll beat it slightly which is kind of unbelievable to see that the 6900 actually will beat something and overclocking because it's pathetic overclocker to begin with yeah yeah I understand it is I mean yeah I'm not I'm not being too hard on the 69er okay because i love the cpu and it's super powerful this thing does not muck around and compared to its base its default speeds that is quite good but now that we're in the era of 5 gigahertz yeah it's more what I meaning I'm not picking on it I'm just saying like completely I mean 4.52 yeah 4.5 4.6 so 4.5 4.6 enough it is a little bit on the low side but of course it's not made for the high clock speed I am well aware that it's you know they're made for productivity as long as it does as long as these cds are hitting 4 gigahertz though i think there's at least you know that that'll be here oh it was still think powerful yeah majority of game balls hurt some 16 threads yeah so that's nice but yeah I told kev was gonna pull this article up he said he wasn't a so we move on now to Final Fantasy 15 so you guys can get your questions ready to we will be answering them about 10 maybe whatever 10 minutes we got some questions from the forms as well the final photos 15 kept just completely shut down he doesn't play any final fantasy and I was like what's up man I never blade 157 so played it never played final fantasy 7 no I'm quite funny when it comes to games only so a quite specific tastes i don't i'm basically stick to hip PS mostly but um no it's just nothing that's really interested me how to be perfectly honest what what did you make of this article anyways I so basically you know it's a Final Fantasy 15 this is it's selling so well that they broke even for all their rd and money put into the game in like the first day apparently so it's a huge success and this doesn't even hit pc yet and that was only the first day so bezel is doing so well you can expect final fantasy 16 to come out i'm sure based on these numbers and figures great no real world where no real word official word when it's hitting the pc yet which is i'm sure a lot of people are looking for so i mean what i spoke to the people at pax they were like yeah it's going to hit the pc like a couple of months later like but then they delayed the console release so now it's words up in here wednesdays hitting the pc so it must be some bugs and again this is one of those things where I would rather than release a game that's complete then an optimized piece of trash so yes I agree taking take as much yet yeah take as much time as you need because I'd rather buy a Polish game than a piece of shit so that's just you know how many times especially in 2016 we got so many games it just came out people like oh god this is bad yeah was it that mafia mafia three or something that was whatever it was that was like one of the worst you know I'm kind of like a build a new gaming PC I can play this thing mang is this is just my pc yeah now just the game don't worry it's just the game yeah yeah that yeah it says going to hit the pc hopefully hopefully doesn't get canceled I mean plays his website down because it's being bad we got a arc now a och moving on to our 21 by nine monitor they going ultra wide 35 inch and finally they're doing a 200 Hertz so these are there is one downside to that and that is a 1080 high in at the 1080p widescreen resolution on that as opposed to the 1440p widescreen so what would you rather would you rather the higher refresh rate lower resolution or the lower refresh rate higher resolution that's what is actually my my like sick like one of my most popular videos ever made was just me talking about what I prefer high resolution or higher refresh rate and I said high resolution because um I need it for my video editing and other things it makes my life a lot easier so yes I was just thinking that is it pronounced a UH core I always said I OC I was pronounced elk I mean that's what when I bought this node people and yeah I mean yeah when we go too late to the computer stores and stuff everyone just says a arc like everyone just says it that way like went around the coast or Brisbane I mean look might be just a cultural thing again these are just things that develop locally and then someone tries to correct you and you like who gives a shit like no I'm just no I'm just curious are you guys in chat can you tell us some where you live do you pronounce it aoc or a our core I just pronounce a oak hello it's ale you photos hey hey give it to me give it to me in the comments cuz I och yeah this is that the one thing I'll say a RC in the past I've tested on their value for money has always been extremely good usually get a hell of a monitor for your money and this is looking pretty good so 200 Hertz refresh rate with adaptive sink that's going to be really good I'd say this is going to appeal to a lot of people out there now you might knock it for being 1080 but obviously you're going to want the high frame rate to take advantage of the refresh rate there so that's what I think is the reason behind it you're definitely going to want something like a 1070 with this monitor anyway just so you get those high frames it's going to be a tough sell I'm going to say I kind of straight away say it's going to be tough sell especially with the response number four milliseconds versus one like at 200 Hertz it's going to be a tough sell for this thing I mean I me personally I'd rather a hundred Hertz 14w no not double the resolution but 1440p version for me that would be the you know i'm using it now i absolutely love it if I lower the resolution on this thing I'd be hating it so even if you've got high refresh rates I mean 60 Hertz versus 120 Hertz kind of like a different argument but going from 100 to 200 damn you can have some good eyes to see the difference like or appreciate the difference and then at the cost of a lower resolution so let me know let me know in the comments what you guys would rather would you rather the hundred Hertz 1440 version 40 40 p version or the 200 Hertz 1080p version I mean first day i love that hundred Hertz I think it's just a sweet spot for ultra whites cutie LED baby oh yeah let me go on oh yeah oh damn I say that's the a-ok or quantity yeah I've got here good news for the GPU market microns new GT da 6 memory will release later this year so we've got speeds reported of 16 gigabits per second twice as fast the state of gddr5 memory twice two times yeah times okay so we got two times got double there so you're doubling up hopefully it's comes in cheaper I mean initially it probably won't but hopefully over time it comes in cheaper and this will be a perfect solution for the mid-range graphics cards i think you know like your 1070 your for 8470 even your 1060 this is where it's going to be really hitting hard because we will see hbm to hitting those bigger cards definitely and that'll be a big selling point for those bigger cards i'm sure for the midranges is really going to where it's going to hit hard even maybe a higher-end card good shit could for sure utilize this stuff yeah so I be interesting to see how they do you would you would say so so I mean this is because we know that gddr5 X has in theory has the potential to go up to 16 gigabits per second anyways but we didn't see that obviously with the GTX 1080 it was set at ten so if this GD GD are six is a 16 straight off the bat and then I'm just thinking as a potential it's going to be 16 so it's back then that's a good jump up there especially people coming from a GPU with gddr5 that is a very big jump up there and GPU memory speeds matter a lot and through my testing it's a very important thing that's often actually quite overlooked by quite a few people but it wasn't it wasn't such a big Giles pretty disappointed in 5x because it wasn't that big of a job where you have 25 27 seeds 25% they're already dream up yeah it was a step up for sure but it wasn't a leak like going from gddr5 to say hbm you know I mean people fan Boyd the shit out of 5 X like it God fan Boyd it's go 5 X on yeah and that's a selling point for the 10 80s like huh they twenty-five percent faster memory doesn't even make a difference really well it doesn't make a difference a big difference bit like frame times if you were to underclock you might actually that's a good benchmark underclocking your ten eighties memory down to the slow speeds and then just doing a frame comparison out of the box because I mean they quite pretty high you don't get much overclocks out of them like they clock on their own they boost up to like two gigahertz so that'd be a really cool comparison like down clocking the 5x memory to like five speeds and then comparing the two and seeing how much of a difference it makes did we just did we all get conned by marketing did we talk did we get done yes sir yeah did you get done out of your heart and kev did you know i like my 1080 it's a great crowd we want our we want answers dammit and we want them now so all's you got to do what you got to do our proposition this I'll make a proposition for you just send me over your turn 80 and I'll do the testing yeah okay if you say so yeah um I just saw this reading it i'll do the test for anyone to send me over 1080 i'll do the test for any on yeah yeah i was just that it's interesting in the are you watching the stream bro yeah what's up um can you see on my webcam i just restarted it there's a dead pixel on my cam or something okay we'll work it out we'll work it out things in summer anything can happen I just I don't even know how that's possible on a string to ever well gee it happens man it happens Deb Kev's got a dead pixel welcome to the dead pixel family keV I've got a dead webcam I think like I dropped it and it's like got this massive crack like I think it's got like a dead sector so yeah yeah the next day the next day gd-r gd-r 6 looking forward to it of course faster speeds as long as we're not getting capped as long as I wallets aren't getting we fix it now yeah well as long as I as long as I wallets aren't getting murdered then bring it on I we got here now this is pretty funny we got fallout for the hi-res texture pack now for the people out there because i'm streaming at low bit rates you're probably not going to see the difference but this one i will drop a link in the description below it is pretty like I just it's as if someone's just instead of making it a HD texture packets as if someone's just gone through with some sharpening filter and like just said okay we're going to just sharpen things up a little bit because I noticed a minuscule amount of extra sharpening and that's it I you know I've got a sharpening filter on my freakin monitor I can just turn the sharpening up on my monitor if I want this shit like it says fifty eight gigabytes or something like that at the end of days is not even worth it so this there's just so many examples here where they just comparing them side by side and like I'm just looking at I'm like huh like what it what is the different what am I looking at here yeah I mean it's they sing it's fifty eight gigs big so it can't just be sharpening know this means it's sharpening my fifty eight gigs worth of shot me man I just yes this is a shop in package it's a hectic texture pack I mean they should have put the saturation have done some with the saturation to like you know put in an s-curve oh now it's got HD are doing the HDR checking HDR superset supersize texture pack with some photoshop filters supply it is it is quite i am just I'm not noticing through the pictures you yeah it's very subtle isn't but for me it just looks like yet again they just up some sharpening so I'm telling I got that filter on my monitor so yeah let me know what you guys think of it in the comment section below have you pixel peep this I mean I might get onto pixel beeping it but again it just doesn't really warrant a download or a recommendation as of yet I mean if the guy did put a lot of work into it yeah I shouldn't be saying negative things maybe probably put a lot of work into that not sure a lot of people appreciate that but I mean but when you start a project don't you sort of do a little bit and then get some feedback right you know what I mean yeah like I get what you're saying yeah like to just do like one little bit of the section and say hey what do you think somebody I would have said hey I don't notice much of a difference main so now that's fair yeah you're exactly right here you would just do it Beth and then see how it goes and then go from there but yeah I mean maybe yeah maybe these are just bad examples maybe maybe something better yeah on to sue my gaming is that I'm sort of really careful so pillars of eternity too if you guys haven't played pillars of eternity one it's kind of like the I guess the next line up of games in that boulders gate to sort of feel and play for a game like that sort of the city and sort of turn-based I love it absolutely love it so they've got pillars of eternity to is reached the funding goals in less than 24 hours so people must have loved it they love that style of gameplay they're going to be taking number two now which is awesome so really can't wait for that that's pretty cool and if you played pillars of eternity or no no I my god it also doesn't maybe seen so much well it brings back those elements that a lot of games have seemed to just ignore or take away like take for example water Warcraft when that first came out it had so much customization you were just you would go to work or whatever on your lunch breaks or you just be planning out your character you'd be reading up builds you'd be reading up how to be the best cookie cutter power and whatever it was it brought excitement into the game that's what it did and then they just dumped everything down because people bitched about oh this guy's got this build and I don't know like oh my god like I really don't get it like you just taken that element a way that made video games fun it made them yeah different you know like if I want to dumb down sports I just freakin go out and play rugby league or whatever you know ah no bit like you get into this stuff to just use your brain that's it you're all you're doing with video games a lot of time you're using your brain and why dumb that down why dumb down things that require you to use your brain okay a little bit of a rant but I like we basically bills of eternity they're not taking that away they're bringing that back I bring about the customization they're bringing back that's that goodness that was in the original games and so you need to actually think about how you're going to plan out your character how you're going to plan out your build what not it's awesome stuff so much like heroes in by like heroes mind-magic I'm a big fan of that franchise so you know that you plan out your battlefield you plan out your turns and your moves and stuff like that it requires thinking so good stuff so that'll hit the that'll hit the gaming scene soon enough be maybe not soon enough it's obviously to make a whole new game so that's going to take a while but guys get your questions ready I am going to head over to the forums where some people ask some questions so if you want to go ask questions guys head over to taxi DTV / forum sign up there's a few can't get your questions in on the live stream then you can certainly chuck them in on the form and we'll answer them at the end of the show and there was yes there's a new episode coming now that's the last question there so is there a new episode today yesterday not one day because internet broke busted out then we got the first question here he's a day vb thanks for the question he's got a wood annex 5650 bottleneck something like a 980 or any card around that price point of 200 pounds like I think he's thinking of iris 470 as well ours for 80 or should he wait for Vega and the 5650 that's the Xeon nalem lineup of CPUs fantastic CPU I mean especially you didn't say whose overclocking it but if you're overclocking that thing especially over 4 gigahertz it's going to be absolutely fine with a 980 RX for a TRX 470 fantastic cpu for the money I absolutely love it one of my favorite CPUs that thing's going to handle those cards even a GTX 1070 at high you know 1440p you're not going to experience any problems really good really good see for you obviously you want the best performance you can have to pay you know 7700 cade max overclocks if you got really high refresh rates but awesome cpu and then he said we should get enterprise this is interesting we should get windows at 10 enterprise for the benchmark rigs apparently it gets rid of all the awful apps bundled with it have you heard of that curve yeah I mean at the moment I'm optimizing the wind 10 optimizing wind 10 taking away all the crap and it does make a little bit of a difference so that's good news but yeah that's a good question so we've got here extreme cookie he has an e 526 70 and 70 80 s Li should he go for a 3930k 4930 k or a used fury and nano x personally the eve the e 526 70s should be good i mean if you're just using one I'd probably change the GPU set up because the 70 80 sl7 adsl is going to be terrible in a lot of situations so I probably pick up a fury yeah I'd pick up a fury I mean Curie it would be just fine yeah that would be good yeah i think the mm yeah you're right yeah the fury would be just fine they you could get the fury x but honestly those air-cooled Furies are still great cards and you probably get it for a lot cheaper so they'd probably the ticket yeah we got here why is no one buying HD 5970 s on budget builds like I said we actually read this from just before live stream was like isn't that the dual based card the dual GPU on one card legacy two GPUs don't you know it's like it's gone now driver supports completely gone and then you got to GP used to deal with so I'd have weed it personally Ozzy talks hardware actually did a bilberry used old legacy SLA it was that's a lie wasn't crossfire cards but yeah just did perform terribly so he's sort of like maybe that's video serves as an example of maybe not to go with legacy cards in dual GPU config so also this is where green hand goes in Sydney okay green hand gaming goes to a you web weibo.com again I met with him at Christmas we actually met up in real life he's really cool i really get along Lyrian am he's really awesome we did have enough time to shoot you think but we did talk about things so when we do if we do a collab of the future it's yeah definitely going to be awesome for you guys we want to make it sorts green him he's got Tim suitably he's got a very high sort of it's got this what would you call it like he just every video he makes he wants it to be perfection and if it's not then a high standard yeah he's got really hot and it's really good thing that's why he's channels got somebody subscribes that's why every video he makes has so many views she's got such a high standard and it's really good I admire that hey I really do some of my videos like coming out like oh god I should have done that so yeah let's move on to the questions now for you guys okay so we've got Ashley it's going off in the chain here so I've sort of my face is going to be turned this way when I'm reading a question but I care of you picked up any questions you want just another one on the forum post up the top the that was quite interesting that guy's a 7950 had a busted killer it looks like he's cable tight the sum looks like 120 mill case fans and onto the cooler oh yes ink oh that's boss's man yeah so he said uh what should I go with watch what card should I get to go with the ex 5650 um yeah I mean if you're going from a 7950 i would say any of the like a 1060 would be a good upgrade for sure RX for ID as well yeah you're even a few I mean Furies going to achieve here I'm yeah speaking more if you wanted to go brand new but you if you wanted to go something second hand and a fury would be a good upgrade or GTX 1089 80 would be quite good also so yeah here quite a bit of choice there but yeah that's very it's quite interesting to see ya so God asked the question when's Juna chrome that's common that's comments comments come it's coming yeah it's not as it's getting resurrected as coming we're actually trying to look into doing something really special like getting the case fitted with you know custom decals and all that so and do build featuring an RX for 60 interesting i was going to do a video where i did want to do a bill but also wanted to unlock it and see how much extra performance you get from unlocking it so because apparently i have one of the models that can be unlocked so if UD lid the 7700 k next question do you lose your warranty yes you would lose you lose your warranty arm yeah yeah this is mine was a review samples there's no warranty per se anyway I've actually got to ship it back I think I'm going to get into contact just here's a cpu backer but it came it came pre-bent like i said on twitter i was replying Linus finally got one he had to showed a picture of a bent CPU I got one that was pre-bent like the corners all the four corners were bent like someone who ever tested it at their headquarters you know put too much pressure on and that's you know this is the PCB so thin you put a bit of extra pressure on the even the pins like those pins on the model boards they're so weak even the pins are out strength and all they've got more strength than the PCB on the freaking on the cpu which is pretty pathetic so because you know cpu still worked after I bent it back so it's pretty pretty shocked day but yeah you will lose your warranty on your D lid yeah delusion guarantee yeah so so with 16 gigs of ram in a gtx 950 and a I 360 100 be good for gaming it would be okay you don't don't really need sixteen dollars to rent a 16 year yeah if you especially if you're putting money into that over like a 960 versus a 950 yeah just ate will do and try get the bitter that CPUs just fine on but yeah maybe try get a slightly bitter GPU if you can but keep in mind keep in mind though 16 will become the net the new norm like you know it will yeah it's certainly well I meaning but for right now you know if you want to be super future proof than yet go with 16 but if you're doing a budget bill then that's probably not the what you're looking at so yeah something like that would be fine the okay we're going in a bit have either of you had any problems with an i5 2400 and GTA 5 stuttering steve from gamers nexus was talking about okay uh i tried an i3 550 which would be a weakest cpu than a 95 2,400 now I did get stuttering when I had four gigabytes of RAM I put in an extra four gigabytes and there was no longer any stuttering so how much memory are using what sort of background apps have you got open look into optimization saw that out that I'd be what kind of stuttering we're talking about we're talking about very sort of OCD micro stutter or sumum clearly noticeable stutter that would be the question to look out there of course you do get some weird things going on with different motherboards and you know maybe you have to update the microcode on the bias update that's something to look at to a few different things I have to look into it more but again time it all takes time really takes down yeah so one question was quite interesting three gig 1060 or four gig Eric's Freddie's that's a that is about the question of the century right now because everybody's debating that if it was me personally given how much how good the AMD drivers have been in terms of improvements I would probably go for the RX 480 I would feel personally I would feel like that would be the better what's this for my sis I'm sorry what's this one if you had to pick out of a three gig GTX 1060 or a four gig Eric's already I picked the four gig now after doing those tests with the 7950 versus the two gigabyte 77 well it's mainly because of that extra gear by the vram to be honest that's actually a huge factor like every three gigabytes is fine at the moment though what in another you you're buying a 1060 you want it to last for probably two three years right so two years i'm pretty sure we're going to see that three here but it's mainly not being enough for high settings or me even medium settings in some games which is sad because that Dishonored 2 for example i don't know if you saw in the benchmark pc video but that was starter in like that was it was insanely bad and the 7 950 breeze through it on high settings I mean it wasn't exactly the best experience on the 1750 but it was world leaps and bounds ahead of the 770 which only had two gigabytes of erm so I just say we'll go with the 480 because it's got that extra but I should go by there which is you know the speed wise they're both relatively the same but it's that extra gigabyte of vram really is a good selling point at this stage so yeah yeah exactly right it's good to get a good model as well if you can the reference for 80 is not as doesn't have as better problems as say the reference to 90 s 2 9 x's I'd still perfect ever it's not ideal and that's the way I would put it see it definitely try go non-reference if you can I'm if you can afford it because that's going to work out a lot better but if you cannot it's not the end of the world the 290 exes we're just ridiculous with the rep the reference cooler was just oh boy so yeah try if you can to get non-reference but if you can't then the reference will still be okay but over getting someone's asking of this monitor zach unix it's the same panel it's just got a scalar in it so you can't overclock it i did have the I've got the Korean monitors which do these other career monitors their the ace of replicas but they went up to 66 hurts so I got a ten percent overclock out of it and that was legit so if they've got no scalar in them you can overclock them but if they got a scalar in them you shit out of luck so for those monitors and you've also got to use the right settings too if you don't the right settings plugged in you'll get a fake refresh rate coming out it's not actually real so there's also got asked a 980 TI or a 1070 now honestly it's not such a big deal yeah I mean whatever whatever is if their beef ones with one's coming in you know for instance you get a 980 tf300 I saw them go on out like people were just offloading those things for like 300 USD when they first then 1070 came out for like four hundred and something dollars easily a nine eight ER in that situation but now as if the price gap virtually the same there's not such a massive difference to Maggie Gowanus yeah I have to I'd have to look better like it would be a good thing for me too if it was possible at some point to do a retest of it but if you are very curious about a full test that link i just posted in chat was my showdown between the 980 TI and the 1070 it's a good video mine's got about one hundred and thirteen thousand views and i went over every sick of you just like doing my show dance of noise temps they are the frames everything all the features and everything else like that and i basically said that it does come down to price so that's something you really do need to look at but if you the 1070 is in your card yeah in every sense all the new features everything else but the 980 TI put up a hell of a fight in terms of performance it still did a damn good job and a lot of the test I mean they were neck and neck like permeated the eye strike yeah 3d micro strike at 4k and we're exactly nick and neck only the 980 TI one by point for FPS and and other benchmarks followed a similar sort of thing of them being quite close together so and this was back when the 1070 that was very new so the drivers had been matured at all so i'd say this is probably become so yeah just just look whatever yeah if you're someone who just doesn't care about the features or any of that stuff and you just care purely about performance and in that scenario i would just go with whatever one you can get cheaper yeah so I someone said what Canada's dollars about on par with Australian dollar do I look for deals in Canada night like I only look for deals locally usually because of postage and you get some really good deals i mean i did get hosed from this r9 280x but if that guys watching or if someone knows this guy who sold that on the coasts i'm coming for you buddy oh I'm coming for you I'm getting my money back I just I hate scamming man it's one of the it's so dodgy why it's a hundred dollars and you've got to what just swindle someone out of a hundred bucks now I like for me it's okay right I can absorb the damage but what if that was someone who was building you know they were on a budget they were strictly on a budget they're young whatever they're really looking forward to building a gaming PC and you say the parts working you're like oh it's perfectly working and they get a nigga host I mean it's a joke man it's really bad you know you can crush someone's sort of dreams in ways you know so it's terrible i hate that practice I really despise scamming I think it's disgusting I might even go to the police see what they could do but apparently it's a civil dispute because he can just said he say she say bullshit but I'm i did i did screenshot though I did screenshot the ad so I do have the wording in the ad so yeah that's just I hate it man I hate getting scammed but as for deals if I'm if I'm locally in a place I will hunt for deals in that place Japan was a gold mine I love Japan Australia bake the Gold Coast has been awesome where i live at the moment been awesome for deals I really have picked up some insane deals here that even better Japan's deals on some things I and I did over Christmas it sort of opened my eyes when we went on this trip I got to make a video on that actually I got a heap of footage I just got to do the voiceover but went to New Caledonia in Vanuatu and Moon vanuatu this is nothing at all like don't even bother like if you have to build a pc there you want to get it imported I don't know the input laws but new caledonia was sort of like this French island and they had one computer store that apparently had tech but they just closed whenever they want so that will close them the day when we were there's like okay cool is we're going to get a taxi and go all the way up there is like no they closed I called them up make sure and like now they actually closed it out late okay cool just a random weekday we're just closing down it's not open today so the state of tech in some countries is so bad it makes you feel like we really are privileged to be in you know even in New Zealand you'd a bit much better than say for instance new caledonia so I shipping on another that the two aren't even comparable there's like probably I don't know how long thousands of tips to us thousands of take me for some in the same leak you know yeah I was trying to you know no but you know only only one country can keep beating you in be sir oh very good yeah now I saw that someone was saying they're gonna do where was okay hello we're gonna wrap up the show pretty soon cuz uh yeah yeah yeahs gonna go to ATX okay I'm gonna go overclock overclocked at the gym bruh so yeah so thanks for tuning in guys I hope kevs audio was a lot better this week I mean I watched the feedback i watched playback it was pretty unbearable you know turned up the v-moda stir yeah I'm sorry guys I really III thought the settings I was running it at were the same as we had done previously because we try to keep it consistent and the problem was actually it seems to be with the Yeti itself rather than something I was doing or something Brian was doing and obviously changing now to the siren that should have alleviated the problem entire this well this still is that echo in the room that hopefully you can fix that in due time so that's um yeah now we're going to get air caves a game on freeze audio because you guys deserve it in the audience and we'll catch you guys next week and be sure to hit up the forums if you want to ask any questions during the week just it's easy to sign up there's a discussion thread here tech lounge questions for the live show drop the questions in will read them let's start at the Q&A every week for you guys and I hope you enjoy this week's episode and they'll be more tech videos coming this week I'll catch you guys next time check out Cavs channel through links in description any last words for the viewers keV uh no just yeah thanks thanks guys I still love doing all these shows it's really fun um and yeah i'll be putting up a power supply unboxing very soon so if you're i came to see we'll take power supply because I did the RGB one the other day and that was quite an RGB powers I won't be doing that for you soon yeah yeah it's becoming a thing now of course she said everyone you see it's just it's just just when they're thin will take ring RGB fans you know the ones they brought out a little while ago it's just one of those in the power supply so you basically would have to run it up for people to see the RGB but hey you don't know ok ok cool anyway we'll catch you guys next week thanks for tuning in p 7 i'll see you guys bye