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welcome back to episode 14 of the tech lounge and I'm joined here by kev from tech show down how you doing man doing good Brian how are you right yeah pretty good besides the heat yesterday it was about 37 degrees in this room so like that's a anyone's wondering where where the constant steady stream of content has been it's just been too damn hot to work at the moment like really even now it's 32 degrees in this room arm this will be the last time it'll happen because next whatever next summer i'll make sure i have a concert up I just and apparently civil about this is one of the worst summers on hand here so yes he's you've been reading about today the Dukes going up to like 40 how has it gone for you yeah well a yesterday was like ridiculous like in my room I mean outside it might have been like 39 or something but got up to like 37 or something like on my thermometer yeah it was just crazy it's crazy I don't want to do it again yeah you're not doing this with another summer of this so yeah like trying to make videos man I just like even put the graphics card in there's just wet just pouring down and you know things like that you'll get headaches and you you will yeah there will be a negative consequences for working in this weather it's just bad been very bad it's been a bad week actually so how about yourself I a man it's it's I mean it's been pretty hot here as well not not to the same degree not sort of you know you're going to die if you go outside sort of heat like you get over there but uh yeah yeah it's it's been a bit rough lately but I I just been cruising a um I will get into but quite a few more videos tamaris that cranking out a keyboard a keyboard review of this ducky and and these headsets as well so going to be doing peripherals mainly this week okay yeah get that done I've got to get through a heap of content when it hopefully cools down apparently is meant to be 29 today that's what my mom told me else is like it's gonna be 29 I'm like are cool and it's 32 already that's like nine thirty in the morning 32 and I'm like really sweating so yeah hopefully things get it a little bit cooler soon just get a bit of a break it's just been so hard but I'm we got topics up here guys the AMD risin 1700 x 8 core cpu benchmarks apparently leaked so on wccftech so again whatever comes out here you just take with a little grain of salt but probably see ya the CPU is performing on par with what you would expect from a 6900 k like it's looking like it's hitting pretty close with the 6900 k yeah yeah no definitely that's very impressive this is I mean yeah i I II don't know these Aang we don't know if these are one hundred percent correct but it's a good sign anyways yeah so that's the thing i mean if these numbers are on point then you can expect the cpu to kick ass it'll be indeed what the server market needs and also what gamers need apparently with what is it the this is one benchmark that does worry me that the physics school you've got there sort of in the share the eight core 16 threats sort of not doing as well as I'd hoped here so that's sort of like the one benchmark that does worry me here is the physics it's so interesting the way why yeah this is quite interesting what does it fall down on the physics test and yet in their first one what was that a integral math test well I mean it's got to do the architecture of course but that's what I that's what I'm saying to a lot of the viewers like a lot of people going to read this be sharing it and saying you know it's going to kick ass and I'm sure it will be good value for money there's no doubt about that but coming out and saying oh it's going to be just as good as a 6900 k it remains to be seen in what exact scenarios like if i get this thing put it through a rendering test in Premiere Pro is it going to pull out that same times at 6,900 k if we put it against the 7700 k is it going to get the same frame rates in the games so that's the real world test that a lot of people are waiting for you know the cpu past my schools will CPU mark scores aren't always the most accurate so that is true enemy that the point is as well is that people need to remember that even if it's a five percent slower than the 6900 k but it comes in at however much lower in price people aren't gonna go out there and pay all that extra money for the 6900 k if they can get this cpu for you know a third cheaper or quarter three quarters of the price of the 6900 k yeah currently five percent lower performance people make that deal every time and as we said previously on the show broadwell ecp use in general aren't the best overclockers but the 6900 k isn't particularly good so that could be an advantage that that big risin ship well as as well yeah i mean that they might only go to 4 gigahertz to that was the rumors yeah as well so mean use 7700 k might still be the the gaming duck schnucks sort of a cpu yeah 5.1 or 5 gigahertz but you still getting those chips are badly you still going to delayed the thing which you shouldn't have to do yeah yeah i mean i'm really hoping this cpu does kick ass so especially the 6 quart well thread more eyes on that so yeah guys what we got here is apparently cpu that is sort of time with the 6900 k which is really good out of the get-go ah though that the physics school sort of wasn't it off you know was a bit often was like it yeah it's nice it's yeah it's a bit bizarre e but even then if you look at the physics score I mean it still scores above the 7700 k but yeah it's quite a bit lower than even the 6800 k yeah so but looking forward to what it's going to bring again so hopefully that becomes a reality hopefully your reisen is as good as it looks on these benchmarks and it is kick ass so it's going to be the project 381 dollars i mean for a core 16 threads that is nice to certainly love but again that pricing in ways is that that that is for the that is for the eight core 16 threat I mean I hope AMD is and undercutting itself because i thought this there you know I thought their King daddy CPU was meant to be six hundred dollars but apparently they've got the rise in 70 1800 x with just five hundred dollars so yeah yes at the bottom of that article yet it shows that the pricing with them so you can see the 1800 x is here coming in at five hundred dollars but yeah the 1700 x 389 that is very very competitive well given the relative yeah that's that's insane that's really really really good we can have to see the most interesting thing that I think reviewers like myself and Brian and others will really need to show you guys the consumers is the differences between these rise and CP users all well and good to compare them to the Intel chips which is great but we also need to compare them to things within their own line up like what I did with my AMD APU lineup and then you'll probably be able to see which ones will be the best in terms of value for money because you know there's going to be ones that come in at a good price point i think the 1700 x is a very good one but also the six cause the cheapest six cores ryan has a brian has gone on about plenty of times that 1500 rise in five 1500 which is the six score 12 thread i think that coming in at they're saying coming in at two hundred and twenty nine dollars I kind of i'm sort of all got to see that to believe it 229 I it does perform as well as it should then that's going to be a huge win for everyone pc gaming I mean 229 six o'clock yeah what I'm confused about is though it's got a hundred megahertz higher base clock and then you've got the 1600 x coming with 30 watts higher TDP that that's pretty weird I mean usually you don't get a TDP jump like that just off 100 megahertz and 200 beds boost clock and that's thirty dollars more expensive which isn't that much I mean I would honestly pay the extra 30 bucks if it's if it is going to be a sorted chip everything's going to be Bend if there's just if it's just a free-for-all than yeah you get you to 29 just overclocked but yeah yeah there'll be something going on I mean as you know we don't know all the details yet be I think I think one of those I think you're heading nail and a head that the 1500 with a be 350 motherboard that is going to be for how much you spend from what we can see on paper anyways that's going to look like some pretty damn good value for money and performance ways that's going to be a very powerful set up for not much money so yeah if you were if people are going to do budget bills with brand new parts that could be the king if the performance is really that good because I mean I don't know how the little own eyes and a compared to it anymore could be king demon king ding is that you saying yeah so there it is that's the rising line up far so what we've really got here is diff apparently like not you know they've got all these different sku lineups like you've got this cpu you've got so many different CPUs but what we're looking at really is four different models of CPU we've got a call 16 thread six score 12 threads for core eight threads and four cores for threads so that's what you're looking at you've got four different CPUs in this lineup in terms of actual unique CPUs and that's going to hit the shelves so as it yeah and the Intel's got the same when you look at it right Intel's got the exact same thing you've got the dual core two threads to course for threads four cores 4 threads for calls 8 threads on their sort of main consumer z 270 lineup so I no not now Pentiums all have fiber threading so the threats that's what it is Brian well someone pointed out I don't know if you notice this already I just just noticed it but the X on the end of it those are the ones with xfr you remember their auto overclocking features so it will treat itself like GPU boost three point 0 or something with the CPU will just okay just allow will just take itself up and up and up that's why it says xfr 3.7 gigahertz plus so that means that'll be like the base like what Nvidia does with GPU is where it'll be however megahertz plus and then it'll go up to so say 4 gigahertz by itself so that's what the exes for the exes are so the x is for if you're a turbo noob now you've heard about turbo noobs in games they jump into the games they've only had a few hours of gameplay but they think they're pros and then they end up getting slaughtered by someone who's played the game a lot longer basic so far is your turbo noob setting so you can be a turbo noob and you can get better over clocks for doing nothing so yeah I'm sure that those CPUs were also overclocked better than the their other counterparts given that it looks like that 30 what higher GDP might be able to give it that extra power it needs it spends on the I really depends on the node man that overclocking comes down you know I've heard rumors you know the 6900 k for example is 6800 k I've got in my rig at the moment they're just terrible overclockers they go to like mine goes to 4.3 with a ridiculous high amount of voltage I think even Wendell killed one of those CPUs running like somewhere in the 1.3 region not too sure like no like seriously like this terrible you can't give them too much faults otherwise they will die they will just they will just shoot themselves so you've got to be careful of the voltage you put through the broad well II CPUs but at the same time if this thing's hitting foggy yards out of the factory then you should expect it to at least be beating those 6800 KS maybe 4.3 4.4 sort of like it really scenario but maybe in terms of five gigahertz they'd have to really don't have to really mature their manufacturing line do that so that takes time yeah I think I think these will be Bend as well as someone said and the and chat they I would expect that to be the case yeah the ex ships will be the ones they'll feature the xfr and they're also going to be bend I would I mean you got to think about it from am deeds perspective they're going to know that enthusiasts like you Brian will look at these and be like I don't care about that because I'm going to do my own overclocking so they will all just gravitate towards the cheaper one yeah and the 229 rather than the 259 one because it's worm about whatever and that would be a very that would be a very good video for you to do when these come out is take the non ex and the X and overclock both of them and see which one actually goes home because if you can get way higher on the ex model one then maybe they opened and then could then the TDP no dirty deed but that TDP would make sense then you don't generally you if you're allowing the CPU to be unlocked and then you've got a lower TDP and you've got the 1600 X for example the 1500 they will take this one here the rise in 1500 versus the 1600 X so yeah it's got 30 watt TDP difference that's because you're just grabbing the CPU and clocking at higher it's pretty much an apples to apples thing you've got essentially there's no bidding that's what that's indicating yeah because you got that lower TDP for instance if we look at the e 50 for 50 vs the X 5460 a very valid comparison that had a lower TDP but only had a slightly lower clock like very slightly long long and when people started overclocking him they did indeed get lower temperatures on the e 50 for 50 s on average so which means that it's Bend for low power consumption which means it in herrin tlie it's a better chip so with that higher GDP figure i'd say that the same chip I mean you're not going to Ben you're not going to bend your cheaper CP used to be better right so sorry exactly i'm just-just if this is true if this spec sheet is true then we can see that I don't think there's any Benny going on that's just my guess yeah yeah no that that would be the case so hopefully um let me know you guys think in chat always read that stuff that's good you're not gonna pour yeah it took that someone said like the stream was dropping our knob got no drop frames so this should be stream should be perfect oh yeah I just shake differences it's fine now so okay it should be good yeah so hopefully you know this is had TV yeah yeah we figured that so yeah I think I'll try I mean I made inquiries into this already but i'll probably work my way from the top down go from the 1800 x down through whatever ones i can get my hands on but my main thing first will be i'll probably do a build system around rising with playtech and then with that system i'll go down the line and show the performance difference from different ones because i'd rather test them out within their own line up first and then because everyone's going to be comparing them to intel yeah so i'll probably test them internally first because it's going to be a million videos that that's like you know it's 1800 x vs 6900 k or 1700 x vs 7700 k and all those videos will be coming out so i'll just test them with with each other and that should be interesting ok well yeah i can't wait so for me it's really i'm only really going to be testing probably two cpus the 1600 x and the 1500 then you can see ok is this going to be binned is there a massive difference and you know if my off life but if the cheaper model overclocks higher than that's your conclusion just get i Jes if you're going to go bang it on a game 350 and call it a day will go up here they're also releasing their CPU coolers with it so they've got the high performance like a rave and they got their TDP m95 watt TDP 65 or so they've got three different CPU coolers with their rising CPUs hitting the shelves they do look a pretty normal they look they look good I mean it looks better than what Intel is spinning out for so long so these water look completely hideous in your rig but again guys these are the wreath color doesn't holliday TX ok guys the ex model will probably get the Wraith cool that's what we're missing out on okay so you're paying an extra 30 bucks probably for a school there you go yeah and it'll be Bend and it'll be have access or might not be busy I'm guessing it's not been but you get a wraith cooler so you're paying 30 bucks for a wraith cool and a higher clock speed just programmed I benning's something you'd have to know are they doing you'd have to get that confirmation from an employee are they sorting the chips that's a very good that's a very good guess though Brian that is of you I completely agree you've hit the nail on the head there I would be very surprised if that's not the case yeah because of course they want the xfr to take advantage of low temperatures it's hot guys are gonna have a mid break here for a bit of a water otherwise forget I'll get ahead of cheer extreme yeah yeah yeahs doing it now not much to it really you're gonna get you see be used there I that's what they look like pretty much and the race will be good from the sense that it'll allow the xfr to it won't limit it as much so you're one hundred percent right there but of course these aren't going to be the best you're a lot of people a lot of enthusiasts obviously be using their own coolers on them yeah that makes a good point though are they going to release Tracy peas as well and how much cheaper will they be I mean Intel is pretty much doing it now with their case cpus you don't even get a cool with them but they're not passing on the savings which is annoying yeah rmd going to do something similar as well just release the standalone CPUs without calls in general I think that's what I'd like to see I mean I don't really know anyone rocking overclocks with a stock cooler unless it was back in the day like unless you're buying even now you're buying one of those old-school Intel CPUs and you've just got one of those massive fat until coolers laying around those things actually did a decent job I remember i clocked like a xeon up good thirty or forty percent on one of those things and it'll still holdin up so yeah remains to be seen I'd like to see a standalone there we've got the risin though he's just a man what's up the Rajah kuduro that's his name I was like how I forgot his name us or their rajuk story is just like sitting down looking at his end cpu which is purple ed from Texas would be completely he'd have a heart attack seeing those cables in the background yeah probably cable management man Roger where's your cable management bro so that's like that's what I'm looking at with that photo so we've got here the next article though something you brought up as well Kevin wanted to talk about this is the Andy reveals another edge for risin and that's what it will be small long so chip the chip pound-for-pound the cpu is going to be smaller than competitor a with a 20 nanometer CCU enforceable by later yeah which is just skylights oh cabi like seattle beer yeah that'll be a 6700 k which is essentially very similar to the kb like 7700 Casey this is interesting the actual area 44 millimeters squared compared to 49 the main thing I mean a lot of you guys approach me like or why do we why does that even matter um it doesn't particularly but the main thing is the cash or cash however you want to say ah the l2 you can see it's double on sin by comparison um so that's a really good thing that a lot of guys will probably notice that that is quite good what yeah I like the double dl to that does looking pretty sexy but I mean as four times with the spell people though like how would how would you define as helping it just it just gives the CPU access to what's got more it's your fastest got faster memory close yeah the cause so yeah that's you know that would be if you were looking at that energy math for example that would probably be gained from that that increase in l2 I mean I'd have to get Wendell on here knows more about that those specifics but that would be my guess would be the L to be giving you those performance benefits in integer mouth and whatnot but what I mean I've always been a believer in having more of that you know more of the juicy cash cash show if you want to say ever been a big fan of having more of it on the cpu I thought back in the day especially back in the day I mean nowadays your CP uses so fast that you're probably not going to see it so much but I always thought back in the day it did make a difference like in terms of how smoothly games came out I mean it's still dependent of course your drivers on your video cards are way more important exciting things like that but I always used to like back in the day like I always thought the smoothest experience was an AMD cpu coupled with a nvidia graphics card I always thought that was you know befall the stuttering became a big thing I always thought that was the combination to have first yeah this bloody smooth gameplay but then again could just all be in my head but apparently not sometimes it's not an all in my head because you know but then all these studies come out and people are getting like high frame rate cameras and analyzing it and saying yes this this and this is true so yeah yet anyway Palace the CPU snit just a second brain the assassin chat half the people said it's strange flying than the other half people are saying can't load to stream com okay well it's true health the stream Health's got a green light man if the stream health I've got no drop frames so it would be on youtubes and like something our money's going on there yes i'm uploading to the australian sir absolutely fine um so yeah up leading to the forms absolutely fine so yeah and I will I will plug the forums guys head over to taxi DTV / forums because you have a groan we got all the good discussion going on but here we got risin it's going to be smaller I mean really what's that going to do for you guys I don't know might be more power efficient if it's a better cpu but none of that article we got here in video surges again like fifty percent more than fifty percent so their revenues up again I mean these guys are just completely dominating the market look at this though nvidia was the best performer on the sp500 in 2016 that is a feat in that's our agency out of here Anthony's on that did the best Wow yeah I mean that shows you that they've really got a formula that's huge news the best company on the S&P for I wonder not only in the tack I mean look this is heaps of companies on there but this is a tech company and I just they're killing it the guys selling its graphics cards and well not now I know there's going to be a lot of people in the comments you know their drivers yet I agree completely agree some of the things need improvement but in terms of being that business driven making money making that there's product milking that milking us the consumers they're doing a great job of it you know yeah yeah exactly right I mean some people out there might not understand I just let explain really quick SMP is the standard & poor's 500 list so that's a stock market list and forage you know publicly traded companies are like nvidia is so that means if it was the best performer that means that the stock has risen the most in terms of its value and that's really good for any company if your stock prices continually growing what's an index to gauge the market like it's an index they pull 500 companies out usually what are they met middle these usually large cap and S&P for i wanted to think so they pull out 500 companies and they say okay this is how the market is performing it's an index it's we gotta be a now companies come in companies come out all the time companies will come on to this index companies will drop out because of whatever they'll go liquidate and whatever things will happen but the S&P 500 is changing and so yeah it's just an index to give you a price of how the overall market is doing so to speak so a lot of people will invest in S&P 500 funds as well so they invest in a fund that pretty much performs as this index performs so that's the there's few reasons for it but yeah and videos doing the best out of those which is pretty damn impressive so that's very good so yeah everything's up on their business and their automotive business is rising like apparently 37.6 percent so they've obviously got into a good venture there with their especially with tests Tesla so their automatic driving systems I mean that's going to be huge if I imagine this is a growing market to they could really foresee that so they're getting into a really profitable market there and so yeah I mean that's in video guys they're just dominating the market milking it so next time you and 500 box in your wallet you just got to hand it over to Nvidia that's pretty much it haha yeah and attendance of a thousand before your eyes but the one thing i will give in video and i think a lot of people in the tech me to give it rather than intel who has the intel has been very incremental with its jumps from if you we look at kb light compared to Sky lake that is a very small jump where as you can see that in videos also there is more competition with the graphics cards but Nvidia still dominates the market but the jump to Pascal was fantastic absolutely phenomenal so that's a really good thing as well you know like Pascal was such a leap forward in so many ways I Pascal was just not really I mean not really fast gains they just tweaked the architecture I mean it would have cost a lot of money but they liked it so they leave out anxious it came with the jump and performance for a lot of the GPS themselves compared to when I did the testing yeah the 980 TI and the 1070 had similar performance but you have to think that the 1070 also uses much less power yes a nanometer Binoy that they've jacked up the compression so I mean it's like it did yesterday was though there wasn't really roar any raw performance gains you know and if you would have the same compression going on the 980 TI I'd say the 90 i'll be starting to smoke it then you know so it's it's okay yeah I wasn't jump alone was very good yeah I mean I was a bribe me in the 1070 was a great card and say I'm running one now great probably like your high-end sort of value if that's the word to say value for money card me named he doesn't have a competitor to it at the moment so I would like to see AMD released their RX 490 whatever ASAP to compete with the gtx 970 but in terms of the gtx 1070 over the 980 I don't know anyone who's had like any gamer that's got a 980 I and they went out and bought at 1070 I just did pretty much the same card and when you overclock in my nightie I should you know should be the 1070 at least in every case that I've seen so really what you want to look at is yeah what you're doing is an individual do you need upgrade I me because there was 980 eyes I saw them going for as low as 300 us that's so cheap for a 90 hei I thing is a beast at that price and I mean the 6th gear bike frame before that thing is huge it's going to be absolutely fine for 1440p so well even for k I mean I had no problems playing games at 4k with that so yeah cool now it's all up in the air magic it's magic what was that again ilysm wasn't that the battlefield thing it's magic okay so Intel is pouring so next up here until is going to make factories in Arizona in the US so they bring in business back home so apparently building of the factories 3000 tech jobs and then you've got 10,000 long-term jobs coming to the US so this is the seven nanometer manufacturing process this will be after the three generations of cannon late to be introduced so this year later this year I hopefully will get the I don't know if it's hopefully maybe not hopefully but we're going to get Intel's 10 nanometer line up and that'll be there that'll be there node shrink then the next year in 2018 we should be getting their architectural change so we hopefully should be getting five percent this year five percent next year IPC gains and then I at the expense of clock rates I don't know that's one big thing that remains to be seen because we've got the CPUs now up to five gigahertz really a lot of people are running five gigahertz on the 7700 KS that's I've read a lot of the reviews everywhere talked to a lot of people a lot of people are getting these things to around five gigahertz so is canon lake is that going to be dropping down the clock speeds on average if so that's really going to hurt Intel even if they do get their five percent IPC gains so that's what I'll say in my review with the arm with the cabbie lake CP uses that okay we've got no I pc gains we did get an impressive overclock which is the saving grace for cab you late but at the same time Intel's really raise their own bar that they have to perform now because what else are they got they've got to give us i pc games but at the same time they put this pressure on themselves where they have to give you the higher clock speeds with that so yeah interesting until and they decrease their quality of the saml pace yeah that was a bad they gave you higher clock speeds with high temps as well yeah it'll state from heartburn box he's like you know message mazes like you know I'd I sent him the kit straight it was like Lou man go get this thing go get some self some liquid pro take care yourself he did the video too he found a huge difference in temperatures it's huge like yeah that's it it's the thing I'm getting an extra 200 megahertz at 20 degrees lower so like I'm getting higher clock speeds pumping higher voltage to it and you i overclock so this time around dear lettings just that it's crucial you have to do it you just have to exactly yeah because I mean these things do overclock really high but you just have to get the temps down so he found out the same came to the same conclusion you just have to deal with these things at high higher overclocks so yeah that was pretty cool yeah yeah no it's good to see these things and I mean with Tesla's idea factory the building and Nevada I believe that's good in the u.s. a lot of construction going on now a lot of companies building up big factories in that which will lower prices for consumers because you know what's the name of it called when they make more something the price gets cheaper we got the term they use um but yeah that's basically it there'll be more stuff getting built by inflation was talking about just inflation no not inflation the oh gone blank I can't remember what it's called you know the saying that soldiers had a brain fart yeah and there when you build more or something like with economy you'll get economies of scale that's it that's it unlike with Henry Ford with the Model T you know he built they built so many of them that he could bring the price of the car and second so expensive yeah so that was the thought the advantage bigger companies have over little companies years economies of scale yes less production yeah yeah yeah just just building stuff on a huge scale to bring down the prices so that'll be good as well so and here we are guys a year later so we moved on now call of duty is going back to its roots I mean isn't every year we always need God we always will we always hear about cod hype Cod's always going this this year's gonna be the year for cod this year is gone it's there man and this year again is gonna be the year for cod it's gotten back to its roots but apparently we're looking at a World War 2 genre I mean they did a survey and I think that obviously the game would ready be in production so they like okay I'd said I want to see you like a modern like right now we've got all these cool guns out there I want to see them in the game now so I sort of voted for the mid-19th a really that many good World War one James was the thing I mean Verdun was about the only other decent one but the iphoto for well one world war two and I said sixty-seven percent of gay agree so that the day I mean something the bridge banking on that they probably did a survey little little survey off the books and they're like yeah so they already do everybody got this in production guys so there it is that looks like the next cod is going to be a world war two genre which I'm happy with I you know world war the past or now I'd much rather than this future stuff where you lay running on walls doing backflips laser cannons it's just a bit too much like so yeah so I like it I like what they're doing at least with the direction but again is it going to sell as well as black ops 3 did because infinite warfare didn't do anywhere near as good as black ops 3 so remains to be seen remains to be seen good ol cod I like my Cod Bay yeah everyone liked the infinite warfare pc there was a good pc you can't have not yet i know that some people is gonna be some people in chat you know they're just gonna rage they hate cod like with a passion I've never I mean I've never minded it i mean if you were a console gamer i probably could understand i mean i've seen some of my friends play it on console and there's just like it's like you're jumping into this freaking room with like a there's eight year olds on there too man you just hear these guys like they haven't even hit ya know even close to PVD and it's like this is just like discussion yeah man can I go killing me i get a flank you mean like he's just like what turn that off me ya know like I think it's been at a judge it game by game yeah for sure like let you know it is there there are really good games within the college any light up that are big exceptions to the role that they're all you know really average or whatever yep black ops was extremely good as well it's probably my favorite so I'm watching the live view account there it looks like there's something wrong with the servers maybe in the States or something yes sir looks like it's the USA only problem because I've seen like the live numbers just drop so unfortunate looks like you a youtube in the u.s. is having problems because yeah people are messaging UK is fine so you're interesting I began well it's fine for you guys as long as the streams going right then you can watch the archived version anyways and it will come up fine if you and so because newsy AMD's released their relive 17.1 dot to work all drivers so official drivers that should work with windows 10 and they should work perfectly fine now a lot of people have had problems with drivers say for instance they've got their r9 290 or 290x and they're like okay i installed real I've or relive and it doesn't work properly anymore so what you got to do in that case is do a get a program called ddu direct drive run installer it does a really good job so uninstall your drivers first then use this program to completely uninstall our the registry and then boot up your pc again and then do a full clean install and you shouldn't have any problems because i didn't have that problem when i was testing the reliv drivers before and then Steve hardware box he recommended me that program because I before that I used to actually go into the registry edit and like delete things and so this program just saves all the hassle of doing that so it's a really good program director / uninstaller if you're having problems with any real if drivers try that uninstall then used edu then install relive and see if you've got any problems after that you shouldn't but if you do then unfortunately use the latest driver that worked for you now some other news here cab 1 plus 3t you want to talk about this it's got massive 128 gigabytes of internal memory and it's available for pre-order yes so this is the I got an actual this is a 1 plus 3 here not the 3t but the the three T is very similar um this is actually a friend of Mines and they're a great phone I've been using this just a little bit just to see what it was like and it's absolutely fantastic for the price that's coming in and they're saying these ones will come in at 479 US dollars for the hundred twenty eight gigabyte version which I think's extremely good vey that's works out to be six hundred and twenty-five dollars Australian and about six hundred and sixty five dollars New Zealand yeah it's awesome double the point on your smartphone yeah it was yeah okay thank you know what else teaching in japan true when i was teaching in japan true story true story there'd be these kids in the last year and that be like Brian Brian sensei AV AV I'm like what sex I've never heard of it before when he's like look at this look at this is just like quickly gets his smartphone out shows me porn like I'm limits yeah on the job like a face like shits like that's like I'm like how much of that stuff II got on there and it's just like flicking through like look at this man I'm just like that's not bad but not for real I was like oh that's what i was thinking inside I'm thinking oh yeah you can't show that at school night you know yeah so no now you can be yeah you got double the storage now and your smile that's good yeah six gigs of ram still this is a very good phone very high-end phone for the price so yeah if you want out if you're a person out there looking for a new smartphone and you're looking for something that's very you want to spend a bit of money but you still want very good value then go for the one plus 3t because it's it's still an expensive phone no one's starting that but when you compare it to a petition the price point is coming at it is very very very good yeah it's funny with smartphones like this is weird i dropped my smartphone so like yeah it's the screens all cracked I you know it's funny because like years that i've been using two phones I've always laughed at people who cracked this screen and like how did you do that you know how do you even do that and then like this one I knew I was going to have a problem with this one because it's nice and shiny but at the same time it is also slippery so I did I ordered a new screen for it ordered a new case everything so that was only like 30 aug like 20 American for a really like metal case I've got a metal case coming a new glass screen but I yells at the gym and just too just like grab my stuff grab my keys and then just slipped out and dropped on the floor and I just said is cooked my god jeez so there was a broken screen so yeah it does happen broken screens guys because they're now all tempered glass to they're not like they don't use any plastic sort of cheese legs astral glass but yeah yeah well that's there yeah I don't know so now this is that quite interesting that the 3t for you guys out there I'm it still does retain a 1080p screen which some people might not like I personally don't mind it that much as I love it I mean that's a lot of pixels on a screen that small man like I'm comparing it yeah it's materie likewise is better and all that I mean it's still an AMOLED display have they done any blind studies yet where they've got the 4k displays and they've tested them versus a 1080p like same phone live you are viewed it like you know just put like some boxing around it and sort of just say hey can you tell the difference which one's the higher resolution I'd love to see a blind study like that a and see how many people get right cause if it won't but it means that the thing is this 4k phones they only usually show the 4k resolution and specific apps otherwise they're just they go back down to 1440p run for it's not 4k all the time usually they're only 4k in certain apps when you're watching or playing certain things so that's that's why but um smartphone yeah I don't think it's a big I don't think it's a big deal that people have you know people are only a 1080p screen it's like really is it that big of a deal goes amen you go look look you just wake up one day you feeling like crap you have to complain about something ok so yeah some people might just be like 1080p screen on a 4k screen there's something to complain about bang that should ya gotta get it off your chest though you cannot blame that guy yeah he's got a goon that's right and your software wise it sound pretty good to these 1 plus phones they run what's called mean they're running Android but they run at oxygen OS over it but it's very very light it's very close to stock Android which a lot of you guys who purchase google phones will like or so so it's not it's not like a samsung phone we have big bloated TouchWiz over the top of it which is billions of bloatware on it what's gonna say like what do you actually use your smartphone for life for me i use it for like twitter instagram taking some photos checking some prices if i'm out and about i'm on the mobile whatever checking some things like it's not really like a tool that i use at a time you know like some people can use the things religiously you know and then there's going to be the guy in the comments and i use it for porn it's going to fess up but um what do you guys like I wouldn't need 128 gigabytes like I did not because I think this thing's got like 16 and it's absolutely fine or something like that so yeah I did know you don't yeah I mean some of the power users might to like to use if I'm for everything might like it but now usually I just use the phone to read read the news and chat to people are you ready news on my computer man well I do that as well but if I'm out and about like if I'm waiting for something waiting at the barber or something like that then I'll look at because I like reading the news when I do something like that you know it's something you can read a whole news article it takes a bit of time so I'll do something read something like that bro um although a lot of the it's bizarre a a lot of the news apps are actually really bad I don't know why that news companies a lot of times they they have really bad apps you and I compare them tell the ones I've seen out there so there's a lot of news services I'd like to read but the apps are so bad I just deleted them because it's almost sort of unreadable half the time ya know so we'll move on to Q&A guys so Q&A time do you did you want to get through the forum questions yeah so we're third so yeah well there's from there was a couple of new ones so said thanks for answering the questions so I wanted to know about ECC server ram on especially with the nine i did it with a 920 bill they had yes i remember that there was a building in Japan I did where I used ECC memory but it was non registered memory and I had to update the bios to actually use the memory so it was very weird generally you can only use the ECC memory as the registered stuff with a motherboard that is designed for whatever workstation motherboard for example so usually the consumer motherboards don't support the register stuff but non-registered ECC memory which was a thing around the x58 time are you pick that up for cheap and whether it works or not sort of like a little bit of a gamble sometimes it won't work sometimes it will work for me it worked on both motherboards I had a gigabyte and an msi board I'm pretty sure it worked on both with a bios update on both so you had to update the boss first so there was the kicker so after you updated the biased you could then use that stuff and it was performed all right I mean to perform fine I it went up to 1600 megahertz and you know the funny thing is about overclocking that I had some thirteen hundred and thirty-three megahertz stuff on the dual xeon bill now that's registered ECC I got that stuff up to eighteen hundred and sixty six megahertz it was some fast stuff so that stuff is pretty like you can't you can't do astronomical overclocks on it because of the way it's designed but you can still get some extra performance out of even ECC registered memory so that's what I've found that's just my my personal experience with it you know of course as I'm sure there's going to be a guy out there who's gotten absolutely nothing out of his ram that's ECC registered but each their own I found I've got 128 gigabytes of this stuff so that's a lot of ram and when i overclocked did it overclocked fine so we've got here by brian and give hi mr mallya in the next few months i'll be building a new rig and his budget is about 3,000 Australian that's pretty big and he was wondering if he should go within video right AMD GPU also wondering which monitor he should get I had he had a samsung 1440p 60 Hertz monitor that died which he needs to be replaced ASAP he can't stand 1080p gaming crazy and he imeem like I thought 1080p was not too bad I heard standard but he definitely wants a he wants a 1440p 144 it's free sync or g-sync preferably IPS I like the fact that AMD seems to get better with age and that they have hardware a sonic racing compute which should hopefully benefit the debt from dx12 the only monitor i can find it Zia Zeus mg 279 Q which has a free sync range of 35 290 what would I do I sent you a link Brian tell them they're just bringing if you can bring that link up that monitor that I've linked to that that would do you perfectly fine at casc or a arc Aegon AG 271 QX there's something I tested a while back and it's a 1440p free sync 144 hurts this is in Jersey only dolls thank you shot don't get shocked brother processes and yeah the cell newzealand dollars new zealand off the price in america maybe is that 1440 outta ya 1440p the only downside is that it is tnd i have tested this and it is a very good tea in very very good but if you want if you're someone out there that just absolutely can't stand it i'm judging this guy is i mean i'm not going to say OCD but i say he's got his vision is number one so mr. Moff your vision is your number one thing you've got 3,000 australian dollars so what you're going to do is you're going to want to go out i reviewed this samsung 1440p ultra-wide go out buy one of those things it's got a VA panel absolutely phenomenal backlighting 100 Hertz refresh rate it's going to do you man you're going love this thing I it doesn't have g-sync probably the only downside but again it's got a free Singapore but but you will want to probably get maybe a 1070 that's the problem like the AMD cards at the moment you've only got the rs-485 from a brand new shelf yeah you have to wait for vaguer if you wanted a legit high-powered AMD card even to power the one that you're suggesting the Zeus mg 279 q nice monitor IPS pretty good yeah 144 hurts so it's up to you me personally I'd be going with these ultra lights now if we're talking high-end if you've got 3,000 AED that's a lot you could probably put together a 1070 rig and get the 1440p ultra wide for that in that budget yeah yeah you just better off waiting though right now guys if you're thinking about building a system just wait because you've got reisen coming out soon which even if you die I destroy this is the thing that in Oz like a lot of the AMD savings don't get passed through especially on the cpu end I find that I mean you remember comparing like FX 8320 builds in the states vs. Australia and then comparing the same Intel builds from the states vs. Australia the Intel builds with much more in line in terms of you know PPP prosperity there so as opposed to the AMD builds the motherboards were ridiculously expensive and honest there with the CPUs were overpriced I hope this is not a reaper i'm on petition at help though I mean I doubt that price you would expect process to come down I'm sure until one chosen comes out if it is competitive intel will be dropping their prices to keep their market share they're not going to let i would be very surprised of intel did not shift their prices yeah raised and performs how we think i would say i'm not saying they're going to drop by a huge amount but you'd see thirty forty fifty dollar drops on different CPUs in their line depending on where they've got them situated they can't just drop one they have to drop all of them in the line because otherwise it will come out really funny in terms of their lineup but I think you'll see the whole lot drop and then of course when Vega comes out you'll probably see nvidia do a similar thing with the 10 17 10 80s I mean the 1070 I mean that's like saying at the moment I'd pick the 1070 ultra-wide 21 by nine yes you could simply knew that suit on you I mean depends it depends I mean honestly we could probably like you probably go out on gumtree and pick up a premade and then just drop a 1070 in there cuz i know a lot of people are just selling like their whatever it is you know 5820 keys or they're selling these and they're great rigs and they're just selling because they want to get on the 5 gigahertz no cab you late you know just rain so that's is that there's that factor out there too but yeah I'd go after what Joe ultra why men like after using this samsung monitor it is brilliant you know it is absolutely phenomenal in say you know sad thing is like when you first got it you're like okay the colors are oversaturated nah like after using for a couple of weeks now it's the colors are completely normal to my eyes so what does that tell you it means your eyes have not been getting the good treatment that they deserve and then that now my eyes are used to it so it's loving it so yeah I'm able to see it I'm able to see clearly whatever I don't know guys I don't know it so that's a good question thing anyways but it is a good question so I would say if you possibly can by all means I think Brian would agree with this in the sense that you will have even if we take prices out of the equation at least you'll have more choice and if you wait a few more months and cpu yeah i mean if you can if it but he said he can't he just can't stand it and that's the thing righty the guy mom mr. Moff can't stand it at the moment and I remember that feeling dude when I had the when I first got my 30 3570k I think it was ivybridge I remember I was like hell just wait a couple of weeks till the price of the gtx 670 drops down and then i'll buy one and dude I tried gaming on this thing for a couple of days and I just couldn't handle it I just rage quit and bought the GPU at the earth oppressed price because it was bad man it was so bad night I get his feeling if you just can't stand something he just wants to upgrade right now some people don't want to wait a month man that month to them might be worth that two hundred dollars or one hundred dollar savings that they're going to save so you can't really put a price on time and experience that's what one thing I've learned you've got to see all angles you can't just say okay just wait a month because this guy might he said he can't stand what he's got now he just can't stand it and i know that feeling too so you got to look at what everyone needs is an individual i'd say this guy's an individual man just go pull the trigger broker get that ultra-wide go get that 1070 go to go ham and then just sit back and have fun man yeah i'm usually if i'm using it at the moment using a 1017 the ultra wide man i can vouch for its absolutely phenomenal at a hundred hertz you know because there's a lot of the games that for this resolution with the 1070 absolutely no problems 100 hertz it just looks phenomenal even without g-sync or free sync which is the way i like it because you get the lowest input lag anyway so there we go so yeah anyway guys we are that's about it so that's in the forms questions if you guys have questions will be answering them on the forums first so head over taxi dtb / forums because that way it's more structured we can sort of get the questions going out rather than flicking through chat and sort of like oh yeah we'll always go through the foreign ones first so if you one hundred percent want your questions to be answered then yeah sign up to the forums and post in that thread and then we'll 100% go and check it out but apparently yeah apparently these something's gone wrong man with some of the viewers like they can't see the stream at all like answer yeah it's it's strange a happy but the archive will be up guys the archive will be up I'm getting like a real i'm getting a green light for stream health I've got no drop frames so there's absolutely nothing on my end at least going to be you sure yelling so to be YouTube / state something like that maybe so should the archive should be up guys every asks do you think the do we have any word on rise and overclocking I've absolutely got non it's up in the air I yea I'm guessing it's going to perform similar to the broad will cpu lineup I guess that's you know you probably be looking at four points something max overclocks out of the the ache was yeah I'd say probably get early yeah I think it'd be quite similar to the 6900 k probably get like four point two out of them maybe 4.3 yeah they're probably not going to be beastly but you know we haven't heard anything so it's hard to tell yeah don't do we think the prices of real I mean that's six core two hundred and twenty dollars yeah man it seems too good to be true if the performance is what is almost yeah yeah and you guys should know the same by now when when it's too good to be true usually is usually yeah well that's I don't think the prices are false I'm just like I think it would be what's what yeah what's informant might not be up to because this was the trick with the RX 480 is a lot of people thought the RX 480 at the price point it was coming in at was very good and they look this thing's going to be as powerful as a 1070 at this much lower price point and what ended up being the truth was that it was at that low price point but the performance didn't come close to the 1070 exactly so what's the drawbacks that's what I'm sort of like is there a doubt it almost seems too good to be true so what's the downside here with the horizon CPUs is there something I'm missing here or something that we're not and that that's why I sort of cautioned to that physics core I was kind of like and you know I mean the idea took a step back and I was kind of like I had to sort of take it in for a moment I was like okay well is a benchmark that's showing some real differences so how that's going to really come out for the average consumer is going to be the be-all and end-all I guess so yeah yeah I'm really looking forward to that so yeah guys any more questions are but yeah partly the streams just it's something really bad with the case like I've seen the viewers drop off by half or something which is unusual never usually happens usually get a steady flow of stream viewers so I apologize on youtube's behalf guys but now my string actually is going orange so i might take off so yeah something's actually happening now so ok anyway guys yeah there was this there wasn't the one guy said what's a good case for custom Luke people saying that defy necia the fractal design define s would be just fine that's what most of us what I was thinking or the define our five would be but but probably the divinest would probably the better one see if either of those fantastic yeah alright man alright well I'm gonna get out of here we're gonna get out of here thanks guys for tuning in this was episode 14 yeah we'll just make my stream health has gone to orange light so I don't know what's going on now so thanks for tuning in guys this is episode 14 and we will catch you hopefully next week hopefully next week if no problems happen so yeah alright guys we'll see you next time peace out for now you guys bye