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welcome back to episode 21 of the tech lounge and i'm joined by kev from tech showdown how you doing man was it a great Brian how about you whoo it's been busy it's been busy and we have talked about a lot yeah just been crazy the last way I guess the last but ever since risin was released it has been crazy guys so it has been off the chain and yeah I just haven't stopped and I know a lot of people want to see like this this question a lot of people want to see like the vlog styles more that you stuff and once the time freeze up I promise I'll be getting a lot more of that content out too and I do stick to my promises guys don't worry how that you did what are you doing in the last week eyes has been crazy you're just trying to basically get through a backlog of some of the videos that I needed to get out and then obviously open myself up for rising five so i just finished building my rising five test rig yesterday and that video will be going up today hopefully so that was quite interesting we'll talk about race and five a bit later on and today but yeah it's it's going to be really good going forward I got a lot of really awesome videos planned I think you guys are going to be really excited well the good thing is now with this release is there's going to be both the four core and the six core release so after this we can kind of not have like no more hype coming out it's like here's the results here's how the six call before here's our the four core performs and the just based off risin seven the lower skews the cheapest cues they're going to pretty much be the same thing it just depends on overclocks so we can't say oh my god this is going to be so much better price performance when it'll probably overclock the same as the 66 1600 will overclock the same as a 1600 X and whatnot you know what i mean so yeah i'm hurt ya I'm just because I want to get back like verizon's has been crazy man the Internet's what's been going insane it's been honestly it's just been like a heap of it's been fun it's been like good and bad like it's been fun but then this has been all this hike hype and then like the craziness yeah it's been a lot of craziness out there so yeah you you and adored TV had that that thing Ryan you sorted it all out which is really good he's a good man so yeah yeah mean Jim soil so so we have our disagreements but um you know we we talk to each other and we both made a video basically saying sorry for what we did and me for making accusations and them for reacting very harshly so we are but we started talking to each other quite a bit actually um actually get along really well so yes he's a really nice guy and it was good to sort everything out with them and and talk to each other and hopefully we might do a collab together or something going forward because we actually do get along really well so yeah I've been talking to him quite a bit lately yes nice guy yeah well I guess thing man i'll never judge a man that I haven't met in real life you're not i mean so that's a that's just me brother so you should yells like yet dude you shouldn't shouldn't have done that one but it's all good saw water under the bridge bro you learned your lesson so you move on and it's speaking of moving on so you look at that Segway speaking of moving on we've got here the Titan XP and now people have asked me to pump up the text enlarge it so we can I mean this is I pumped it up a little bit we can go a little bit crazier than that so we can we can go all the way in there we go now hopefully people can read it that's a little bit too much that's that I guess if everyone's yeah so do you want to talk about tiny XP rerelease first or do you want me to talk about first is um yes so I'll basically i think there's called a lot of people of god it's firstly the name so it's going to be the official name is actually tighten x with the lowercase P now that's confusing because the last Titan X the official name was just tied an X and the one before that was tiny X that's the mascot at the Maxwell and the Pascal but because people we didn't want to confuse people or when we were talking about it we and by we I mean people in the tech community added the P on there so it's unofficial name for the second time next was the time XP now when video has just made that even more confusing by making this one's official name the Titan XP so it's just so confusing if you're a retailer and someone came in to buy one of these or maybe they already had one and they want to know the difference they're just going to be so confused I'm trying to buy one so the naming scheme for I just don't get it's not that hard to change a name you could make it if you want to stay with the eggs I thought the Titan XXX would be awesome you know XXX you enjoy need you and your porn really poor basically it sure sounds badass though time XXX though that sounds awesome um yeah and it makes sense as well because it's the third time next so there's three X's I just thought that would be okay but the but I just I don't get it anyways moving past the name ah it's got more cooter cause you're going up to 3840 ah the memories been bumped up as well and yeah it's just add the clock speeds gone up a little bit but in general it's it's just a bump up it's sort of a rebrand of sorts so there's that side of it again they're going to be charging a premium price for it which I think also upset a lot of people considering the price point now that the 1080 TI is coming in um which the performance between the two I can't imagine will be very big so yeah this will be interesting I mean it's got more cuda cores than the the 1080 TI but memory wise there it's got a bit more bandwidth as well so that will help but will people actually be willing to pay that extra money over the 1080 ti or this Titan XP the new one and i'm not sure if they will now nvidia have also done a lot of marketing stuff seeing this one's for deep learning and things like that which okay and as a mac support now as well so that's good i suppose but yeah not really I I think a lot of people are a little bit disappointed by this and I think it is just nvidia trying to extend the lifespan of pascal for about as long as they possibly can before volta you know what do you think oh yeah right yeah so I just think like they should have just caught the most logical name for this would be the Titan x3 right that I would of course no confusion put XXX bit of a porno named ty next to you like okay this jewel dpu GPU tight next three would have been fine I don't know why the Internet's ranting so much though I think it's an over rent I've never recommended a Titan before in my life I probably won't be recommending one based on its price performance which isn't that good then it's been going crazy I mean look if you bought a Titan X the original XP you've had that for eight months you've had those bragging rights for eight months eight months is pretty long in the GPU world and then they've read every re-released it and you've now got ten percent more performance pretty much that's what I'd guess to me ten percent more for eight months that's and that's really not bad i mean you're not screwing over the original Titan XP buyers I don't think they're getting screwed over they're not they're getting in for when they buy that graphics card so ah yeah that's just mostly I just would agree i think i think it's just over there was an ovary a be able just ranting left right and center is like is in video guys they make money that they do business Titan Titan the especially the Titan brand is the brand that is the rip-off brand it's like no two ways about if they did this on a 1080i and then release the 1080 ti2 or something yeah I could understand because we're gamers man we like that price performance in you okay you're screwing over the original 1080i owners but on that note I've actually just tested this out here just review the Auris this thing is so damn good like wow it's going to pretty much this thing out of the box will pretty much be the same speeds as a Titan XP this new one it's I'm going to talk about in the review it's got the power limits like up to one hundred and fifty percent so it's much higher than the founders edition and you'll see in the benchmarks i'm going to show because i've done all the benchmarking I've done them after you actually cut the video and stuffing she go to make the video and uploaded which takes ages but it is performing a good ten percent ahead in a lot of cases against my founders edition with the accelero cooler on it in games it's just a beast the power targets there when I'm looking at the figures post benchmarking I'm getting up to like a hundred and forty percent 141 percent power target being hit in games so that is a real limiting factor on the original founders edition card so the Auris is legit like it's only an extra 50 USD over the 700 USD founders edition card so it's bend it's just the cream of the crop and that's going to pretty much be the same speeds as a twelve hundred dollar cut being just released now so that would be the car to get if you're an enthusiast of course you're going to be using up and it not much more power considering the titan XP is going to have those extra unlocked cause but yeah i think you're going to be getting your money's worth for sure if you buy those bend 10 ATT is there going to be awesome for overclockers so hopefully nvidia doesn't take too much notice of this and doesn't nerf the next TI variant that comes out that who knows ya know exactly so i think that's really good and I think that's what everyone was looking forward to and the fact that these non referenced natt eyes are just going to be ridiculously powerful I'm going to be doing showdowns with them very soon I have seen quite a few of them already around so yeah that are we really really fun to do but these are really powerful cards and that's what I mean I mean you you summed it up very well well yeah will people still buy this new time in XP when you could just buy one of these really good model non-reference natt is and just overclocked them like crazy and because remember that tide and line up they only you can only get them in the reference there's only the founders edition that's not like there's non-reference versions for you to buy so obviously with the non referenced natt is they'll have all the upgraded components and all the other fun stuff on them that allow you to do those massive overclocks and yeah I think performance wives it'll be exactly the same or very close to it so it does beg the question the video wouldn't release it unless they thought it would sell but well weist whilst being quieter and cooler as well these aftermarket cool is this one here is a 1 kilo cooler on its own like a detach it from the PCB and backplate it's like 1020 grams it's huge actually monster of a cooler reminds me of the Lightning days I like that that cooler was one of my favorite so a Titan XP but speaking of re-releases will go into this the RX 518 570 these are pretty much exactly the same thing a rerelease of your graphics cards your rx 470 and 480 yet why isn't the internet going stupid over this yeah I mean this is I guess because it was I'm not sure I'm always may be expected oh man this gpu-z shot like seriously that it's like someone had this on the lowest res model they could find and then took it on the lowest res camera they could find I haven't seen it like it's being compressed a whole bunch of times this is just something that's being regurgitated like a rear ender like four times over I haven't seen a screenshot this bad in a long time like 10 yards that's pretty shocking say yeah this is quite um yeah the only real changes that we can see so GPU wise it's exactly the same that 582 the 480 will be the same and the 572 the 470 will be the same in terms of the amount of cause or MD putted stream processors team use wraps you know everything's the same so basically always seeing going from the 480 to the 580 is a clock speed bump up so the 1266 reference speed for the 480 gets bumped up to 1340 and so that's pretty good there that's it that's a decent jump up nearly a hundred megahertz and then the face the 470 to the 57 year this is actually we will probably see a bit more of a difference now the clock speeds have only gone up slightly from 1206 to 12 24 the main difference here is that the memories gone up from 60 600 megahertz to 7,000 megahertz that's a smart decision that's actually pretty it's that's pretty pissed week for a jump actually that that is the domain is still less still small it's not like what we saw this is definitely much less than if you remember back to the 200 series we jump from the 292 90 x 2 319 390 eggs and that actually changed GPUs kind of they change the name it went from Hawaii to Grenada and basically the Grenada G views were just a bit better bend you could get a bit better of a clock Salem they used a bit less power TDP went from 300 watts to 275 and there's a few things but the main benefit there was the memory jumped up a lot that is like a thousand megahertz jump up and memory speed and also the memory doubled from four to a so as we got we're even jump benchmarks wise you got about ten percent more to like when I was looking at benchmarks this looks like five percent at best that's like it's a pretty looking like a pretty pissed week rebrand I mean come on the internet warriors if you're going to blast in video for the re-release of the tine XP which is giving you more won't you blast this where's your videos you know like it's it just seems like it's just okay let's hate on in video nvidia makes money their business but this is the exact same thing a bit worse in my opinion because it's a mainstream card yet you know people this just goes ignore day as it's no problems I mean I don't really care about it that's exactly I don't bother ranting but just point now just point out you know no I get what you're saying and it is exactly right so maybe the non reference models of this these are the reference specs we'll take that even higher in terms of clock speeds and stuff like that maybe you'll see a big jump up kind of reminds me of the 280x a over the 7970 it was that same GPU the Tahiti but you got a the toy DX was basically gigahertz edition 7970 so yeah that'll be interesting the only other interesting thing I saw was at the RX 480 the reference models if you guys remember back here just the single 6 pin power connector the reference by baby will have an 8 pin power connector now you may remember back to the power type issues if you go through a 6-pin you get 75 watts and you go through the PCI that's another 75 and there was some problems there so it looks like AMD of sort of just decided to go with an eight pen and just completely you know so you don't need to worry about that so maybe the power limits wise at least on the reference models might be a bit better but all the non reference weight than anyway so I don't really think it'll make too much of a difference unless you're upgrading from a reference for e2 reference 580 maybe there's like one guy out that's going to do that only very curious to see if the putting a 6-pin in this will work still because I did it on my RX for some of those RX for 70s I've done it on another graphics card as well I think back in Japan I had one with an a penis like I tried another 12 and get all those cards six pins were working in the 8-pin slots now you just plug in a 6-pin and the graphics card still works I'm really curious to see if this rx 580 will work with just a 6-pin I've got a feeling it will it probably will yeah you're right it's just kind of begs the question of why would anyone ever do that because it's easy enough just to put an eight but if you could get the six pin in you could probably get the apron and so it would just be there to give you that bit extra I mean a lot of people did complain about the power limitations on the reference for 80s but the non reference for 80s were a very good step up from the reference for 80 so yeah I'll be interested but i mean i'll be doing a lot of showdowns with these 5 80's and five 70s as they're coming out with a few new and the bullet partners making new colors and new models for them as well upgraded models and so that'll be interesting also i think it will breathe a little bit of light into it if you're a current 480 owner or something i doubt there will be any reason to upgrade but if you were so on in the market for one of those mid-level that value for money tear graphics card then waiting around for these new ones to come out especially price-wise they're the same yeah you could probably get yourself a good deal or the fact that many retailers will be probably clearing out there for 80 and 470 stock you might be able to get a good non-reference for 80 on special or something if they're just trying to clear up this stop that's what i'll sing in a 470 or 480 on special to be the way to go I mean I loved the 470 I've been a big fan of the 470 since it was released it's a really kick-ass budget value card it just kicks absolutely ask for what it is four gigabytes of RAM is cut in my opinion that fergie bouts of vram is perfect for 1080p gaming where it sweet spot is coupled with the noun G 45-60 as another reason why like a lot of the times when I'm hunting for use parts it is this no point in buying some of these parts because the new parts coming in are just bringing the competition so hard ever since the G 45-60 was released in the art for sixth of RX 470 gtx 1060 when these cards were released it's just like a massive shake up to the youth cheap especially the youth GPU section and now with the G 45-60 the new cpu CPUs and stuff like that so crazy crazy crazy but here we go we got the next article here risin five so we don't know any details until the NDA lifts but I've actually saw this YouTube video where this guy just mean didn't give a about da he was showing the bias pics and everything I'd have to find the video again but he was just overclocking he goes like 3.8 goods and he was comparing it against some of the lowest skew i5 and i7 s and I 705 I think and yeah it was doing pretty well it was doing really well so we've got confirmation here the risin 5 can be overclocked to 4 gigahertz so that's looking like it's pretty much in line with the horizon r7s as well a lot of those are hitting around for 3.92 4 gigahertz cinders to be the topping out points there yeah but what about you with your cpu's I mean I've found about yet 3.9 with my 1700 x 2 4.0 25 so it's pretty it's pretty good late that the margins are tight like there's not a wild variance oh yeah yeah that's for sure no I got full gear it's out of um when I finished my rows and five test rig I tracked the risin seven seventeen hundred and just to make sure everything get everything sorted in preparation for Rosen 5 and I ever got that guy just because why not just to see how much I could get out of it and just like every single other one i jested i got 4 gigahertz out of it and it wouldn't do 4.1 no matter what i did put the voltage up to 1.45 and it just wouldn't happen so yeah there that they just seem to like to sit around that I would say for the usual owner if you've got a rise and 7 or you think about buying one expect hope for 4 gigahertz that's kind of what most people should be getting but you may end up with one that can only go to 3.9 if you're really unlucky you'll get one that only goes to like 3 point 8 45 but yeah I think I'm I think this is what a lot of us expected out of reisen 5 so that the overclocks are not that spectacular by comparison to say kb lake but we will just have to see because price point wise it is very aggressive to price points these are coming in at and i think the other thing that's really important is how the testing is done for rice and face so I can only see speak for myself but I have really thought about this and because of issues with Nvidia's Direct X 12 drivers and rising I decided to not do any Direct X 12 benchmarking when I do my raison five showdowns because I'll be running the GTX 1080 which is the most powerful graphics card I have available to me the reason why we run these powerful cards is because we don't we want to eliminate that GP bottleneck so I won't be doing any Direct X 12 testing it'll just be Abdullah sleep productivity testing like normal cinebench and break all that fun stuff 3dmark but also gaming and all the games will just be direct x 11 to make sure there's no funny business going on with in regards to nvidia's Direct X 12 drivers keep it nice and fair for you well I just I honestly I don't believe in DX 12-year falken is so good like doom showed what Volcom was really about I actually played through doom with Vulcan on I love it it's it's good every time i boot up to him I'm like changing it to Vulcan I haven't played any games yet where I've wanted to switch to dx12 every time I turn it on I get crashing or just freaking stuttering that's not there on dx11 I don't like why test the game if it's running like on dx12 it doesn't make any sense so I'm kind of with you on that like I won't be doing much DX 12 testing unless people really want to see it and even then it's like okay who's using dias 12 at the moment on what game because I love to see a game admittedly I haven't tested every game on TX 12 yet but all the games are teslim TX 12 after playing on it for a couple of minutes I've just reverted back to desk 11 I couldn't wait to revert back because again even both an AMD and nvidia graphics card didn't matter on the graphs card just ran like on both so that's something with dx12 at the moment I'm kind of really waiting to see the real benefits of dx12 volk and we already know that runs awesome that's like I just wish they would focus on Vulcan instead of dx12 I'd love ya I mean we would like to see that a bit more um but yeah that the Rosen five testing will be very interesting i think also the other thing i change this time was if you guys watch my last showdowns with rose and seven i was mainly running the memory at 2133 megahertz on both systems the Intel and AMD system this time around I'm going to be running 2933 memory on the risin system and probably like 2800 or whatever I can get on the Intel system and I think that will be quite good as well because a lot of people are talking now about how the memory speed the high memory speed really benefits rising because the infinity fabric so um yeah that'll be something else i'm doing this time as well as making sure all my rides and five testing is with the memory at the decently high clock speed and so there's basically this is going to be favorable well not favorable but i would say on it makes rising I'm trying to make this as fair as possible and playing to all the strengths of rising so having the fast memory no dx12 testing and all those things and we'll see how it comes out then with the comparisons that i'll be doing to certain I sevens and I fives yeah absolutely it should be testing all four rice and chips just look at this this was from hard ocp they were using level low level 5 load lake calibration I think a lot of times that's the lowest setting especially you know I recommend using the highest level or the level 1 below the highest because the vedra you don't want that so that their 1.45 volt might be dropping down to 1.38 1.37 and that's right about where three-point not 3975 or whatever 3.97 5 gigahertz or 4 gigahertz is about sweet spotted so they might have been able to get a higher if they were using level 1 at 1.45 volt so I think that just pointing that out if you guys are overclocking always make sure you and you've got a decent power supply of course level five is if you've got a pretty bad power supply because some of those power supplies they just they're not that's stable in their ripple and whatnot so you load them up and then they just go above like yeah the 12 volts actually pushing out 12.2 or whatever it's just their terrible power supplies and so that's why that was always there that spec that standard was the counter act pretty poor gear but nowadays with power supplies being so good and motherboard VRMs being so good you can just bump that to level 1 or level 2 and you're still going to have just a smooth power delivery all the way there's not going to the sooner be no spikes per se so that's where that speck was always it is so just pointed that out there um X 2 99 we're going to change move straight into it because we want to get on the q18 to don't make it to longer show even though a lot of people miss the show thanks guys so bench dot life the Chinese website this is the chinese website and they're known for very accurate intel related leaks have said that x 2 99 is coming for computex that's what they're saying yeah so thief so instead of being early August it's going to be the fourth week of june so looks like intel has moved it up but quite yeah wait a bit which is interesting for them i don't think i've seen them do that before well it's gonna it's like it'll be showcased at computex but it looks like it'll hit in the fourth week Joe they're saying june nineteen to twenty fifth so they're actually call it sky like x processes to yeah I mean I'm not too interested in this at the moment like I'm really looking out if there's an intel cpu that i'm looking forward to would be that six core mainstream cpu because it's going to have the latest IPC it's going to be six cores hopefully overclock better then its other six chords the 6800 k and its predecessor the 58 20k that's the one I'm looking out for really looking forward to that one to see how it goes if it's a wild six core if it's just a tame six core I want the wild how about you keV yeah i mean i'll be looking for sure and obviously both of us will be doing a lot of testing unless those six scores i mean the thing is this is where Intel really needs to hit back because risin decimated broad well II basically i mean i run Broadwell ii and i run rise is this note yeah there's no two ways about if someone came to me right now I was like yeah I'm buying I'm going to be building a rig for productivity and gaming which cpu should I buy I would you say rice rice and seven for sure because Y in terms of just pure value for money it's just so much of a better deal um so yeah for sure that the I feel like Intel is a little bit panicked by risin I think they didn't expect it maybe to be as good as it was so now they're moving up the release date because it's decimated the Broadway Lee line so badly i mean the sales must have gone off a cliff now um they're probably going to be trying to bring this up so it can launch on this new platform with i'm guessing a whole bunch of new stuff we don't really know too much here and obviously with these new cpus that should be I mean it's going to depend on the price point um if Intel's going to stay with these very high prices that we've obviously gotten used to with say haswell-e and broadway lee then I have really don't know how you know how well it's going to sell because there's rice and sevens are just such good value if they're going to bring these out with these high price tags again um it's going to be a very hard sell to try sell a six-course guy like x cpu or kb like x cpu and against an equal rising seven that might be a hundred dollars two hundred dollars cheaper depending on where you live which might have even better performance still so they're going to have to be pretty smart about this i think the price the prices will have to be much more competitive this time around now that they actually of competition and yeah I think that'll be very interesting there but the X 2 99 the platform will probably be the most interesting thing that I think a lot of us will be looking at in terms of what's new because I mean x 99 has been around such a long time now and that this would be really cool so yeah that's what I'm looking forward to the most the sky like a I'm looking forward to seeing how it overclocks that's the simplest thing for me it fit overclocks well if you can get a 6-core in an eight-core up to pretty high frequencies much higher than brought Willie if I can GU has Willie frequencies and I've actually be pretty good for them especially for people looking for that extra edge there's I know a lot of people out there who want to get the extra productivity out of their systems and they don't mind spending the extra money they're writing it off on tax or whatever doesn't matter the business expense they want to do business faster and better they can do it with the better productivity so if you use them or not so yes risin offers amazing value for money but again people are always looking for the best regardless doesn't matter what industry you're in so is it going to be the best there is it going to be just a little bit better than what's out there that's what I'm looking forward to seeing I honestly think I hope they don't pull another broad well II and that you can't overclock these things that I because the 58 20k versus the 6800 k that was a joke in my opinion here you had one cpu that was hitting 4.5 4.6 gigahertz then they released the 6800 k and it's only getting 4.2 4.3 it's kind of like what what's the point of this cpu especially for enthusiasts for enthusiasts it's like wow okay my 58 20k is getting higher overclocks is not even worth getting the 6800 k you know I picked up some of they picked up a bargain on him 658 20k go for 250 bucks when the 60-hour k was released so it was like okay this was awesome I'm about yes yes I think that's a very very good point so if these skylights gave you like chips are really good overclockers as well as having the IPC improvements and everything over broad well II our broad well general I think it'll be quite good it's just again they will yeah this will be very very interesting and this is the reply that I think a lot of people will be looking forward to in terms of how Intel replies to rising and this will be the one everybody's watching however if if they're rushing it now if you guys can remember back to an ex 99 first launched I can remember back then and there was a lot of issues back then sort of like what we've seen now with x3 70s and B 3 50's some of them ah and if they're rushing x 2 99 and it comes out and we have a repeat of x 99 then that's going to be a little bit annoying to a lot of people as well so let's hope they don't rush it too hard and throw these out um when they're not honestly low a lot of pretty a lot of people bleh max 99 on intel i'd say that more souls on the board partners i mean i tried the asrock board stable as other board partners were having real big problems I don't think yeah a lot of people just blame Intel for that sleep know if as Walker getting it right and the other guys are getting it wrong then doesn't it kind of the owners for a little bit on the motherboard manufacturers here so I nothing but bliss after i got an asrock bought in and started with 58 20k i was like bang this is really good and you got to remember that was the first release of ddr4 memory too that was on ddr4 memory first came out so true yeah yeah that's what actually going to segue into the next article here so the next generation of ddr5 memory is going to be released to actually understand is going to be finalized in 2018 but as the article points out ddr4 was actually finalized in 2012 and it didn't go mainstream until 2015 Bertram actually 2014 with x99 so that was when ddr4 so this is that two-year delay so we could see ddr5 based on that if we're going to do historical analysis here we'd say that ddr5 memory is going to come out in 2020 so that's quite a long way away as three years away it's like when reisen was first Zen was first touted in the public in 2014 it was like oh my god AMD's making this that lovers ages ago yeah you know oh man that was crazy three years ago I don't three years ago oh yeah banas being a sucker that's all been a soccer three years ago a little bit besides that I think I think this week why interesting yeah I'm ezzy article says guys there's no relation to gddr5 if that's what you might have been thinking and but there is there is you take away the G and then you've got ddr5 bro so yeah this would be this I mean I I think not many people I would maybe I speak for myself they're beasts I'm not like waiting for ddr5 I think ddr4 has is still very very solid um I think the main thing I think people looking forward to is pcie four point oh um that would be really good we actually thought it might be coming out with X 2 99 I doubt that it seems like it would be too quick for it and but probably after that we can start expecting it maybe towards the end of this year definitely next year and that will be very very cool to see because we've been on pcie 3.0 for when did that come out can't even remember yeah being up for a while now I I just want to say do you take away the g which is gangster and then you've got dank doll we dug ram 5 that's what stanza so I never knew that thanks for this is rich kidding a lot that was great so sorry I lost focus before what were you what were you alluding to alluding to no it's just saying I'm do you think that's what are you looking forward to pcie four-point-oh by comparison to something like this like I think that'll be much more interesting going forward yeah pcie for would be more interesting actually they're both good they're both going to be pretty good they're both upgrades pca before i'm more looking forward to it for the mainstream platforms where we do have limited amounts of PCI Express ports like for instance with my Rosen 5 my card is now on pcie 3.0 16 8 speed so kind of like mmm if it was busy a four-point-oh you wouldn't have to worry because you're doubling up on the speeds again so that is something I'm looking forward to anything is always a better thing of course as PC is three point 0 16 is 16 X is just perfect you're not going to saturate that for quite a long time though the way things are going with forty percent gains every year thirty five percent gains every year two years time you could probably see yourself saturating that maybe I mean I don't know I've have to just whether you could do the test you do the test right but again higher speeds is always a better thing so bring it on ddr5 bring it on pcie four-point-oh bring it on looking forward to them there always are upgrades I'm wonder what they're going to do if they're gonna really start afore I know that was in the water works but they I think yeah with the you know the implementation of nvme and whatnot I think there's like kind of like a look that's kind of forget about sorrowful and now some of the big views here do you want to add anything else on that or not no that's fine go so got some big news Peter destiny to all these my brother's telling me this is the hugest news ever destiny to pc so it's coming to pc destiny one didn't definitely will come to pc and apparently it's going to have crap cross-platform play as well for the multiplayer so this is going to be one of those huge games where hopefully pc masterrace Lord saviors of the world can combat their console peasant you know antagonists and whatever sworn enemies or whatnot so we're pretty cool but besides that I'm really looking forward to the game I haven't actually seen much gameplay footage yet so yeah they've just had a reveal trailer so far but it looks like September eighth is what we're looking at for destiny 2 i'm definitely going to give it a whirl and it's looking like it will be released on Steam too so that's a really cool thing so you can jump into steam start playing the game you'll have fact there as well so hopefully it weeds out a lot of hacks I know there was a lot of concerns about destiny to and hackers because pc is obviously a much easier platform to inject tax into as opposed to consoles so maybe it's each to their own on see probably con sauce probably easier because you just feel like people do on these little but my brothers tell me about some people having these land switches where they like switch on and off or something and it's just they create this artificial lag and then they just like teleporting and killing people so ah never ah apparently it's the thing so but you get banned for it and if you get banned you get banned for life so yes it's good Jesse to are you looking forward to it I'm really looking forward to it like actually looking forward to it I can't say I am really I never really got into that franchise but um yeah I mean if it's if it it turns out being as good as that's you know people hyping it up to be then maybe I'll start getting into it yeah well the one thing that was a one thing I tried I tried it with the consoles Ivan brothers like get into it man i had a ps4 and I tried it and I used that Mouse convert a thing and it was sort of retarded like I just was like wow this is this is crap so I want my bc smooth mouse rates of whatever though it was just so bad i tried on the console i moving my mouse around like this sucks this sucks this sucks I just rage quit after it is yeah it felt like that was input lag being introduced all sorts of crap coming on there with those controllers so yeah I just wanted on pc so it looks like they bring it to pc it's still going to be a ps4 exclusive though we're ps4 gets content out before the other two platforms so yeah are you guys looking forward let us know in the comments are you looking forward to destiny 2 for pc think it'd be really cool it can be a shake-up better graphics and and nothing I will talk about what's digital unveils their first portable SSD and CSS these will come down in price and I'd love to have a portable SSD I think now we've got those USB 3 which are with the really high speeds yeah 3.1 gen2 yeah like I've got this kingston savage here this is really good it's got a great burst rate on it so the birth rates fantastic on this thing but it does slow down after a little while so i'd love to see one with consistent you know 5-under make about speeds over there's USB 3 ports that'd be awesome so yeah I mean this would be pretty crazy the prices will still in there seeing us 400 bucks for the one terabyte 200 bucks for the 512 and hundred bucks for the 256 so obviously scales pretty well uh hum with the prices but yeah it's still quite a bit when you compare that to a mechanical drive um like one of the western digital ones you could probably get a oh I have no idea but you could probably go out much larger in terms of capacity for a similar price points but of course you lose the speed there and that is the main downside so yeah I think this would be pretty cool if they keep doing this and the prices are coming down I think this really shows the benefits of USB 3.1 gen2 so yeah this it's good that it would be taken full advantage of it and I think a lot of people who are wanting fast maybe for guys like us if we're trying to quickly move over files from one test system to the other you know large files maybe move over a game or something like that to your friend's computer to to your friends yeah yes I think it could be very useful for some people out there but um I would say at those price points they are good in terms of when you're looking within the SSD market but when you compare to the overall sort of external drive market that is a pretty penny to pay for the luxury of that speed and of course you have to make sure that your motherboard supports that USB you know if you're on older motherboard it's not going to be able to support you know my only support USB 3.0 or no I'd not even have that still gonna be absolutely fine over USB 3 you'll get even not even 3.1 you should be able to get really good speed so I think I like the hundred-dollar version the 256 key but obviously that's MSRP you probably get a bit cheaper 9080 whatnot so I could really use one of these things because I'm capped at 64 gigabytes of this thing at the moment and of course the speed slow down after massive transfers so something like this is looking pretty good apparently Samsung already have one out as well they've got a model out so it's always a western digital vs samsung thing at the moment it looks like they're pretty they're clashing heads a lot and might have check that out but I could really use one of these in my life it would be really cool again you get those faster speeds which one you need it just when obviously a lot of people would be like you know have a good network setup and you just plug into the network plug into the matrix and copy your files over with Smith support you know yeah you have to use an adapter though if you guys are running Taipei ports I'm you'll have to run an adapter because it's set up for our type sea ports so keep that in mind this time you have to be pulling out their depth is to make that work and then there's of course this is portability it's going to be SSDs it's gonna be so small she's gonna sip no power so really looking forward to that so you just plug it take it around with you everywhere it be a little power be a little friend much more much more i guess convenient than a external hard drive even the 2.5 the big ones because you got to be careful with those things you can't exactly shake him around I've dropped an SSD actually quite a few times and they're just dead tanks you don't want to drop you don't drop a hard drive and then the thing will be gone now it'll start making first of all when you drop a hard drive what happens is make it starts making a weird noise and you're like that'll go away over time but then it just gets worse and it gets worse and then all the sudden you like are pure almond so under mat is so non-dramatic it's like oh just died yeah I mean by one when it died my seagate barracuda i just went to yeah I get files of it one day and then go into my computer or my pc now physical it and and it just disappeared it just wasn't there anymore thank y'all dance so it's a slow what's going on here um and yeah that thing just all of a sudden name just fine fine fine and one day gone gone skis even be sent out that's how it happens it's how it happens first sign of a slow down guys if you go hard drive first signs of weird noises weird problems back up your files if you haven't they've yeah I've seen this before with countless people Brian my dad is gone help me and it's like I can't help I can't resurrect a dead drive i'm not a necromancer guys well sir that's I've seen that one too many times they always have double like crucial files always have them double backed up so just before we get on the QA i will say thank you guys so much for the patron support i also got a donation for half a grand USD it was huge i was like wow yeah so thank you so much for you guys supporting the channel it's really appreciated I really do appreciate it so much like and you don't have to i mean i get by you know doing things i just i will and deal i hustle I'm always working on the grind and I do appreciate so much it does help a lot thank you guys so much but of course if you guys are you know struggling don't don't donate any money you know if you guys are in if you guys are on the ground like me I don't want you to donate money yeah I would just keep grinding and grinding and harder and harder so I'm a grinder bro that's what I am that's what I do I grant is it so what is the worst mistake you guys have made whilst building a pc tech one ass you want to get first uh yeah um hey so my one I haven't really made any real shockers um not that i am aware of but i've made a few like stupid little mistakes probably the the funniest one was when the gtx 970 s9 80s and that all came out that was the start of the like zero decibelle technology with a fan wouldn't always be spinning the fans would turn off and so a lot of the graphics cards because people weren't you really didn't know at that time that that was a thing and a lot of them didn't have the indicators which we have nowadays which see fans stopped and stuff on the side a lot of them they would put like stickers over the fans that you get to rip off before you install them which said you know if the fans aren't spinning that's fine it's part of this new technology all that stuff the msi at the time the 970 i believe it was um that if this big sticker saying that over just one of the fans towards the back of the car and i didn't realize that sticker was on there i think i was in a rush and I just whacked it straightening my rig I booted up and I was checking out the temperatures making sure everything was fine and I hey and I was wondering why just one of the fans of spending really hard and the temps were really high and I was like ah this heart must be broken or something's wrong with it so I pulled it out to your name spatial I realized I'd pulled off the sticker so only one of the two fans was actually spinning and it was the important one that's over the GPU died so that wasn't really good but there was I never made that mistake again but there was not really my worst mistake but probably the stupidest one I made basically the only really dumb mistake I've made but i can think of when building a pc like I always rip stickers off everything but I know for instance my brother man he doesn't rip any of those stickers off so he would have came into the same thing there's people out there that just don't like to rip stickers off anything I've seen countless people who have their smartphones and they haven't pulled that initial sticker off and it's not a protective layer it's just because they don't eat like fingerprints on the glass screen or something so it's understandable that's not really like mistake per se it's kind of like just one of the things if you're a I guess OCD about cleanliness of your tech or if you like mean really casually I want to use this I want all the stickers off no I don't like stickers unless they're like transformers stickers then they're pretty cool so West would say I've made probably be when I was next two thousand seven when I'd p5q multiple what else you sighs I don't know what I was doing but there's still live power going through the computer and I was just like I'm playing I like a and I just take this thing off and then playing around with the fan or something and like you do you know live fans I got a video on the 1080 TI review i'm playing around with a live fan too for the wind but you just dropped the screw driver fell on the rig sparks just went everywhere and i was like oh you know i was just like whoa this is real computer shut off with the safety mechanism that's why it's always good to have a good power supply guys the thing will shut off straight away at that point of time I was like damn something is definitely broken here but sure enough left it for a good 10 minutes we went outside had a breather I came back inside and booted up computer still worked and that's why i love the old school of Zeus motherboards it's why I love the old school gigabyte motherboards there was built like brick a--'s they were so tough dare I'd say you do that on a motherboard nowadays thing we've blown up we gone so they've put really good components on some of those lga775 motherboards so that's just what you got to look forward to no no don't have to look forward to that's what you had to look forward to in those days it was just really cool yeah but of course those are the heat pipes as well but that's the thing wasn't it like really am like it was a mistake that I busted the heat pipes but I had to get that into that case because I didn't wanted to hack up the case the thing is hacking up the case wasn't an option because I was going through customs and I've already been scanned through customs with pcs before they are really anal retentive if you're going through with a hacked up case man it's just going to cause problems so hacking up the case wasn't an option I getting a smaller GTX 1070 wasn't just me like it was at the time in Japan it was like an extra hundred dollars for a 1070 that was the cheapest 10cm it just went on specialized I are pulling the trigger don't really care if it fits or not I'll make it fit that was my attitude and if it yeah if the cool is my intention was to replace the cooler with something I had no no I had a heap of coolers and yeah thus if one just worked so well I was surprised at how well that worked in the end and have fitted in the mini ITX case it was really cool I worked out so that was like a six dollar cooler I picked at a junk been thinking one of my previous vlogs it was ages ago but that's why I always pick up bargains and always recommend people if you come across a bargain and you're kind of like always building computers and it's your passion never pass up a good bargain because you never know when you might need it that cooler that's this cool that I got it was just really cool dark side Jedi it was just bad ass I know people say at scythe I just let census is that is he gonna hate me for that I say think so like bad sometimes like a zoo so I'm never gonna change like Asus man it's ASIS it's like not to Zeus get used to it so if all our questions leaflet says he wasn't very clear he loves the channel in the direction that he likes of directions going and he just feel like the fun videos why he started for the channel yeah when I was full-on larrikin man that was I'm gonna bring that back of course that just takes time if the man behind the camera isn't right then the contents not going to be right and I've went through a lot of personal in the last year especially the last year man it's been really tough IRL and I know a lot of people don't care about the IRL stuff but if I'm not right IRL then the contents not going to be right so I'm finally getting back into the groove of things finally starting to get my mojo back been like okay I'm just gonna do a video the way I want to do it include a lot of Larrick and stuff in there the vlogs is one vlog a month i'm not going to stop doing that one vlog a month one use pc from the vlog parts that i pick up that's kind of like a ritual now people love it I love doing it I want to eventually in the next couple of months take on a real young guys he's been so keen to work with the channel is obviously going to be pretty cheap on the salary so hopefully when he comes on we can really get the videos out every single day bang bang bang content content content so that's what I've got to look forward to a new office going to ramp things up I promise you guys like these aren't and I don't make empty promises either so promise you guys that's going to get it's going to get up and running is going to get up running really really well really yes sir just quickly Brian yes sir we got a donation from Dylan 873 thanks bro so thank you so much chillin it's really cool um and he said I tried to put a gtx 770 and an i5 4460 on a 300 watt del psu the psu blew up luckily it didn't take anything with it yeah that was definitely stretching that she was it yeah blown up power supplies is always a fun thing though I've blown up one before never gonna do it again never gonna do it again never going to do it again cuz it made me sick like I was literally throwing up all day I was like what's this smell and it got worse and worse and then I finally realized the smoke coming out of the computer I was like oh and bang you know next minute bang power supply's gone and then after that after it blew out it made the worst smell ever and I was like because the middle of winter was pretty cold so I didn't know how'd the windows open it straight away opening the windows freeze my ass off started vomiting it was bad man so don't read don't use a cheaper power supply and don't use an underpowered valet two things can go wrong and by the way air it's pronounced the letter A ah you guys say it is a in Canada sorry hey but it yeah yeah a i'm going to go to Canada I still haven't been there yet I'd love to go I love the system's discussion about custom fan curves how do you set it differently for cpu versus GPU actually really good question Jonny what parameters to look out for when prioritizing one of the following three categories efficiency noise maximum cooling I'm going to go with number two for me it's about the noise for me there's a this is that there's just a line it's like bearable unbearable some fans just make these noises that are just so unbearable they usually reference fans by the way I find the larger the fan the less noise it makes in general and a lot of the coolers coming out and GPUs nowadays they're really quiet they're really good I absolutely love what a lot of the eighty percent the fans are on eighty percent a lot of the cars I've tapped the accelerators around eighty percent the Auris they're on eighty percent and they're just absolutely kickin us a descent the noise is a little bit noticeable but I can bear it so for me it's about the noise where I get those fans to before it starts becoming unbearable obviously if its maximum fans and it sounds like a jet engine I'm going to tune that down and then work from the noise it's weird because I haven't been I'm not an OCD guy about noise I like a bit of noise I don't mind a bit of a bit of noise but that's where i work from so i'll set a custom fan profile it's usually the same for the CPU and the GPU 50 degrees so after 50 degrees my fans hit seventy or eighty percent depending on the noise I test it out but turning on the card or the cooler before that Idol twenty percent so it's just whisper quiet and that's that's for me how about you with your custom fan profiles oh yeah it depends on what I'm trying to achieve there so it with things like reference model cards often times like things like I used to run a reference to 90 years my sort of spare graphics card and I would set a custom thank her for that because the stock one was just horrendous in terms of noise and in that I traded off noise or fan speed for temperature so I didn't mind it running like 92 93 degrees when I was gaming constantly um as long as it was staying quiet so because those things were just so damn loud but it's different for every person so if you have overclocks your graphics card or you know for example and you've overcooked it quite high then you might want to go through and see you know what temps is getting up to now with that stuff Bank of hake and I you know I've still got say 10 degrees spear before it starts throttling I'll maybe lower the fan curve a little bit to keep those noise down but then exchange they can't grow up another five degrees and you can make trades like that so I think your first thing the efficiency and sort of noise um I don't know me like anyone who would run their fans on like full bore because it's just ridiculous and you don't really need to even if you're overclocking there's no real need on a good GPU cooler there's no point really um so yeah I think that's yeah we kind of have to look at is get your over clocks and stuff set the way you want see how you're doing temps ways and then just kind of work off that you know do that trade of how we're gonna bring maybe the fan curved down a little bit to bring the noise down a little bit and in exchange your temps are going to go up a bit and just see sort of try find that balance and once you get it tuned in like I did with my reference to 90 really well I mean that thing which those when the tourists were being like a jet engine um that was a lot better than in terms of noise it was quite good but temperature wise it was getting very very hot but it wasn't throttling it wasn't going in 85 and throttling it was sitting 92 93 and would never go above that so we're still very very hot but not throttling and that was quite good as a balance so yeah that's what I would say is the best thing to do you just have to work off your temps that you have and then from the can figure out what sort of ones will do the best for you I mean the same goes for our cpu temps obviously as well yeah okay so yeah i'll see further on follows on with the gigabytes got the gigabyte a be 350 gaming three it features fan headers at different regions so sometimes with the different regions of the fan headers they're going to be either for pin or three pin for pin is pwm which then you can from the boss you can control the fan speeds manually if you've got the three pin you can use the noise adapter voltage things a like the noxious 12 volt 7 volt whatever that reduces the noise by a manual thing but you want to be hooking into the 4 pin headers then you can set your fan speeds with custom fan profiles is running the NZXT s 340 k so k is good with with the fan headers you only got three if you've got four fans three fan headers you might want to use a splitter usually two fans off one head is fine though if you're going with four fans like I've done in my rising workstation i'm using the water cooling fan header because it's got double the power doubled amps you don't want to overload a fan header too much because they can blow out there only right into a certain amp engine power rating so don't overload defendant it's too much but on ebay you've got those one dollar fence letters bang you can now hook up to fans off one header which is usually fine for 12 120mm fans obviously probably don't want to go with 200 mil fans off the same fan header but bang forehand for fans off those fan head splitters then you want to probably go with the water cooling fan header which I don't think is on the a/b 350 gaming three if I'm mistaken I have to double check that don't believe it on the X 370 though a lot of the X 370 ports they do have those fan headers with extra power available so even though they call the water cooling option they're really just fan headers with more power available so you can use a forehand for fan splitter on there and it works really effectively works really well good sources for custom cable sleeving if you guys are on ebay there's the gamer chief in Australia I don't know too much about international but the game achieve cables are so damn good they come pre like sleeved with these really cool combs in there that just makes life so easy I can't really I've got them like I've got a heap of them here and they were on special and they're really good value for custom cars leave cables and they really do bring up a build they really do cosmetically enhance a build of course a bit RGB here enhances of bill too but that's a subjective and so yeah do you think third parties will release code that will unlock disabled cause on the r5 series but i don't think so i think i think i and ii would have learned their lesson by now I mean 2017 if they haven't then I'm going to be extremely surprised and of course and of course buying out our fives yeah no I know exactly that's that's right just just going back I looked it up quickly about that motherboard for you Brian yeah it looks like it's running those that'd be 350 gigabyte it's running on the lots of those four pins and says up to sports up to two amps are belt built-in over current protection so that'll be great for you dude for all your whatever is your water cooling or whatever it is so that's going to be just solid so yeah run them splitters so the fact 1500 X will allow at 200 minutes xfr so xfr at the moment I I mean I've got to test it more but I'm really not a fan of xfr at the moment no neither so when you talk xfr I'm not really interested sorry sorry and Gary it's just the potential is going to the boss and manually overclock and get those manually overclocked set set in on all-cause because you know a lot of people like oh man i'm hitting 4.1 gigahertz on xfr boost and it's like they do a sinner bench run and the scores are way lower than mine 4 gigahertz overclock so it's kind of like it's for me I find xfr wasn't really doing much at all in the real way it's it does do the thing is that you guys alot of you guys I think forget is that it's not on all see we're using the 1500 X for the example oh that's a quad-core a thread cpu it's not going to be on all four of those cords the x-fi will be on a single core and it will take it two hundred megahertz higher usually yeah and it's the same as what we're seen on Broadway Lee for example you get the boost or the turbo speed and that will usually be on one or two of the cause um depending COC with the 6800 k trying to do it from memory that was it would go up to 3.8 on the first two cores and then the other four would be at 3.4 is that correct account remember you own the 6800 yeah so what uh yeah I think it was something like that so would go or it was 3.6 on the other four I can't remember but you guys see what I'm saying is that these it's not just for AMD so it's not like we're just picking on them it's that fact that these in general will only take it up on one or two cause we make say but come back and say well that's what's important you know for gaming and stuff that is true but at the end of the day would you rather have one or two just going up would you have all of them going up so then it's beneficial or even higher than the xfr and that's really what you want to see I know not only you guys will overclock and it's still good at the fact that exercise there is better than no except our but the difference isn't as big I suppose as Andy touted it at least this was my interpretation that the CPU is going to be like what we saw from a video with GPU boost three-point oh and that it would keep overclocking itself automatically until it reached like a thermal limit or a power limit or something like that so you would just like with NVIDIA GPUs you chuck them in and you might get three different ten 60s all the same model and one will go to 1980 another one a go to 2040 and other want to go to seeing 1920 you know there's a bit of that's an extreme example but there is that bit of variance ear I think I personally I thought that was going to be the case for rising as well that I would chuck one in it would go up to like 3.9 on xfr chuckanut wanna go through point of this not the case here it's just it's like Intel's turbo boost I was finding with the xfr was just doing the biggest Wesley's bro like it was on just like you just see it bang 4.1 key goes for like a micro 7 microsecond insane it drops it was ladies doing the biggest Wesley Snipes men like ever here is he was killing those movies back in the scene when he was doing little Snipes you know so yeah it's finals doing Wesley's on all these cores and you like wow what's going on here and this isn't a true boost so yeah not at the moment do some more testing but not too interested in it so when do you when you do the use builds or the mix use new builds I think prove you said you try to flip yeah I do flip them do you do it it it costs you build yeah so generally it's what I build them for so I just like to do the videos the videos is what makes it fun I usually sell them what I get them for in Japan I was marking them up a little bit in Japan because I could get the extra money for him because no one was doing it but ever since I've come back man the parts are drying up the it looks like it's a really it's a real hobby that's catching on so I'm having a lot of competition now so and yes people do know who they're by from like when I meet Phil are you do that dude you know they're like cool it cool and so that is really it is there's a lot of fun so it is a lot of fun doing it but it's just yet the competition is getting pretty high in the used parts in sir yeah hi guys I'm pretty keen on picking up an eight-core so spazzy wacky he says he's keen on picking on a call do you think there would be any advantage in waiting for the are fives to launch yeah of course I wait for an hour five I mean I saw the r7 go down ten dollars like that's still legit I mean of course they will go on sale you can pick them up and sell I love the eight core i7 17 hundred I think it's a good safe bet even picking it up now it's a great value for money CPU of course and I'm going to like the 1600 9x as well that's going to be my to TX yeah that's exactly what's about to say I be like dude just wait that's 1600 the price to performance I think will help do the 1700 out of all the risin ships that they're releasing that 1,600 I think my prediction right now will be the best in terms of price to performance I think that thing is going to be ridiculous for the price point it's coming in a seer I would definitely just wait see how good the 1600 does by comparison and then make your decision from there especially if you're not going to be doing any productivity stuff you were just going to be gaming then yeah definitely wait for rice and Parker come out well next question is actually pretty big so hungary he's waiting for these 1600 which is really cool but have you either of you noticed a dip in advertising revenue since restricted mode and all the drum with YouTube advertisers came about I've noticed a huge hit in just its the I don't I don't think it's so much the revenue has changed I think the algorithms changed ever since that happened and so my channels been getting smashed I think now youtube favors videos that are longer than 10 minutes I think that's just this set thing that comes in there so don't be surprised you just start seeing a lot of more videos being more than 10 minutes on my channel but because I was getting into this stage where i was making like six seven minute videos i was really enjoying it people were loving it because i just get to the point but now it seems like i have to stretch it out a bit because again it's like survival survival mode now you've got to do what's best for surviving if you want to keep doing this gig you know so it's kind of sad that this has happened it's really it has affected me I think some of my videos were coming up people were telling me that some of my pc builds up coming up is restricted i'm like why what the hell so it is affecting me I know it's affecting me I know it's affecting a lot of other youtubers out there who are just getting their monetization completely removed on videos and it's not fair it's not fair at all because this is that stupid article that the you know Wall Street Journal brought out it's like you can understand people a living off this and they're doing it as a job and it's you know if they've got a fair especially especially they got a family that depends on them like holy crap that's a real douche move you know is because you can't just get up and change the profession overnight okay that was very I think bad of them and they really blew it out of proportion the issues with adverts playing on may be inappropriate videos but the thing is that that that's what the leap they were making was ridiculous the advertisers obviously if a coca-cola read or something else goes on a less than appropriate video that doesn't mean that Coke endorses that video it's just their advertisement over the top of it they are not aware they're not specifically picking the videos it doesn't work like that and that's what made it's so stupid and that's what the Wall Street Journal really that was really I think it responsible and it you know I just think it was really bad the big guys on YouTube will be okay if you've got say a hundred thousand subs or more I think those people will obviously take a hit as Brian was just saying but they'll survive because it generals big enough it's those guys with under 100k or especially under thousand subs but say above 10,000 the people like me that's what a lot of people are saying those are the channels that will be collapsing because of this I and the people have to give up YouTube and go back to doing something else or they will have to drastically reduce the amount of YouTube videos they do and pick up work somewhere else or something like that and depending on how they have it set up so that's the that's the thing i think is why I'm harsh that they really didn't take into consideration but I in general I think the whole thing was overblown I think all the advertisers pulling out was maybe what they kind of had to do because it was like a chain reaction after a big one Wow but I still think it's bad and like that guy that wrote there's actually a lot more to that story with that guy I suggest you guys we won't talk about now because we're gonna free just but I suggest you guys look into the story a bit more if you're interested because that guy that wrote the article pretty shifty like there's a lot of stuff behind the scenes with him writing something else about it you know like this there's just a lot going on and see I think it's quite quite bad engine yeah parently apparently if you dig deep enough there's this guy with an algorithm fix who was trying to blackmail google or so yeah that's what is this painting and stuff like that there's a lot of funny stuff going on so that's pretty bad but yeah you guys if you're if you have favorite creators out there that you know they just know that they will be feeling the bite and if you want to support them then I suggest donating to them if you can or something like that especially the small guys out there that many you are probably subscribe to their under 100,000 yeah easy I guess the Underground's been affected the most like the underground you know I mean we like the independent content it's it's just what we do for a living and it's kind of like okay it's really infected a lot and what can we do I just got to keep grinding I can't do anything about it so yeah anyway so Maura says he's noticed really good questions this week two guys really awesome questions he's noticed a lot of aim for boards don't include jewel biases any ideas what is behind that surely it's not expensive to add that feature I'd say that they get the zero the X 370 chipset design and then it would probably be too time consuming or costly at this point of time to add in a duel by us just for them so you will see jewel biases released in future iterations of motherboards or revisions or what numbered I just think they had to I think the board I think everyone was rushed to the market you saw that with the coolers a lot of the companies didn't have those cooler fixes day one they were behind they were lagging behind big time so aim for was pretty rushed and with that became the jewel bias as well probably wasn't implemented early enough into the chipsets based design so that's something that I'd love to see a dual blast of course I know the benefits of a dual pass it's awesome to have so I was good to that safe just yet that's good I mean they have a lot a lot of them the asus boards and stuff have that crash less bias or I forget where their proper name is for it but basically like when I had that be 350 and it had problems when I was flashing the bios and then it bricked I still managed to using a USB in that recover the bias so you can bring them back that way but ideally you do want the jewel buyer so it is so much easier when you run into that from a and the all you do is just flick a switch and then especially especially if you're testing out custom bios you know hacked boss yeah yeah it's really odd to have and that's what I'm sure a lot of people will want to do with the r5's as well just to test it anyway so would you rather use a G 45-60 pentium and ten seventy or eighty seven seven hundred k and a 1054 the rest of the year just playing some games very good question group is one probably that pentium and the 1080 although yeah i'd go the pentium in the 1080 at 1440p ultra wide oh yeah gaming that is yes it was if it was productivity that I would start the reverse yep yeah hands down to agree excellent yeah yeah he's as an athlon x2 this is what we got a lot of questions when I start getting through these maybe just some snap snap answers here so he has an athlon x4 three gigahertz a negative SRAM what GPU would you recommend for me to use with to get decent FPS on your games i'd recommend overclocking this thing as far as you can if you can and of course it may be just something like a 460 or a 1050 or I'd use GPU use GPU would go really well with this and then you'd find a decent sweet spot where you could play like you know 1080p at decent settings you got anything done no no I would agree with that Grover's is going to be swapping out the motherboard next week and how should i go about cleaning the thermal paste off my i7 I don't have any alcohol or damn ok people say to use my thermal paste is only six months old so do I need it is there anything else I should watch out for when swapping motherboards depends if its competitive or conductive thermal paste if it's either of the two and/or then you'd want to clean it off properly if it's non conductive non capacitive just grab it easiest way as you soo grabs a tissue just quickly wipe off the thermal paste on the you know to the integrated heat spreader bang you're good to go and put your new thermal paste on even though it'll be a bit messy but you always recommend alcohol and alcohol wipes they're so useful in doing a proper clean up after torching just getting supposed to get either yeah it's not hard to get I superb like oh so you should be able to find it we live without too much hassle and and it does make a difference it does make it a lot easier yeah comes off much easier when you use it but you don't have to it's like not like you absolutely have to use isopropyl alcohol but it will make your life easier if you do dragon Kurt he asks if either of us done a mineral oil pc i've seen one in the flash i haven't done one yet love to do what but again this it's kind of one of those things that would be very time consuming and i got no time at the moment unfortunately sorry man so x Turkana he said been requested in the show before by both of our hosts but i'll put it in print please refrain from answering the questions in oh yeah that's true yeah stop yeah i'll agree with ex Turk so no yeah we skipped a week to sorry guys yeah and coalition gaming he bought a discounted use x79 board that had bent pins which caused the gym not to work and they fixed it and so that the other gym works now yeah of course I've experimented with bent pins and yeah it does if you guys been pins back things can work again I've fixed motherboards from the dead by bending the pins back and then they work again completely work fine subsequently I've had boards that have just bad whatever that you can't be fixed as well so that's really cool that you got that working again I know you game is your main focus but a value opinion so what cpu would you recommend for a low-power multi-core processor for open media vault or x penology home nice build I is the am 53 55 370 worthwhile consideration ah the old um was that the two was it the you know court Cora like two gigahertz thing is the jewel corian sure I just recommend gone with the cheapest penny and man they're so cheap they could be under vaulted and they just they when you're under volta man under clock and they just sip so little power and the resale ability of especially of the G 45-60 would be really good too that's be my guess again I don't do a lot of work with NASA that's right up Wendell's Avenue with networking you know so much about networking you probably give you the best recommendations especially in these forums but me I'm always been like a like Windows Home Office noob cannon so with networking but it works hey I get results so it doesn't bother me so yeah that's at the end of day what it gets your results so lastly I can see for 2 terabyte refurb enterprises or see one thing I generally don't buys refurb drives if something's gone bad then chances are something else in the in the drive can be on its way out to that's why I generally one thing I don't buy refurbs refurb drive so I don't recommend really you can experiment with them dude but make sure you get some warranty on them so yeah I would just say get those WD Reds yeah yeah they'd be solid yeah so that's generally use use drives you just check them out if they work they do there's so many drive checking software so much Drive checking software out there they give you percentage values of the drives good or not and they can actually some drives can actually even sort of not fix the drive but help give it a longer life so anyway guys hope you enjoyed the show this week be sure to head over to the tech city TV / forum there if you want to ask questions for next week's episode I'm going to Sydney tomorrow to meet up with the one and only hardware on box steve has just been I asked him to come on the show today man and he was just so busy is just benchmarking benchmarking benchmarking so make sure you guys watch some of these videos because he's just been so flat-out benchmarking the benchmarking the Ferrari of benchmarking is at it again so we'll go we're going to meet for the first time tomorrow too and in Sydney so that's going to be really cool to be at this event for course there so if any you guys are in Sydney and you want to go to the event for corsair meet up with either me or Steve then make sure you be there we'll meet up and possibly even have a beer afterwards guys so as always love your work keV good stuff beautiful and loved all the viewers out there thanks guys for supporting the channel and watching the show as well if you made it this far and we will catch you guys next week and also put a link in description below foot Cavs channel and kept you have any closing statements before we get on out of here I know just uh thanks for watching guys I really appreciate it and you definitely hit over because I'm going to be doing the most showdowns I think I've ever done in one week with rising five so you guys definitely going to be willing to check those showdowns out okay sweet so he does all right guys beautiful beautiful love your work my beautiful no beard of a love your work mate all right guys we'll catch you next week peace out for now and by