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yeah it is - welcome back to the tech lounge episode 25 I'm joined by Kevin doing man I'm doing great Brian yeah that's is just you're doing great tech news what do you got I don't fantastic bro yeah now I'm just been getting through a lot of the backlog of videos how about you yes a man's always a backlog but I've been doing a lot of used stuff a lot of the audience love that stuff so I'm going to try and balance it out between the new and the used we've got a Rison build coming as well looking forward to do on that and of course there's just so much to do before Computex like there's another two weeks and a bit away from context and there's just so much to do so I've got to be so busy but I am man yeah I saw a video the other day was the use GPU once I couldn't agree more than I don't to 90s and 290 X's now as such good value on the use um card market it's just crazy are the really nice cards arm that was I mean there was a few cards like people like what about 750 Ti and what about this card it's like guys I mean it's a just top my top five picks like it's just what I would be looking for at the moment you know and you could get 750ti is brand-new for so cheap so they're not really going to be that much cheaper than they are for their new original price that they were selling for so yeah some fifty guys of course they're a good pick any graphics card is a good pick that's what I said in the video any graphics cards a good pic depending on the price it's always about the price that were just my recommended picks on what's kind of not getting searched for a lot I think and they're getting sold a lot so they're kind of like the cards to look out for as opposed to last time like the 7970 I recommended those but now everyone's looking for a 79 70 or everyone's looking for this card that card so there's not like the competition for it's just to like a little help you know help video really for people who want to buy use graphics cards not really like this is the best graphics card to get it's just kind of like now this is what I think a lot of people are selling and this is what I'd recommend searching for because I don't think a lot of people are actually searching for it all about supply and demand guys that's how the world works I think so yeah yeah that is true I think that the other really good one for our time was the 280x or at 7970 gigahertz addition I was seeing them go for really cheap really getting a bit sort of ancient now but oh yeah the bed to the 219 you know spear those are those are pretty good ones too yeah and a lot of I mean some of the recommendations of course come from the viewers as well not just my recommendation like I had someone message me about the GTX 460 now checked it out and it's like yeah these cards are actually are being sold quite a lot and they're really cheaper so on who wants to make like a csgo potato that'd be an awesome way to go um you know GTX 460 for the win in that case if they're twenty to get them for ten fifteen twenty dollars great pickup so yeah what about anything else like anything exciting coming your way I've actually got a 750 Ti here look at that nice last one bus yeah uh yeah there's going to be a video going up tomorrow that will be the 1600 X versus the 6800 K so a cord Accor rise and verse Broadwell e showdown I had not a cure with six chorus 12 threads on both sides so that one's good always interesting as well yeah man the 1600 X will be interesting are the the yeah the 1600 is definitely so far with all my rice and testing and I've tested every single rice and CPU that has been released the 1600 for me anyways is by far the best value like I really like that CPU if I was going to go to rosin I'd probably go with the 1700 myself just because I'm you know I I can and I'd want those you know slightly better render times and stuff but if from pure value for money point of view there 1600 man it's good deal yeah but really good to you well I think with the 1600 is that it it's got that little bit of extra power right you've got those extra cores and threads there and which most people aren't even going to utilise six cores and twelve threats that would just be I mean better than outlandish statement but it's a load like I could get by on a 1600 I know I could after using the 8 cores 16 threads here I can get by on a 6 core 12 threads perfectly fine it would be great actually beard really good experience should even use get by I mean it's actually a great CPU so that is the one to get for most people that's just if you're getting into Rison like I know people want the extra two cores of four threads that the 1700 offers over the six core but are they going to be utilizing that I think a lot of people would actually be utilizing those extra cores and threads know that that is a good point and I would say I was more speaking for myself personally because and of course view as well I mean we do a lot of our productivity stuff so that makes sense um but yeah for the average user yeah you could probably still get away with something like the 1400 or the 1500 X but um a lot of people talk about future-proofing as well I I mean people talked about that for like years when the fx-8150 came out everyone was like bro go to a core like the games are going to take advantage of it just they just got to get you know made for it so after that I was a slayer now I'm not buying anything because people see games in the future or take advantage of it you just got to think about what's good right now but of course rendering streaming stuff takes advantage of me yeah future I mean future proofing is one of those tricky things right you can look at the other side of the coin you know in five years time your CPU is going to be worth a lot less than it is now so what are you future proofing for the fact that your CP is going to be devalued I mean you buy just buy what you need for like the short term like in the next year you're going to be using this CPU to its limits if not maybe grab the six core if you are going to be using all those eight cores at 16 threads grab that because you know in a year's time the even Rison will have a refresh on their CPUs that'll bring over clocks even better over clocks and I know a lot of people are going to be like damn man they're getting up to four point five gigahertz now I want one so that is that's how it's going to be so anyway we have the first article here about Vega now last week we talked about the the time Spy resolved now another results popped up and this is the 3d might fire strike now you've got the graphics core which is 17,800 and of course this is a lot of people like okay this can't be true it's fake especially last week's result I pulled that up directly from the database it was not fake that was a real score from a real gravis card being loaded into the database now of course it is it looks like it's an early end Joe sample but we were talking about this before and the Linux drivers that suggests there's an article here from guru 3d that suggests there's actually going to be three different SKUs of these graphics cards and this is starting to make sense now the one that we're seeing now the C one in the benchmarks that's looking like the like the least powerful Vega card right I'd say to having 3072 shader processes or stream you know that would be my guess yeah it could be or it could be trimmed down in other ways like the fury X compared to the fury nano um that that was trimmed down and like terms of power more than anything see this is quite interesting though these results line up it's where I think it should be that the the sort of least powerful Vega GPU will be made to go against the gtx 1070 i believe that will be the it depends lmds doing the naming scheme because it's so confusing but the Vega 10 I believe will be the smaller one to go opposite to Polaris and the Vega 11 will be the big one but we don't although use a different name like Vega 10 pro or Vega 10 XT or something like that and we don't know it's all speculation at this point but yet that that one it seems about in line it means it'll be with prop probably with proper drivers it'll be on par with the 1070 so that'll be interesting but yeah because we're looking to the full power ones to see where they lie so it's all speculation right now but all of this just adds to something I've been seeing for a while is that I think that that lowest tier one will be on par with the 1070 and then the full power one will be between a 1080 and a 1080 Ti that honestly where I think let's go I don't think it'll beat the ten atti I don't think it can be that powerful but um what the die is well to do did you read that I think that was an 592 squared yeah it's a beer yes huge yes that's big guys if you don't if you don't really understand that that's a big and technically bigger isn't like that that doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be really really good just by itself but it's a good indicator of a powerful CPU and how much as evil that thing's gonna put out I mean this is on 14 nanometer - if that's 500 mil Square that's huge so I mean the thing is right these early these this is looking like an NGO sample loaded into the database which is at twelve hundred megahertz clock speeds up reportedly they're going higher right fourteen hundred megahertz so you pull a bit of extra performance out there new drivers of course but it's looking like this lower skew will go against the gtx 1070 like you said I think you're right there I will the will the biggest one I mean you've got an extra thousand stream processors I'm guessing this is just all guesswork - guys take everything we say with a grain of salt is just me and give just just shooting numbers yes yeah speculation you I mean what are you guys macula - yeah the biggest card right we're looking maybe at what a GTX 1080 and performance like they don't have any data no this is looking like it's not they're not going to have an answer to the 1080 TI that's all that's that's just me yeah I imagine it would yeah because people are saying that one will have about a twelve hundred megahertz clock speed the full power one apparently it's going to be closer to like 1.56 gigahertz so that's too much I think out of I think 1.5 max I mean through the rising refresh is on 14 nanometer I'm getting like apparently I got the best overclock on 3d fire strike with the 570 and that was one point four six gigahertz so there where's daily mmm well that's what I was reading from that article so that in theory if that's if it's got the extra string processors and that extra clock speed they're saying that through their own calculations on scaling it would put it seven percent more performance in a GTX 1080 so you reckon when I pull the cooler off I'm gonna have to put my sunglasses on it's going to be that hot anyway Dean yeah yeah I think I that's what I told you I mean I said this like two weeks ago I think um I said I reckon the most powerful Vegas trip will end up being 10% faster than a GTX 1080 which still means that it's probably going to be about 20% slower than a GTX 10 atti so 20 to 25 percent slower um because that's a the gap between you guys have to remember the gap between the 1070 and the 1080 is very small by comparison to the gap between the 1080 and the 1080 Ti that's like a 35% performance difference so that's a much larger gap and that's why I think that the power of full power Vega chip will be about 10% more powerful than a GTX 1080 from everything I've read that's what I'm taking from it but that still means is a huge gap there to the 1080 TI which will stay on top as king but the AMD will probably do some dual GPU craziness that will end up being the top powerful single card but not the most powerful single GPU well as my thing is though 1070 and 1080 have already been out for so long now like that's the thing that bothers me these guards have been out for quite a while quite a jump though for NVIDIA though that they're pretty revolutionary cards in terms of what we've seen from them this is probably the biggest jump they ever did from where I came with 1080 Ti is a beast I mean that thing is absolutely insane but yeah doesn't spell good for AMD especially we'll talk about that later with the stock prices and stuff like that because this actually ties in with that being a big factor on their gross margins so we'll talk about that soon but we've got the so there's there's a fire strike score there so we saw there seventeen thousand eight I think of gtx 1070 schools around 20k at 10 80s should screw around 24 k that's about the scores that I was getting at least with the cards that I had overclocked of course I think overcooked and not overclocked off the top of my memory out of that but I always overclock my graphics cards anyway you were telling me why 1% of people overclocked their stuff like 1% of people who biotech products overclocked their gear ah there was Steve but Jay that yes he was he know a lot of people overclocked a lot more I should see people overclock their CPUs but not many people overcook GPUs at all um well it's free performance guys I'll be doing actually that was one of after I read these statements and read these comments as well I'm be I'm going to be doing an overclocking tutorial for GPUs how overclocked in 2017 because the lots changed over the years I can find a GPU overclocked like that it's so quick now to do heav'n benchmark afterburner just quickly bash through the numbers until you get relative stability then you're pretty close then after that run some fire strikes benchmarks and then of course play some games and if you generally if you can play games on that thing for an hour your GPU overclock is relatively stable and it's close to being a hundred percent stable so anyway the and then of course if you crash once in a blue moon on those settings you just drop it down a little bit dial it down a little bit and you're good to go never had a problem with that so I'll do the tech your city a method of overclocking yellow graphics card very soon yeah okay and now we got the Intel 7700 K CPU shouldn't be overclocked Wow in response to countless overheating complaints so basically there was a problem with the 7700 K way even on idle it would just boost out of nowhere to 90 degrees not really I wouldn't call 90 degrees dangerously high though and in the Sentinels in all terms of science I don't imagine how it could play if you've got a water cooler like people on water loops are reporting these sensors going to 90 degrees I'd say it's more a bug than anything but it wasn't ills response that bothered me a lot ah this this response here we do not recommend running processes outside the processor specifications here it is here such as by exceeding processor frequency or voltage specifications or removing of the integrated heat spreader sometimes called deleting actually it's pretty much all the time called deleting these actions will void the process of warranty I so basically they're selling K CPUs that are meant to be overclocked they even offer a what is it over clock is warranty on their kcp use if you pay an extra twenty dollars and then they're telling you they shouldn't be overclocked i yeah hmm I really don't get it sometimes I mean it's like marketing so these companies don't communicate with each other sometimes like oh yeah the sales department oh yeah the sky the technical support department oh yeah this department I don't even know let's go this is just such a stupid response in my opinion mean you're selling z2 70 motherboards just selling k CP people are paying for the right to overclock already which I disagree with and then you're telling them they shouldn't overclock you you should just say like look guys we've been looking into this it appears like it's a bug we're doing our best to rectify it unfortunately it couldn't be rectified perhaps it can't be rectified and we'll see what we can do from there did that be the best response of course you're selling a KC PU it's designed for overclocking you don't tell people who have got custom water loops going on who know how to overclock their gear and know that this shouldn't be happening on their gear that they shouldn't be overclocked you shouldn't tell those people that so I would just baffled by the responses it's yeah it's a bizarre thing that they done this and many degrees as you're right that's fine um people I said this time and time again that people tend to in our community and the tech community tend to think that our temps will do more damage than they actually can do ah ninety degrees is fine my 4770k ran at ninety degrees for like two years and it was just fine my laptop's ball on it like 96 degrees man people think like wow at 90 degrees once my CPUs fried it's like guys it doesn't work like that I know many of you think that but you probably never had a CPU that's run super hot and my 4770k ran ridiculously hot all the time at the same time I had an i-9 290 in there that was used for Bitcoin mining a reference one in that set at 95 degrees all the time when I was gaming so was it a statue was it a stutter fest ah smooth silk man not a proper I got a seriously but I gotta see that to believe it oh it was throttling it was totaling the 290 was my CPU wasn't because Intel CPUs only throttle it a hundred and so if you're sitting in the 90s it's okay but they're there ah that the GP was throttling every now and again but yeah it was fine a like there was no problems there so I think people get a lot more worried about again at the same time the the over time they obviously won't last as long I'll tell you now like with the thermal in regards to the thermal limits put in place they are better than they've ever been I would like to see someone try and kill a CPU deliberately on normal voltage I don't think it could be done like or take a hell of a lot of effort because I've tried it before yeah yeah exactly I think it would be very very difficult and even then um it's actually a lot harder than people think we're actually going to do a video like that on play tech TV would just sort of put it on the back burner but it was can you destroy a CPU slash GPU with just software so not without actually physically hitting it or take pulling it out or anything um door pulling a cooler off it in use could you actually destroy a CPU by just you know letting it run super hot and leaving either door over bulging it to the end of time or purposely going out there and doing the worst things you possibly can to either and seeing if we could break the and we asked around a few people in the industry seems like a lot of people actually said that no you won't be able to heal pretty hard man yeah the computer will just shut down or stuff like that you you obviously yeah it will turn off and stuff but you won't actually be able to damage it my experience of intersections yeah my experience with that is if you get the scenario where for instance your scenario where the whole case is so hot and in the sense is hitting a hundred degrees for instance it starts throttling in a hundred degrees but everything around that sensor is so damn hot too that's when you get that's when you're at risk of damaging your gear because of the sensors actually if everything's cool and that sensor is just going to 90 degrees that shouldn't be a problem at all and that's why I say I think it's a bug more than anything especially if it's having an idle just doesn't make any sense but it is actually very hard to kill a CPU and I've tried before trust me the thermal the thermal tree just thermal trips and even then it consists it at a hundred degrees sometimes it just sits there at a hundred degrees like huh scratching my head yeah and you just see the clock speeds go down and down and down the power go down and down and down until it starts dropping back from 100 then it would go back up again and that's all they do so you'd be very um yeah you'd be very hard-pressed by 290 I remember the worst Davis or throttling it went down to like 300 something megahertz and that was the worst because from the factory I believe they would sit at around 900 950 or something um and yeah that was pretty shocking that that would go down a lot but no you won't you won't break poor these are these are hot things anyway Paul Lilly says I don't even have the major issue like everyone else is having however after intel's response just now they're not getting another penny out of me i'm going to sell my and sell stuff and go to Rison hey Paul Lilly you want to contact a studio I'll buy your 7700 Kayla has no problems for cheap like hook us up 7700 K is still a really powerful CPU and a 5 gigahertz man just it is really good that is that the comment above is kind of ad bull closed bulldozer yeah it runs hotter but remember the the thermal limit on bulldozer was really low from memory um it'll thermal throttle at 65 was it or 75 it's a lot less sir of course it runs a lot cooler because there's no no we're near the thermal Headroom so that's not a very fair comparison but okay whatever he were just getting grumpy at Intel despite the incredible risk there isn't really any incredible risk though like I think WCF tech like deleting your CPU if you do it properly like you especially if you use now they even like something like de Bourgh's kit there's like zero risk in that like you know the razor blade technique was the riskiest I actually had a friend on skype like man I can't get to a vice I'm just going to do the razor blade I'm like I don't recommend the razor blade method because I've just heard so many people have bricked there see if you use doing the razor blade method on the Haswell CPUs the PCB was really thick so you just put it on a vise was I've never bricked the CPU doing that I even damaged a corner on a CPU and it still worked so mmm yeah there you go so ok so next up is intel's rebranding the xeon line to the credit card naming scheme so apparently the e5 and ii seven titles were confusing to people so they decided to go with xeon Platinum Xeon Gold Xeon silver and Xeon bronze I don't know like what do you what do you think about the naming scheme um well it's going to be much I did struggle a little bit trying to understand the different names for everything in terms of the Xeon lineup but yeah it is a lot easier the thing is is that these aren't really made for the consumer market per se in the sense that this is made for business and most of those people are pretty onto it anyway so you would imagine they probably wouldn't be getting exactly confused um but yeah whatever if they want to make it easier that's that's good so you have the the e sevens now become the Platinum's the e fives will then become ah apparently well really are they sing the bronze well suppose we're saying what would they eat three beaten well they say with the Platinum's rise how they're doing it so you get hardware enhance security this is they have ECC support they're basically for large corporations that need reliability so hedge funds or whatever finance institutions they're going to be wanting to get the platinum then they got the gold which I mean I'd imagine the gold would have very similar features to the platinum I mean if you're buying gold you would expect ECC support I mean Zeon's have always had ECC for every Xeon CPU I'm pretty sure so this is what could this is what's confusing me are they taking ECC support away from these lower skews on silver and bronze it's like huh that's what the Xeon lines always been about soy Zealand's always been business regardless of how many cores and threads of course you've had ones with no hype threading on there that served a particular purpose you've had ones with huge amount of cores and threads I'm just trying to understand what they're going here are they making it like a okay you don't need Xeon features now but we're going to call it a zero and bronze anyway that's sort of like confusing to me so with the gold there apparently cheering that to machine like learning like FPGA FPGAs deep learning yet oh yeah it's it's also the the servers that we'll be running with these CPUs and these new CPUs will have the feature called Intel volume management device all that basically means is you'll be able to hot swap the obtains drives and 3d NAND base drives as well so that's pretty cool but I think this is seems like a it seems like Intel is quite worried this is where they were making a lot of money and with Naples very close by I think they are a little bit worried we risin on the desktops obviously that did worry them a bit but if Naples does well and comes in at a very good price point undercut them because many businesses will look at that and just see it as a price saving yeah that'll be very interesting I think if Naples does well that's gonna actually bring in a lot more revenue for AMD than the rise in desktop PC CPUs whatever hope to achieve um just because you guys say no they can charge so much money for these CPUs did you see what did they say what prices of what the Platinum there does he answers coming in so what would you imagine what would you guess it would be it would be ridiculous right it's made human the the like the best top-of-the-line CPUs they've always been in near $10,000 I think they'd be really expensive of course there's companies out there to just write them off on businesses and they don't care silver and bronze I don't know what the difference is between these two ones efficient performance at low power while the others is aimed a entry level service isn't that the same thing like so I'm kind of confused about what they're doing with this naming scheme and exactly how it'll pan out but I think we'll report on it when we've got more information okay but are we going to talk about this now the big elephant in the room the AMD stock prices they dropped a lot and we're talking like 20-25 percent 20 to 25 percent and on Monday so they dropped down huge drop here extreme to extreme tech actually did a really good pull up of the summary of what's going on the figures that you really need to see I'll give you I'll give my two cents on this I mean I've never really touched stocks into after the 2008 financial crash because if you guys were in that you'll understand that things didn't make sense there were stocks that were losing money beyond levels you've never seen before and the the credentials were still absolutely fine the stockmarket never makes sense so trying to say okay this stock shouldn't be going down it's looking fine the results were okay they did roughly where they were expected to do or whatnot and you're grasping at straws like basically there's just a heap of hedge funds would have sold off a heap of this stock they would have said okay the momentum is probably not as strong as we thought it would be let's just sell all this and get our money and get out move on to the next endeavor the stock market's driven by a lot of short-term and medium-term gains so if hedge funds bought this stock bought this stock at $2 even $5 and they said the projections pretty good he gets the $15 they've made a heap of money now so hedge funds will leverage what for - 1 2 - 1 is probably a more safer hedge fund 4 - 1 8 - one's the riskiest in terms of leverage on a hedge fund if you're going over 8 to 1 leverage then you are will go broke pretty quickly so you see this is these companies that are investing a huge amount of money they've made their profit they're just getting out okay that's all it is it's nothing more nothing less you can look at the credential bit actually looking at the numbers they are not healthy like AMD's these numbers aren't healthy by any means I mean look at their gross margin its 34% now we compare that to Intel we put up Intel's results same quarter so quarter 1 2017 Intel's gross margins at 62% so Intel's almost making double the money off their sales than AMD is so you can see with a problem here aimed easy value branded company they're selling but yes they are offering competitive pricing they are offering competitive products but the problem is is the competitors making a lot more money off each sale than they are and now as a business they need to start getting these margins up they know that and the problem is if they don't have a competitor this is where it comes into the play if they don't have a product in the higher end of the market where arguably the most gross margins are to be made how are they going to compete with Intel or Nvidia Nvidia is just killing it ten seventies 1080s ten ATT is there absolutely killing the market they're making a heap of money off those gravis cots you can see that the Titan XP versus the 90/10 ATT I look at that an extra five hundred bucks it's the same thing there's five hundred bucks in Nvidia's pocket for nothing so you can see there the gross margins are real Nvidia is making healthy gross margins Intel's making healthy gross margins because they have the high-end products and with that it makes them look like a premium brand as well so it's it's there's a lot more to the picture but if AMD isn't making high-end products then they're not going to be making a huge gross margin I guess people are saying this okay they've only got the value you can only go so far with a value driven company especially since the stock is not a value stock either it's a growth stock they don't even pay out dividends so in AMD's not paying dividends and they're not growing a whole lot then you can see I'd say even even at this price the stock could be overvalued but again I'm not going to speculate for you guys if you guys are investing in stock make your own decisions do not listen to anyone else when it comes to stock markets you listen to yourself if you look at this study if you look at the statistics and you think if it is goodbye then buy it if you don't think it's a good buy then don't buy it if you're going to be a sheep you're going to lose money that's all I'm going to say yeah be proactive not reactive because I think that the when you'll say then she yeah would you see then that you would think that Naples will probably help Amy the most in terms of helping that gross margin increase rather than something like Vega ah or do you think it was both it'll be a mix of both of course they again they're they're both the higher end more like higher end products right and more so on Naples though you'd imagine that the margins there because it is targeted a business and it is targeted at super high in CPU market and would be a lot larger than what you'd expect out of Vega yeah which by the sounds of it is going to be wait I mean think like does that die is going to be that big it's going to be quite an expensive graphics card to manufacture to begin with exactly like that's exactly right your touching on this right the more product they put onto it this is where it ties back in and this is why people would ignore power consumption like it's some stupid figure no it isn't power consumption ties exactly back into the product itself and generally we'll give you an idea of how much that product costs to manufacture so if it's cheaper to manufacture that product in other words it has lower performance per watt or higher better performance per watt then it's going to be equal generally more gross margins like a GTX 1060 I guarantee you the actual hardware on that product is cheaper than an rx 580 guarantee you 100 110 percent so Nvidia is making more margins on a GTX 1060 sale then AMD is making on an rx 580 sale and that ties in again the GTX 1060 has better performance per watt so it's not a stupid failure it's a great figure to look at it's a very important figure and it ties in with the out of this so Vega how is that going to prove again 500 millimeter squared die you're looking at it is that going to be a hard hit like yeah that'll be the interesting thing there you would expect the markets will come up because Lisa sue whose Andy's CEO and I think she's doing the best job she can given this obviously constitutes good she's probably the best thing at yeah I've had to be on oh yeah she's yeah yeah she's doing alright so that it's not her fault people looking at her I think she's doing the best she can but uh she hasn't said confirmed that Vega will be released by the end of June so it's definitely coming so I'd imagine these stocks will start to rise once again because of course all the rumors speculation stuff that drives up stock prices and okay and then they will start to recover yeah but that's the thing are they going to recover now Vega comes out and it's the same price it's the same price as as invidious offering say for instance the lower vegas q comes out and it's the same process the 1070 what do you think people are going to buy just i'm just going to ask you a question what do you think people are going to buy let's be honest let's yeah you know they're going to buy the 1070 over the vega card why because nvidia advertisers when you advertise of you plus you've got nvidia coming up they're like half the games you load up now nvidia and video and video that's associating in video and if you have especially if you have a good time on that game this is where people this is where it goes subliminal it's called subliminal marketing it goes deeper that advertising is so powerful on a games introduction because if you enjoy that game if you get that game you enjoy it you've now associated in video with good you haven't even thought as subconsciously that's what's happening subconsciously you've now associated nvidia with good now if they're the same price what are you going to go with in video yeah it's just it's a natural thing it's like this is again we only have a small audience to we're like a little pissant in terms of the whole thing there's so many people out there just build computers don't even look at youtube they just play games oh yeah when they see us majority exactly so they get on the game they see an nvidia logo they have a good time on the game they're like okay my next car max crafts that's going to be an nvidia card they get asked the cert person look abused or how do these perform the price is roughly the same i they roughly perform about the same okay I'll get the Nvidia card that's it's a general consumer because invidious marketing is so successful and I've said this for years now and video as a business man they're doing they're hitting all the right buttons and they have been for years so god they're they do and they make you pay for it but I think that the there's a certain I mean not not those beauty month but there's sort of the a lot of the enthusiasts or people that are more interested in tech there is another sort of opposite mentality which is people seeing a India's like the underdog they're like well I want to support AMD I want to keep on going and those people go out and they'll buy the Vega GPU even if it's exactly the cut-down Baker even if it's the same performance this is 1070 and at the same price they'll buy just because they want to try help AMD they're like oh well Nvidia is making heaps of money anyway and really like this is I mean a lot of people say that I've said that too I do buy rise and I do believe in rising but look at our patron accounts dude we're the underdogs in the tax scene and the YouTube tax scene we don't get much support I mean we get I love the people who are supporting me so thoughts I thank you guys a lot the generally people just buy what's best for them I just get a different when it comes to YouTube they would like where we we are the underdogs but then again everybody I'm kind of like an underdog at some point or another I would say if we something bad had befallen us then maybe people would uh like like say Austin for example is someone you know when his house burned down there and he lost everything but that was a different that's that was a catastrophic event that was different I know but there was some one people but then in any fit you know and he made like the videos and Stephanie is like you know I'm really kind of ruined now and then the whole sort of community got behind and was like come on let's prop Austin up and then he's ever since then um he's taken off I mean he puts out great content he does a really good job but there but but that sort of support I think helped him and now Austin's crazy man he's over he got over 2 million subscribers like that's a really good job yeah Austin's Austin's doing really good and and he deserves it he's a great submit nice guy I'm just like I'm just inferencing statistics ok people like why you mention about patron a character like something on under a hundred patron supporters now I inference that to the amount of subscribers I have so these are the people who generally care and want to donate even it's the dollar a month I don't think it's that hard for people to donate one dollar a month but you inference those statistics and you're saying key people just and doesn't think I'd tell my viewers anyway I don't really care like if you guys want to support us support us but it comes back into that thing of how many people genuinely want to support this is how many people just watch and enjoy the content and that's all a that's all I want at the end of the day is just the like I head on the like button but yeah you can see that that statement of I'm going to support AMD because they're the underdog I'm starting to look at it and I don't think people care there's see me we will don't give a crap they're just like okay I'm just going to buy what's best for me and that's generally how it should be a guess you shouldn't have any like aim day or a company and if they can't perform at the end of the day it's not your job to prop it up like again there are people with AMD making good money they're making good salaries they should be donating their own salaries into the company if they believe in it so much so it's not up to the average guy who makes a little bit of money every week to support AMD it's up to AMD to support AMD and I mean just looking at why the stock prices dropped it's a touchy subject but again I mean I've never been the one to hold back I'm just going to tell these that these balint these numbers on the balance sheet they're facts they're early release they're fact now they're still running at a loss net loss for the quarter is 73 million dollars this is a company that's not profitable yet they're not paying dividends and that makes them therefore technically a growth company so they're they're a growth stock that's losing money but at the end of the day I mean that's yeah see how you want to see it just just yeah just one thing you should explain quickly for people some some people didn't understand ah what what's a hitch fund for those that oh okay so a hedge funds a a group of it's basically an elite investment firm just think of it as that so they basically have their own like a like a pull of like it and then yeah rich is another and exactly it's a rich a rich man's money pool where all the rich Investor's go Jay and these guys are talented these guys are talented the guys are these hedge funds are talented they meant they do a lot of dodgy stuff as well but if you're late markets they basically go around they got a reputation on Wall Street for being the guy who makes twenty percent year-on-year they'll make a huge amount of money people invest their money with these hedge funds this guy is good money with him he'll take I forgot the rates of a good hedge fund I think they take 25% of the profits it's the 20 and to Royal yeah that's right yeah you're right yeah 22 rolls that's right yeah so basically these guys will charge of course they make amazing money but of course they charge amazing money too and so with that they pull a keeper money and then they've got also power in the market as well if a lot of hedge funds collaborate - that's when you can see markets crash so again these guys a lot of these guys are really smart they're really switched on if it's basically yeah yeah of you there's really much where they're much smarter than you and I so yeah so basically it's like an if you guys don't get it that when you pull money together you know money makes money the more money you have these areas to make more of it that's why wealth accumulates so basically it's like if you and a 99 other people all pulled your money together all put in a hundred thousand or ten thousand dollars whatever it is you pulled or you might either yeah what's called a hedge fund managers that's what Brian was explaining these super smart guys that sometimes do dodgy things you can go to prison for that though so they generally don't or you know you shouldn't either they have a scapegoat or they're just smart um there's people that do it legit they're just smart people that can see the signs they're proactive and yeah and then basically with that money they create they make smart investments they pay off you know say stock prices increase or something like that and and then they take some of it for themselves but of course then everybody gets money from it also hich runs can go bad I like it relate a lot of them went under the thing is the banks themselves this is where it all ties in the banks themselves invest with hedge funds so they're huge see the banks are like okay we want to make returns who's hot on the market we'll go invest with this guy he's making good returns he's got a good whatever he's got good algorithm setup to making money there's so much more into it it's it's pretty complex but at the end of the day hedge funds have a huge amount of and with that they have a huge amount of influence on the market yeah and that's what we see from those MD ones is that as Brian said which is quite correct is that a lot of this this wasn't a whole bunch of say individual people I mean there probably was quite a few super-rich people but you know the average guy that may have invested $10,000 in AD and sold it that won't have even if there's like a hundred of him that wouldn't have that one cause this effect this decline it's where the big boys those big hedge funds when they start selling stuff then you'll see a real domino effect okay picture this picture this the stock market's built up on winners and losers that's what it all it all it is now if you buy a stock that's gone up from $2 to $15 if you buy that stock at $15 I do you think you're going to be a winner you've you've just made someone else a winner that's all you've just propped up another winner that's all you've done so either either you like for me I've like I said I should have bought AMD stock at $2 but I didn't so I missed the boat I didn't touch it and again I just generally don't touch stocks in general but yeah if we look at Intel's results of course they are healthy you see they're in there making a net income three billion dollars so Intel's doing pretty healthy compared to a AMD's balance sheet and that's what at the end of the day the numbers are here guys you can check them out for yourselves make your own conclusions but again we if you want to invest in stocks look at the numbers yourselves and say is this a good investment and honestly at $10 a share we've got here what revenue is not even a billion dollars for quarter one revenue of Intel is fifteen billion almost so I mean you've got here 15 times the earnings on one company versus the other and one company's losing money the other company's making money so and I mean Intel's apparently hit a downturn in some areas so I wouldn't like for me personally I wouldn't be investing in AMD that's just me personally I mean I know Rosen's great and I've been recommending rise into a lot of people but again as a company they could have pick it up yeah and if they're not offering that I was disappointed with Rosen they didn't offer a flagship that would cost like $1,000 and it was incredible they need to offer that $1,000 product same with um Vega they need to bring out Vega and they need to have a hard-hitting product that makes good money for the company and that people will be like okay AMD's back on top so anyway we move on to the next topic it's you know it's sort of it is in ways it is a bit of bad news when you look at the numbers this in my opinion of course AMD have to pick things up with Vega if they don't I think that's going to be a negative catalyst for the company of course neg Naples is going to be a really good thing ho Naples picks the company up and again the numbers are there and they're not stellar numbers that's what I'm going to say so so anyway Assassin's Creed is set to make a return in 2017 so this time they have another installment apparently it's the biggest ever and it's going to have naval combat in it so do you play much Assassin's Creed high play black flag and then they haven't really had anything that's taking my interest so apparently this is going to be one the biggest they've ever created it's going to be huge in scope as well so it's looking to come out fall of 2017 so I'm actually looking forward to this they'll be really cool because I love the movie I think that got me back into the Assassin's Creed franchise but anyway that was that Blizzard on fire or more financial news blizzards just absolutely killing it up 22 percent year-on-year and up 26 percent free cash flow so their revenue increased a huge ton as well so it looks like all their games are selling really well PC gaming as well but arresting Lee enough the a lot of the growth came from the mobile market so huge amount of growth came from the mobile market and I guess that goes to show that maybe we should be branching into mobile gaming keV what do you think hey guys this smartphone game awesome loving it absolutely loving it you can you can just click some buttons on its smartphone okay it has a it's gonna it's always going to do good because it's going to it's such a big market um but yeah I'm it that ties into something else that's kind of sad is that what I really don't like gaming on a smartphone to be perfectly honest I so sad I don't like it as well I mean I that's what I mean when I contrast that to PC games it's like brother play PC games of the week not even that but compared to portable gaming systems which obviously are sort of on the decline now things like the Vida or the Nintendo TS arm but it's still yeah by comparison they just feel it's just it just feels awful to game on a touchscreen um like you wouldn't do that with a computer yes sir I mean yeah I just not not it not a big fan of it at all but um yeah I it makes money people do it it's the main reason why it's making money is because it's people like your parents other ones playing like mahjong or something on their phone and they're you know and they're buying like the extra energy or whatever to keep playing when you know a lot of the games are like you can only play five games for free then you need two eyes you know there's no symptoms the simpsons that one my brother used to play this one called The Simpsons and you had to buy donuts or something I don't even know and people buy it I just my brother my brother's best friend and my brother spent 300 bucks on this Gail's like what how did you address it was on a smartphone game I was by the way that's it that's and that's why I say it's the it's the much old it's the much older people and the very young people who are the ones you know using um you know the weekly allowance or whatever and they're like yell bye kill it give us a more doughnuts or they'll do something like that so that's that's where the that's making so much money not because it's particularly good it's just they make money they're good at making money the way it's set up is good for making money but I hate it they really despise that is generating income amen the end of the day a fool is soon parted with their money just remember that so my brothers my brother's a fool that's what I'm trying to say $300 on Simpsons game so get his Starcraft gold master source code man someone found someone bought an eBay auction apparently and it had like it was just a blizzard pack and he pulled this out of it the Starcraft gold master source code and now this isn't this is the this is the weird thing he went on read it and like went oh my god what should I do and people were like I just release all the source code to everyone no he should have just kept this he should have just kept it and he could have sold it for like literally thousands of dollars instead he just messaged Blizzard and said hey guys I got this I want to do the right thing I want to give it back to you and they sent him our peripheral kid man blizzard got off so easy with this one a in some hit some games and some like crazy stuff like I think ray tracer they yeah they just sent him out some peripherals that they probably had lying around the store oh yeah what do we got here oh yes some like one of the ten blazer rack razer blackwidow keyboards we had for this event yeah just package it all up and a deal and send it out to him keep him happy oh and ten and Blizzard store credit as well so that $250 blizzards store credit so honestly this here gold master source code man he should have at least checked out what was on it and confirmed that it was like the legit source code disc and I think it is because Blizzard responded like wow we want this black bar back ASAP and yeah that would have been worth a lot more money than $250 store credit and some peripherals and a teddy bear the thing is I think maybe he got scared because of legal trouble I mean he does everything wrong like he hasn't done he's just bought it off eBay like consumer law relation Australia man lease in Australia this guy would be innocent he doesn't done anything wrong he just bought it that's now in his hands whoever sold it to him is the one who's liable yeah it would be but to use it or I'm thinking in terms of copyright though wouldn't you be on he hasn't sauce any agreements with Blizzard Blake thing is it's wound up in his hands you know unless it's desk says on it you know this is registered lover blah trademark of yeah you probably couldn't sell that but you've got the disc and the disc is worth a lot of money it's just like this is how collecting works men that would be a collectible wild be like the collectible of PC gaming I don't know it seems like something though that that's like though if you took something from a company like a corporate espionage type situation and you sold it and then someone bought it and they they just claimed they had no idea about it that they didn't realize it was like those laptops that got stolen a while back the gaming laptops from a razor I believe and and you know if you bought one of them and then raised it hits your ability L this is actually a prototype this is a you know copyright blah blah blah you wouldn't make him pay for a man you made you know get $250 store credit Blizzard could afford much look at that but we just pulled up the Activision look at this we just pulled this up three years three hundred million dollars more profit so an image I also said receiving stolen goods is also illegal so that if it was that Blizzard said it was this week this wouldn't have been stolen like is man there would have to be a police report back from when it was stolen and still a it goes pretty deep at the end at the end of the day this guy sold himself out very cheap and extremely cheap that's worth my two hundred it was because he was scared though for legal reasons that's what I personally take from I don't know I would have just kept on to this thing it would have best been like year I got the original says good like like that's worth a lot of money hey I'm telling ya man he sold himself cheap that's all it is he should have he should have just said look I'll give it back to you but I want to be rewarded for it I know you guys well just as it also could have threatened him with a lawsuit and be like hey you either you know hand this back and we'll give you all the stuff or okay then he gets in it well then he gets in his car then and he does the you know Gran Turismo and we just make some epic drama yeah I've just said my opinion is he sold himself out very cheap for 250 bucks for picking up the source code a Starcraft like that is crazy and that would have been a disc worth a lot of money like gold master gold master source code this is like the be-all and end-all of the source code as well yeah I don't know I would have paid good money for that like and then collected it the SONA jet said Brian equals hustler yeah because makes sense that's it man that's it so i'm that's something you gotta hustle man like you swapped that disc for like a brand new risin see this is what he could have done it game is before we move on the next topic you have got this disc swapped for a brand new system 1080 TI everything will put that into perspective for chemists 49 you could have got your brand new gaming rig triple wanted to set up out of this one disc that you picked up instead you got some peripherals and a teddy bear there we go alright anyway let's get steamed gifting gets major changes that hurts resellers so this is actually big news right arm I leave a lot of guys like me i buy my games off CD keys calm or something like that you get a few games when they come up cheap and some of the times you get gifted those via Steam inventory and so now steamer changing the way you can do this instead you if the the country that you're getting gifted that gift from if the price is substantially different now what did what determines a substantially different price I'd love to know I'd say it'd be what what would you say 50% profit differential so if it's $60 in one country and $90 in the price parity pricing so if the currency equivalent is like 50% more I'd say that would be the stipulate I don't know yeah this is I think what would you seems reactionary from valve oh yeah well basically the bottom line is they're stopping the gifts from being delivered between countries oops stopping gifts from being delivered where the price difference is huge because they want to make more money essentially yes yeah that's what's going on so it's gonna suck again it's gonna suck for Australians yeah because we pay a lot for games we're probably the highest New Zealand is well keV over here we're down under we we pay a lot for games and a little older pretty much every other country I think we got at some of the one of the worst countries when it comes to actual game pricing hardware's not too bad admittedly hardware-wise still into the u.s. man not not a huge amount dude like some of those eBay sales are pulled up recently and then you look at you Mart they're only a little bit more expensive than those sales it's not I mean I'm brand new to rare you dig it's not too bad like at the moment anyway at least on you you might an MS why it's not too bad depressing oh it's pretty as a New Zealand sounds probably bad yeah yeah see it's pretty shocking with the games as well because games is this I'm saying this I'm saying games is a ban games like crazy in Australia if you guys didn't know like if it games like too violent or too offensive they just ban it in Australia where New Zealand doesn't do that I guess so that's why I'm saying that ain't the game pricings out it's all route yeah the game pricing is out of control here and um yeah in terms of banning game's cool not cool actually okay anyway anyway gifts this is the news gifts so I don't know what this is going to spell how it's going to work exactly but again some of these CD keys might be a CD key stores might be in trouble maybe if you're buying off like CD keys calm you'll want to verify that it's actually a CD key and not a game and it's available for your region of course I find you can still get good deals I mean there's no problems with that it's just it's going to limit the games in circulation that are available for cheap cheaper than you can get them retail so that's just that on the news so you know we're not going to go onto g2a there's like HIPAA g2a bashing on there I mean I don't really care don't buy from g2a anymore so yeah I heard some mixed things coming yeah about that yeah but you have just yeah I've heard in every like guys the g2a bashing has been going on for years now I think so it's like yeah I'm sort of yeah anyway so manly releases a GeForce GTX 1080 TI the Gallardo so apparently like I was researching the comments here like pounce named after a bull in Spain or something and that's where the Italians get the name for it I donno oh really yeah it's such a bizarre no the slight hung I bought a manly what's that manly Gallardo yeah this is you got a bad leak a lot oh yeah you got a manly just sounds like an ad GI dude it's a manly sounds like you bought like a male prostitute or something like well it is dude I mean it is your male prostitute for gaming let's be honest my manly Gallardo yeah it's gonna be your that's is gonna be your personal prostitute for gaming at 1080 I know 14 or 14 for me or what so it's not like we know what male prostitutes names are like hey Brian um yeah we if we wouldn't have any idea what those are yeah but um that the yeah I mean what if there's our name but that's actually not a very high boost clock either at 16:45 is like kind of you know considering what the worst extreme is like what's that seventeen hundred and fifty out of the box so it's like a hundred bigger so I just that guy was cool because I've never seen this I've never seen this graphics card brand before I know admittedly Abbott I mean if people have heard of them before and I haven't don't hate me but I haven't heard of this brand of you heard of Manley before No so there we go got the Gallardo it's got it actually looks pretty cool like I'm gonna give him props I like the look of this graphics card it looks like a windforce 780ti in a lot of ways with the light translucent fan ah but it's got that cool like met the metal shrouds kind of like it's it's bought a line between like veal side and you know was that other one that made the clean body quit kids like Jay West or something yeah West bodykit so and yeah all right right I can't no there we go okay so there we go booze clocks is kept reported they're not that high they're not really that nothing to be impressed about memory clocks you even get memory clocks there oh yeah no you don't okay so don't even know about memory clocks either so next in you on the news here we got praise PC port isn't perfect but it runs like a champ so yeah is it a few people have mentioned this that it's actually very good very well optimized for our brand new game yeah which is good to see so that's good I'm considering we had so many shockers lately okay so yeah apparently is still managing 100 frames per second on 1080p on the 980ti so that's pretty good and it's looking like we'll have good performance looking forward to this game if it's well optimised for PC so that's all I need to say have you heard about pretty much I think it's you can buy it now I'm pretty sure I'm getting pretty sure it's out so um yeah I don't play horror games and it looks too scary for me so I'll just watch a play through us my friends what they but to tell me about it but um yeah cuz it looks a bit a bit scary I just can't handle horror games or movies just play them during the day bro playing during the day and you'll be okay I don't be safe man you'll be safe no one's gonna boogie monsters not gonna get you dude you can come over here and I think I Titus sit there I just sit there like why are my eyes closed they I just can't I just come Hamlet's right man I don't enjoy it I don't know better figures I don't I get I know people get a thrill out of horror movies I just don't enjoy being scared I don't enjoy the feeling of being scared I like watching interesting movies and action movies and documentaries and stuff so I much rather watch that than a horror movie but if you are scared dude yeah I can give you some cuddles it's okay man but what about manly Gallardo you Camille the cuddles and as well okay all right so next up here the Tesla we got here Tesla Model 3 you want you really wanted to talk about this so you got you can take this away tell the viewers about the Tesla Model 3 which starts at 66,000 us which is completely out of my league that's the Model S I guess that the model 3 will start at 30 with a 35,000 u.s. yeah so that the we haven't talked about Tesla much on this and sort of something that I feel like I would be almost perfect and reviewing would be Tesla or electric cars in general because I have a bachelor's in automotive engineering and I'm sort of pretty into tech as well I so yeah this will be interesting they're going to be selling Tesla's in New Zealand very soon there's already quite a few on the roads here the Model S for a lot of people is too expensive because they cost about a hundred thousand New Zealand Dollars which means it's quite an you know only a few very few people can actually afford it so the model 3 by comparison is going to be about half the price so it's going to come in at about we're hearing about fifty five thousand New Zealand sixty thousand New Zealand and so that'll be a lot more affordable to people middle class people upper middle class people especially will actually be able to afford it and the range will be quite good in this article basically Tesla's just saying that don't expect it to be like a Model S for half the price because it's not going to be the range is going to be much more limited Elon Musk himself from what I've read has said that the reduced range is not because teslic can't make the cars have longer range is just because of the battery capacities the batteries are very expensive remember that it will end up costing so much more but of course just like the Model S your your model 3 will have the different tiers of type you can buy so the 35,000 us that will be for the base model and then you'll be able to get better models as you go up with more features and a bigger battery so that will give it the longer range and everything else like that's this looks like quite an interesting car it should be quite good then following this you'll have the model Y which will then have the funny naming scheme because it will spell out sexy and so that that's quite funny that he laundered that but I yeah this is looking at quite a good kind it's what I've been saying for a while even if you don't care about the environment um these cars are good because you'll just save money like you're how much it costs to power it is so much less than a gasoline cast even if you just you know you stand on daisies and you just don't care man like it's still good and that's exactly the right mentality to have you have to make these electric cars cool you have to make them appeal to people that aren't environmentalists that just don't care about that stuff to just buy them because they're a cool car or people that just want to save money and that's how you do it and they are cool cars so yeah I look forward to it and I think I would try by Tesla at some point in the future if there once the model 3 the the prices will come down once the gigafactory is completed in Nevada they'll be able to produce much more many more batteries than they currently can and so with the AH what's it called they do you want to know is scaling what's that my old master that's cool that's pretty cool although I know you are LCC you have to buy it by Holden but I what's the what's the economies of scale that's what it's called yes as a as they produce more better and make the batteries faster and cheaper on a bigger scale then you'll see those prices come down so if you're still one of these people that thinks like many people my age you know and then mid mid twenties or Brian's age so in the mid 30s and mid do it normally 30 men come on it's over five years ago I thought I thought you're 37 so chief of staff cheevus damn it but that that that will start to come down to the price that we might be able to think about buying it say like 40,000 New Zealand dollars I mean you could get that on Finance and that's not going to be a killer so that would be very good as well so 35,000 New Zealand there's well many of these other countries like the US I know in California and I think New Zealand will start doing that I know some of those northern European countries they have these incentives to make you buy electric cars like they'll give you rebates or they'll give you whatever and to help you buy the the cars as well so if you live in one of those countries it'll end up costing less I think in California it will drop below 30,000 us with all the incentives you can get along with it so there's pretty good man like a brand new electric car like a nice car for they say twenty eight thousand US that's a that's a hell of a deal so you before did you called me a hustler before and you know the one rule of a hustler especially with cars you never buy a new car that is true and because they do lose a lot but soon as you walk out the dealership really lost five grand but at the same time it's if you quite a few people my family have recently within the last two years bought brand-new cars and the reason why in New Zealand is a lot of times these dealerships will give you say Mitsubishi will give you a ten year warranty which is pretty pretty good so in in that aspect if you owned the car for quite a long time say five years or ten years it can actually work out to be quite good then all things considered but yet this is quite interesting also you might want to refresh the questions page Brian because I posted the link at the start so I get other people who have yep okay have chimed in but yeah we'll get to Q&A then okay do you want to move on to okay well we aren't on the Q&A now so yeah all right guys so this is what we got here hey guys Hoover naught he asked how's it going looking to build a new or upgrade my new home theater PC looking to keep it small smaller the better footprint currently has AG 32:58 h 97 mm ATX board a gigabytes of ddr3 memory at rx 460 and an 80 plus bronze rated 500 watt rows will power supply i hate's the sg-11 B that's the silverstone case the case will the good news is is the case doesn't affect performance so you hated it doesn't really matter they're going to final performance of this so if you're asking me about is I'd like price performance wise that's a great little home theater PC you already have I mean if it I don't see what's wrong with it yeah I mean I don't know what you're trying to upgrade here because it looks like it's going to do the job for what you need it to do absolutely fine like rx 460 I'm pretty sure that graphics got to play for game movies absolutely fine so oh no worries yeah I mean like there's nothing here that'll be a hiccup I mean older games 32:58 is perfect for that like perfect match made in heaven so now you don't really need to put anything into it bro just put your 400 euros in your pocket and look forward to the future until you need something else put that money towards yeah I would just say save it and then yeah build up and then when you want to build a newer a bigger room a bigger rig maybe you want to upgrade everything go to high-resolution display stuff then start up build a new one from the ground up and make that a super powerful one but in the meantime yeah that one looks solid so question number two what cartoons did you guys watch growing up I loved Fran and Stimpy oh man I watched Ren Stimpy that was awesome Stevie you idiot I remember that one that was pretty cool there was also the other like transformers man I grew up on that that was like religion to me um ya love transformers there was a I remember those this old one called techno man that was probably yeah that was a really cool anime used to watch that one as a kid so I don't know if anyone remembers that one called techno man something else' what about you keV we cartoons do ah I I didn't I watched ramble Z and Pokemon and quite a few other things but I didn't really like them too I don't really remember getting really into any cartoons you really heavily until I sort of got a bit older I guess the only one I started watching trying to watch every single one was a Family Guy when that first started and that was really funny especially by yeah but an oligo man that he's like yeah yeah it was really because I tried watching self-park for the longest time and I never really got into the humor ah but when Family Guy came out and I started watching that I really did like like that and I thought that was really funny so uh yeah when his family goes to be going a lot a long time guys like it started way back in the day and it's changed a lot over that time too but yeah that was really good and then it got canceled never in cried for ages then it came back and he was happy see ya it's a dragon Kurt he asked the next question how I was using the B 350g be a gaming three for the VRMs also I was using hardware and for software and for the vrm Thames okay so yeah gaming 3b 350s okay it's a nice little board I think I've got one here I've got to check it out more though Alan he's got a heatsink on there so just yet maybe get a fan on those if you're worried about the vrm temps like I did in my video just actually get a fan and stick it onto the VRM like it'll be a bit ghetto it'll look pretty bad but hey it'll sure it'll drop the vrm temps for you so also his cpu the r7 or the rad7 1700 pen is broken off when he took the cpu out and it fell onto his GPU so that's when it broke off he's wondering does any of you both know an email so I can contact them I if like if you dropped it and it fell onto the GPU dude that's like that's your own mistake kind of thing like you can't like I mean I would message the retail channel you're going through like I do have a contact for A&Z but I wouldn't message them because that's like I don't know dude that's yeah if you drop the CPU yourself and the pin broke off that's your own fault but that's the risks that come with building your own computers you know as much as I don't recommend going out buying a pre-built system there are these one these are the risks that come with PC building and so if you if you drop the cpu unfortunately man you're gonna have to maybe just I don't know contact the retailer and say hey is there anything he can do for me and hopefully they can help you out you can stick the pin back on I mean if you've got the pin you can like put it in the actual socket where it broke off and then put the CPU in and it should be okay like it should still work so it's pretty generally it's easier if you bent the pin you can bend it back and you still you know that that'll be okay and that yeah if it broke off it's a means it's a bit more ah yes good yeah it is tricky but I mean I'd be doing today I'd be Jessa that's fair for 320 US CPU man I'd be trying you know everything like I'd be dripping some liquid metal paste in that socket as well be like turn on yeah and then once it turns on you just never touch it again this is one of those things you just never touch again that's how I generally when you get stuff like that working you just never touch it again is it works again should I spend okay next question should I spent $225 on qhq G and good board for $280 for risin five 1500 X and board gaming only arm so that's the total cost like 225 on the qhq G and the board if you can get that combo that'll be pretty good very good I'd go with the qhq G combo personally because yeah $55 cheaper that's if it's the whole combo if it's just the CPU that's a ripoff yeah I'd personally go for the qhq G how about you keV I just get the risin 5 1400 instead of the 1500 X yeah let's save some money get aboard with that and probably just go with that you'll be just fine to serve o'clock to 1400 up to three point eight three point nine and that thing will whole you can do it on a stop call there as well and it will get pretty toasty as I showed in my video we compared the spire ah to the stealth but the stealth still does a pretty good job is actually wider than the spire cooler um even though it's not as thick so yeah you can overclock it just fine a managed to overclock still with the stealth it's getting pretty toasty though getting close to 90 degrees um but that's fine the throttle at 95 so if they go running the high or if they run in the 80s that's okay and go from so next question we got icebergs he wanted to ask if if I ever figured out the how to get games some games ran like crap with Jools eons and that was right yes they did there is one only one extra trick that I have found and stumbled upon and that's the CPU ID are limited in the BIOS settings so you enable that and some games can actually boot up I didn't know I know about testing the games for smoothness but f1 2016 when I was doing that comparison of the dual Zealand's versus the rise in CPU versus the Intel service at 100k I couldn't boot up f1 2016 like I couldn't boot it up and then I went back in the boss changed the limit cpuid setting enabled it which it recommends disabling for Windows XP but Windows XP is ancient anyway so I did that and the game booted up GTA 5 it just wouldn't bid on my jewel Xeon rig I have to get an able CPU affinity only to one CPU so I wouldn't even know how it would run on two CPUs because I can't even get the game to run on two CPUs other than that a lot of the games that I tested yet like doom and bf one they rent and so they ran really well on those eons a lot of the games ran absolutely fine just the frame rates were behind Tom Clancy's the division that ran extremely well on those jewels eons I was shocked at how well thing ran on the that game is really well optimized so yeah I mean joules eons they do have they can have problems from time to time but limiting the CPU ID and the BIOS that's a recommendation to do so the last question we got here I'm looking to downsize to a mid tower possibly the NZXT s340 elite nice case but then only be able to have my 280 millimeter all-in-one cooler as air intake for the case would this be enough air for the 1080 TR MSI gaming X yes as long as you've got an exhaust fan so you want to put it at the front and have those the CPU cooler depends on the CPU as well if it's a 4 core yeah 280 ml rattle actually brew bringing cold air into the case so as long as you get an exhaust fan it should be fine absolutely fine yeah I'd say yes what about you careful yeah that'll be fine yeah there shouldn't be a problem I think people oftentimes it's more about just getting the air in there rather than like it doesn't necessarily have to be that super cool air as long as it's getting in there um that should be fine remember when you're gaming as well most games that wouldn't push the CPU much so you'll you'll be fine that Dimps won't be particularly high so the cooler that air won't be super hot when it's coming in the GPU will be running much hotter by comparison so that will be but yeah you'll need is he saying there's going to be no exhaust there'll only be there 280 as an intake it's actually funny because speaking of that speaking of games that stress the CPU and GPU I've been using crisis now for the arm to check power consumption and it's like you know that game it just it's like I don't know what it is but it utilizes your GPU and CPU to the max and you get a really good indication of what games can consume from the wall in terms of power consumption but Mafia 3 actually might beat it I've got to go back and double-check but mafia 3 might actually be the the game that juices the CPU and GPU at the same time the most okay yeah again insane yeah I'm just looking at the the case yeah you should be fine if you had those fans the single fan and the top that one 20 and another fan in the back if you have those two his exhausts you'll be just fine having there the 280 mill red in the front those jewel 140s that will be just fine as long as it's getting that ear exhausted out the back see just make sure you have those two exhaust fans in and eyebrow worries okay so we're gonna wind down the show now I hope y'all enjoyed it will be having episode 26 is Q&A on the website taxi D TV make sure you go check it out and of course I'll put the link for Kev's channel in the description below go check that out as well and any closing statements keV I know guys just head over to my channel if you want to see more rice and showdown so we're going to have a as I said the 1600 X versus 6800 k showdown that'll be going up very soon and then also I will be doing a rise in roundup kind of comparison and review where I talk about basically the whole risin 7 and risin 5 lineup and which CPUs I like which ones I would recommend within the both lineups and who I think there would be most applicable force that's what I'm going to be doing over the next sort of week we can have Stevie Stevie you idiot ok anyway alright guys we're gonna catch you next week thanks for tuning in and watching and yeah if you got any questions as well drop them in the comment section too and we'll catch you guys next time peace out for now bye