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okay I think it's streaming now welcome back to episode 26 of the tech lounge I hope y'all doing fine and I'm joined by keV from tech show down how you doing man been doing great Brian how are you bro you seem to be pretty busy lately yes Eileen leading up to Computex there's a lot to do it's a lot of stuff we're getting it done I still gotta do the GTX 1060 versus the rx 580 we should which should be really good because I'll be overclocking both the cards talking about everything in those involved with those two cards and there's a lot of builds that have to get done I've still have to do an r5 1600 build r5 1400 build and yeah I just want to do a lot of things other yesterday's we did a build yesterday it's people like you know why would you use the r7 1700 over the 7700 K it's like I just I'm just doing a build like is no it's not like the end of the world you know what I mean yeah I just felt like it's just a bill yes sir it's just a build guys prices well yeah it's pretty good like and I did put like I did put a cookie cutter list in the description so yeah yeah I got to build things because I have to get content done I can't wait for extra parts or I just don't have time until Computex at the moment I've just got to get things done so yeah that could have been a few little things I could have changed but the end of day I hope people enjoyed the video and I hope people enjoyed the performance figures that came out of those two parts together the 1700 overclocked and also the gtx 1080 overclocked so yeah yeah he gets really was really good i was surprised that their gains in dota 2 were as big as they were that was huge as I remember testing dota 2 when the game was when Rison was first released and it performed pretty bad now it's performing really well so I'd say like I think they showed us slides at their presentation in Sydney and it was like and it was about 15% or so they said something like that the gains in dota 2 I'm seeing much more than 15% so yeah yeah no it's just a really solid a oh no I thought it was it yeah solid build a I think maybe it's just because a lot of people I think the those mid-range builds are what's more applicable to people but of course we like doing the high-end ones as well they're always fun the end of the day it's usually the GPU that's most important and you Chuck there's a gtx 1088 yeah 1080i yeah that's no rule I mean that's a pretty powerful GPU so yeah I think it'd probably go pretty good it's a really good GPU the 1080 is probably the one to get now that if I can see I assume going for like four hundred and eighty dollars that's extremely good price for eternity so yeah yeah and voltage and volt has been announced - we'll talk about that later in the show because first up you wanted to talk about the I nines announced from Intel so finally they're going with the i9 naming scheme I mean it's taken them long enough I thought okay we'll go they'll holding out with the i9 variant and now they're releasing it with this which is arguably one of the least anticipated releases from Intel so what you wanted to talk about this - a what sir what's your thoughts on the i-9 yes I tried - about as much research as possible on these because they're going to be a very interesting CPU now that Intel finally has some competition from AMD so going to the i9 naming to start with that's an interesting choice it's going to be good to make it distinct from the i7 line but then at the same time most of the people that were buying these high-end CPUs are all enthusiasts anyway so it's not like they would be getting confused in the first place there would be some people buying these for workstation use and editing rigs and things like that maybe people that aren't PC enthusiasts but yeah it's still but they've done it so and someone actually a few people actually predicted this a while back so they were right on the money with saying that Intel would go to the i9 naming scheme so this will be coming in on the new socket 2066 these new motherboards will be the x2 99s but we don't know much about them yet and right now it's looking like you're getting the same as Broadway Lee in terms of lineup except instead of two six scores you'll just have the single six core and instead of going up to ten cores at the top there'll be the 79 20x which will be the 12 core 24 thread behemoth and that will be coming out a little later on that won't be from launch which is apparently going to be next month these will be launching so but that 12 core won't come out till a little bit later maybe a month or two after the rest of them are out so that's quite interesting when we look over the specs of them allow you guys that know CPUs will tell very quickly like I did looking at the l3 cache you'll be like why is it so low let's look at the 78 20x for example that has an 11 megabyte cache all abroad well II except for the 6800 and the 669 50x I believe had a 25 the rest'll had 20 so what it looks like here is Intel have actually dropped down the cache um quite a bit actually like on the 78 20 X which is the a core so it's like my 69 hundred K they've almost half the l3 cache which is an interesting move at the same time the dye itself is going to be much smaller on these compared to Broadwell II and also the clock speeds will be higher he's seeing at 4.5 gigahertz boost clock that will only be on a single core imaging but you'll see it all core booster probably around 4.2 4.3 or something maybe I will have to see close to the time yeah so that's quite interesting there it seems like Intel's done a little bit of a switch I probably think this is to bring the price down but it looks like they've traded a lot of the cash away in exchange for higher clock speeds this is actually made on the same fabrication process as KB Lake so that's why it says 14 nanometer plus so that's quite interesting so we should see bit bit of gain they're going from the broad well to skylake just pretty much same as cable a um so that would be quite good but yeah what do you make of there Brian trading cash vests for speed obviously it'll probably improve performance because you know clock speed it's better than cash in terms of better performance it's I mean it's good it's good and bad to a certain point right I mean if you start disabling too much then it's going to affect CPU performance or so I like the fact that they're going with the higher clock speeds on this eight core I think this would be the one to get out of this lineup I mean if you only get one of these CPUs not that I'm really interested I'm actually really waiting for word to their coffee like 6 quart 12 thread that's going to have the latest IPC and should hopefully overclock higher than these but this one you know you've it looks like what they got two point seven five megabytes of level-3 money per to cause so yeah interesting designer they going with Sonoma not only the disabling the cause like you said they're disabling the the money on board there so I should say cash right yeah because of hearing excuse yeah but I think it I say cash I say cash ah I still if people say that here in New Zealand as well but every time I'd say it people get confused my videos so to said cash well it's interesting for you guys that like Rison is that only the top one will have a larger l3 cache because remember rising 7 has a 16 megabyte all three cache so only the 79 20x will have a large one now that isn't there's a lot more to this this is very sort of simplistic how I'm explaining it but and Intel will obviously done internal testing because it's not going to be worse than Broadwell II you know they just simply wouldn't release it if it was worse so this is obviously going to be better um just do the clock speeds alone the fact that they can get that ed core up that high I mean my 6900 k will not go over 4.2 no matter what you do so that's quite cool but yeah it's an interesting take in those bigger ones TDP getting raised up to 160 watts it's starting to get up there yeah now um it's getting pretty pretty toasty so that's it's an interesting attempt the other thing that's interesting is they'll be releasing these kb lake x CPUs at the same time and this is quite bizarre to me so it's a it's going to be on the same mother bore the same socket LGA 2066 so it'll go in the X 299 motherboards but there's going to be the I 777 40k which will be at four core eight thread it looks like the same thing as a 7700 k it has the same cache everything is the same except it has a higher TDP it should have been easier connectivity - I'd imagine yeah I'd imagine didn't it didn't it be that pointlessly PU in history that's the other thing that you just reminded me of is that on Broadway le that's the other thing that's getting reduced the six core and eight core skylake X will have on the CPU they'll be able to flow 28 lanes then when you go up to the ten core and 12 core they'll be able to flow 44 and that's a big departure from Broadwell II where the 6800 could flow 28 and all the rest at 40 so are they going to stand out as well are they going to make the a core more cheaper then I hope so because yeah it has to be yeah has to be much cheaper because if you're going if you're someone like me and I've been looking for I've been waiting for these CPUs because after these come out I'll be deciding between this and risin of what my rig upgrades to because I want to get off X 99 the tomorrow the 69 hundred K I have right now it's gonna be funny to test it against this 78 20 X because it has more pci lanes more cache and and but but the lower clock speeds and it seems like the only thing that's letting it down and probably the IPC will obviously be better on these ones too so it's just an interesting thing from Intel obviously I think they see the price tag that 500 you yes of the 1,800 ex and maybe they're trying to bring it down if that 79 20x came in at 500 us boy now that would be a that would be a good price point to come in um but you be 600 Pro be 600 for the 8 corridor imagine that's about right that's about Intel's level of they'd want to charge a bit more because you know the margins will be higher but one thing that really is sort of is getting me as perplexing me as this boost clock here from the 6 quart of the 8 core you see there the report I mean this is again not official I don't think yeah this is just a leak he's still four gigahertz versus four point five units are they doing a bin job on these chips so they all come from the same skew like well they all come from the central is not the same skew so at the same chip they're just these ones of the most cut down version yeah and things with the most things disabled on the Corbett is that an indication that hey the 8 cores will still kind of be some sort of bin as opposed to the 7800 X and will you indeed on average get higher overclocks out of the 8 core versus the six core because the six cause always been that champion of price performance on Intel's lineup I mean the 5820k really hit the market hard not a lot of guys who are still right on the 5820k and don't care about upgrading because there really is no need upgrade if you're on a 5820k and so but this time around if they're going to have a chip that runs significantly slower or at least doesn't overclock as high as the Acorn and I think that'd be a point for the eight core to go for the a core yeah exactly right and I mean picking on it for the PCI lanes isn't completely fair because if you're going if you're deciding out of that and rising remember rising can only go up to said 24 a on the rise and sevens the top I think Jetts believe 24 so these will still have four more than the top risin and when these come outs so that'll be interesting we'll talk about the 16 core raisins a bit later but these top ones will be good too the fact they got 44 I was talking to Steve about it from hydrobox last night and we were discussing how many lanes at an average consumer really need and yet most people will not require more than that the average gaming room in the average gamer would only need like 16 like yeah 20 plus nvme SSD so is it you know because even then a lot of graphics cards can't saturate the PC a 3.0 so I'd say 20 or 24 is is very mainstream of course I need to put in a capture card and put in some extra devices via PCIe so 28 would be pretty much a sweet spot for me personally mmm yeah that might yes oh that's interesting in the the weirdest thing about this though the weirdest by far is those kb like x ones because what i don't really see why they exist to begin with um but whatever but what makes it even worse is that 76 40k they're calling it an i7 that's a 4 core 4 thread CPU what on earth Intel maybe I know maybe they can do as usual you'll see dude maybe they can have the option because it has the option you can download more threads maybe those fish makes why that's why make a full or a quad core 4 thread CPU on socket 2066 like I my only thought with these is that it's for people that want to get on X 299 but they don't want they don't need that big CPU power which maybe there's people out there that need that um but yeah it's just find out these the CPU seem very bizarre but the rest of them seem quite interesting the I nines so it should be about the pricing that's what we don't know right now is the pricing and if these are going to come in at a very high price point I mean you'll probably end up seeing these at Computex well I'll say say I was gonna say we go into Computex I'll be doing full coverage on this so you can see what's going on see what the real deal is see the price points they're going to hit out giving you guys my thoughts and opinions but as I've said before I'm kind of waiting for their next gen six core 12 threaded mainstream CPU I think that if a can overclock as high as cabby leek and they do it right then that's going to be a hard-hitting CPU so that's the one I'm most curious about and there's no information on that there's just X 299 which in ways you know risin is really bringing competition to this lineup even before this is very even released so yeah I know yes let us know what you think of the i9 are you going to get 99 so we go here the next one Alan Wake is getting removed from digital stores due to expiring my music licenses so I just went and bought this copy and get it on Steam the actual story and steam itself for like three dollars ninety nine USD so they've just reduced this game ninety percent off on Steam because the music licenses are running out and I guess the sales of the game I just aren't enough to renew those music licenses so they just late look we're just going to let this game sort of not be for sale after literally today so that life is like 18 hours left to go get this game so I went and bought it give it a go so you can get affiliate like three dollars so really cheap yet and twenty game now as well I mean it's seven years old so um but yeah it was it's quite scary if you don't handle horror very well like me then you probably want to give it a mess I just watched it I just watched a playthrough but the rest of it yeah it's it yeah it's quite it's quite a cool game that was very um right when it came out at the time I remember it was quite a cool story that had a departure from a lot of the cliches that the horror video game industry was sort of stuck and back then yeah we'd have to do a whole PC what do you recognise Alan Wake PC what do you think of that Jesus if I run into Grady yeah at penny mg 45 60 and that's it so you hear next up we've got thread ripper from AMD so apparently they've got two lineups coming to Naples which is the server dedicated CPU with two plus No dude there so you can interconnect two of these CPUs and you got thread Ripper which is meant to be I guess more of a workstation orientated CPU with being a single node and both coming out on AMD's X 390 or X 3 9 9 platform I guess it has been confirmed that AMD wilt we'll talk about that now quickly AMD at Computex so AMD have confirmed at Computex that they will be showcasing the x3 99 platform platform and that's huge x3 99 platform and a radeon vega so they're both going to be at Computex they're both going to announce these arm both these lineup of CPU architecture and video card architecture so kind of wait for that but on that let's get back to the thread at hand here so with that we've got X 3 9 X 3 9 9 motherboards one being only one node that means you can only use one CPU and then the other you can use two or more so I think spread rip is going to be very interesting and I think from thread Ripper we can still derive I guess predictions for the yeah 2 + Naples anyway yeah we can you can kind of the the way the Whitehaven or a thread repair will be yeah up to a 16 core so this and this will be coming out not too long after I believe that 12 course Kali kicks will be coming out so that will give it some pretty fierce competition straight off the bat the l3 cache is enormous at 32 megabytes like wow and the TDP Zhou Oh getting up there - apparently 180 watts kind of makes you remember back to the old 95 90 with that 220 watt TDP and people thought that was outrageous and now we're sort of heading there the same time there's actually a pretty incredible performance so at least with workstation stuff so that will be quite good a quad channel memory as well coming so that'll be good um what people a lot of people complained about with X 370 although I honestly thought it was fine that it didn't feature it because it wasn't really that much of a detractor for the vast majority of the consumers I don't think really cared about that and but for those that did then X 399 will have that therefore you see this will be quite good in competition the clock speeds as you can see are not going to be the the greatest in terms of what by comparison to Skyler cakes but in just pure power I think it will make up for it being that it will have 16 cores 16 good course to and 32 threads more callers it also it also wastes Intel because there they took their naming scheme what's going to happen with the next is Intel just going to have to jump like they did program from X 99 to X to 99 you know because I can't go to X 399 now they'll have to jump it'll you know they like to change it I was I mean it was it was a good move from AMD I thought it was a smart move that's i mean ii x 399 a guys we got the best just binary 99 sounds better than 299 right yes well that's the thing that's the thing as much as people like as much as us guys who know what it's all about don't really care about the namings there's a lot of guys who just walk into computer stores and they see numbers o X 399 a that must be better the next 299 I'm going to get that and they didn't even think twice they just see oh it's got more cause - what's there not to like about this I'll buy it now a named DS defense this time around they've got a really good architecture so hey they're offering really good value for money but um yeah I don't know what Intel's going to do in response to that I think yeah they probably just end up probably just jumping and going to a whole new lineup of CPUs and motherboards and yeah yeah so the quad channel memory does excite me a little bit especially once we get there you get four sticks in there and you start seeing how much of a difference it really makes the games you know there's this whole thing about oh you know dual channel but hey let's check out quad channel and see how much of a difference you make it makes the games yeah so people like you know I get my memory too 3,800 megahertz or something and it's just killing games it's beating everything now it's not like yeah probably not so they gets the quad-channel get to confirm that so that'll be a good thing about quad-channel we can finally test games in quad and see how much of a difference it makes but yeah the key actually said before the clock speeds are significantly lower but that's to be expected as you get more cause you get more heat and yeah helping to do a bit difficult yeah it'll be going to be difficult and and seeing how much rise in likes memory right now fast memory um that'll also be interesting from going from Jill to quad channel but uh yeah you'll be able to overclock these so I mentioned you'll be able to take them a bit higher I can't imagine it would go over 4 gigahertz to be perfectly honest with you guys I don't really see it at 16 core I reckon you'll probably get like 3.8 3.9 out of it um depending on how you want to do it if you're just wanting it to go on a single core but that that no one would be buying one of these for gaming I would imagine um they would be buying for gaming and productivity or just straight productivity so that it will still be interesting but this is definitely aimed at those high-end enthusiasts and the people out there or the workstation guys that just need that raw power and depending on the price point again that this guy will be coming in it because we don't know what it'll be um you could say because it's double a rising 7 that you could just double like in 1800 X but I don't think that'll be fair I doubt it will be like a thousand u.s. I I would imagine this will probably come in at I'm thinking maybe 750 or something u.s. what do you reckon Brian for the thread Ripper it depends yeah I mean either be a bit more I'd say the charge 800 for at 900 possibly even a thousand just depends and do you have to make money man at 750 then opportu be making much money on a 16 course so it yeah it said coming around a thousand bucks with a 16 called the East really is that high well they have to man you have to yeah you can't be selling stuff like you look at 300 I can see that the yesterday digit yesterday's build the thousand seven 1700 s coming in at 310 bucks that's there that's essentially AMD's flagship at this very point in time 300 bucks man they're not making a whole lot of money you know people like others the 1800 X they're the same thing like you just have to overclock so yeah it's kind of like they need to start releasing that exclusive product that's really up there and it's making the company a bit of money I mean I'm sure no enthusiast is going to felt hard you know felt hard done by because they can't get a 16 core for relatively the same price in comparison to an 8 core oh it's not it's not six hundred and twenty dollars bang my chest yeah I mean can't guys like aim D have to start making profits and if they don't then they're going to end up in the same situation they were in a few years ago where they were just really struggling so interesting you don't offer they've got this PCIe graphics Lancias I'm reading that right 44 lanes from the CPU and then you've got an extra eight lanes from the chip so fifty two lanes in total that's pretty huge so there's a lot of PCIe lanes so thread rip is definitely going to shape up to be something that will hopefully benefit people on workstations and make a good alternative to what's out there of course 4,000 pins is a lot of pins ya know edition and I think for you guys out there the fans you're going to see a lot of your favorite chick youtubers um changing CPUs this year if they haven't already switched to Verizon I think you'll see a lot maybe we'll switch to Scylla kicks maybe some will switch to this 16 cool risin the thread Ripper I've changed everything man I like experiencing everything so I think after a few months I'll even do a breakdown of Verizon what it's like compared to an Intel 6 core and I mean honestly I haven't really done it too soon because there's not much of a difference like my life has changed yeah okay like experiencing everything everyone that is your anything that's it all sides of the party don't you get everything else it and I if you never go you never know [Laughter] that's it so you got to experience all angles man yeah oh I'm not doubting you okay I said that's the creek oh this year I think you guys are we are watching watching a lot of your tech youtubers and you'll see them change I think there'll be a lot of personal rig update type videos coming out okay so now we got Amy's starship as well which apparently they've got this on a a sleek slide from video cards so 2018 7 nanometre this just seems a little bit too much for me you know because it just they're just starting to roll out they're you know they're really high core high threaded enthusiast and server based CPUs now where's this 7 nanometre cut it just seems way too aggressive way too soon more of a news kind of click Beatty kind of thing it's like okay how they going to drop down to seven nanometer now with 48 cause 96 threads and it's saying he x86 so I know people will be like oh it's going to be on a RM or something like that but not saying here x86 so I just think that one's way too soon way too much maybe we should move on did last year that it could have been they could be meaning the end of the end of next year I mean so because I mean Naples isn't even out yet this is where AMD will be making the big profit margins everything else it's saying that it was really like quarter to 2018 yeah I think it will get pushed back though I think it will more likely be Q through q3 q4 2018 because it will be on the is into architecture be it that that would really do a good blow to Intel because the xeon e7 z-- the the new naming scheme the gold and platinum they will be going up to 32 cores so if AMD can get a out of 48 core i mean we're gonna have to see the power consumption as well I mean Naples itself is going to be a beast being 32 core 64 threads um so that will be quite interesting to how the how much power they use TDPS rated for between 35 and 180 watts for naples whereas the xeon e7 ziz looking like 110 260 um a lot more cash as well on that Naples then um the the Xeon so that will be interesting too but this is good this is at least it's good the Intel has some competition and the silver platform market because they've just had a like a monopoly for ages and they've been milking that monopoly like crazy you know making so much money so it's good that Andy's bringing some competition here and I think it's good that they're aggressive by I'm with you Brian I think this is very ambitious to replace Naples after only 12 months um but you know it's happened with the Xeon so could be possible it's going to be it'll it'll be a big blow to Intel if they do achieve this um the they'd have to do something crazy with the Zeon's I did yeah so I mean that's I mean when we're going to go to copy text we're going to see what it's all about really so we can only speculate so far Naples I mean I'm honestly not feel like I said before I'm not too interested in the higher past 8 core 16 threads I'm really not interested I think it's a waste of money even for someone like me who can multitask and utilize a lot of calls and threads past 8 cores 16 threads with good IPC and high over clocks I don't need a whole lot like that kind of power really is starting to be a waste especially when it these are made for the enterprise market not the consumer market those and look at our audio data service how many go yeah I know I'm just saying yeah yeah I know it's not not so much for the audience but more for the fact that a lot of people want AMD they're worried about them financially and this is what should help bring them back they can sell heaps of rising consumer CPUs and that will helped them but this is where they'll make their big money and this is what will bring aim d/dx they have that's I'll say if they have flagships I mean they have to outperform the competition and they have to be really good the consumer flagships are still a big profit Avenue and you can't deny that oh I'm not denying it I'm just saying that this will be more profit here but then look at this there's not going to be loud I see really the average consumer wanting to go and buy a 16 call 32 threaded CPU especially when the risin 310 bucks you know to be any Moses programming visualizing or not exactly I mean any business have to have a reason to do it so I mean Intel's knocking on their door giving them incentive so it's going to be interesting to see how it plays out but again yeah it will be again with that one I can only now can't really speculate a whole lot but we can speculate on this one and videos first Volta powered GPU sits in at a hundred and forty nine thousand now speaking of flagship speaking of profit this is what NVIDIA does they've got a literally they've got this new graphics card architecture that's announced it's designed for deep learning they've put really big focus on deep learning in here and big charging for it so you get eight of these GPUs in a box and they're charging 150 grand for it and honestly they're probably going to be selling it because of the power that a bose mmm I can do so much more than a server could do and it's so good so tiny so I mean the invidious direction I remember we called this out a few years ago they were getting into cars they're getting into this deep learning sort of Avenue and it's really paying off for them because not only are they getting a lot more money from it as a company standpoint there have got a lot more R&D money now and they're branching that down to ask gamers so we're benefiting from it too of course there's the whole competition argument but at least in vidi has been a healthy company they're doing their thing they're getting into big business they're getting very profitable and of course we've seen year-on-year just gains from Nvidia in terms of GPU performance to us can choose so some that I really like it something that I really like about video and they're doing that so this thing is just absolutely huge apparently we've got 5120 CUDA cores now this is for business guys this is when we're gonna when we're going to see voltar for consumers I have no idea invidious really just said look this is we've got this card it's here it utilizes HBM it has a massive amount of cores the die is freaking huge what's the size of the die 800 850 millimeters squared yeah so it's one of the biggest dies ever to ever but is it biggest I ever I think one of the giant I think it's the yeah one of the largest silicon chips ever produced period it's almost twice the size of a tiny XP chip that's as people pointed out last time with Vega as well these chips are utilizing HBM you can see here so that's making the die bigger so yeah hpm - yeah that will obviously yes so that will bring quite a bit bigger arm that sits on the 12 nanometer process they're saying it's a dramatic that the architecture is dramatically different from Pascal rather than just a simple die shrink so that's quite interesting - and Nvidia's R&D budget as you were mentioning before has actually been increasing so it hasn't a lot of people think maybe that they were sitting on their hands but it definitely doesn't seem like that remember thing we're seeing and video is number one when it comes to graphics cards and they're definitely wanting to keep that position because they're investing a lot of money in this and EH bm2 clocked at one point seven five gigahertz on a huge 4096 bit bus that's going to be just crazy so this obviously isn't going to be for consumers but we can learn a bit about this and the fact that the architecture is so different means that it should be quite interesting when Volta comes out for the people that have been waiting for it or maybe once Vega comes out they'll wait to see what Nvidia releases to compete with it yeah this could be very very good I expect Volta to be extremely powerful yeah they'll be releasing one of these cards apiece I a slight version for around about 10,000 so if you can't wait for the consumer version you can go out and pop one of these in your rig just let me know how it performs that's all so yeah it's a very very crazy design it's a radically new architecture and they're going for 12 nanometer so they are shrinking down that is confirmed so what you've got here is again and this is an even the I think they've still cut off some of these CUDA cores as well like it's apparently it was at five thousand three hundred and seventy-six or something like that so this isn't even the full-fledged version of this GPU so maybe in another years time you might see like a consumer-grade 5300 CUDA cord GPU so stay tuned for it it's going to be absolutely massive but this is what's installed in the pipeline for US consumers essentially it will trickle down eventually yeah so that's a good thing yeah here it is it's been announced and how does it perform in games I think they didn't even do they showcase any they just showcase really some um VR kind of thing with it I remember I watched a little bit of livestream they had a car and it just went out sort of and sort of mapped itself and they'll people for people like talking or interacting and yeah it was basically they're taking this is a business dedicated graphics card for deep learning and for helping people with whatever modeling everything like that so out of my depth as well I'm only just looking at games me yeah so yeah looking forward to this but here it is it's been announced its official 12 nanometers huge amount of CUDA cores can utilize HBM to but I'm sure a lot of the consumer-grade I'm sure a lot of the less you tie this article in here I'm sure a lot of the consumer great graphics cards will be utilizing gd-r five six now so six and we got the article up here SK Hynix has kind of like announced their GD r6 at GTCC so the same time Nvidia announced their volt are the boys over at SK Hynix said look we've got GD r6 ready it's essentially doubled the speed so you can expect double what you're getting so sixteen thousand megahertz effective on your memory as opposed to eight so hopefully I mean I don't exactly know how it works but that's what it seems like and that's how it seems it'll work so that's going to be huge for those mid-range graphics cards or even mid upper range graphics cards like we're at ten seventy is at the moment I think that's the next ten seventy will utilize this quite well yeah what what Nvidia plans to do with HB m2 on consumer graphics cards is anyone's guess at the moment I'd say they'd have a top tier card like the Titan X maybe the Titan whatever Titan W and Titan V that's probably what it'd be called do you reckon yeah yeah yeah there we go so Titan V that'll be out and expect to see an article in like two days time WC CF tech Titan V rumors and some fake for that's the fake slide it's going to have this in the HBM too so arm yeah I'm looking forward to that but that'll probably be the upper card HBM two yards last things I mean it's it's going to be interesting as far as memory goes on with these new GPUs I mean we pretty much know that Vega will have HBM too but would it be interesting to see what volt it comes with and on all the different models that will be coming out all the different SKUs you'll be able to pick from yeah I think yeah I'd imagine you were right they'll probably save HBM too for the very high ones maybe not just the Titans I'd imagine they're 20 80 TI or whatever would probably get it too but I yeah hopefully GD r6 makes it into the lineup because is it is it out is that what they're saying or is it although now said it's ready so it'll be here I guess it will it will be pretty much officially hitting volta cards yeah that's pretty much confirmed when they're when volt is coming out exactly I mean I don't know but just vault is there I'm sure Nvidia is even working on their next architecture that probably had sex was too close to alpha yeah so September October guy says what I would imagine in video is not going to they're gonna want voltar out for the the Christmas period I guarantee it they'll have it out for them because that's when they'll make time next week yeah so anyway guys we've got here up next here the NSA so a group of hackers stole some tools and now they're using them for nefarious purposes so what have you made out of this cyberattacks so essentially what are they using like wanna cry and all this so they infect the computers via however it can be via some fishy websites or via advertising and then they hold you to ransom where you have to pay 300 bucks on Bitcoin per Drive my sister actually got held up I want to say yeah my sister got held up and I just said look just yeah have you got your stuff backed up on a USB stick she's like yeah I actually do I'm like I just can't read you know reformat the whole hard drive GG where you go don't pay them anything don't yeah this is this this is quite interesting so apparently they called the shadow brokers and the they used a tool which the NSA used to use or maybe still does it seems to just have affected people running on updated systems but mainly hit a lot of people running Windows XP and so it's sort of a good thing that you always update your PC um and maybe all the people on Windows 10 may be doing all their on it now ah so yeah this is this is interesting that the it basically encrypts your files and you have to pay a certain amount of Bitcoin and then it will ah be fine I think I think it deletes the files or if you wait too long the price goes up or something like that so yeah but not apparently someone's already figured it out one guy I was reading they said I think it was a 22 year old I had already figured out how to beat it a sign but the sad thing is is that this is hit apparently one of the worst places was the DHS and the UK which is their health their public health system and all their computers there and that's interrupted all the hospitals and stuff from what I was reading anyway so it's not really good and then when these guys get caught that do because they attacked Russia and other places as well see you pretty much you know going to have everybody going after you um you're going to go to prison for probably the rest of their lives so and like do reckon you'll start seeing guys on University campuses running around just manually putting this into people species like some guy with a hoodie on like you what up man that's probably what like the news things like happens but it's like something you would see on CNN but yeah that money as someone will do it I reckon someone will do it maybe a matter of time before someone actually physically goes onto people's computers and installs this crap I only get that cash sir yes on that news of dodgy software and dodgy programs I've got HP so contains a key logger so if you guys are on some of these laptops on if you guys have a HP laptop you know someone who's on a particular model I believe it's the it's built into the Audio Driver so there was a person who it was a mod 0 these guys here they found it in the audio drive it's essentially a keylogger stroke it records everything you say I mean not everything everything you type you know probably could even do things that you say maybe about a know we got HP Elite Pro books elite books more elite books ebooks and the operating system spanned from a wide variety of ten to seven and even embedded so if you guys are on a HP laptop you might want to check this out I put actually put the link to this article in the description below so if you know someone who's on HP laptop might want to tell them give them a heads up and say look you know you might have a key logger it's in courtesy of HP a keylogger built into your computer which is pretty sad like it's not really good news for HP but man nothing worse than a key logger knowing that every key you type is getting recorded so that's pretty bad yeah no it's pretty it's yeah that's what's weird about it as well as where they put it you see where they put in the audio track yeah it's also yeah yeah it's like bizarre um yeah no it's not good and last on the news here we have invidious financial quarter one is up 48 percent now Nintendo switched sales of course helped I don't think it really I mean it's some people be like oh yeah then intend to switch sales yeah it did help it did account for anything 192 million of its tagra revenue and I mean the switch is selling really well I know a lot of people have bought a switch I was thinking about it but I was like ah like look only gaming that I do guys is PC gaming unfaithful to my PC okay ain't cheating on this thing ain't going anywhere I ain't cheating on yeah so as I realized in the end so faithful to the PC I know a lot of you guys out there are faithful to your pcs as well yeah but we look at the revenue it's up like that's the thing even if the switch did 192 million look at that it's not like six hundred and twenty-two million so up 48 percent compared to the same quarter last year that is HUGE if it is just making the box see the margins I was telling you guys last week about the margins in videos gross margin is huge as well 60% in tells us 60 something percent AMD's was down to like 30 was at 34 percent so am d have to pick up their margins these margins are healthy Intel's margins are healthy and of course this revenue is huge the increase so it's not just the Tegra cells obviously the deep learning program everything else that they're doing but that is making up I think it has a report here so automotive industry yes so that Nvidia is just putting their hands everywhere and it's just like success so there you go what you have to say about the the juggernaut that is in video no I mean it's good that the profit margins are there as we talked about earlier here and you just said that the nd profit margins it's good that they got back into it I mean you you must submit this is what they've done Verizon is really good to bring people back onto a MD based systems um by probably not running very big margins on their rise and CPUs was a good move but yeah the that they have to bring up the their profit margins which is kind of its kind of really really ironic that they were competing sort of like their GPU competitions gone down but now the CPU competitions gone up it's kind of just yeah really like and I'm really I wish they would hit hard on both fronts but again we've we've gone down this Avenue a lot of times many times before so crazy out of that yeah and it says some QA just just lighten the mood up guys some QA so Oh only one question ah I feel so lonely this week so we got here some questions uh but it's a couple of questions so for Kevin what's the story behind Teddy yeah do you want to share this story behind Teddy Yoko's not a very long story but yeah the so um my brother when he was living in Singapore sent me titty as like a birthday present and then I thought you know be quite cool to keep him in the videos um so it was sort of like having my brother in my videos because I didn't see him very often so um that's how it kind of started and then I just get two men as like a co-host plus I always just thought he was kind of funny because I used to watch mr. bean when I was growing up and I always thought it was funny him and Teddy Bay in the TV show so yeah that that's why I I kept him on um do you want to stop calling him brother Teddy this is my curse brother the teddy no that sounds like but this but the but that yeah I I just give to do something different I mean the thing is with YouTube in general there's a lot of people are scared to do anything different with their channel but you have to do something because it's such an oversaturated platform you have to make yourself stand out from the crowd for us you're going to be glanced over and to assume degree I probably still AM glanced over but at least you have something that makes you different look at all the top youtubers and there's something that makes them different the way they make their videos or how they act on the camera or what they're about or what if it is always something that makes them very different you don't get to get like a million subscribers plus by being just like everybody else so there is a reason why people keep coming back to your videos in that um so it's good to be different that's my advice I'd say to you guys as well if you're starting a YouTube channel yeah there you go guys you've got Teddy's co-host yeah all right so we got here love sporting the Illidan Stormrage background wallpaper yeah I love World of Warcraft a big fan even though I don't get to play it much yeah I guess you could call me a bit of an early worshipper even back in the Warcraft three days it was such a really rogue captors really cool and yellow to like the background as well it's a pretty cool background so yeah big WOW fan of it ever since that game dropped in like what was it 2004 to those like everyone at first dropped man it was just crazy I had friends who didn't even play PC games I like dude you know I made like a Turin warrior I'm like huh like dude yeah yeah you never play PC games what the hell's going on so yeah was this one of those games that was iconic and it still just carries a real soft spot and that's why I buy like every expansion even though I didn't really get time to enjoy it much so one of these days men one of these days I will have a holiday and play through the whole well expansion and enjoy it thoroughly enjoy it I'm sure so can you guys think of that single defining moment you fell in love with tech all things tech and decided that you were going to live breathe and eat tech so what about you keV um I can't think of the defining moment but for me it was it kind of came in two doses so when I was about 15 years old I started getting into tech heavily back then and then I sort of only kind of half kept up with it and then about four years ago I got really back into it again at the tail end of I remember it by gpus with the tail end of the Nvidia 400 series and when Sandy Bridge was very new and then I got back into it then and then I started getting into it much more heavily to like the enthusiast type degree and watching YouTube channels back then I was watching Linus and and it was really good and I got really into it so I sort of came to me and kind of two doses um but yet lately it's only been since sort of Sandy Bridge I would say that I was really sort of solidly following everything tech before then it was a bit more sporadic ie breh Warcraft 2 was when I first was introduced to awesome PC games a member Warcraft to men I was just loving that remember I first played I remember my friend lent it to me because I was a big console like played Nintendo's and stuff I would have been like what 11 years old or something man like anyway I was I was just talking up Zelda all the time and he's like hey did you try Warcraft 2 and I tried it I think that was the first all-nighter ever pulled in my life just like glued to this machine playing Warcraft tools oh man this is amazing and everything about us of blizzards games were just so good the voice acting even back then was so good even with Warcraft 2 everything you didn't realize it at the time like I was only a kid but now that I look back at Warcraft 2 everything was good the gameplay was good the music was good the sound the voice acting was just on point and that's why that's why I love some of the old-school games of course it really started with brood war or when I only had a 100 megahertz machined with the tube I had a turbo button like legit I still had one of those on my machine and it just ran brood Lord Warwick crap so I got out the newspaper and I was looking through and you know there was like you could go and buy an all-in-one which was just ridiculously expensive back in those days or you could just build it yourself remember there's this place called game to computer know like okay you can build this this if you buy all your own parts as their own why not give it a go built a AMD k4 50 oh man I gotta get I've actually got to build my first PC that I built and redo it that'd be cool because then I can refresh myself with all the parts everything I used I didn't overclock it always had no idea what overclocking was back then this was built it but as time went on I started to like enjoy tech and I wanted to get the most out of it and it became just a really good passion you need them now it's just what it is take yes city bro what's also good when we got into it when we did in a lot of ways because um the industry's just growing so massive now in terms of like see what we're seeing in PC hardware sales and everything is going through the roof so it's good that that we got into it when we did um of course there were people that were in terms of making the videos as well but you know there were the oh geez that were there from the start and they were really in from the start but uh the rest of the rest of us I think still got in at a good point yeah question number two I'm not going to answer you can answer it if you want let's see okay um oh why did why didn't you want answer it well yeah the lissa I did I couldn't couldn't do things sir what's that I was just reading there's another person had posted a question just underneath it yeah um and that's the thing like I've you know legitimately like I do videos because I love doing videos for you guys I mean yes money is an important thing and you have to make money at the end of the day so what people do to make money man yeah like you know I could be selling my butt out at night you know to make ends meet so it's just like at the end of the day though like yet when we announce patron and stuff like that you know you become a patron that things like that do help the channel I don't beg for patron but of course just understand it like if you do donate money it's going to a cause of just us to keep doing videos for you guys that's all it is you know YouTube is really a weird really weird kettle of fish they'll favor certain channels and they'll just promote those channels like no tomorrow and if you're that channel you've got to be loving life you get the views you get near the companies come and wanted to join you guys like me Steve and keV we don't get that mainstream love from YouTube we never have so it's kind of like we've got a grind and grind and grind and I enjoy the grind I do enjoy making videos but at the same time it's not like even though the channels at 100 and you just hit up 193,000 it's not like man I guarantee you the average Ozzie working a regular job is making more than me they're getting more free time than I am as well I guarantee you that I only do this because I love doing it even still it's not massive box so yeah and you know it's um and I mean there's been the the ad issue now which has hit quite a few people that's worse lately yeah that's been the biggest thing this YouTube hole shake-up which I believe is in place because they're you know you heard the news they're willing and Ellen DeGeneres and stuff like that they're getting all these big names and making more TV g-rated friendly and stuff like that that's the real sort of reason they're doing it and that's affected a lot of people I've been affected I know a lot of other people have been affected you said you didn't really get affected by it I did but um for some reason my advertisement from the from Canada actually like that it went up so I don't know what was something there but yeah the rest them went down so has still affected me but I think tech channels generally got away with it a little bit better than other ones yeah there were some channels that just went on dot and they're probably yeah or that'll go on doll because they're just killing the advertising on these poor channels and I feel sorry for a lot of these guys because they built up their YouTube channels to the stage where they're employing people and they've got people relying on them for a paycheck and you know I don't know now you know I yeah I don't really know at the end of the day I don't really know what's going to happen all's I can do is say hey look I'm healthy man I'm going to go overclock myself after this at the gym you're healthy you can just I can jump into a job any job if YouTube failed the next day man it's all good I got friends who will give us a job I got two friends who would like offered as jobs already so it's fine I'm all good don't worry about me I'm a grinder year bright so I hustle alright that's it man you gotta hustle you gotta grind so as long as you're healthy as long as you're healthy and you've got energy and I feel sorry for the people who have disabilities it can't be helped you know that's sad my heart goes out to those people but if you're if you're a guy and you're healthy man don't be afraid don't be scared you know you're healthy you're willing if you've got some intelligence you'll be fine in this world yeah yeah I guess we're going to move over we're going to end this stream I'm going to join the chat chat out if you guys are hanging out in the chat I'll start you know hang out for a couple of minutes ten minutes 20 minutes 30 minutes even an hour I'm going to join the chat hang out with you guys in the chat and we'll catch you next week for another episode of the tech lounge any final closing statements gif I just have new video be coming out tomorrow hopefully that will be the rise in 1,700 versus the rise in 1600 vs. the rising risin 1400 so the quad-core six core and enkorz going up against each other and I'll be basically looking at which one's the best value for money at this stage it's looking like that 1600 but I haven't crunched all the numbers yet so I'll be doing that today and hopefully getting that video up for you guys tomorrow all right awesome so any and we'll have the thread up on taxi DTV slash forums we'll make the new thread for episode 27 if you have questions you can head on over and ask those questions and we'll answer them next week and we'll catch you guys next week peace out for now