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ladies and gentlemen you have been waiting for it and here it is today on tech yes City this is the X 56 75 which is over 8 years old now and is 6 cores 12 threads we managed to clock this up to 4 point 5 gigahertz and use some triple channel ddr3 memory which was at 1800 megahertz now comparing it against the two brand new options we have the risin 5 2,600 clocked at 4.1 gigahertz on a be 350 motherboard and I decided to use 32 hundred megahertz ddr4 memory and then we have the last contender the i5 8400 very much a power efficient sort of brand-new latest IPC best single core performance but is it going to stack up considering can only go up to 26 66 with the ddr4 memory on a h3 70 motherboard and of course for the graphics card we are using the same GPU across all three different rigs this is the Galax GTX 10 atti so let's get this comparison underway so first thing is first we're going to take a look at the streaming benchmarks we'll pull that up because a lot of people will ask me to test some streaming benchmark numbers we're using xsplit 6 megabits per second now there's two ways you can go about this and I wasn't the only person in the studio when I was testing these numbers so people were witnessing what I was talking about and I may make a dedicated video towards this because streaming is not that intensive if you set it up right we're using xsplit we're using the onboard GPU encoder which literally only takes like a six to seven percent hit on the GPU and the CPU feels practically nothing so this is the option that I do recommend as opposed to using the CPU for encoding which in this particular benchmark which is Final Fantasy 15 if we were using the CPU encoding we saw the CPU cores being stressed a lot more than they otherwise would and there was a massive stutter halfway through the run there let's pull up some games at 1080p and 1440p first being Far Cry primal we see at the X 50 675 did score a loss in this benchmark it did fall behind the risin 5 2600 which also fell behind the 8400 and it was in eighth sort of as expected tandem they're moving up to 1440p presented the exact same results moving over across the csgo 1080p same sort of scenario we saw the 8400 out in front followed by the horizon 5 2600 followed by the X 56 75 moving up to 1440p on this same game with higher graphical settings we saw it the exact same trend continuing and then we move on to ashes this is where things changed up a little bit Rison 520 600 did score the victory here coming over 200 FPS as opposed to the 8400 which scored second place and then the X 50 675 scored third place and this was the same scenario in 1440p high settings as well move over to Kingdom Come deliverance and this is at 1080p where the X 56 75 managed to score its first victory over the risin v 2600 I couldn't believe this and I did promise in the livestream that I'd do some jumping jacks if the X 50 675 did score a victory either over one of these two brand-new variants success moving up to 1440p high settings however we did see this trend did change up a little bit and horizon 520 600 did score a little bit better than the x50 675 so those jumping jacks were only temporary now the next game we got up here is dota 2 and at 1080p low settings a hundred percent screen scale we saw pretty much similar results across the board the 8400 was coming slightly ahead it's not jumping jack worthy of course is there is a very close run here and there is a little bit of variance so I'm not gonna do some jumping jacks for this one but moving up to 1440p high settings saw the same trend so dota 2 that wasn't a whole lot of difference between it though moving on to GTA 5 1080p normal settings we did see a sizable or little sizable difference between the X 56 75 and the risin 5 2600 the 8400 came out ahead by quite a bit but this is indeed jumping jack worthy so quite an impressive feat for an eight year old CPU its scoring a minor victory over one of these brand-new variants which is really surprising but moving up now to 1440p we see this trend discombobulate I think that's the way we're going to use and everything sort of returns to normal with the GPU taking a lot more of this drain moving over to the next game we have pub G both 1080p and 1440p settings really showed not much of a difference here it was smooth across all three different rigs there was nothing between these if you want to play pub G on either three of these machines you can have a wonderful experience with a 1080 TI also not to mention that this game does have a 144 Hertz cap so I may actually drop it from further testing in the future and of course the last game was showing here is Final Fantasy 15 we did show it in the streaming benchmarks but of course it's great to sort of get a recap and say that there is no difference this game does have a 120 Hertz cap however it does utilize all cores and all threads if they are available so it was impressive to see the scaling on this game and it does utilize those resources moving up to 1440p does show it's more GPU bound even at high settings we can't even dare go to ultra because that'll tank the FPS even more so we're getting around 100 frames at 1440p which is great if you've got an ultra-wide monitor but we're testing it 1440p to 560 so we would lose even more frames if we went to ultra right not that that's important for this video anyway moving over to productivity we have a few different graphs here some of the most important to paint a picture Cinebench risin 5 2600 scoring number one on both the single threaded and multi-threaded performance 8400 coming last and the multi-threaded performance becoming second place in the single threaded and the of course the x50 675 putting on a very impressive display scoring over a thousand see be on that multi-threaded test maybe two v-ray sort of a similar trend in the CPU side of things except the 8400 did beat the X 56 75 by a little bit Rison 520 600 did like it was blazingly fast going well ahead of the bell curve on this particular benchmark but another benchmark we're going through now is the v-ray GPU side now I don't even know why I run this to begin with I guess I just drink my cup of coffee or cup of tea and afk while the benchmark completes itself but when I get back I've got the GPU score there and surprisingly enough the x50 675 shaved off one second it's got one minute 6 seconds first the others which got 1 minute 7 seconds so I was really surprised to see that it shaved off at 1 second now the difference is been between these two platforms the big ones being that this is a pcie 2.0 vs. pci 3.0 and also we have ddr3 memory versus ddr4 memory but whatever the deal it makes the GPU run just that little bit better in this particular benchmark though continuing on with the benchmarks we've got here at Dobie Premiere Pro 4k render file final render times the rise in 5 2,600 scores the victory by quite a bit then it's followed by the 8400 which is then followed by the X 56 75 so kind of as expected though one thing to take out of this is that you could edit videos on any three of these pcs absolutely fine though in the past one I've tested music mix downs I have made the tracks around about 4 to 5 minutes which is more realistic but this time for benchmark purposes we're gonna go unrealistic 35 minute track we saw the differences here there weren't that big to begin with but the Rosen 520 600 did come out in front and these were all rendering close to 30 times real-time render so if you need music production then three of these rigs will do a phenomenal job at least in pros onus studio one anyway the last bench while we're pulling up here 7-zip decompression and compression I'll surprised to see the X 56 75 coming out quite far ahead of the 8400 the 8400 did come last here and then the risin five 2600 came out in front so if you're into decompressing and compressing zip files all day then the rather by 2600 will be the best option for you though of course that last benchmark we're going to pull up is one that's actually been heavily requested and that's power consumption so all these three rigs overclocked and you will want to overclock the X 56 75 because it does have a lot of potential we can see it's getting over 200 watts on load which is a little bit scary I mean of course I'm not gonna sit here and say that's an amazing thing but it's 70 watts a roughly 70 watts in front of the horizon 520 600 which is then actually quite a sizable gap over the 8400 so the 8400 actually if it's one thing to come out of this it's very power efficient and for gaming it's very relevant and the reason being is because you can save money on a power supply as well you don't have to go out and buy a 650 watt Gold rated power supply you can get away with a 450 watt bronze rated power supply with an 8400 and then couple in a decent GPU your Holman hos gtx 1070 whatever if you're coming at gtx 1070 with the x-15 675 for example then i would recommend maybe going with a 550 or 650 watt power supply just to be on the safe side so there's that difference to consider and also of course the power savings that you will save on your power bill if for instance you're playing World of Warcraft for eight hours a day that will add up over time and will save you a little bit of money not to mention it will make your room a little bit cooler when it's all said and done that we have here the six cores versus six cores versus six cores with the best GPU available to consumers at the moment that is the GTX 280 Ti and where does this leave my old school favorite CPU and motherboard combination of all time well actually leaves it in a really good spot because every time I've picked up an X 58 motherboard I've picked it up for an absolute bargain now of course the X 56 75 you can pick them up off Aliexpress if you want to pay market rates pick up for like 40 50 dollars they do go down in times in price to like $30 off eBay I've seen sales for them so for that money for the CPU itself it's phenomenal value for money there's no denying that not only that you can go get cheap ddr3 memory which a lot of people just give away practically with PCs or they sell on local listings for very cheap and then you've got yourself the base for a very potent gaming machine keep in mind we tested with a 1080i we can step down to a gtx 1070 and these differences that you see between the 8400 and the rise of our 2600 in the x-15 675 they'll even become that much insignificant to the point where it's not going to make a difference at all of course as much sentimental value as x58 has in the hype that I do here on the channel for it going new is what most people will want to do you've got your new features like USB front out head of pcie 3.0 RGB lighting a lot of the times not only that you've got more power efficiency and warranty available of parts breakdown generally used parts you only get a couple of months because that's what you paid for on eBay or you paid from PayPal but if you're getting local deals well the time you've got no warranty at all so you do that run that risk but one thing that I've never talked about before with x58 one thing that does make it kind of even more special is the fact that a lot of people bought x58 motherboards with the i7 920 and that's a fork or eight threaded part and they didn't overclock at all and so these motherboards have been babied their whole life and I will say one thing about most x58 motherboards they were built phenomenally well they were built to handle six cores to all threads overclocked so if you find one and it's a good price I generally snap it up that would be my advice with the Westmere six core 12 threaded Zeon's on those x58 motherboards they did surprise me they are still relevant so if people do call them irrelevant I want you guys to point them to this video here because they can still get up and boogie in 2018 even if you're streaming even if you're playing games with a 1080 Ti the Altima leaf it's one thing to come out of today's video it's that I don't think CPUs have come that far at all in the last 10 years in fact a lot of these power efficiency improvements that you're seeing have probably come from the fact that we've gone from 45 nanometer down to 32 nanometer in the case of the Westmere CPUs then down to 22 nanometer and down to 14 nanometer on Intel side of things rosin 2600 is now on 12 nanometer - so that's where you're going to get a lot of those power saving features from in terms of raw architectural improvements I don't think we've seen a whole lot as opposed the GPU side of things when Nvidia for example went from Kepler to Maxwell I thought there was a massive difference in power efficiency and also that enabled them to then extract more gains anyway if you enjoyed today's video then be sure to hit that like button and let me know in the comments section below what you think of six cores versus six 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