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The X5650 (@4ghz) vs 5820k (@4.2ghz) vs 1231v3 (@3.8ghz) - Is Buying a Used PC Worth It?

2015-04-10
so let's have a look at the to secondhand workstations I recently built which just came under five hundred dollars for the both of them however today were mainly going to be focusing on this one though which is the X 5650 which is a six for twelve threaded Beast which came out to be the most expensive of the two though it certainly does perform well for the money and I've also benchmarked it against the 5820k and the 1231 v3 with the GTX 970 so let's take a look at this welcome back to tech yestiny this is Brian and today I'm going to talk to you guys about the two workstations I recently built for under $500 however today I will be putting the main focus on this as the other one which came just over $100 isn't too important and it's not really worth talking about though that is one important thing with that rig and I'll talk about it more at the end of the video though let's focus on this rig here and we'll tally up the total costs so for this rig it came in at about 380 dollars though one thing to note is that I did get the ddr3 memory for free kind of borrowing it from work on the pretense that I have to use this at work also the SSD was a review sample so if you had to tell you those two parts into the whole total I'd say it would come around just under $500 and though for the performance in the bang for buck it is certainly worth it with this thing performing pretty much better than the four core has well overclocked and then seriously putting out some serious figures when it came to gaming as well with the GTX 970 so now let's get onto some benchmarks which I'm sure you guys are dying to see and this was clocked at 4 gigs with 12 gigabytes of ddr3 memory at 1600 megahertz I'll put the exact specs in the description below for you guys of all three rigs but anyway let's get on with some benchmarks you so now time for the conclusion and I'll talk about a few other things here but let's do it clean-cut and simple and first of all if you already have an x58 motherboard and an i7 920 then upgrading to the fx50 650 is a complete no-brainer in my opinion you see that you're getting over 50 percent more out of your CPU in productivity also since it's a drop down from 45 nanometer to 32 nanometer you're also going to get better performance in games so Wow I mean considering you get it from anywhere from 60 to 100 dollars this CPU is absolutely phenomenal value for money and I think the best person who would take advantage of this CPU would be that person who has already got an x58 motherboard that supports the X 5650 so if you if you want to know if your motherboard supports the CPU I'll put a list in the description below where you can check out the compatibility which boards are compatible with the X 5650 so let's get on to the next segment now and that is the beginner or the person buying their first rig and I'm going to say this is the part or this is the group that I wouldn't recommend the second hand rig to mainly because of you running a lot of risks more so than buying brand new the first reason is you're running is that when you buy used generally you're not going to get a refund I mean especially where I am there's just options going up with plain and simple writing no claim no return and as in the case of the other rig and I'll quickly talk about that read the W 35 20 and the X 58 t power that motherboard had four dims which just didn't work it registered in the BIOS but it just wouldn't register the RAM in Windows and so I don't know if that's a compatibility problem with the biostar motherboard I don't know if it's a faulty motherboard and I just simply don't have time to diagnose that on a 50-dollar motherboard nor can I get my money back so that's the risks you run when you buy used thankfully this rig worked out all ok and it's fantastic value for money though if it's the your first rig and that's your only rig you're going to have the trouble of overclocking in because overclocking on this thing is a lot more difficult than your simple Haswell 4 core where you only bumping up the voltage and multiply it pretty much on this there's a lot of other variables that you have to look out for and you have to know what tests to do in order to see if it's stable so it's actually in that that being said it's a lot of fun and I'll talk about that in the next group of people but if it's your first PC and you can't risk not having a working PC then I'd simply not recommend the used workstation or the used parts for that kind of group now let's get on to the last group of people and that is the person with a bit of experience overclocking and building pcs and someone who's already got a rig as their main rig and they're looking to build a cheap second PC whether it be for workstation purposes or for gaming purposes and this is the group where I can recommend this PC to as well keep in mind though that the x58 motherboards whether they're used or new that support the ex 5650 are currently in my opinion pretty overpriced I mean I was lucky to pick one up on an auction that sort of wasn't on those compatibility lists and I got lucky but usually they can go anywhere from 150 to 200 US dollars which is quite a lot for an x58 motherboard considering a lot of them don't have side a3 or USB 3 onboard and so you know they don't have support for more than 24 gigs of ram I think you kind of already behind the eight ball when you compare it to something like the b85 pro gamer that I just recently reviewed and you coupled that with one of these and you got yourself one sweet spot in my opinion though one thing to keep in mind with is that this although was a lot of fun and although was a beast in productivity the power consumption man it was huge like it was literally huge this thing in Crysis 3 with the GTX 970 went over 700 watt also on the combined test and 3d fire strike it hit 700 watt as well while my jaw was dropping literally I was like watching this inlay well then that's huge considering I was on a gold rated power supply with so was pushing the end of max 630 what powers play over its limit so I was kind of really surprised this was only at four gigs as well now I also tried to overclock it a bit more and it just wouldn't go any higher so that was another limit of this motherboard the motherboard would go up to around about 206 megahertz and then it just wouldn't post after that at 205 megahertz I did manage to get it 4.1 gigs I think I managed to get around nine hundred and sixty seven points in Cinebench though it wasn't stable and it continually crashed at these speeds so I had to drop it down to four gigs for the benchmarking and to be honest the power consumption of four gigs yeah was huge so honestly if you want it to go all out with the x58 line you better you might want to go with like a rampage three and then maybe get a cpu with a higher multiplier at the x50 675 because I tried to use the turbo mode on this motherboard and it just wouldn't go any higher then like it did go higher but that was on two cores it went up to like four point six gigs and then even with those turbo settings enabled I'll do a stress test on all caused and I just go back down to four gigs anyway not to mention it was unstable in these settings with the turbo mode enabled as opposed to not having it enabled so all in all it was a great experience this is going to be a fantastic workstation especially since it beats out the 1231 v3 which is a kind of I think nor a fair comparison the one thing I failed to mention as well is when you're buying these use parts you can remember this is a four year old motherboard who knows how much life this motherboard has left in it I don't know as for the X 56 50s a lot of them will be being pulled out of servers whether it been babied their whole lives so you generally don't have to worry a lot with the xeon cpus it's just the motherboards i mean if you can pick up a new x58 motherboard that'd be pretty cool especially one with solder three and USB 3 that'd be an interesting combo as the solder to was limiting the SSD schools especially when I ran a SSD benchmark through it so anyway I hope that answers all your questions about these used guides I'm probably going to be selling a few of the parts I mean I did get some excess parts as well so all this came under three five hundred dollars this one came up to about $380 and I managed to get a GTX 285 and a i7 920 out of it as well sort of I can try and sell them and recoup some cost the other rig costs around about a hundred and ten dollars and I'm pretty much going to sell that because I mean I mean I will stay tuned the option that doesn't work properly so hopefully I can get a hundred dollars back and someone can have fun with it but it does still work it just doesn't work as well as something that would be fully functional in my opinion I mean technically you could get it up to four gigs of red gigabytes of RAM in and maybe it still works but anyway the other parts in there really good except the motherboard so that's about it guys I hope you enjoyed this video if you did please give it a thumbs up and if you have any questions or comments about this video or anything about these parts used in this build then please drop a comment in the comment section below and I'll get back to you as soon as I can I look forward to giving you guys another tech video very shortly peace out for now bye sorry and one more thing before we go I pulled up some old benchmarks of the FX 8320 or 4.4 gigs and that scored in Skyrim 109 frames per second and ARMA 3 I think was 46 frames per second and this looks to me like AMD is getting an unfair disadvantage in the compiling side of things especially when you compare the CPU to the FX 5650 which was scoring like 140 in Skyrim and over 60 and out of three like surely Andy can't be that far behind it wasn't like it was looking to me like you know AMD was purposely getting gimped from the compiling side of things so I would like to hear your comments and thoughts in the comment section below about that as well because I feel sorry for AMD in ways it's kind of you know sad to see them getting GIMP that much possibly I don't know I'm shorts I'm sure the architecture isn't just that far behind right so anyway let me know your thoughts about that and I'd love to hear your comments and thoughts on that too anyway I'm done talking so hit that subscribe button for some more juicy tech news and reviews bye you guys are interested in making a multi petition USB pendrive then let's continue on so we're on our desktop here and now there are three programs you will want to get straightaway two programs sorry that the first one being you me and now there are other programs you can use but I prefer you me it's just so easy so like a few clicks and you'll might be able to make that good will USB pendrive
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