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in this PC beside me we had a risin 5 2600 installed in a previous video that we did but now I've installed a risin 320 200 G now this is a fork or 4 threaded option that comes in at $80 currently on the market great option for getting into PC gaming on a budget but also on top of that it's got a graphics portion built on board so if you're in an extreme budget and you can't afford a GPU upgrade you can use this reliably at 720p low settings and still get decent FPS and all that for $80 makes it a good proposition but what if you want to get a solid gaming graphics card like the rx 570 or the GTX 1650 and you want to get more performance than the Rison 320 200 G's APU option then is that CPU those four cores brand-new at $80 still worth it or is getting something like this right here beside me a used om system with an i-5 3470 a gigabytes of ram motherboard cooler and a Windows 10 license better spent than getting the rise into 2,200 G well today we're going to be testing out this I 530 470 which is pretty much seven years old I believe and then putting that against AMD's budget fork or option with the rx 570 and the gtx 1650 to see how much better the new counterpart fares against the used counterpart if you're in the market for a z3 90 motherboard and vocabulary isn't a word in your budget then the phantom gaming 7 has you covered from asrock with a superior updated aesthetic in 2019 with a pre-installed IO shield and RGB support with addressable in both 12-volt options and a 2.5 Gigabit Nick onboard amazing onboard audio and the ability to overclock and 9900 K to kingdom come this is the board that's going to please value lovers that aren't on a budget links in description below before we get on with the benchmarks and ultimately the verdict however I want to talk about what I believe there's some misconceptions in the use market at the moment some people on the discord like to rag on use price performance but I think it's probably because they've got some new gear and they're so proud of their new parts and they just don't see the market appeal of use price per se and me being an enthusiast of use price-performance for years now I know how good value for money this stuff really is especially if you're getting some of those local deals and some of the arguments that come through a like okay the new stuff has all support for the latest features USB 3.2 and more PCIe lanes PCI 3.0 ddr4 memory and honestly a lot of that stuff when you really break it down is more geared toward things like 4k video editing for example or batch processing mass amounts of raw photographs or making music or doing a number of other things that don't involve gaming I'd argue if you're a gamer and you're on a budget use price performance is always the way to go because the only productivity that I know personally in gaming is getting the most FPS and if you're on a strict budget then you're definitely going to get more FPS for your dollar on use price performance than you ever will in the new market the second argument I see raised is used products are generally going to be more faulty er than new products and that depends I'd argue if you go pick up the parts and you witness them working in action I'd say there's a good chance that they're gonna still work especially when you investigate things like the caps and make sure they're not bulging which is a big red flag in the used market but if the caps are nice and they're looking good still and that's a general indication that that product still has a good amount of life left in it and also on that note in the last two weeks here in the studio I've had to faulty brand new hard drives a faulty brand new ddr4 memory stick and also a faulty brand-new power supply now of course I do get the warranty which is the advantage of new parts but on that note is still a hassle for me to organize warranty go get the product returned replaced and even then I've got some downtime between now and when I get that product that replaced one back here in the studio so new parts do carry their risks just like use parts the next argument in line is the security flaws and the risks they pose for certain people now as an individual who plays video games and someone who recommends a lot of hardware to people who play video games on a budget I'm gonna step out and say that I believe you have literally nothing to worry about in this sense and that's because these security flaws there's not one reported case of someone being affected by these security exploits second thing is as well is that the next round of exploits apparently Intel's own in-house team found them themselves and on that note what better incentive to sell new CPUs than to say that the previous generations of CPUs that aren't getting any dedicated patches for them have security flaws so basically go buy a new CPUs because our old ones could leave your business and all that personal information at risk seems a little bit too convenient but the last point in relation to this subject is that if someone is that talented like I mean they're on another level with the hacking skills I do not believe they're going to target someone like you or I who only has a few dollars in the bank they're going to be going for some much and believe it when I say this much bigger juicier targets out there in terms of what monetary items and assets they have and then the second last of the arguments to pull up here and I believe is just like the instruction sets probably a very valid one is the upgrade ability and after we roll the benchmarks we'll talk a little bit more about this in depth the last argument is some of the instruction sets on the older CPUs they just simply aren't there and so the newer CPUs support these new instruction sets like avx2 for example and those same instructions can then make their way into games and if they're not there then you can't either play the game or you'll get a bad experience in terms of FPS it'll be stuttery or you just won't get the FPS that you otherwise would on a new CPU now we saw this in apex legends with really old CPUs pre FX CPUs just simply didn't work and that's pretty much where I've stopped a featuring LGA 775 I've also haven't really used those old really old phenom for example on the channel here and the reason being is it's not just because they're really old it's because they support ddr2 and a lot of the times they come into problems with the motherboards just having not been taken care of after all that time and then they don't simply work properly but for me personally things like second third and fourth gen Intel's especially some of the OEMs are really good value for money just promise me one thing this arrow don't go buying an HP and then saying use price-performance is bad you can generally extract a lot of value out of Dell's Lenovo's and aces and with that you're getting the whole CPU motherboard RAM and a genuine Windows license and a lot of the time getting a used hard drive that still works absolutely fine for less than the price of a brand-new CPU it was all that aside let's get on with these benchmarks and then talk about the numbers so after going through all those numbers for you guys apex legends the first game we pulled up new title in 2019 but this title honestly didn't see any differences on either the gtx 1650 or the RX 570 across both Rison 320 200 G rising 5 2600 the e5 2620 v2 and also the i-5 34 70 now both the Intel CPUs are on Ivy Bridge and of course both the rising CPUs are on rise and second generation but may be able to dota 2 which is an older title this was running on DirectX 9 which is what it defaults to now and I have noticed in recent months that they had some problems on dx11 and boot issues so I think they've defaulted to dx9 with this title and it's interesting to see these numbers because the four cores pretty much battled it out in this title the lower clock to Xeon didn't do as well and then of course the risin 5 2600 came ahead when we overclocked the memory speeds now the memory speeds did play a big factor in this game because it is pretty much single threaded dependent and with that the high ram speeds will make a difference to since I only clocked it manually to 3.8 gigahertz with the 32 hundred megahertz memory and on the four core believe it's only around 200 megahertz extra boost so the ram speeds were making a bit of a difference in this game but on that note the FPS on all four of these CPUs with these budget graphics cards is perfectly playable if you're on a budget you got a 60 FPS monitor you're gonna get a smooth experience across all four these CPUs now move over to hitman 2 dx12 this pretty much saw no difference across the board it was nothing to write home about the gtx 1650 losing to the RX 570 in this particular title at 1080p medium settings and really smooth experience across all four CPUs but now turning things back to csgo here we had the Rison 3 falling behind the rosen 5 and then the ivy bridge a full core was beating out the 6 core and it was pulling some decent FPS so both the rising 3 and the risin 5 CPUs were pulling ahead of the Ivy Bridge CPUs in this benchmark but one thing if I do remember correctly is it's not so much to do with these scene threaded speeds in this title as I believe it has to do more so at the memory speeds is something I'm going to be following up on since we don't have the option on both of these Ivy Bridge CPUs to manually change the RAM speeds so I couldn't test if that was a factor in this particular game but I have known from experience with the X 5650 for example which is an older architecture but has triple-channel support and I was able to overclock memory that this CPU in particular has fared better than these two Ivy Bridge Zeon's and that's Westmere which is two generations behind the CPUs from Intel in this video but moving over to the next title resident evil 2 and we had here nothing to write home about very smooth experience on all four CPUs across both graphics cards nothing out of the ordinary here except the Intel CPUs were repeatedly doing just a little bit better than the rise in CPUs even when the memory was overclocked on the rising counterparts only a couple of percentage points which in the grand scheme of things is absolutely nothing and speaking of the grand scheme here's where dota 2 and csgo showed quite a big difference for the higher clock two CPUs the six core Xeon did fall behind by quite a bit in these two titles though the other three titles we tested were absolutely fine all the FPS figures were very close to one another however on the note of dota 2 and csgo is playing with over 80 FPS in the case of dota 2 and playing with over 120 FPS and csgo a bad thing I don't think so I think if you're on a budget these FPS figures are going to be absolutely fine for a good gaming experience in fact if you went out and bought all four of these CPUs and coupled it with either of these two graphics cards you're gonna have a really good gaming experience of course the Rison 5 2600 is going to do a lot better when you start coupling it with cards like the RT x 2070 and better or the Vega 56 and better on the AMD side so it just depends on your budget but in terms of getting something like an RX 570 used for $80 and then coupling with an $18 CPU like the xeon or an i-5 3470 that you've pulled out they used OEM it's going to give you great performance there's not a whole lot of reason in my opinion to go out and spend all that extra money on the new parts when you're not really going to be getting any extra FPS at all when it comes to these two graphics cards but on that note the new parts will have a much better upgrade path if you get a be 450 motherboard you can upgrade the CPU in the future sell your old CPU but here's where I do have a bit of experience and I've got friends here on the Gold Coast who flipped PCs all the time the amount of trade-ins we get versus people that come in and want to upgrade their system or people that we know about it stores retail stores that come in getting parts wanting to upgrade the systems is far less to the people who just want to trade in their old system get a completely new system and not have to think twice about that old system but with that said that's why I do believe in doing these budget builds on the channel because you make that PC once and then in a fuse time just get rid of it and get the next latest and greatest thing out because in my opinion by the time you're ready to upgrade your system in two or three years time there's going to be a lot of other components that are just are the better or much cheaper for instance look at the storage it's come down a lot to the point where it's almost better to just go out and buy a whole SSD rather than an SSD in a hard drive and new graphics architectures like Navi and also Intel's Arctic sound are on the uptick and they're going to bring some value for money in the new scene which then of course trickles down to the use scene and makes the use price performance even better so I hope you guys enjoyed this video if you did then be sure to hit that like button let us know in the comment section below what you think of use price performance but I know one thing for sure and that is if you're an avid techie a citizen then you already know that use price performance is just unreal hope you enjoyed this one and I'll catch you in another tech video very soon peace out for now bye