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Thermal Paste Investigation - GELID GC Extreme Vs Arctic MX4

2018-05-07
what if I told you there was a person who made a YouTube video and all they wanted to do was help people out and they copped more dislikes than they did likes and in the end they ironically enough ended up being absolutely right with their video and also I have to say thank you red eye review for your video on Arctic silver 5 vs. gel and GC extreme this video helped me purchase the gel and GC extreme and give the results that I'm gonna be presenting here today but also besides that I think it identifies some sort of a problem that I guess may exist still in the tech community we will talk about that later let's get on with the results first so I bought a tube of this stuff 10 grams things about 20 bucks off eBay so it's not too expensive the good thing about this thermal pays just like Arctic mx4 is this non capacitive non conductive so it won't cause any problems if you spill it as opposed to Arctic silver 5 which I've used in the past it actually is slightly capacitive so if you do spill some over the edges your computer just may not simply boot at all and I've had fix this experience in the past but if you do use conductive thermal paste then do be very careful with that because that could indeed smoke up some parts so what we've got on the test bench here is three different graphics cards where I've done a little bit of before-and-after testing and the results are pretty conclusive this thermal paste from gelid I was pronouncing a gallon before that I since changed my ways is actually working pretty well so let's find out how well it indeed works welcome back to tech yes City and there is actually a story behind this because what happened was initially I was looking for answers because in my head there's this big backlog of all the things I've done in the past it all gets cataloged in the back of the brain there's all cause and effect and reasons why and I've noticed in the past whenever I've had some CPUs on different thermal paste they've overclocked higher than others sure it's not been a huge difference but I've noticed whenever I've used Arctic mx4 I've never got great overclocks I've never got one to say hey boys take a look at this I'm doing really well and of course you put that down - hey silicon lottery man maybe just that piece of silicon is not performing as well as others and sure that is a valid argument but when you're using one different thermal paste and getting really good results and then you're using another over time you sort of start to say hey am I missing something here and so I started doing a lot more research and it wasn't till recent with the x50 675 video that I did that I realized that that 4.5 gigahertz overclock that came very easy and it was the first time I haven't used MX 4 in a long time I actually used cooler masters master gel Pro and so that got me thinking I started doing a bit more research and then I came across this video from read I review where they compared the M Arctic silver 5 versus the gel at GC extreme and what they found was there was actually quite a big difference and first up we have the asrock phantom gaming rx 580 now when I put this initially to the test I was going to do the review and I was gonna cut the b-roll and I realized before I took the cooler apart I was like oh make sure I test the out-of-the-box thermals with the stock thermal paste because that was important for this comparison as opposed to the previous video I did with the GTX 10m UTI from gal axe I actually forgot to test that before I change the thermal paste over but ironically enough when I tested and looked at Greg scores I got really low temperatures compared to him so the GC extreme was working really well on the 1070 i sniper that i had come through and in fact it was working so well to the point where I got a extremely high overclock in real mediocre ambient temperatures so that was already one sort of proving factor that this thermal pace was working well but moving over to the asrock phantom gaming RX 580 this out of the box was scoring I think 78 degrees it got 100% fan speeds on its max overclock and then we change the thermal paste around to GC extreme and that got 75 degrees not only that it enabled us to get a very slight extra few megahertz out of the GPU so this was actually working pretty well but if it's one thing it already goes to show that asrock are actually using some pretty good thermal paste on their GPUs because in the next test you'll find out why and so the next GPU we have up here is the gtx 1070 TI hall of fame now this is a massive cooler three fans triple slot it's the Big Daddy of gtx 1070 is and it's coming to the table here first off with arctic mx4 now I've used Arctic MX for three years and the reason I've used it is again because of those qualities of not causing any problems if you spill it it's also quite cheap you can get like a 20 gram tube for relative like I think I paid 14 bucks and so you can just use it and use it use it use it use it and you're never gonna run out of this stuff and so it was going to go to thermal paste before this test where it got 63 degrees 100% fan speeds and quite a sizable overclock of over 2.1 gigahertz and then we changed over we change over to the magic GC extreme and it went down to 55 degrees and not only that I was then able to overclock it just a little bit higher so we went from 2114 megahertz max speed to 2164 so that was a sizable gain but we also got the temperature drop of 8 degrees and so this was on a 1070 I - I believe if you had a 980 TI or a 1080 TI the differences would be even more but now back to the original video from redeye review when I watched this video everything made sense there was no shenanigans there was no trying to hide anything he displayed his motherboard temperatures and from that you could see that his ambient temperatures were very accurate and also on top of that he did what's called a prime 95 small FFT test this essentially stresses the CPU ridiculously hard it's a very artificial non real-world test that will if especially in this case you've got a fork or a threaded CPU we'll put out a lot of power on a small surface area and this is very important especially when it comes down to selecting which thermal paste will do better than others so when I saw these tests he essentially was showing that Arctic silver 5 was inferior to gel a GC extreme and it all made sense because when I looked through his history of videos this was just a guy who just simply wanted to help people and yet when I looked at the video before guy just copped more dislikes than he did likes yet there was no treated trash Arctic silver 5 he didn't say anything bad about their products he just simply did his two tests and made a video to help people and that's how people responded so I asked him alike I thought he'd made a pretty good video it helped me buy this thermal paste and when I tested it here myself I found some big differences so what's coming out of this is basically GC extreme is now my new go-to thermal paste because it's again pretty easy to use and it's pretty much similar in MX for it it spreads really easy but the temperature differences are actually quite sizable so I hope this video helps some people out but if it's one thing if there's a problem that still exists in the tech community it's that just lose the fanboy ISM I mean sure if he was trashing Arctic products of whatnot he would deserve a dislike but he wasn't doing any of that he just did some tests and yet people hated on him because I guess they'd bought some arctic silver 5 erotic MX 4 and thought oh you're showing that my product that I bought and paid money for is losing to something else how dare you dislike yet I'm sure going forward that would have demotivated him to keep making more videos but it all comes down to I got my new favorite thermal paste here and if something like this helps my 8700 K now get to 5.1 giga that's that's an extra hundred megahertz and i guess that's an awesome thing so if it can help people then this stuff's really good and i'm gonna be using it from here on him because i can't exactly use liquid pro or conductor naught i just i really don't like working with that stuff not only the fact that it's really hard to work with but it's also conductive so slow like this really easy to work with it's provided with a little spread scoop as well so you can spread it out everywhere I love the spread method for reasons being that it's awesome and that's another topic I guess you get some people like go to put the P method on no don't do the P method just don't do it to yourself anyway I'm out of here I'm losing my mind I'll catch you guys another tech video very soon if you enjoyed this one - be sure to hit that like button and let me know in the comments section below what thermal paste are you currently using what is your go-to thermal paste and why love reading your thoughts and opinions as always I'll catch you in another tech video very soon peace out for now bye but it all comes down to it I've got my new state is it gelid yeah gelid okay jelly jelly jelly extreme gel and GC extreme uh there was a guy called red I reviewed now he made a video on G lead gelid Gilad Gilad Gilad Gilad Gilad Gilad Gilad what if I told you there was a person who made a video on YouTube now I know you're thinking yeah and of course there's people who make videos on YouTube this is 2018 I think everyone's tried making a video on YouTube on when I'm doing these tests to keep it apples to apples so I was really shocked to see that there was such a big difference when it came to higher power consuming devices because an Rx 581 consume as much power as a 10-7 TTI at least from memory it shouldn't wait now stupid I think it does I think it does doesn't it 1070 she's about the same power overclocked so
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