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Thoughts on the RTX 2080 & 2080 Ti - A Forced Launch...?

2018-09-20
Nvidia have dropped their latest generation RTX mm seriously but post launched the hype train is pulled into the station but there are some serious concerns with the new generation of these cards which we will take a look at today so the biggest problem with the RT X series launch is that the entire thing just feels forced and whether that's because Nvidia want to lock people into higher end cards before the launch of AMD's unreleased Navi GPUs or even segment themselves with different technology in the market like ray tracing and Els s before Intel's eventual release of their dedicated graphics cards in 2020 or whether it has to do with the massive glut of 10 series cards that supposedly needs to be cleared out we will just never know but I do know one thing and that is the 2000 series does feel like there are other intentions behind this launch the Nvidia that I'm used to using experiencing and reviewing over the last decade have never missed a beat and their products have been near or simply perfection itself the 2000 series however though doesn't feel like perfection at all to me and it feels like a different bump in the road I seriously think Nvidia would have been better off holding off at least a month or two to optimize their drivers and get the new technology like rate racing and DL SS implemented into some actual playable games before release not to mention that this release was so rushed that I literally had two days to test overclocked cross-reference double-check and shoot and film an entire review which somehow I managed to pull off though there are some other weird discrepancies that are occurring first off the ray tracing functionality it's so important to Nvidia that it's the entire name of the graphics card itself RTX however at launch and as it stands now for me personally and for everyone who pre-ordered there are no games or even benchmarks that utilize the real-time ray tracing so right now it's a matter of hardware and waiting for the game dev optimization and game devs waiting for the hardware and a real chicken and egg conundrum of which should come first for this reason shadow of the Tomb Raider is waiting for a ray tracing patch and battlefield has straight up postponed but the fact that in video is so confident in real-time ray-tracing technology isn't necessarily a bad thing traditional rendering always needed a replacement it was inevitable but reviewers such as myself and all the other awesome youtubers who reviewed these cards really can't sit here and benchmark hype no matter how hard we try well actually I'm wrong Tom's Hardware somehow managed to though jokes aside I think releasing a new architecture of graphics cards without at least even a playable demo from Nvidia really makes the cards seem like a new GTX lineup instead of our TX for the time being not to mention the raw performance gains themselves just aren't offering the value like any previous series release of Nvidia cards have I remember the 1080 the 10 79 77 86 70 cards when they were dropped and the excitement was there the value was there and of course the performance gains were there though ultimately I think the losses here were actually the pre-order errs who might be disappointed at the lack of performance for their very hefty investment but will the long-term over-the-air improvements like deep learning anti-aliasing driver updates and ray tracing or the holy grail of graphics be enough to bring the value back rewarding early adopters in due time will definitely have to retest and compare the performance and optimization in a month or two so definitely stay tuned for that but many people are saying Nvidia only did this because they have the breathing room to release a slight performance bump and all the wiggle room to push their new technology first with performance increases being that of a lesser priority this does seem kind of true and the Y is actually quite simple and that's because AMD haven't posed any real competition for years now Vega was a bigger flop than that of the failed backflip and until it yet to spread their wings when it comes to GPU development though taking a look at NVIDIA zone top-end GT X 1080 Ti which trades blows with the RT X 2080 and if you compare to the founders vers founders it even beats it by a slight margin as well as having those next-gen features like ray tracing in tentacles but in Australia for example you can currently buy GT X 1080 T eyes brand-new on eBay right now for as little as $1,000 with the 20% coupon code which comes in at four hundred Aussie dollars less than the cheapest 20/80 available and this is the crux what you can buy these cards for on the shelves right now not promised MSRP s that retailers don't adhere to and of course if you're willing to do a little bit of local hustle or even eBay hustle then you can get the cards off a fall and minor for dirt cheap get them deals folks you won't regret it and of course be sure to leave your deals in the comments below I love reading that good stuff though the real shiner of the 2000 series looks like it is indeed the 28th et I though the problem is that it's priced so far out of realism to what we are used to I think it's too much too soon to be honest I mean we have seen over the years a gradual increase in prices of the flagship cards take for instance the Titan in 2015 then compared to the Titan X Pascal in 2016 there was a $200 price hike but this time around it seems like it's bang straight up there with a 70% price hike over your previous TI cards and you get the same amount of VRAM and about 25% more performance that's a lot of money and quite a hefty premium and looking at our previous Titan X Pascal release which was August 2016 that was $1200 - and offered an 84% price increase over the previous reigning 980ti so the pricing seems way too close to our Titan versus previous TI modeling to be considered a proper TI card in my opinion and let's take a minute to remember that the Titan X Pascal was over 60 percent faster than a 980 TI and also performed over 35% better than a GTX 1080 let's also not forget that the 1080i is still a beast of a card with the 20 80 TI only pulling about 25 to 30 percent ahead so it's not getting any worse but it will be getting cheaper for the 1080 TI with the release of these newer cards which doesn't mean the 2018 20 ATI a bad card they will still perform better than 1080 TI named Li the 20 80 TI at 4k it's just when I do the maths and after having buried my head in benchmarks for the previous two days I didn't really come to a proper conclusion in my previous RT X 2080 video but now that I've had time to step back and think about it it's just a real shame in video launched this card so soon because there anything to show really even having just one title properly utilizing this tech to its full extent would have been so much better in my opinion even just one title utilizing DL s s and another utilizing ray tracing would have been fine too they will still see with the Nvidia driver updates and also video game updates how much in video were in a rush to release these 2000 series cards and or if they want to truly sell out the overstock of ten series cards they came from over production for what was seen as continued throughout all of 2018 demand from - perhaps we should be all thanking you know silicon they did us gamers all a real solid or did they those should also be mentioned that GPU mining is becoming more and more inefficient in returns of return on investment and with Nvidia tailoring cores to workloads such as tensor for deep learning and RT calls for ray tracing as well as improving on efficiency of their traditional cuda cores it makes it just that much harder to justify a GPU for mining in 2018 hopefully deterring future GPU miners from the newest generation of NVIDIA GPUs though at the end of the day if you wanted the best value for money the 10 series currently Trump's the 20 series in my opinion but if you don't care at all and want the best performance like 4k 60fps the 20 series cards and more specifically the 20 atti will handle that as well as supporting all those new technologies that are still just demos though if it's one thing don't worry you won't be left out if you didn't pre-order and never forget patience really is a virtue though in conclusion traditional rendering is undeniably outdated but I can't help it honestly feel just disappointed with the 20 series launch and I really honestly want to know what you guys think about the 20 series launch to let me know in the comments section below and if you enjoyed this video then be sure to hit that like button love rating your thoughts in opinions as always and I mean it just doesn't seem like the in-video I know that's for sure not the one that I'm used to anyway now but without said I'll catch you guys in another tech video very soon peace out for now bye like bu why oh just just by it
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