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USED Vs. NEW RX 570.... How Risky is it Buying Used?

2019-05-05
what is cracka lackin ladies and gentlemen today on the desk we have here some specials for you guys we've got a used rx 570 gigabyte OC Edition now we pick this up 480 Aussie dollars which in the US you lookin around 60 USD if you change our Aussie dollar e dues into that currency but right beside it gaming ex-model from msi brand-new in the box i picked this up for 170 Aussie dollars on a sale so this is automatically coming over double the price of this used X mining graphics card now even if we had the same Edition it would be over double the cost because this was a pretty good deal that we got but that being said I do see a lot of these cards popping up for sale at around the same prices so today what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna test this used card out then I'm gonna test it verse this not only the performance numbers but the temperatures first they're going to come back and see if we change the thermal paste on this and also do a few things how much better it becomes now first thing to talk about of course warranty this is brand new in the box you're gonna get a warranty you're gonna get an invoice this here you don't get a warranty like well at least the person I bought it off just literally wanted to offload them and the reason they got rid of them cheap off it was because they didn't want to have to deal with giving me a receipt or anything like that they like look just take this thing and I don't want to hear about it again and I'm like whoa but in that case doesn't work so the first thing about buying this used card here make sure it works before you buy it get some sort of proof if you're buying online make sure you have some protection if you're buying online if you are not gonna get a screenshot of working but that being said since I picked it up locally I was able to confirm that this wasn't deep working before I bought it this one here of course brand new you've got no problems you're protected by law in Australia I believe in the US as well and most other countries if you buy something new you've got that peace of mind that you don't have to worry about with that said let's put these things on the test bench and see who's gonna come out on top so the first thing before we even get into the gaming benchmarks is the graphics card driver won't install whether we get the old Windows driver the console Windows 10 or we try to download the latest AMD driver we'll see here that it does bring up this message with an exclamation mark in device manager this just means that it's most likely got a different V by Asin in this case this card was used for cryptocurrency mining so whoever updated the BIOS put on a mining optimized BIOS and so what this now does is renders this card essentially useless for gaming in its current state because it was sort of manually configured and it doesn't relate to the check sums on the actual card itself and there's a few reasons why it doesn't work with the AMD driver set though how we get around this is we go to the tech powerup database and we get the gigabyte rx 570 gaming BIOS and we can make sure that the card looks the same and in this case I couldn't find the gigabyte one so I use the Auris which is in this case it is exactly the same card and it was one of those weird things but what we're gonna do now is get a program called ati flash and use that to now flash this back to a gaming graphics card and then hopefully our our driver will install just like a normal card that we bought brand new off the shelves would otherwise if we don't it's essentially a useless card for gaming and we can see right now that the exclamation mark is now gone and this card is now ready to rock and roll Rumble run from Run Robel Robles so this card right here out of the box with only a bias flash applied scored a maximum temperature of 74 degrees and that happened in Tom Clancy's division to benchmark so what we're gonna do now is take it off the bench give us some tech yes loving and then do a little before and after so upon pulling this graphics card apart we can see right here that the thermal paste has dried up and this is both on the die and the heatsink itself so taking this off and then putting on new thermal paste is the most important thing but we can also see just next to the memory chip here there's some real weird kind of dirt so we're just going to use some used underwear since I've run out of alcohol wipes and just clean up this graphics card then get the thermal paste off and just apply some new thermal paste so after five minutes this card is now looking so good rumor has it though apparently after some tackiest loving these cards can perform even better than you that's right so you see that condition on an item it says new you've even got a step above that nowadays check yes loved with that aside let's see the beautiful after effect so we just finished up testing these two rx 570s one being used the other being new now in the case of the gigabyte the performance was pretty much neck-and-neck with the gaming ex but I will say one thing I did do a little bit of research and after we put an aura spice on this thing apparently it does give it a bit of a boost over the stock gigabyte rx 570 so if there's one difference between those two models is that this one now with the Auris BIOS is clocked a little bit higher so it will help with the performance figures but that being said the gaming X did do better both in temperatures and FPS figures when we were comparing them after the tech yes loving now the tiger is loving in this case that's where we changed the thermal paste and cleaned it all up it did make a very subtle difference it was only marginal if we look at Tom Clancy's division - we got one FPS higher and we also got one degree lower I don't really - did show a three degree drop and giving out the same results Tomb Raider gave us a very slight very slight dip in temperatures but the same fps but this time around you may be wondering why didn't that before enough to make that much of a difference and the answer was simply because this one wasn't that dirty I think the person who sold them on really didn't use them for that long at all and we can tell by the actual dust that came off when I was actually cleaning it up was very minimal and then when we changed the thermal paste over even though it was dry it wasn't that dry I've seen thermal paste just pretty much crumble as soon as you take it apart this stuff still had a little bit of moisture to it so it was still doing a pretty good job if anything I guess gigabyte are using decent thermal paste on their graphics cards - but also when we saw the neck-and-neck results that was two different cards that we're comparing one having a beefier better cooler than the other so it wasn't really that apples-to-apples but the value argument of going used is so good because we can see the price performance here is unstoppable it's unbeatable but we can have those potential problems like the fact that the v bios was a mining bias and we had to change it otherwise would be left with a card that wouldn't be working properly at all but now use versus new this ties into the next video I'll be making with the gtx 1650 perfectly because there's these arguments at the moment of you know used RX 570s being such good value for money and that argument is a hundred percent true this price performance is just through the roof right now but again we are comparing a new graphics card versus a used one they are two different markets but in this case of whether you should run the risk of buying a used card you always going to run the risk of I guess more complications happening with the used graphics card but when we look at the value proposition I could have bought two of these for the price I paid of this well actually probably almost three I think in Australia now looking at the AUD pricing so is one of three cards going to work definitely yes statistically it's more than two out of three cards are going to work I'd say closer to more like nine out of ten cards are going to work at least in my experience over new cards like ten out of ten new cards will most likely work nine out of ten news cards will most likely not give you problems that's sort of like the rough statistics to it but in terms of the value then that would become eighty-eight ozzie dollars and that's sort of the price premium you should kind of weigh in to use parts when you're looking to start buying them yes there is that risk there but over time especially if you're buying a lot of use parts that risk is going to average out and that's going to mean you are getting much better value for money anyway hopefully that tech yes math made a bit of sense if it did then be sure to hit that like button and let us know in the comments section below what you think of used versus new graphics cards today here it certainly was punching very in favor of the used especially the rx 570 this being one of those cards right now that is very popular in the use scene and in the new scene simply because of its price performance but it is one especially in this terms of this video I'm gonna be referencing this video in the 1650 review because there is something to talk about in relation to this versus the market and the sort of especially a lot of the comments I'm reading you have to stay tuned for the 16:50 review without aside let us know what you think of use versus new love reading your thoughts and opinions as always everyone check us out on social I'll put insta Facebook and Twitter in the description below with that said I'll catch each and every one of you in another tech video very soon peace now for now bye but yes I am back from I am as well and in this month's going to be a bit of a roller coaster in terms of the amount of tech yes loving that can be administered on this channel so it's gonna be an interesting month
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