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Vega 64 Pricing... $499 vs $599... The Story So Far....

2017-08-24
Vega 64 has been released and 56 is being released and the MSRP is all over the place but what is the cause for these high prices seems everywhere I go it's just he say and she say and I'm just here to tell you guys what the story is currently my thoughts on it and how it's going to affect me going forward as I want to review this card but before I do I want to clear the air and if someone says Brian but XYZ in the comments in future Vega videos and I just want to link them to this video to save me some time what a messy launch though new GPU launches usually are messy however this launch is also being clouded in scrutiny from apparently and I'll emphasize that again apparently as I have no proof of anything in this video so take any of this information of course with a spicy grain a good old salt there are two very strong rumors floating around and the first will have it that AMD will under supplying the standalone cards and over supplying the games bundled cards in this case otherwise known as the Radeon black or Radeon aqua packs so these packs are $100 more than standalone MSRP prices and within those bundles you get a copy of prey and Wolfenstein 2 and also if you decide to buy a rise in 7 1700 X or 1800 X CPU and one of 3 X 370 motherboards the azusa rogue extreme gigabyte gaming k7 or MSI gaming titanium then you got an additional $100 discount off this combo though all three motherboards cost easily over $200 and not being able to buy a budget rise in 770 100 in this combo does start to see less appeal especially for budget minded consumers the last offer in these packs is the option to buy samsung's new CF 791 ultrawide monitor and get a two hundred dollar discount which is quite enticing except for the fact that the monitor costs over nine hundred dollars the back itself apparently got oversupplied and the standalone cards were under supplied and if that's true it doesn't make much sense at all since the amount of people building an entire system from the ground up would be a lot less than people who just want to buy the card I mean look at how slow CPU clock speeds have come in the last five years as opposed to GPUs and you can definitely see the appeal of GPUs over CPUs and hence the demand for buying a grabs guard over building an entirely new system so apparently AMD wanted to sell those bundles to get an extra $100 in the hopes that most people wouldn't cash in on any of the deals however I have heard rumors that retailers are being told to strip the cards out of the bundles and sell them as standalone prices so again I reiterate lots of he say and she say out there at the moment though the second rumors that the true MSRP prices are really $100 from what am d have initially stated and those initial $4.99 prices on Vegas 64 for example were actually rebated to the retailer and/or each Eller after they sold the card so an example of this is that the retailer sold the card for 99 bucks and got $100 back from AMD so that would make up their shortcomings and they would have effectively sold the card for $5.99 and apparently this was only on the first wave of very limited supplied cards especially for the standalone Edition this rebate I believe has now effectively expired and in gamers nexuses article when they pressed the hard-hitting questioned AMD AMD didn't have a direct response they just said they couldn't control pricing and danced around the main question by the way Steve from games Nexus does some awesome investigative journalism I'll put the links to his articles in the description below so anyway back to Vega it was released an AMD have spoken on the matter and they said that apparently it's a simple case of supply and demand and that they're doing their best to make sure suppliers get stocked up which in turn will hopefully get prices closer to the suggested retail prices AMD initially promised and in their defense GPU launches in the last few years especially hiring cards have typically been sold out with prices that can go well above that of MSRP for months so like Steve from Hadron box said just waited out a good month or two and also wait for the atom board partner cards to hit the shelves and then see how pricing is from there if pricing comes down or if it's a hundred dollars above retail consistently in a month or two then we'll know the truth though to further complicate matters news on the internet will have it that the hardware on those cards is just simply too expensive to sell the initial MSRP s promised by AMD so retailers are forced to raise the prices $100 higher or else nobody will be making any money on these cards at all though I will give you guys my two cents I mean J already gave his two cents in his boycotting AMD completely I wouldn't go that far personally just yet but the man does have his reasons and he has stated why in his own video where he says he has a trusted source that confirms this whole fiasco however I will give AMD the benefit of the doubt for now I mean look at the Nvidia 3.5 gigabyte fiasco years ago apparently there was a miscommunication internally and honestly after going to events and meeting some of the folks in tech companies especially comput X with small tech companies I'm not gonna name any names but some of them only know marketing they don't have a clue about the actual tech itself so after you see it in person then you do realize that some of these defenses that may seem impossible they do start to seem plausible but before throwing the hammer down on AMD let's just give it a bit of time and the main thing I wanted to throw into this topic is quite simply us the consumer at the end of the day we dictate the prices with our wallets we always will if AMD wants to charge too much for their graphics cards well then I say let them sit on the shelves personally I'm a deals man and none of this faces me I mean Intel Nvidia AMD they're all publicly listed companies and their main goals are to either profit grow or grow market share they don't care about you as an individual they certainly don't cook your breakfast they don't change your underwear or tuck you in and kiss you to bed at night so if you have a sentimental attachment to Ira these three companies then I must raise the question what is it with that sentimental attachment I gave up mine years and years ago and I recommend you guys do the same if you haven't already base a product on its merit and nothing else if the product performs good and it's good for the money or it does something that can benefit someone in a particular circumstance that another product can't then awesome go buy it if it doesn't then don't buy it though I will say this in regards to the pricing I will be basing my AMD Vega conclusions in my review now on two different sets of pricing as there's just too many people talking about what appears to be very strong rumors and just too much talk of it to simply ignore and also what about the miners well I don't see that going anywhere in the short term which does in itself add to the problem anyway guys I hope you enjoyed this video if you did then don't forget to hit that like button and it's time for me to start benchmarking Vega and making some Vega content I'll catch you guys in another tech video very soon peace out for now bye
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