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What CAUSES STUTTERING...?! Ft. The BitFenix "Say it" Enso

2017-11-14
when a subscriber named Vasily all the way over in Italy send me in his motherboard CPU and RAM he thought it was cursed he was playing Battlefield one with a 1080 TI and he was simply getting stuttering and he hated the experience he said Brian I'm gonna send you this cursed motherboard 4790k and memory kit and I want you to test it and see if you can recreate the stuttering I was getting and I said to him the 4790k should not be a problem you should get a really good experience with a 1080 TI so today I'm gonna patch this whole thing up get it working and see if we can recreate the conditions or if we do from the get-go get a really good experience then we'll do some post diagnosis and see what could have been wrong on Vasily setup welcome back to tech es city and going through this configuration of parts that we have here today we have the gigabyte Black Edition z97 X in gaming one Wi-Fi BK motherboard actually quite an expensive motherboard and it does support Quad SLI so after we're done testing the 1080 TI on this thing I do have other plans for instance 2 GTX 690 s going head-to-head with a 1080 Ti so stay tuned for that we've also got the 4790k now Vasili has already deleted this cpu and upon pulling it apart it was actually very dirty with this being tech es city we have to give this CPU a wash and clean it up with detergent oh my god did he just wash that CPU dip detergent and water somebody called Lewis Rossmann right now now continuing on with the bill we're using the f SP 500 watt power supply it has 39 amps on the 12 volt line so it should do a fine job of powering the 10 atti and also the 4790k when it's overclocked we've got 2 8 gigabyte sticks of RAM to make a 16 gigabyte configuration in dual channel and this is from g.skill now for the hard drive we're using a 2 terabyte fire kut'r as i believe this is all we need the silly was actually using an SSD which is even better so we're using a worst part but I'm still confident all these parts will work fine and then for the case we've got the BitFenix sensor which comes in a 99 USD chips with two fans has tempered glass on one side and also has that power supply covered shroud and the front lights up RGB so you've got a lot of options with this thing but of course after we're done building with it we'll talk about that a little bit more and then for the grams card this is the monster 10 atti from Oris this thing has a power limit of 150 percent it is just an absolute beast it will get better performance than a reference 1080 Ti so if anything's gonna bottleneck this CPU it's going to be this gravis card so without further ado let's get on with this build and see if we can get some stuttering so here we have with the bill complete and I must say it looks very schmick especially for a build that only took me literally an hour to build it was really quick and the RGB strip I even forgot to put that in initially we added that in quickly and it does give off a really nice subtle glow the deep cool gam acts cooler looks really nice in this build too however that aside it was now time to get on into the stuttering mess that Vasily reported over in Italy and try and diagnose what was going on and it was at this first step when I booted the PC installed windows I noticed one problem that was occurring we were getting a blue screen of death and the first thing that came to mind was simply bad overclocks tuned into the bias because I actually didn't reset the BIOS in between getting this motherboard and then installing it into this build so I went into the bias checked things out and we had a 4.9 gigahertz overclock locked in now this is a very aggressive overclock for a Haswell CPU even the Haswell refresh and this can cause problems especially in the form of thermal throttling which will indeed give you that stuttering mess however we did have another problem one which I've never seen before we tuned it down to 4.7 gigahertz and in this case we started the stress test up it was indeed thermal throttling quite quick however even with the CPU thermal throttling you should still be able to do things like copy files and so as I was copying my games over I got an error message that I've never seen before this was a really odd message so at this stage not only did we have an unstable overclock on the CPU we also had possibly two other problems the first things that came to my mind was the memory now we've got XMP profiles at 24 hundred megahertz now sometimes you can in rare instances have a memory set of profiles that just passed it in the factory but on a hundred percent stable however in this case I believe they were fine it's just over time memory just like a CPU can degrade and so you're on that fine point and now your XMP profile is no longer work however there was also one more problem we're using creatives onboard audio now in the past creative have had driver problems with their devices so it could either be that all the memory and then on top of all of that to further complicate things we now have the CPU thermal throttling quite quickly so perhaps we don't have a good contact between the die and the IHS which could mean in very rare circumstances again we could have an lid on the CPU that's not perfectly flat or not close to perfectly flat so we may have to do what I call the mx4 sandwich and since mx4 is non capacitive non conductive you can drop a lot of this stuff on and then it'll make a good connection between not only the cooler and the heat spreader but also the heat spreader to the die so we're gonna get that done now see what we can do so now we've applied so much mx4 thermal paste we now have a faster throttling of the CPU which means that our initial application of the liquid metal was absolutely fine however this means that our CPU and our cooler combination quite simply can't handle the 4.7 gigahertz overclock so what we have to do now is drop it down to a happy medium so first off we're just gonna try 4 gigahertz because perhaps we have one of the most leakiest CPUs on the planet I mean it does boot at 4.9 gigahertz on this configuration however it won't even run stable at 4.7 gear goats without even transferring heat to the cooler I mean the cooler is remaining really cool while this thermal throttling happening so first off we tried 4 gigahertz just to make sure that everything was fine with this CPU and we're getting in the mid-60s so our configuration was fine for 40 Hertz and we also had a bit more Headroom so upping the overclocks to 4.4 gigahertz showed us that we now had a happy medium in terms of overclocks and temperatures we were hitting about 80 degrees I was happy with these temperatures and before we even start playing any games I want to make sure that we're passing stress tests nothing's crashing and our temperatures are ok and as we said before with the memory we dropped this down to 2133 megahertz with pretty tight timings and it was at this stage we had no more error messages we were now ready to get in to the games and check if we were getting any stuttering so the first game we had up here with the 1080 TI replicating Vasilis exact same setup that he was telling me was having problems with we were getting smooth frame rates absolutely fine 1080p single player ultra settings was getting near 200 FPS and then of course what about multiplayer this is where Vasily was having his problems stuttering to the point where he's just losing his matches he was getting frustrated and when I was doing this it was a smooth experience yet again so sometimes it just helps to get a stable overclock rather than having no overclock at all or having too aggressive of an overclock and this is what we're seeing when we're testing the other games went on to Far Cry primal again very good scores over 120 average fps Tom Clancy's the division great frame rates no blue screens of death no error messages completely smooth experience Metro last light going near 300 FPS everything was just buttery smooth I even decided to throw in Crysis 3 at which point this was smooth as well clocking over a hundred fps in this game and power consumption from the wall was only 400 watts so this configuration even with a 500 watt power supply everything was running mint so now we're gonna analyze what happened on Vasilis end and I was gonna say that Vasily perhaps was just being a little bit silly but it wasn't the case he actually had a combination of problems and this led to a very stuttery experience in my opinion first thing the memory it now no longer works on those XMP profiles you will get problems and in this case just clock it down a little bit and you'll have a good experience still it's much faster than the 1,300 and 33 megahertz default which again if you had this CPU on default with those memory speeds you'd probably get an undesirable experience as well however the CPU overclock that as well was causing problems it was thermal throttling especially at 4.9 gigahertz it was just too much to handle even for a water cooler I believe this would have problems so he dropped it down to 4.4 gigahertz found a happy medium and in the end everything was running buttery smooth of course I always do recommend overclocking but I will say if it's at the expense of stability then don't do it I'd much rather have your default settings locked in and you get a good experience than trying to overclock and have it unstable but keep in mind if you do overclock and you do get those settings stable then you're gonna have a really good experience that beats that of the default settings so now it's time to talk about this case beside me the Enzo and building and it was surprisingly very easy I thought because it was like a medium sized case and it wasn't that large I thought I'd have some difficulties but no very spacious to work inside the power splash shroud cover at the front really does a good job of making this in easy case to work in with not just cosmetics but also covering up any bad cable management so if you like me and you're very quick on your cable management and you use ketchup and mustard power supplies then something like this especially for $89 is going to do a really good job of helping an amateur build their nice-looking PC and I'll surprised this thing took me one hour to put together and I think in the end it was one of the nicest looking PC builds I've done keep in mind the deep cool gamax air cooler actually does look really good it's performance is mediocre I will say that 4.4 gigahertz was the happy medium that are at about 25 degree ambient temperature their cable extensions they look very good as always there the game of chief budget cable extensions in Australia on eBay they come pre combed really nice with this case as well you get two fans prints tour one at the back being RGB at the back of the case there's an RGB controller which in this case I did hook the deep cooled gamax up to and the LED strip and I had no problems at all it's all in sync when I press the RGB button at the front it changes the colors there's also a Zeus or a sync as well if you're using an AMD board from a zoo so you're using an azuz or a sync board then you can hook that into the controller and control your RGB lighting from the motherboard itself via software though other things with this case you can mount a 240 ml radiator at the top or at the front of the case and with that you can take off the front panel and install another fan if you wish to at the back of the case there's two 3.5 inch mount drive bays that are really quick to install drives into there's also SSD support and we that you get a shroud cover up the top that you can change from breathable to a hard coating though I did use this hard coating just inside the case itself to cover up some poor cable management since I did have a non modular budget power supply I just wanted to show that this case is very easy to work in not just with cable management but also each of the build itself and I know you guys wouldn't forgive me if I didn't look at temperatures with the Enzo so with the tempered glass side panel on we've got a maximum temperature on the CPU of 95 degrees and with the GPU is hitting 77 degrees now with the tempered glass side panel off we then got 89 degrees maximum and the 1080 TI aura scored 73 degrees now keep in mind this is with 400 watts roughly getting dumped into this whole case so that top ventilation area was doing a very good job of clearing out the heat and of course tempered glass is difficult to work with it's basically like putting a whole insulation side panel on your case so the two included fans were doing a pretty decent job however I would like to see the front of the case opened up a little bit more to allow more airflow but with that said you probably won't want to put anything more powerful in this case especially in terms of a hotter CPU so ultimately with the Enzo 89 US dollars comes with two fans tempered glass power supply shroud cover there's two removable dust filters at the front and one on the bottom for your power supply very easy to work with if I had to critique one thing however it would be the rubber grommets inside the case for the two big cables the rectangular ones I'd like to see them actually silicon door glued onto the case because when I was pulling cables through they just came off instantly and there are a pain in the ass to get back on that would be my only thing to critique with this case other than that very nice case even for the money I can recommend this thing to you guys if you're doing a new coffee lake or rise and build or even if you're doing a build with use parts something like this is really good with ketchup and mustard power supplies with just cable extensions anyway guys hope you enjoyed today's build and drop a comment in the comment section below if you've got stuttering problems that you can't fix perhaps I or someone else in the comment section can help you out and also let me know what you think of the answer of course I'm just gonna leave this review and just say that it ain't so I'll catch you in another tech video very soon peace out for now bye
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